Can we not just do the trans thing without the I'm actually a real woman thing? Like I'd accept a weirdo just wanted to be left alone to play make believe and dress up over what we have now any day. Many also would be the same as me.
No. TERFs wouldn't accept that either. They'd call it womanface.
this is retarded considering how you people act over drag queens, fem gays, and crossdressers. i just saw a video of a cis gay man getting harassed out of the mens bathroom for wearing makeup and having a navel piercing
>>42276969neither you or other people who have problems with transgender people would accept that.
>>42277141thiscompromising with them will only embolden them to attack us more.
>>42276969>wewho is we nigga>make believe>dress upget away from me sissynigger
Mozu cute
>>42276969i mean thats what i do, im ok with everyone calling me a guy for the rest of my life so long as i can avoid looking like a man
>>42276969As an occasional crossdresser this is my position, yes.
>>42277603You are how trans was 15 year back. I wish we could go back. You are a 4chan tranny.
>>42277627If somebody calls me a guy then it's because they know I'm trans and are deliberately trying to cause problems for me. Strangers never call me a guy.
>>42277678Tbh I'm not going to call you a girl, but I respect your cholce to present yourself as one. Does that make sense? Gender non-conformity is not something that ever bothered me. It's the "You (institution or person) should see me as an actual woman and treat me exactly as such" that made me go completely against trans.
>>42277713You're not even going to know lol
>>42277723That's a bet then.Honestly though what do you think of Mozu?
>>42277742I don't know who/what that is.
>>42277756It's a vtuber who has big boobs that get bigger sometimes.
>>42277774That doesn't sound like something I'd be interested in.
>>42277794You wouldn't be interested in big boobs? Huh?
>>42277806I like men and masculinity.
>>42277822You should like women and big boobs too. Go on.
>>42277840I tried before and they just don't do anything for me. I don't even like my own breasts.
>>42277854So are you like a straight woman then? Like a very straight one?
>>42277869I guess so? I was into guys even before puberty.
>>42277891If you are a woman then, you should make out with other women because to me a male it is beautiful. I don't really care if it's what you're into. Just do some flirty kissy things with women because it makes me feel good.
>>42277937Sorry. Doing anything with women squicks me out.
>>42277627Why are you being so dishonest?>>42277713>"You (institution or person) should see me as an actual woman and treat me exactly as such"Based, anyone who is against it is transphobic and doens't belong in a polite society. Go back to the mountains caveman.>>42277774Loser
>>42277947Ummm well it isn't really your choice here. Kiss women a whole lot. Kiss them everywhere on their bodies. Don't ever let a single bit of their bodies go unkissed.
>>42277958Do you not understand that I'm transphobic by now, tumblr?
>>42276969that's not the trans thing tho that's just crossdressing with extra stepsyou are ignoring the biological component
>>42278043The trans thing is lame and gay. Let's do away with it though? Come on.
>>42278043In the vast majority there is no material biological component, just self-induced autoheterosexuality.>>42277974First time encountering a genuine homosexual transsexual, eh?
>>42278117I really don't care what you think or feel. Kiss women are you die.
>>42278107so just let point seven percent of the population live their entire lives in a state of chemical castration and body horror?great plan lets see how this pans out
>>42278144It's a fringe though and the fringe is always in a state of eteranl hell.
>>42278144Explain chemical castration and body horror occurring together.
>>42278165in transsexuals and other related intersex defects sex differentiated structures related to neurological development and endocrine regulation take the opposite pattern to the gonadsthis results in a proprioceptive mismatch and a hormone mix inadequate for adult brain functiondepression low sex drive flattened affect poor long term planning, the effects are many and more pronounced if the patient never had enough estrogens/testosterones for long enough to 'go though puberty' as it were
>>42278237trannies are not intersexand if the problem is inadequate hormones for brain function then give them their natal sex hormones not cross sex hormonesthe standard treatment for e.g. mild androgen insensitivity is testosterone, not estrogen
>>42278117and those are cross dressers not transpretty easy to tell being that the trannies start off fucked before hormones and get betterthe men and women into roleplay will start functional and get fucked by hrtagain the biological component IS the trans thinganything else is just identity and is of no concern to health and law>>42278265i mean, they arewhich is why we do not do thatfurther skewing the mix towards say male levels in a female patient will fuck them up more not less cis or transso we have a patient with multiple sex incongruities and you say that's not intersex, alright what should i be calling it instead?
I want to make it very clear. trannies who enofrce their gender idfentity like an bunch of trannoids will be rejected. Tranoinds who accept their natuenwill be embraced. Aceept or dont.
>>42278331'the nature of trannoids'according to whothe sociologists or the younger more brightly colored sociologistsor maybe you'll be the third option the debate needs and actually listen to the doctors
>>42278329If a person is intersex then they will have an actual intersex diagnosis."I was always shy and a bit thin for a boy" is not intersex."I feel like a girl inside" is not intersex."I hate looking male" is not intersex."I have a small Adam's apple" is not intersex."I have a high digit ratio" is not intersex.The vast majority of trannies are autohets who want to date their reflection, but can't until it looks sufficiently like the opposite sex to them.
>>42278402what if i'm a straight mtf who never developed body or facial hair even tho i trooned out at 24
>>42278402that's blanchard patterhaving nervous system components of a second sex chromosome expression opposite the actual chromosome is intersexhaving the balls and brains not of the same pattern is intersexyou are talking that social shit again there are biological differences between cis and trans you seem to want to dissappear, well i mean it's there you can measure thembelieve what you want, that's what belief is for after all but start making claims an i'm going to have to bring you back to reality
>>42276969The pussy doesn't come off when I get undressed retard
>>42276969Yep, this is where it got really dumb really fast.
>>42278608Where it went from I went from I see myelf a woman to you have to see me as a woman also.
>>42278402>autohetsbullshit>wee wee i love dokkktors i want to suck dokkktor cock pick mee pick mee i vill wait the 10 year waitlist because uh ima huzzy not like you evil fetishists its fine being a sissy!
>>42278626yYeah, and the Lily Tino's, and anyone who disagrees with me is a terf and should be attacked mentality. So self defeating and dumb.
But that's politicisation and attantion seeking social media for you. People who remember the early 2000's remember a much cooler time for the community. It's gone backwards since then spiritually. Just a political block for the most part now. Need to ditch the politics and get back to realness. But to many modern trans it's the same thing.
>>42278654Yeah will you feel me when it's up to my choice?
>>42278731What is yout opinion of of the vtuber Mozxumi pichi she is a cutety and wants her vbreastts to be front and centre for her.
>>42276969I really don't see a reason not to claim womenhood, I feel like people would hates us regardless of what we want to be seen as.
All of these anti-trans takes consistently ignore peer reviewed and scientific census on the study of transgender brains, gender dysphoria, best practices for treatment and transgender legitimacy. None of your arguments stand up to science backed reality and you all live in echo chambers allergic to education.Links to studies:>>42272111>>42272127>>42272155>>42272182>>42272214>>42272236>>42272255
>>42279201The "treatment" amounts to "give the fetishists what they want because they refuse anti-psychotics and will probably get an infection injecting themselves with random crap otherwise"
>>42278432Probably lying tbhonLots of trannies brazenly lie about their physical developmentActual intersex people who transition talk first about being total social misfits. They don't start by talking about their supposed lack of development
>>42279764>>42278432Also some ethnicities e.g. Native Americans just tend not to grow much facial or body hair. So what. It doesn't make them intersex and they don't go rushing to troon out at huge rates.
>>42279735>t. didn’t read, and doesn’t care about what’s proven trueyeah we all know who you are
>>42279735For what it's worth, plenty of trans people have been on antipsychotics and it doesn't seem to have worked like that.
>>42276969Am just a boy on estrogen.. that is the plan
>>42279735>oy vey i want you to chemically lobotomize yourself because what you want upsets me
>>42276969Freddy fazbear handprint
