the point of manmoding is to hide being trans

>>42134368
yes but I feel like a weirdo when other people celebrate male failing meanwhile I just go "oh fuck"

>>42134382
Because they're fetishists and perverts who get off on being perceived as female

>>42134390
it's weird though I feel like trannies are supposed to enjoy male failing

>>42134405
maybe it's like the saying that a dog wouldn't know what to do with the car they've been chasing. you got something you wanted but don't know how to process it

>>42134444
maybe. im an anxious fuck in general though, and HRT did not help. being a guy is safe, i guess, but ive honmoded before and had fun. just get scared of the fact that male failing is sometimes scary.

>>42134475
It's part of the process, I'm afraid.
When I malefailed the first few times I either didn't notice or got mildly scared. Then I loved it. Then I stopped manmoding. But the whole process took almost 2 years.

>>42134906
I go through a cycle of manmoding and honmoding. I remember getting she/her'd for the first time when kinda honmoding in a plausibly deniable way and having a breakdown.

I've been anxious since I got home from the pharmacy desu so it's just weird. I've also been feeling weird about my hips filling out more lately.

some people will deliberately do the opposite of what they think you want to goad you.

>>42134960
Very much not the case here. She called me ma'am and asked me if I was [insert someone else's last name] and when I said no the malefail was kinda broken and I saw the "oh wait this is a tranny" face appear. Do not voicepass.

>>42134983
>Do not voicepass.
VOICE TRAINING! Like, for real!
The malefails will get more often. Voicepassing is under your control.

>I go through a cycle of manmoding and honmoding

I never honmoded outside music festivals.
I just malefailed until it was so obvious that I had to stop manmoding.

>>42135016
I know! I get wormy about it. I crashed out trying to voice train earlier and even attempted to detroon because of it. I have weird anxiety issues around my voice because I used to be bullied a lot for it being too faggy and was praised endlessly for developing a deep singing voice in response.

never malefailed after 6 years of hrt and laser.

>>42135174
That sucks... :(

>>42135052
>developing a deep singing voice in response

That means it should be easier, ngl. Your chords are already accustomed with the process.

>>42135302
It should be but I am so horribly wormed because singing like that was basically how I repped??? Like I think I trooned out in part because I lived in an environment where I couldn't sing due to noise issues.

>>42135358
You gotta kill that brainworm, nona. You can do it. I know you can. Because we all had to. It seems impossible, but it really isn't.

I started at 25 and here I am a married woman at 42. I never believed anything was possible. But little by little, brainworm by brainworm slowly but meticulously killed, things started happening.

Hugs.

>>42135623
Oh we've spoken before in other threads. I'm the 26yo troon who started at 25. I was very wormed from the start because religious education and then literally every tranny I met before trooning out being highly dysfunctional, including my own transbian sister.

>>42135639
You malefailed in a year?
I swear to God that I'd be very rude if you were standing in my face now (kinda joking, but not really if you know what i mean).
You already exceeded most best case scenario. Please, don't sabotage yourself.

>literally every tranny I met before trooning out being highly dysfunctional
Even more reason to work harder to prove it's possible.

But, really, the main reason is because you deserve to be happy. And you CAN.
It's a chance to do reset of everything and keep only what you like. The religious education is in the past. It happened. No way to change that. But you don't have to carry it over with you.

>>42135712
first malefail was 3 months but I was kinda androgyny moding and today was the first proper malefail (and even then I had black nail polish on) and only lasted until I stood up and spoke (was sitting down waiting for a labcorp appointment).

I unfortunately carry *so many brainworms* from back then. Stumbled across Susan's Place when I was 12 and got super spooked and also prayed to not be gay. I didn't even accept being androphilic until I was 19 and it took until 24 to admit that it wasn't just the occasional exception...

>>42135752
One brainworm at a time.
First the voice. You already have the competence and it is also the most urgent.
Then slowly learn to love yourself. Then slowly learn to allow yourself to be loved.

>Stumbled across Susan's Place when I was 12 and got super spooked and also prayed to not be gay
These ones will heal themselves with time. Especially if you do those above.
I'm serious! Just trust the process.
I even got to forgive and forget those who've done harm to me >>42124018
Time heals everything, nona.

>>42135838
I'm moving into a new place soon and the privacy will help with voice training. I'll also have another trans roommate to practice with and she's actually got her shit together which is good!

>>42135851
I hope it works out for you. I didn't have the chance to have a tgirl to grow together with.
But do keep in mind that it's a double-edged sword, unfortunately. Hugboxing is real and dangerous.

>>42135882
I trust her to be honest. She's kind of a no nonsense transbian (actually really attractive and I kinda crushed on her a bit before I realized that I might be mostly androphilic). Frankly I'm more worried about the third roommate who is "queer" (spicy cis, not sure on their orientation).

>>42135897
You'll make it. Your head is mostly well screwed, your heart is in the right place - all you need is an occasional bump/nudge.
Be selfish for once. Because if you get this right, then you will no longer have to care about what others think.

Also, take it from the pseudo-expert: the less you look something, the more you find it. You already learned that with malefailing (I'm low-key envious, btw). But it applies to everything: voicepass, finding a loving man and even economic opportunity.
The more you focus on yourself, the more you get locus control and confidence. And confidence itself attracts nice things.

Cissoids don't "clock" trannies. They clock fear and lack of confidence. Once you fix those, passoid is a walk in the park very much literally. It took me 7 years (ish) to learn that. You can do it by 2028 at the latest.
You only get one shot at life. Don't blow it. Or if you do, swallow :3 (sorry, not sorry)

>>42135956
I definitely made the mistake of being in this glass closet at work. Everyone knows I'm a tranny there but like I can't bring myself to come out for some reason. Like I literally wore a dress for Halloween at work and everyone saw my tits.

>>42134266
Do you retarded niggers ever have one intelligent realization

>>42136037
no why do you think I'm on this website