>pedophilia for me but not for thee

>>41742477
Just because i liked dating my pedo dad does not mean other people should pursue the same thing without absolute certainty you can make it work. I won a 1 in a million shot, most others wont, that is the nature of the beast.

If you want to fuck your dad, go right ahead. There's no better thrill than becoming the wife of the man who created you, but if you wanna fuck a nonse? First ask what brought you here, dont be me

>>41742502
you are not as special as you think you are

>>41742502
op got raped and is trying to make excuses for it, fuck is this

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>>41742502
>There's no better thrill than becoming the wife of the man who created you, but if you wanna fuck a nonse?

your dad WAS a nonce, wtf is wrong with you

>>41742551
most pedos (nonce is a dumb br**ish word) are just regular dudes

>>41742565
- pedo
- regular dude

one or the other fuckass, can't be both

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>>41742531
I am infact, quite happy with the way things went. If you had read through the entirety of the prior thread, that would be drop dead obvious, my life would be utter dogshit without the years i spent with him. I knew more comments like this would come along, so i leave you with something from the first thread. Set your overinflated morals aside for 5 fucking minutes and just move on

>>41742575
it's both tho just look at how many regular dudes fucked with epstein

op are you ok?

>>41742581

i read the original thread, you got manipulated by your dad after you came out and became his fuckdoll at 14

fucking disgusting shit

>>41742586
regular looking? definitely, but they weren't regular dudes

at least i hope a regular guy isn't trying to get himself inside kids

>>41742610
If you knew how many dudes would love to have a daughter like OP it would mindbreak you.

>>41742551
The pepe here is making me cackle, its so perfect. Yes my dad was a nonse, i could have worded that better but im still frustrated at the first thread falling apart.

I was still happy to be his wife, but i wouldnt reccomend anyone else try to live my life. It only worked for me because we were both autistic as fuck and complimented eachother perfectly

>>41742619
believe me, i'd rather not know lol

>>41742619
>pedo thinks everyone else is a pedo too

>>41742528
And you arent as intellegent as you think you are :D

>>41742629
>pedo thinks nobody else is a pedo

>>41742629
is anyone surprised at this point

>>41742632
and you had sex with your dad

>>41742637
How the fuck am I a pedo for pointing out most men aren't pedos?

>>41742596
Oh its you! The fucking idiot who bitched at everyone and complained at any opinion on the matter that didnt fit your specific views, im actually surprised i didnt recognize you. You insufferable ass, how did you worm your way back in here?

>>41742653
how the fuck am I pedo for pointing out regular dudes are pedos?

>>41742594
Yea, i loved my relationship, i actively want it back every single fucking day. It was the happiest years of my life, and ive been a miserable empty husk since my dad died. The only thing im not ok in, is being wracked with grief over losing him

>>41742659
Because normal people don't think about how all dudes want to fuck kids. The only people telling themselves that are people trying to ease their conscience

>>41742683
So you know how pedos think? Sounds like you are a pedo!

>>41742690
Your bait is worse than OP's lmao

>>41742693
your bait is better than OPs

>>41742648
Damn right, and it was some of the most mindblowing sex i ever had!
Seethe, cope, mald. I was made for my father and i relished in that like a complete hedonist. The way you cant seem to let it go, and obsessively focus on it makes me wonder if you might be secretly more than a bit jealous

>>41742711
you need people to be jealous because otherwise you are just kinda a disgusting freak

Mfw OP thinks her father loved her
Mfw if he truly loved her he wouldn't have hurt her like that

>>41742720
Happy to be a "disgusting freak" ill wear that badge with pride.

Again
Seethe, cope, mald

>>41742744
>Happy to be a "disgusting freak" ill wear that badge with pride.
okay then lmao

op why are you judging pedos when your husband was one? are you still feeling ashamed of what you did?

>>41742726
He did love me, just not in most most traditionalist sense. I was his entire world, dude legit couldnt even sleep at night unless he was hugging me like a plushie. He was an autist who expressed his love through his unrampant perversion, i have no real complaints, it made him happy that i wanted him and it made me happy to see the light come back to his eyes after my mother treated him so poorly. We had our own bond, and it was deeper than you can possibly imagine, we were both very present in eachothers lives and THE most important person in the world to eachother.

Just because a form of love does not fit within your narrowly defined boxes of the word, does not make the love any less valid.

>>41742784
Its not so much that im judging them, its more just that the chances of a life like mine succeeding are less than 1%. I got very lucky, and i doubt most others would have that level of luck

What im doing, is trying to tell people to be careful

This followup thread seems to be quieter than my first one. Honestly? Thank fuck, i dont need a bunch of arguments stinking the place up again

>>41743567
>Honestly? Thank fuck, i dont need a bunch of arguments stinking the place up again
why did you need a second thread anyways?

>>41743709
Sheer boredom and actually missing being able to answer questions about my life. It was very theraputic to me, talking positively and telling the interesting parts of my time with him. When the first thread got archived, i was sad

>>41743759
ok
So what are your intentions in life? What do you want to do now that you control your own destiny?

>>41743848
Ive been drifting aimlessly since the day he died. Losing him was always my greatest fear, and i still dont know what to do now that said fear was actually realized. He wasnt supposed to die.

I dont want to be in control of my own destiny, my destiny was to spend my life with him, but random bad luck fate took that away from me. I drift along aimlessly every day with no goal, pretending im doing fine when im really just a husk who lost the most important person in her life

>>41743922
You kinda have to figure something out.
I'm not you, and I've never grieved like you, but it seems kind of like a waste if he "saved" you and now that he isn't here to keep his hand on your back and push you forward you'll collapse or die or wither away.
You could try to live how he would want you to live. Keep a ghost of him in your head and just do what the ghost says.
One could also try to synthesize a new you. Take whatever you got from being with him and whatever you think is uniquely you and carry that forward.
Or you could just rebuild yourself entirely.
Either way I think you have to do something. I think if I saved a woman from a potential hellish life or suicide or outright death I'd want her to be able to stand on her own at some point, just for the sake of wondering what kind of thing she is inside her heart. What kind of gem is there when the stone is removed and the dust brushed off.
But I'm not your father, so I can't speak from any place of knowledge about you.
I'm sure this is all very raw for you. Sorry. I don't know how to put myself in a place to speak to that despair in a way that you deserve to be spoken to.

>>41742581
>im happy im happy im happy im happy im happy im happy im happy im happy im happy im happy im happy im happy im happy im happy im happy im happy
Please get therapy.

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>>41742456
Do you care to greentext one of the early times you two fucked?

>>41744056
OP spent the entire last thread assuring everyone they're super duper ultra totally definitely secure in feeling the way they do about what happened to them and that the mere concept of attending therapy is offensive and invalidating

>>41744005
Honestly the idea of envisioning a ghost of him telling me what to do isint a bad idea, i already would listen to anything he told me, it might genuinely help me out of this deoression funk, as silly as that is

>>41744056
Please eat thumbtacks and stop trying to read into my posts for things or emotions that are not there. I am immensely sick of people trying to borderline headcanon me as "traumatized" just because they cant sleep at night with the knowledge that someone actually could enjoy a life like this

>>41744252
this :D

>>41744277
And again you try to read my posts for meanings that arent there in order to help yourself sleep at night.

Im autistic, im blunt as fuck. If i say i enjoyed it, i enjoyed it and you need to accept that.

>>41744316
>Please eat thumbtacks
did your father ever tell you to do that?

>>41744252
I suppose i could, alot of the early stages of the relationship were both awkward and sweet. Just two autists in way over their heads and not having a clue how to handle this, but making it work anyway. Ill try to drop one later

>>41744349
Good lord man, no. He would never actually hurt me.I liked being obedient, but he wasnt that kind of man. Our Dom/Sub dynamic was entirely kink based to get both our rocks off, he wasnt going to actually hurt me, that would have fucking destroyed him.

>>41742792
>>41742820
You are 28 years old, no degree, no skills, never been in a real relationship, never dated, never moved out, working retail.
You were groomed into being some creep’s onahole and psychologically, professionally, and emotionally stunted so that you couldn’t leave.
You were so made-to-measure that you tried to kill yourself when he died, because he has built you solely as a vessel for himself with no identity or purpose.
/r9k/ is full of men whose mothers did this to them. The most common form of this is mothers doing it to their sons, usually only with emotional incest. The one saving grace of that is that the lack of sexual incest apparently makes it easier for them to realize what’s happened, which is the first step to breaking free.
It seems like the inclusion of sexual grooming and actual child sexual abuse digs the thorns in a lot deeper. It’s sad because the realization is going to be indescribably painful, but otherwise you’ll never live at all.

>>41744339
>Im autistic, im blunt as fuck. If i say i enjoyed it, i enjoyed it and you need to accept that.
the point of telling you to go to therapy isn't so some therapist can help you find out that secretly you hated all of it and your dad was evil and you should reject your past entirely.
the point of going to therapy is so that you don't have an albatross hanging on your neck and can function in the real world like a big girl and make your own decisions and live your own life and don't need to waste a week straight explaining yourself and your life and arguing about it on the internet with strangers because you don't need our validation or our hatred or our understanding because you already have your shit figured out. so you don't lie awake at night reliving the whole thing because its all you can ever think about. so that the world isn't dull and sad because you don't have daddy's dick waiting for you at the end of the day. so that you can have things to look forward to that you want to look forward to. so that you can live a whole independent life, whatever the fuck that looks like for you.
hate your dad, like your dad, whatever. i do not care either way and honestly nobody really actually ever will care either. the thing that does matter is that you feel the need or even the desire to do this. you could spin your wheels here every day for a month straight and maybe even successfully convince this entire board that you specifically had a great life (i do not mean to imply you didn't, i do not give a flying fuck) and it would not matter because you would still have all this pent up or unresolved or just heavy shit in your head and your life would look the exact same today as it would look like after this whole board understood the deepest parts of your soul because the thing you actually need to do is build a life.
You're 28. You've got like 62 years of being alive ahead of you unless something dumb happens. don't waste it. you can't do this every day.

Fellas I gotta say this is some of the most fucked up shit

What did you want to be when you were little, before anything started, before all of this? Do you remember?

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>>41744492
the world is fucked up, weird and beautiful, nothing is as simple as you think, there is no right or wrong and nothing matters at all. nothing surprises me anymore. this is quite tame imo even if its 100% real.

>>41744538
No that's retarded psued babble and you sound really stupid

>>41744568
she is right tho

>>41744568
and you sound like you still believe in idealist nonsense and some kind of objective morality

>>41742456
what the fuck does this have to do with /lgbt/

>>41744602
tranny getting fucked by her father is just about the most /tttt/ thing i can think of

>>41744602
op is a tgirl
also incest is included in lgbtqiaa2+

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>>41744538
It’s only tame in the sense that like, he didn’t kill and taxidermy them once they got too old or something.
It is basically the most evil thing a man can do to his son on every level. You can’t do this ouroboros shit with your own kids. It makes the next generation crippled and stagnant. It’s a human centipede.

>>41744602
OP is trans and her dad helped her transition?

>>41744602
Im a troon who dated her dad, thats what it has to do with /lgbt/

>>41744653
doesnt get more trutrans than being boyremoved by your actual daddy before puberty ends

>>41744659
giwtwm :/

>>41744252
As requested, still terrible at greentexting but here.
>be me, 14, relationship has been going on for a couple months, while i have not medically transitioned i have come out to him to make things less awkward later
>Dad has not actually fucked me yet. we've mostly just done small things, blowjobs and the like
>He finally works up the nerve to actually rail me about a month later
>The Autist straight up did research on how to do anal play without causing pain, and what type of lube is the best, spent an entire night reading up on it
>Says he did so because he dosent want to hurt me and ruin everything before it even starts
>Godilovethisdork.jpeg
>lays me down on the bed, lubes up and goes for the old two finger salute to ease me into it
>First time doing anything down there, the sensations are completely new to me. Getting fingered like this is already starting to make me go crazy to the point of drooling
>Neither of us can take it anymore, he starts to ease himself into me like im some kind of jewel that he is scared to break
>The feeling is both overwhelming and a bit scary at first but gradually turns damn good
>Losing my mind, turning into a shuddering, moaning idiot. Not just from getting my prostate pounded into dust, but from the knowledge that the man doing it is the very same one who created me. End up cumming twice, him once, we just collapse into eachother
>Open my eyes, dad is looking down at me, concerned
>Says he felt like he just crossed the final barrier of failing me as a parent, that im going to waste my youth on him and that he stole my first time, he's a complete mess
>Tell him i dont care what he THINKS he failed at doing, i enjoyed it and wouldnt have wanted to give my first time to anyone else, nor trusted it with anyone else
>The sentinental dork starts crying and tells me how happy he is that i share his feelings, we fall asleep snuggling
>TFW i made my 31 year old autistic dad cry by telling him the dick was actually THAT good

>>41744618
thats kind of what i meant, that its tame because shit thats a lot more brutal happens every day, literally right now someone might be getting their organs removed for the black market or being kidnapped at the age of 5 to be sold as a sex slave. op's situation being consensual and mutual takes it down a notch or three on how fucked up it seems in context of everything that ever happened, no matter how culturally taboo it might be in whatever culture's current moral code you subscribe to. there's been cultures troughout history where nothing in op's story would even be considered wrong. if you ever learn to let go of the moral framework you were taught, you start assessing the morality of things on very different yardsticks.

>You can’t do this ouroboros shit with your own kids
you literally can tho, even if lots of people might have lots to say about it.

>>41742456
The most horrifying this is... what if OP is right? What if this was genuinely a great relationship? It's horrifying to think that society's most deeply held taboos could be wrong. That thought is more terrifying than anything that actually happened to OP.

>>41744659
EXACTLY, boyremoved at 14, medically transitioned at 17. Genuinely? Thanks dad, you actually saved me from a life of repping or honmoding

>>41744763
>>41744457
>>41744472

>>41744621
Helped me transition and made me his wife of 14 years. Getting to replace my demon of a mother and actually make him feel happy and fulfilled was one of the greatest pleasures of my life. I genuinely brought the light back to his eyes, he was miserably depressed before this all started

>>41744613
And it is BEAUTIFUL
More Troons should take the Freudpill, at least for me it was lifechanging in the best way.

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In case the last time you saw one was in high school, this is what a 14-year-old looks like, by the way.
And it actually started by at least 12.

>>41744763
Why didn't/couldn't you transition at 14 after being boyremoved?

>>41744757
>>>/int/216931921

>>41744731
It’s truly sick that you think this is some kind of conditioned response and not transparently obvious to anyone with a functioning brain.
By their fruits you shall know them. No son-raper is pumping out presidents. Just crippled lost souls.

>>41744757
thats kind of what im trying to say... morality is all relative and subjective, and the morals we are taught as children are completely made up. thats why nobody even agrees on whats right or wrong from person to person, let alone culture to culture, let alone through the millenia. im not saying be a caricature of a nihilist and start killing people or fucking your kids because hurr durr nothing matters, but i am saying you should question and examine critically what you believe and assume to be true or unquestionable. im not necessarily even saying that incest is okay, but im saying that the fact that society says its not okay does not mean that thats what you should think
t: >>41744538 >>41744731

>>41744757
The relationship was great, it was literally the happiest 14 years of my entire life.

While i will not defend pedophilia with the SOLE exception of the relationship i had with my dad, i do think societal views on incest are rather puritanical and should be questioned on if they even matter. Im trans, i cannot produce offspring, me and my dad were not hurting a fucking soul by loving eachother like this, and we couldnt bring another genetic freak into the world. If incest cannot produce offspring, or takes great steps to not do so, i see no issue with it. The only thing stopping some of my fellow troons from fucking their dads or brothers is entirely a fear of an outdated societal taboo. Pedophilia should NEVER be normalized, but incest that causes no harm or is done very carefully, SHOULD be normalized

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>>41744757
>>41744859
Every time I start to think that humans aren’t irredeemably evil retarded animals, I have to witness a gaggle of them chumming up to the most wrongheaded shit imaginable because it uses the right tone of voice.
The meteor cannot come soon enough.

>>41744830
I tried, but neither of us were very knowledgeable about trans stuff outside of the concept of some people being born the wrong gender. Even after my dad did his research, we had trouble finding a good doctor because we initially lived in a bit of a backwards area

are you intentionally ignoring the therapy posts OP
if you aren't willing to discuss how you want to move forward in the future or how to not be stuck reliving your life from 14-28 until you die at 70-something the only things really left to discuss are either the morality of being a daughterfucker or just getting you to hand out fapfuel to horny anons, so if this thread isn't going the way you want it to go you kinda gotta create the conditions for it to go differently

>>41744955
Oh im sure ill move on eventually, give me a fucking break. It hasnt even been a full year since i lost him, and fwiw i am getting better. The first couple months following his death, i wouldnt even get out of bed or take care of myself. By this point of the year im working a cozy little job at a bookstore(and thats only done to keep my mind occupied, dad left money after his death but i try not to spend it) i go out and meet people and actually do things.

I dont owe you a specific grieving process, i dont owe you therapy either. I am recovering at my own pace and on my own time in my own way. If its not to a standard you approve of? Too bad

>>41744891
>billions must die because some people have loving relationships with family members
you realize you are the evil nazi in this situation right?

>>41745053
No, billions but die because humanity as a race can’t tell the difference between nice and good.

>>41742456
>>41742502
> Don't come after me, fbi

>>41745090
I love Into the Woods

>>41744492
Fucked up to thee
Beautiful to me

>>41745104
I grew up watching a VHS of a stage production of it until the tape broke. I talked my family into seeing the Meryl Streep movie version when it came out and it was somehow terrible.

>>41745000
>I dont owe you a specific grieving process, i dont owe you therapy either.
The point isn't that you owe ME anything. The point is that you made a thread about not knowing what the fuck to do with your life and you not having your emotions figured out and you wanting to explore the memory of what happened to you and some people are recommending that ONE OF the ways to deal with that is therapy. Again, the therapy recommendation is not about pushing you onto someone to tell you what to feel about your past. The therapy recommendation is about you needing to figure out what the next 60 years of your life look like without them all being re-runs of today.
>I am recovering at my own pace and on my own time in my own way
>If its not to a standard you approve of? Too bad
YOU made the thread. if you're an independent big girl and don't need our input then what the fuck is the thread for? you could have just written a book about what it was like to be daddy's cocksock, dumped it somewhere, and been done with the whole thing.
Do you want input or do you not? Do you want people to use you as a test case or not? Why do you want us to read this thread and ask you questions or just passively observe? Do you even want to be observed?

>>41745140
Thank it's pure narcissism .
> Help me 4chan
> Noooot like thaat

>>41745140
They consciously just want a bunch of gooners to fawn and tell them it’s so hot and beg for greentexts.
They subconsciously want some people to break down the ice cage. (If they didn’t this post would be on r/EroticIncestAMA or whatever hugbox).

>>41744515
From literally the year i gained conciousness(4) i knew something was wrong with me, but i didnt know what aside from just that innate since of wrongness. I have a very distinct, early memory of sitting on the couch with both of my parents(in a rare instance of them doing anything together) watching....i think it was cinderella, or sleeping beauty, one of the old disney films. I asked my mother "can i be a princess too?" Completely unprompted and she just called me an idiot, told me that "im a boy and boys cant be princessess" which just made my dad scowl at her and say "Stop being mean to the kid, fucks sakes"

Mom left the room, i asked dad the same question about being a princess, and he just looked down, shrugged and said "I have no idea kid, i dont know how the world works" and then just hugged me while we finished the movie. If you want to know what my standing with each parent was, look to this post

>>41745171
>They consciously just want a bunch of gooners to fawn and tell them it’s so hot and beg for greentexts.
I don't even think they want that because they keep telling other pedophiles to fuck off. I genuinely do not understand the point of this thread or what OP's goal is.

>>41745155
I mean i did inherit dad's smug narcissism. I cant even deny that

>>41745202
I don’t mean sex/gender stuff.
I mean what did you want to do. As a person. With your life. What were you passionate about. What inspired you.

Im so sorry you were molested by your father. You’re reframing things to protect your psyche, but what happened to you was not okay.

>>41745320
I'm so sorry you were dropped on your head as an infant.

>>41745415
are you the boy rapist who got nuked by the janny yesterday?

>>41744793
>"more troons should take the freudpill" >>41742820
>"im trying to tell people to be careful"
kekekekek retarded tranny is retarded

I can fix her

>>41745440
No, I'm interested in older men, not young boys.

>>41745320
You are fucking dense if thats what you read out of all of this. What is it with people on here and trying to dictate my feelings on the matter rather than simply accepting that my feelings differ from what they would find comfortable.

Everyone on 4chan thinks they are a phycologist, but nobody knows me like myself

>>41745491
You arent related to me, im not letting you hit

>>41745475
My brainworms are the wriggliest, i would say my truest stance is closer to encouraging fatherfucking than anything. I unashamedly got off on the knowledge of what i was doing. The idea of the very man who created me and took care of me my entire childhood where my mother abandoned me, taking me as his wife turned my brain into mush in the best way. Alot of troons here probably want my life, but will never admit it. The best girl to be is daddy's girl

>>41745560
Exactly a lot of people know your mind better than you know your own, you’re far too close to the situation. I actually think this reflexive antagonistic anger proves my point about you being groomed and clearly reframing what happened to you because you don’t wish to accept what happened.

>>41745581
I was just kidding lol

>>41745638
finally admitting youre a pedophile defender huh?

>>41745708
The anger comes from people indirectly crapping on my husband's memory every other post, i find it insufferably annoying. Im very protective of him in the same way he was protective of me. So to have people constantly insult him and reframe the situation to make him seem worse just brings my blood to a boil. Im sorry to dissapoint you, but you completely misread the room and what the source of my anger is

>>41742456
Did you ever have an unofficial wedding ceremony, with a wedding dress and everything?
Would love to hear about it in detail if you did.

>>41745735
You can still fuck your dad and not enable pedophilia. You can still be Daddy's girl at 18 onwards, i know "pot kettle black" considering i was happily enabling one, but my point stands

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>>41745789
He wasn’t protective of you, he was possessive of you.
You’re like shitpull people that think resource guarding is cute

>>41745821
Fair enough, i was posessive of him in the same fucking way if you really wish to word it like that. We complimented eachother perfectly

>>41745789
Honestly, I believe that you genuinely loved each other. But you did admit he had sex with you at 14.

>>41745810
We couldnt actually marry for obvious reasons, we just considered ourselves married and wore rings but it didnt really advance from that. Admittedly a bit salty about that because the idea of wearing a wedding dress for him just makes my knees weak

>>41745892
Thank you....
Genuinely thank you for actually understanding amidst a sea of people who dont. Fuck that feels like i just won the lottery. The thing is, i will be the first to tell you that my dad was a pedophile. We literally both ackowledged it multiple times during the first few years of the relationship. We had a good hour long discussion on the matter when i was about 15, and both came to the conclusion that neither of us really cared, and my dad had a net zero interest in other children(in fact the idea made him sick) he only had eyes for me, but we did both ackowledge that he was still a pedo. If the man himself said it to my face and we both still realized we didnt give a fuck, that should put an end to the arguments here yet it just...dosent

>>41742581
anon I'm glad you got some good things out of it but I don't think you know how your life would've gone. a better father would've made sure you got the chance to transition and date people your age and figure out all the things you could do with your life, rather than make you (albeit happily) dependent on someone who was going to die and leave you alone. you'll probably say 'I'm not saying he was perfect' but I think he should've thought about that.
it's your life now anyways
i think you should consider that he had ridiculous power over your developing mind and he may have influenced you in ways that aren't totally helpful to you, and this can be true at the same time as you loving him and wanting him back. the feeling of being someone's treasure sounds addictive & im not saying you can't have a little vice. but the 'I was kinky' as a child? yea probably because he wanted you to be.
you don't HAVE to disentangle your identity from him but i think that's a part of continuing to live. maybe it could be betteR? what makes you think it couldn't?
i cant rly understand your experience so im more curious about what kind of person it makes you now
>>41744757
lol
>>41744763
i think with the freudian stuff, like... on some level and without any moral taboos of course you'd want to replace your mother, that's an incredible amount of validation and you get to live in an infantile cocoon world where you are 'saved' from the struggles you'd otherwise have, even if it also alienates you from most people. but you're not 'supposed' to because it makes for you an incestuous world. you don't have to be or learn to be anything but a fit for your dad, you don't have to coordinate between all the people you could be out in the world. those are arguably some of the most spiritually difficult and rewarding choices so you're missing out on a kind of maturity. and that's my point i guess, which im sure is not new to you.

>>41745897
Understandable, I'm sorry.
>>41745892
lots of people have sex at 14 lol do you subscribe to the idea that like people cant consent to anything before the age of 25 or something

>>41746065
welcome back to the thread pedo

>>41746000
To answer your first point, he did somewhat shape me into who i was then, but i wanted it. The sheer level of validation i got, and the way it would make my heart soar when i saw him happy, i had been in love with him for years. When my feelings were actually answered, of course i was going to fall into being a complete, obedient submissive. I finally had the person i had been dreaming about for so long and was powerless to resist to the point of being drunk with it. Did he take advantage of that state? Probably, but his intentions werent bad with it. He genuinely thought it was endearingly cute, and he never did anything that hurt me. He was very responsible for my needs and wants on the matter. He knew how badly i wanted it, the worst he did was just give a slight nudge so i could fall into it completely and enjoy myself

Point 2
Replacing that evil bitch of a woman that he married was worth it, no matter what it was worth it. He was near suicidally depressed before this happened, and the longer this went on the more and more i saw the smile return to his face and the light to his eyes. I got to be the wife he always wanted, rather than the one he got stuck with

>>41746144
ok i guess you're probably still in a state where you're thinking about him a lot. im not trying to argue whether he was wrong or not im just wondering what else you care about in life

>>41746144
and again part of my point is that
>he knew how badly I wanted it
there's no magical father-child bond that allows them to know things like this and you never know what different needs, wants, fantasies and dreams you might've had if your dad wasn't a pedo, that's what im curious about, how u make sense of that. maybe it doesnt matter to you bc what happened happened and its your whole life

>>41746211
You are right, it dosent matter to me. I had alot of fun and im not the type to dwell on semantics of stuff like this

>>41745958
Was he interested in children before he conceived you? From the way you're describing him it doesn't necessarily sound like he's a pedophile per se, just that he loved and was sexually attracted to you specifically.

>>41746181
I care about alot of things in life outside of my husband
*Walks in nature
*Books books and more books
*Taking the time to relax with my favorite tv shows and some coffee
*Trips out to go watch a movie
Im a sucker for the simple stuff, probably my most normie coded shit. I live for a cozy day inside with a nice warm drink. Im not a debaucherous pervert 24-7. I was a housewife and i have alot of housewife coded interests

>>41746449
Ive said this a few times in both threads, but the idea of other children in a sexual manner made him feel sick. He just had eyes for me, we talked about it alot

>>41746458
What would you do if the police showed up and asked questions?

Stockholm syndrome, the thread

>>41742456
trannies really out here writing child grooming fanfiction

>>41746478
What would have made him like that? Was he abused as q child too?

>>41746519
Why are you saying that OP got abused?

>>41746539
She did.
Didn't you read the thread?

>>41746431
not rly semantics but ok fair
>>41746458
you are pretty normie coded desu from the way you talk, and im somewhat less so. i guess if you claim you're happy and fulfilled with who you became there's nothing more i can get out of you. thanks for sharing?
oh, what books do you like (out of curiosity)?

>>41746550
Did you?

>>41746550
the person you're replying to is one of the local pedophiles and thinks people as young as 11 can and should freely take it up the ass from adults
go check the last thread if you're curious

>>41746458
Do you have any hobbies that involve creating and making something? Passions? Basically >>41745248

>>41746642
That the last thread was as bad as it was and still had a ton of posts removed is harrowing

>>41746491
Inconsiderate asshole, the comment

>>41746483
We would have covered for eachother because we both had a deep fear of losing one another, often times he said i felt like the only person in the world who understood him, while he felt like the only person in the world who understood me. We had eachothers backs

>>41746593
Oh im a sucker for horror books, and especially so classic literature. Dad was a big sci-fi fan, had a near complete collection of Doctor Who novels too

>>41746491
Yep!

Honestly this is the problem with everyone. Everyone tries to lie to themselves and say whatever they can to justify their own life and their own life decisions being moral and normal and their code of morality is based in that alone. OP, what happened to you was deeply wrong. I don’t care if you feel otherwise. I don’t care how you try to justify things to yourself and lie to yourself to feel moral and to especially make your father seem moral in your eyes. Don’t act offended when people tell you this bluntly. They aren’t being cruel, some things shouldn’t be sugarcoated, we’re not mean and we shouldn’t be expected to lie to you to spare your feelings when something obviously horrible happened to you and you’re in denial of it. Everyone thinks that you, and especially your father, are deeply immoral, and that’s not offensive or mean or us being cruel to you, that’s just reality and the question is whether or not you’ll accept it.

>>41746764
OP isn't interested in having an actual discussion, they just want to be quizzed on what daddy was like and what it was like riding his cock. Don't waste your time

>>41746764
You know what could happen?
The police can still show up and interrogate op because she may have knowledge of her dad's activities. And he could have been in touch with other criminals who are alive and are doing the same and they are criminals

>>41746764
In the same way you are allowed to contruct your own view of things, i am too. If i wish to view my time as happy, and i indeed do, thats my choice and you arent going to sway my mind. Its the same way for you and others, you all have a stone firm way of thinking and nothing i can say will change it. Its like two brick walls trying to fight eachother, nobody wins

>>41746879
You should probably report this to the police regardless

>>41746789
I am more than capable of having a discussion, but i dont wish to when the ONLY thing ever being parroted by the people who want to talk is "OP was completely in the wrong and my mind wont change" or "OPs dad is evil and i refuse to even glance over the good parts of him she talks about"

If all debates are going to be one sided, why debate at all?

>>41746909
>but i dont wish to when the ONLY thing ever being parroted by the people who want to talk is "OP was completely in the wrong and my mind wont change" or "OPs dad is evil and i refuse to even glance over the good parts of him she talks about"

>>41744005
>I'm sure this is all very raw for you. Sorry. I don't know how to put myself in a place to speak to that despair in a way that you deserve to be spoken to.
>>41744472
>(i do not mean to imply you didn't,
>>41744757
>What if this was genuinely a great relationship?
>>41746000
>I'm glad you got some good things out of it
>>41746181
>im not trying to argue whether he was wrong or not
>>41746593
>i guess if you claim you're happy and fulfilled with who you became there's nothing more i can get out of you.
>>41745140
>is not about pushing you onto someone to tell you what to feel about your past
>>41745248
>I mean what did you want to do. As a person. With your life. What were you passionate about. What inspired you.
>>41745892
>Honestly, I believe that you genuinely loved each other.

at least half of the people questioning you are making some effort to empathize with and understand you. maybe not everybody is being as gentle as they could be. i'm sure that hurts. but not everyone questioning you thinks this is black and white.

>>41747082
I understand, its just....admittedly hard to see the few people who try to understand amidst the sea of people who refuse to do so

>>41747152
Go to the police

>>41747152
Don't feed the trolls? Most all the effortposts are coming from the empathetic/semi-understanding types but so far the people getting the most attention from you are the one-sentence shitposters.

>>41747250
This
I've been one of the compassionate ones. And you only reply one liners
But with people who judge you, whole paragraphs

>>41747152
nta (I'm >>41746593 ) but you pretty selectively answered what you wanted to answer from me without fully engaging with the substance of what was being raised (which is fine but somewhat telling), AND you told another anon that their very encouraging post felt like 'winning the lottery'
I think you kind of think it's you and your dad against the world. but that's not rly surprising at all if he died not long ago i just hope you don't get locked into one perspective

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>>41747268
>I think you kind of think it's you and your dad against the world

>>41747296
well im just saying they seem to want to have their worldview reinforced lol. thats it from me i think

>>41747307
It's fkng larp

>>41747307
oh fair
IMO looks a bit like after years of being bonnie and clyde OP is still stuck there, like the nip soldier

OP is more logical than all the people arguing with her and that says a lot about society

>>41747413
You fuck a hundred hons and nobody bats an eye.
But you fuck one daughterwife? and everybody loses their minds.
- Da Joker Baby (The Dark Knight)

>>41745248
>>41746652
No answer to this is speaking volumes

>>41742456
Do you do drugs and/or drink? Did he? Starting when? Ever together?

>>41742456
When did you transition? If it wasn't at 14 he just saw you as another boy to fuck.

>>41742456
Oh yeah

What was your first time like?

How did this actually happen? Did he just decide you were his and decide to molest you?

What kind of lingerie did you wear for him? Did you ever wear bridal lingerie for him?

Is he dead now? What's your relationship like with him now?

>>41747745
Wait, SHIT FUCK i am actually sorry here. I got caught up in other rants that i didnt notice these. I an genuinely sorry

I actually always wanted to write, but i fear my prose would come off as too rambly. I used to paint as well, they werent very good but dad had alot of them hanging up. The painting didnt stop because he died though, i just grew bored with it. Ive never been a very creatively passionate person, because ill follow a medium for like a year or two and then get bored and drop it. Honestly kinda sucks because i think making little comics about this stuff could be rather funny, but i dont have an artistic bone in my body

>>41747952
Bro just read the thread all of these are covered

>>41747986
There's a lot of posts and a lot of them are from people dumber than I am

>>41747982
Did you ever paint you and your husband? Either way, would love to see some paintings.

>>41747820
He did not like drugs as a concept, but he loved drinking with me. We were both drinking together from when i was about 16. The funniest part of that is that i was usually the one to baby him if he got too drunk. We are both huggy drunks

I was so so so right that I should have not read this thread.

>>41747952
If you can somehow find the first Daughter-Wife thread you will get you answers, but ill indulge your fap fuel request
1-I made a greentext about my first time on this very thread, scroll up and you'll find it. It was requested of me to make

2-It was answered in the old thread, but i started it. I had developed feelings for him by the time i was 9, tried to ignore them for 5 years but then broke down and confessed to him. He ended up admitting that the feeling was mutual, he kissed me, my head swam and my brain turned to jello and this whole thing kicked off. We both thought our attractions were one sided for years

3-I always wore girl clothes for him because it made him happy. He tended to favor all black lengiere on me, and had a huge weakness for anything involving satin gloves. I never thought of bridal lengiere but good god i wish i had

4-He died of a heart attack early this year,he was only 45(i was an unplanned birth when he was 17) we were involved with eachother right up until the day he died, deep love. The heart attack was sudden and genetic, apparently heart problems run in his side of the family and that worries me for my own future

>>41748026
Breaking news
Another anon cant handle fatherfucking. More at 11

>>41748068
reminder
>>41747250
>Don't feed the trolls?

>>41748060
I can't find a link to that thread. Please, go into more detail about the black lingerie and gloves.

Did he ever dress you up and make you his fuckdoll? Did he ever brush your hair and do your makeup?

Did he spank you? Did you two do any BDSM?

>>41748002
How often and how much did he drink?

>>41748001
I never painted people, i made surrealist works. Lots of swirling spirals of color with a focus on eyes within the artwork. That was because it represented my subconcious desire for me to be more open with the relationship, to have eyes on us as a proper couple, unjudged despite the circumstances

But i knew that was never happening so i took my frustration out through paintings

>>41748093
>41748093
Wow you are down BAD for my dad. I will forgive the use of "fuckdoll" out of politeness. I was his wife and referred to as such.

He helped me alot with early transition stuff, yes he did actually help me with makeup and styling my hair. It was always something he wanted to do with my mother, but she hated him and never let him, he was DELIGHTED that i actually wanted him to help me look pretty. It was just one of many reasons i replaced my mother.

We did alot of kink exploring, BDSM was part of it but he was also scared about hurting me so it never got rough. Mostly just a combination of handcuff play and overstimulation was what we enjoyed, or sensory deprevation.

Is that enough fap fuel for you? Its obvious what yor intent was

>>41748093
https://archived.moe/lgbt/thread/41718117
>>41748153
Don't know why you're surprised people are coming here to jerk off when you're spending more words on the jerk off material than the boring stuff

>>41748153
>no spanking

Should have tempted him by wearing a schoolgirl outfit and constantly wiggling in front of him talking about what a bad girl you are