I've started hrt while still unsure whether I really want to transition or not. With hrt starting to have an effect on my body, it has forced me to confront reality, and I've realized that transitioning is something I really don't want for myself. I don't actually want to be a woman, I don't actually want the effects of hrt, the effort required will not make me any happier, because I have a firm male identity.I've only ever came so far thinking I may be trans, because I was foolish enough to believe that "the grass is greener on the other side". Not in any "women have it easier" sense, but in a "I wouldn't have ever been so miserable if I were a woman" sense. I was delusional enough to believe this for quite a while, and kept myself in denial that I'm only so miserable as a man, not because I hate being a man, but because I loathe being myself."Being a woman", and thus also the gender dysphoria I faked to myself, was just a scapegoat for me to blame all my flaws, shortcomings, and failures on a non-existent issue.Despite all of that, I still haven't stopped taking hrt, even though it's making me feel horrible, as I know that I will come to severely regret it. Every week when it's time to take my shot, I have completely freak out at how I'm destroying my life, being crippled by dread and disgust at what I'm doing, yet I still keep doing my shot, each time justifying it with "It won't do much. Just one more won't hurt.", and then severely regretting it immediately after. Then I keep gaslighting myself that I actually enjoy the changes, so I don't have to face reality, and confront my own mistakes head on.I am too weak-willed and foolish to break my own denial and delusions, and I'm actively tearing my life apart because of it. How can I actually accept that I truly am cis, and find the willpower to overcome my self-hatred in a more constructive manner?
holy cope you just need a bf
>>42227633I am not sexually attracted to men. I've actually repressed my normal male sexuality under the guise of "dysphoria", and I know it will come back if I work on accepting myself and stop being in denial about being cis
>>42227622Cigarettes and alcohol
>>42227633>>42227644holy cope you just need a gf
Do shrooms and see if you have some kind of conflict resolving epiphany
>>42227669I'm not coping, I'm finally trying to face reality and save myself from harming myself even more by injecting estrogen. For that I need to work on accepting myself as cis.I'm aware it's insensitive of me to ask for help here, since this isn't a trans issue, but I'm kinda desperate
>>42227693Therapy would probably help you but you probably don’t have the means to get therapy also this is the worst place to ask for help on how you’re feeling
>>42227704The wait-lists for a good therapist are way too long, and I need to stop myself from injecting any more estrogen asap.You're right that this isn't the best place for genuine advice, but I still prefer it over any other trans space on the internet
>>42227679I did try shrooms, but the dose was too low for any meaningful epiphanies. They just made me aware of how truly pathetic I actually am, and also made reconfirmed to me that I barely feel human
>>42227622checked, good for you.get off it, get therapy, start lifting.
>>42227693NO INJECT E RNU NEED ESTROGEnU NEED TO FEMINIZEU WILL BE SO MUCH HAPPPIERRRRTAKE E NOWWWWWW
>>42227622I have no clue how to interpret this because this is how I was thinking when my self esteem was like nightmarishly low, and I decided later in that it was just extreme self hate talking. I mean, my opinion doesn't matter cuz I really don't know u, but just don't torture yourself. Whatever you do, you clearly should not give yourself a hard time about it.
>>42227812did you continue down the tranny path or did you actually get better?low self-esteem/being invisible fosho is easy to mistake for dysphoria
>>42227786I made this thread right after having done my injection and immediately regretting it. How tf do I actually stop myself from making the same mistake next week?>start liftingI will. I'm lucky that my muscles haven't atrophied much yet. Definitely really liked working out prior to all of this
>>42227821you think like you need help with that.idk about your situation, but maybe there's detrans self-help groups of some sort, maybe you have a friend you havent talked to in a while, maybe you have a biosister who could step in.i think lifting and doing other hard shit (bouldering? hiking? that sort of thing?) helps with self-esteem.i dont really have great advice here, and i wish i did.
>>42227812>just extreme self hate talkingYeah, that's definitely the case for me as well. It's ironically both the reason why I'm currently destroying my life by injecting estrogen, and also the reason why I can't stop. I feel pretty idiotic for not being able to just work on my self loathing like a normal person, and instead resorting to this inane bs
>>42227832I definitely do need to talk about this with someone irl. Talking with friends about this would be beyond humiliating though, especially since they're mostly cis women, and I'm wary of detrans groups cause most one's I've seen are just full of religious reppers. I also don't even consider myself as detrans, cause I've never really transitioned, just injected myself with estrogen like it's some sort of panacea
>>42227819Still a tranny. My obsession with repping never turned into anything and I still take my shots. I'm fairly happy now all things considered. Still are some harsh realities of life but I feel relatively fine. You'll figure your situation out either way. Mainly just stop being mean to urself if u can help it.
>>42227622i've been on hrt for 1.5 years and feel the same. don't want to transition but just wish i was a woman without doing any of the work and potentially ruining my life in the process
>>42228010I don't even want to be a woman. I just managed to delude myself that I wouldn't as miserable as I am now, if I would have been one. The thought of me actually being is revolting
why are you still taking the shots????
>>42228199At first it was in the vague hope that I'll somehow "feel better" because of it, and at this point it's probably just sunk cost fallacy. Taking "just one more shot" each week is easier to do than to admit to myself that I've made a horrible mistake
>>42228289won't you be happier off them? or is there a tiny part of you that wants to keep going?
>>42228313I wouldn't be happier immediately, but I'd surely be less miserable long term if I were to stop. No part of me actually wants to keep taking them, but each week I impulsively do my shot
>>42228385just throw them in the garbage and take it out to the street ffs
imo you should just keep injecting yourself with e until you no longer recognize yourself in the mirror and have ruined your own life
>>42228416I've definitely thought of doing so, and I really should. Being in active denial of my cisness makes it more difficult than it should be though. I'd also rather give my vial and syringes to a tranner who actually needs them, but it would be pretty weird to give someone a half used vial
>thus also the gender dysphoria I faked to myselfhow tf do you fake gender dysphoria?
>>42228484agree, trannymax ftw. most of em have mental illness anyway
>>42228726I didn't actually fake dysphoria, because one can't really fake dysphoria to oneself. I've just gaslight myself into believing that I was so miserable as a person because I was a man. Any time I saw or thought of any of my male sex characteristics, I kept insisting to myself how much I hate them, despite feeling no actual distress from it. At some point it became all I ever thought about, so I started to actually believe my own lies. Me being very indifferent towards being a man, but deeply self loathing towards myself, made it much easier convince myself
>>42228798did you socially transition, or just manmode injections? the two are completely different experiences.
>>42228809The latter. I always put off thinking about social transition because I couldn't even tell whether I wanted the effects of hrt, but being on hrt made me realize that I wouldn't want to socially transition, because I'd just be lying to both myself and anybody else. I've never even really experimented with gendered presentation, because I'm basically allergic at the mere thought of presenting more feminine
>>42227622yeah i was the same way when i started. then i actually started to enjoy having softer skin, bigger ass, and tits. some how im starting to male fail even though i know for a fact i don't pass at all. ive had multiple men at work comment on how i look like a lesbian and always get confused looks when i walk into the mens room and piss in the urinal. shits kind of based desu.
>>42227622Lord almighty. This was me before I detransed and entered a haze for five years as a successful man and nearly killed myself once I snapped out of it.Good luck Nona <3
>>42227679Shrooms aren't a magic truth serum btw. I have very often seen them reinforce people's negative and harmful views.
OP will finally stop taking his shots, feel normal for a while, and the desire to start again will creep in. many such cases.
>>42227622Oh God it's another obsessively self hating tranny that convinces themselves every aspect of their self is fake and would totally be happier doing destructive things like detransitioning.
>>42228877I feel like I've entered a haze ever since I've learned about hrt and decided to try it out, and this is me desperately trying to find a way out of this mess
>>42228921This is my 4th time on hrt already. I stopped each time because of how much I started to hate the effects
>>42227622lol same samei keep taking the pills, keep hating having boobs and feeling like a freak, wishing i was just a naturally feminine twink even though nobody looks like that past the age of 21. wishing i could just be a normal man, hating myself that i let my sexual fantasies get to this point, hating the signs of masculinity and age in the mirror, hating the signs of femininity too, the signs of my weakness. wishing for death but never getting it
>>42227622you should have known whether E was right for you wuthin a month of startingstop taking E for a month or two and see if the returning T makes you feel better
>>42228947I'm not a tranny because I actively enjoy and want to be my birth sex. Any "sign" I may be trans is what is actually fake
>>42228967You just sound nonbinary, as opposed to me. I've never wanted to look feminine or like a twink, I have no issues with just being a normal man, I have no sexual fantasies when it comes to being a woman, yet I still somehow ended up injecting myself with estrogen weekly
>>42229017well then it is a little hard to understand then, what do you think you are trying to accomplish?
>>42228976>you should have known whether E was right for you wuthin a month of startingThis is complete bs. I've been up to around 4 months on hrt at most (6mg EEn weekly), and I felt no different on it. It had no "mental effects" whatsoever. Stopping hrt for over 6 months also had didn't make me feel any different
>>42228963then why in God's name have you re-started 3 consecutive times, when you claim to hate it?
>>42228977Then why not just stop BRO. Fucking faggot.
>>42227622I feel the same way who's been on and off and testosterone for the past two years. It hurts so much that I can't even put any basic effort into my transition and constantly miss my shots, I feel like I'll be doomed to never be anything more than a cis woman who tricked herself into wanting to be male while everyone else is able to move on and socially integrate as men.
>>42228963then why in God's name have you re-started 3 consecutive times, when you claim to hate it...?
>>42229028>what do you think you are trying to accomplish?When I first considered hrt, it was with the genuine hope that it would make feel happier, but it didn't take long to realize that this hope was misplaced and foolish. Now I'm just too stubborn to admit that I was wrong and that I really should stop
you invented a problem for yourself and are now trying to gather life advice from people on fucking 4chan, whatever problem you have is incurable
>>42229075>>42229092I'm not the brightest tool in the shed. Each time I restarted it thinking "Maybe this time I won't hate it, and it will actually make me feel better." to myself
>>42229100but in what way would it make you happier? do you think hrt is like an anti depressant? there must be something you thought it was gonna do and you associate that with happiness. grass is greener logic?
I don't think Manmoding is ever enjoyable in any situation. to really appreciate the effects of e you have to transition in the rest of your life as well, not just inject titty serum.
>>42229143>grass is greener logic?Yeah basically. Pretty sure my thoughts were no more complex than "I hate myself, and I am a man, so if I wouldn't have been a man, I wouldn't hate myself." and "Women are pretty."
>>42228484The thought of doing this is beyond horrifying, but at this point I feel like I deserve such a fate
be honest with yourself, do you actually want help? you have the means to stop doing this, you have already acknowledged you could just throw all your e out even if you already tried to stop several times and ended up starting again. hell, give it enough time and you might be back here again, with the same problem as you have right now. the thing is, no one is forcing you to do this. if you truly want to give this up, you have the means to do so. even if you start it up again later, there is nothing that will actually prevent you from stopping again, no matter how many times this cycle repeats itself. as far as i can tell, you're setting yourself up for failure by refusing to make good choices in your life by yourself and instead expecting other people to make your life choices for you. it's honestly sad.
>>42229460>do you actually want help?I do, but you are right, I am setting myself up for failure, by expecting others to make life choices for me, and it really is sad. I have all the means to actually act and solve my issues, yet I wallow in my own misery and use this board as a means to vent. It definitely is my own fault that I've ended up in this situation. Guess I'll just have to man up, both figuratively and literally
>>42229460>its honestly sadlife is full of such people who live miserable lives, make mistakes all the time that put them on a road to ruin. they are all around you all the time, if only you truly knew how many people live in misery because they arent capable of making choices that lead to happiness, due to fear or anxiety or regret or whatever.
>>42227622You sound like me about 2 years into hrt.I came out from this crisis deciding to go through with the transition.Turns out I really needed a bf.Whatever you do, the only way out of this crisis is through it, I'm afraid. And at the end you need to accept the result, whichever that may be.t. >>42231038
idk i'm not trutrans and it feels like i'm banging my head against the wall trying to make this work
>>42227622just stop being a pussy and trash all your stuff if you really hate it so much, i understand lacking self control but it's not like e has any addictive effects lol you aren't getting high off this shit. i've read through this entire thread and nothing you're saying makes sense... it cannot be that hard. or, maybe you really are a fucking tranny and it's over for you - so in that case just rope i guess.
tfw the only choices are>keep going with estrogen, feel like a fake and an imposter, feel like the changes are wrong but that you have to continue anyway, never become a woman because you are moid through and through>give up, detransition, spend thousands to cut your breasts off or just do nothing because you cant afford it anyway, watch yourself masculinise into an old man, be dead inside, live for no reason with nothing to hope for, wonder why you are a man and yet are totally incapable of liking anything about yourself and never find the answer because there isnt one and you are just an unremarkable loserbeing faketrans is like being the biggest loser ever, like billions of people dont struggle with this shit, they are just fine being themselves, ugly people, fat people, old people. they are just themselves, but no i have to be obsessessed with becoming something im not and lose decades of my life to stress and anxiety over it AND im not even trans. i cant wait to die
>>42227821>How tf do I actually stop myself from making the same mistake next week?You've still got agency over yourself, it's easier not to do something than it is to do something. Cultivate that feeling of defiance and tell that part of you that makes you get estrogen even when you don't want to to fuck off. Treat it like an addiction, like quitting nicotine or booze or drugs. Do it out of pure spite towards that part of yourself if nothing else. Best of luck.
>>42231769I will throw it away first thing tomorrow, but I really don't like how my mind cringes at the idea. It really feels like doing so would also mean that I'll have to come to terms with the consequences of my actions. I'll have to eventually do it either way, but for now it's easier to believe a convenient lie than an unpleasant truth. That's why I struggle to accept that I'm cis, I believe
I actually like that you want to stop but can't stop, it's in the forced feminization genre of trans porn, except you're feminizing yourself against your will. Keep us posted, I think It'll be hot whether or not you stop or continue.
I'm similar but i don't hate the effects of hrt. I just think I'm just too masculine and feel cringe acting womanly which means I'm fake trans
>>42232014this
>>42231989That's literally what it feels like. I feel like I'm possessed. Last time I got really high, I started dissociating and a voice inside my own head started taunting me how she'll forcefem me and that I have no choice but to submit. I have never found any type of feminization appealing
>>42232014you have to chip away at the male ego until it's entirely gonehttps://www.youtube.com/transvoicelessons
>>42232014I hate the effects of estrogen because of my male identity. I just know I'm not supposed to have any of these changes to my body, and thus they alienate me. I understand why a trans woman would want them, but that's just not who I am
>>42232087same i hate myself so muc hfor doing this to myselfi have amassive manly jaw and now i have boobs, what a fucking joke
>>42232087I'm male and I think growing tits would be annoying and kind of silly but I wouldn't lose my shit over them. Just get em removed.
>>42231700I'm really happy for you that transition was the right choice in the end. It really does feel like the only way oit of this mess is through, but I've got admit that I'm completely exhausted by it all, and really struggle to make any meaningful progress. It's mostly a skill issue on my part though
>>42232141>I've got admit that I'm completely exhausted by it all, and really struggle to make any meaningful progressYep, that was me.My former self would scream: "this ain't working. dafuq are you doing?" while my new self would be "but it does, here's these minuscule but visible elements of progress. we can do this"Not saying it is/will be the same with you. But you have to let this "battle" happen and take it seriously. Running away from it won't help.>It's mostly a skill issue on my part thoughIt is. You have to constantly remind yourself that you are in control. Nobody is coming to save you.Hugs
>>42227622>find the willpower to overcome my self-hatred in a more constructive mannerYou need Christ.
>>42227821>I made this thread right after having done my injection and immediately regretting it.how did you feel about it when you first started?
>>42232263Hopeful, but very wary and skeptical. I felt insane for even considering it, hoped that being on it for a while will change the way I feel, only for it to get worse with each passing week
>>42231989>tfw you aren't your own sexy spiteful stepmother who burns all your boy clothes and forces you to the doctor for special "vitamin shots" after you catch yourself raiding your own sexy lingerie collectionwhy even live?
>>42232294so it didn't make you feel good initially and then you changed your mind?
>>42232333It made me feel nothing initially, so I just kept taking it in hopes it would make me feel anything positive. That never happened though, and now it's getting harder to deny the fact that I shouldn't have even begun in the first place
>>42227622this is LITERALLY me and I’ve been at it for 3yrs now. Every day I go increasingly insane. Pls stop before you become like me
>>42232485hm couldn't be me loland did you make the last 3 threads or whatver with the same subject this week or is this actually common??
>>42232491I'm trying my best... Or at least I'm trying to try my best
>>42232506It really depends to what threads you're referring to, and I barely remember what happened yesterday, so I also don't remember what threads I've made recently. I have definitely posted similar threads though l, but most weren't particularly recent
>>42227622becoming a girl isn't going to fix the bad habits and problems you probably have in your life.Fix those first before you even think of taking another shot. You'll be a happy man and you may laugh at ever thinking that taking feminine shots would somehow achieve your goals which are not even attached to gender.
>>42232185>But you have to let this "battle" happen and take it seriously. Running away from it won't help. It has definitely reached a stalemate, and no matter what I let happen, it feels profoundly wrong and forced. It feels like I've imposed a problem upon myself which should've never been one, and now I'm too retarded to undo this mess
>>42232818Listen to me. Don't listen to groomers. Please.
You can still be childlike and have wonder, without being a woman.Don't let the normgroid view of masculinity do this to you. Please listen to me.Do not listen to Groomers.
psyop, just stop taking hrt and get therapy retard. dumbaes detroons act as if someone else is injecting hormones in them
>>42232708ah so you're on a benderwhat else have you been using lately?
>>42232060good girldo what she says
>>42232897I'm kinda stupid. What is a bender?>what else have you been using lately?Just estrogen and some weed
hey again OPyou can always come back to the e later if that's what you need to do. you're young af iirc - i'm late 30s and on my 3rd start of hrt lol (4th if you include test). it really sounds like you should throw your vials out and find something else to focus on for a while. and ideally try to find someone irl that will give you some time and space - that will listen to you unpack things for a few months. like a good therapist or mentor if you're lucky enough to have one of those.wishing you the best whatever you do nona
>>42232982>againAgain? What do you mean again?>you're young af iircI'm 21, so I'm young in the grand scheme of things>it really sounds like you should throw your vials out and find something else to focus on for a while.You're right, but reading this kinda made nauseous. I can't bring myself to accept that I am cis, even if I know I have no other choice
>>42232818i have a lot of problems, many of which arent to do with gender i think, and gender is so far the only one ive attempted (and failed at) solving. i know i do hate myself and find myself unappealing and like a monster at times, which makes it very hard to fix the other problems, i dont see how i could have fixed the other problems feeling as disgusting as i did and still do. if you have self worth, you can do things, if you dont have it you cant even begin.
>>42233067>I can't bring myself to accept that I am cisHUH? i thought you were adamantly cis
>>42233212I'm adamant that I really am cis, and consciously aware of the fact, but emotionally in denial of it. I know I'd hate to be a woman, but my mind still insists that this is just an attempt at repping, even though it isn't
>>42232919She is killing me
>>42233276you remind me of someone in another thread who was absolutely certain they were cisgender but also in emotional denial. Ultimately the stuck with HRT and in the long term it benefited them - it just longer than your current timeline.
>>42233382Yeah, that's almost certainly not me. Happy for her though.If you somehow remember which thread it was, I would love to look it up in the archive
>>42233456what I find more fascinating are people who identiy as cisgender but still make the pointed choice to "improve their lives" by transitioning. cis, no dysphoria, no agp. at least you're not one of those.
i've replied to this thread like 3 separate times already and the longer you drag this out the more obvious it becomes you are completely beyond help
>>42233495he's like "I guess i should throw them out right" and then proceeds to not do that KEK
>>42233307let her remake your body to her liking
>>42233482>cis, no dysphoria, no agp. at least you're not one of those.I literally am one of those. I definitely have no agp, and I've somehow managed to gaslight myself into believing I'm dysphoric, even though I'm not. It's also not like I believe that "women have it better". I just thought I could escape myself cause I hate being myself for some reason
>>42233538if you hate yourself so much see a therapist and get on antidepressants ASAP
>>42233495>>42233505I have nowhere to throw them out today, but I'll definitely do it tomorrow. You're right about me being beyond help though, but I'm aware it's all due to my own foolishness
>>42233581don't waste your money, you'll just end up buying more anyway
>>42233554I already am on antidepressants, but they're not really doing anything. Definitely would benefit from a therapist though, even if I already pity them. I just need to find a way how to un-gaslight myself from incessantly believing that being a man is an issue
>>42233581gonna buy them for the 5th time XD
>>42233728That's the main reason I haven't thrown my vial out yet tbhon. It's still the first one I bought
>>42233531Her liking is making me dysphoric and diffusing the remnants of my already shattered sense of self
>>42232491Have you ever had moments where it felt like you were doing the right thing during these 3 years?
stop trying to revive the thread by replying to random shit within it, i get you're desperate for attention and are looking for something here but it's unlikely you're going to find whatever it is you're looking for by continuing to try to probe people for answers you want them to give you that they don't actually haveno one here cares about you or your problems, and at this point i'm starting to think you're trolling because you're going on and on in circleswhy can't you throw the bottle away today? seriously, you have two choices here and you seem resistant to actually make either of them, you talk about being self aware of all of your problems here yet you still won't make an actual decision on what you should domy honest suggestion at this point is to call the police you're going to kill yourself and to let them take you to the hospital so you can spend a few days away from the internet
>>42235052I really appreciate this reply. Thank you for the reality check. I really do need to get off the grid for a while.Unfortunately I'm not trolling. I really am this desperate and also feel like I've lost any sense of reason I may have had. Even I myself struggle to understand what my issue actually is, yet expect others to by posting this.
>>42235052>no one here cares about you or your problemsThen what's the point of the board?
>>42235258the only point of this board is to let a bunch of retards circlejerk each other endlessly about a bunch of shit that doesn't actually matter like any other part of the internet
>>42235289>Hormone drug addiction>"shit that doesn't actually matter"Pick one.
>>42235351you can't be addicted to estrogen
>>42235351i'm not going to get into an argument with someone retarded enough to think you can develop a genuine addiction to injecting yourself with estrogen
>>42235390You don't know what you're talking about.
>>42235423I do actuallyestrogen addiction doesn't existyour problem is that you're possessed by a succubus
>>42235404Every time one of these threads comes along it becomes more clear that you faggots don't even know what addiction means.
>>42235438Not really.
>>42235449yes really
>>42235478Why do you lie so much?
>>42235487I never lie
people started really pushing back on the stupid shit you were saying so now you've started to get defensive because as you've already proven you're incapable of making any good choices for yourselflook, maybe you are really addicted to injecting yourself with fucking estrogen, anything's possible, but are you going to do anything about that?the answer is obviously no, proven multiple times over by the thread alreadyyou desperately want people to care about you to the point of trying to start a genuine argument when i told you nobody here cares because you don't want to accept the reality that random retards on the internet who don't know you personally aren't actually concerned about if you live or diei'm not even going to bother replying anymore because you're nothing more than a waste of my time and energy, but i'm sure some other retard here will fill my shoes as soon as i'm gone anyway, so you'll be sure to get all the attention you desperately crave
>>42235545The anon going on about being addicted to estrogen wasn't me. I'm well aware estrogen isn't addictive, and I've never claimed it to be.
>>42235583my bad then, sorry
>>42235675Nah, no need to apologize. You're are right about everything else
>>42231826do you know what a binder is? did you know that you can just throw away the hormones? are you retarded or a crybaby? psyop post
>>42227622This is so stupid.Taking HRT is a positive action, something you actively do and requires ongoing effort to continue, as opposed to a negative action, where discontinuation requires active effort.All you have to do to stop taking HRT is:>Toss your vials.>Stop showing up for your doctors appointments.>Never pick up more needles and syringes.So the question is: why don't you?Either this is some truly stupid b8 or you are lying to yourself and you really do want to keep taking it.If you haven't come out to the world, there's nothing to keep you from ridding yourself of these shackles, which have to be re-tightened every week.
>>42236610As someone in a similar position, it’s hard to stop bc it’s hard to fully admit you royally fucked up especially if you had been thinking about trooning out for many years prior
>>42235704>did you know you can just throw away the hormonesthats what the second part was addressing.
til that social transition is important and i will be putting myself into a position to enable myself to socially transition and be around people that support me asap
bruh if you don't want to do it you would've stopped already. part of you clearly wants to do it.
>>42236631yes this as well, its like i remember the despair before i started using hrt as a maladaptive coping mechanism, i dont want to go back to that but even worse. id rather die, even though im not trans at all. its more about what hrt represents psychologically than what it actually does, which is just harm me and feed my delusions of rebirth.
https://voca.ro/1lAaIFB2L92T
OP is literally force feminizing himself against his own wishes, it's real life fetish being played out.
>>42236769yea same it’s like so much of my life before hrt was a cope for being a “repper” and now that I realized I’m not trans i don’t know wtf I would do. I think that’s why so many detrooners seek religion, it’s like you still need something to obsess over and build your life around. Idk if that would work with me tho
>>42236869just keep taking your hrt, because a cis guy on hrt is based and valid
>>42236886It feels wrong tho, and most of all I just wish I could feel like a normal human
>>42236896you are a normal human, taking hrt is normal, and there's nothing wrong with it. you're letting society and preconceived notions dictate your thinking.
>>42236949exogenous estrogen didn’t even exist until the mid 20th century and only a tiny percentage of the population take it, there’s nothing normal about it and yes I would apply the same logic to any meds that alter your appearance
>>42237015then stop if it's so bad, hypocrite
>>42236800why do all the men on this website have the exact same voice
>>42237084I want to but it’s hard that’s what this whole fucking thread is about
>>42236800>why do this if you arent gaycause men are ugly as FUCK
>>42236865I can guarantee you that nothing about this whole thing has ever been sexually gratifying for even a second>>42237129For how long have you been struggling with this, and how did you end up in this situation as well?
>>42236800canadian?
>>42238506Almost 3yr now, I got into bc I’ve had agp and bdd since I was 12 but then after a few months of hrt my agp went away and I realized I’m definitely not trans. But it’s been hard to stop I’ve tried quitting 3 times so far
hrt doesnt exist, youre dissolving vitamin b under your tongue and injecting saline. transseuxals do not exist,
>>42239157At this point just fully commit to the bit and work on fully transitioning, if you're able to.Or determine why you've failed to quit until now, and work on that
>>42239584this. you clearly are incapable of quitting after buying HRT 4 times so the reason to continue on that path is self-evident.
>>42239866That nona wasn't me. I've haven't been injecting for 3 years like her. At least I've managed to finally throw away my vial today. Now onto getting therapy and working towards accepting that I'm cis. Thanks for all the replies and sorry for being desperate and annoying
>>42228889didn't take enough.
>>42231826>give up, detransition, spend thousands to cut your breasts off or just do nothing because you cant afford it anyway, watch yourself masculinise into an old man, be dead inside, live for no reason with nothing to hope for, wonder why you are a man and yet are totally incapable of liking anything about yourself and never find the answer because there isnt one and you are just an unremarkable loserWoah, that's literally me
>>42227622Sounds like you need a man to give you your shots, dick you down in a mating press, fill you up with cum and then force you to admit that you are, in fact, a good girl.