https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uqaxj0LA1Ucpost your feminized voice. dont be weird to us
https://voca.ro/14Vbzbwl98l5
https://voca.ro/1aoKymcnh4UB>>42284582why did they appreciate it? am i too stupid to understand this (maybe)anyhow you still sound pretty good! just nasal, is all :)
>>42284582btw the way is this >>42284530 you or am i tone-deaf..it sounds nice anyhow, whoever it is
>>42284669appreciated like the blue collar workers thought i was a hottie and flirted even though i was nervous>5 minute audio!!?whoa>nasalmy nemesis....https://voca.ro/1mTYlBDGwANj
>>42284692yar thats me
>>42284696that's so dopeness nona good for you!! ;pyou sounded out of breath by the end of this recording were you forgetting when to breathe? this happens to me sometimes when i'm nervous...if not nerves, though, that might also be something to work on.very cool to have an exercise buddy though!!!!! i wish i had someone like that. i wonder if you'll be doing the same thing i am now lol>>42284703oh good! i really liked that recording :) speak however you're comfortable, but i wanted to say that i thought you sounded great there and that if you wanted to you could definitely have a lower voice...i think you may have been pushing just a tad too low and it sounded slightly forced but it sounded easy for you and i liked it a lot. as you were talking about "modify[ing the voice] downward" i thought you sounded best, particularly, i think, at the first syllable of "modify". just food for thought, i suppose.
i cant believe i have to bump a vtg with this op pic at six replies hello
>>42284564I don't understand how to voice train, am I stupid?
>>42286403probably not; what don't you understand? it is very much multifaceted
>>42286411I don't know how to move my muscles, like how to control weight
>>42286734it took me a minute to find, but we used to have a pasta for resources. last thread (>>42206600) was also very successful and may be worth perusing, if you have the time.here are some other links which have been floating around lately:http://lena.kiev.ua/voice/ (this is probably what you want right this moment)https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbuymeacoffee.com%2Falyssavt%2Fno-explanations-instructions-feminizing (i still haven't read through this one but i keep posting it.....le sigh..if you read it tell me whether it's any good i've got to go to work)https://wiki.sumianvoice.com/wiki/pages/voice-examples/ (this one is for imitation, i think; i have checked it but not too closely)what you will first want to do is learn how to manipulate your larynx, which is described by Lena above and in some resources below. big dog, small dog, and swallow-and-hold are two easy methods for just starting out.>pasta:•Tool for visualizing pitch and resonancehttps://acousticgender.space/▶ Resources MTF:--- Full MTF Course ---•L's Guidehttps://www.reddit.com/r/transvoice/comments/d3clhe/ls_voice_training_guide_level_1_for_mtf/•Google Dochttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1gLIOxG9Oq8Ncs1z-c1uvHAgZ43bYGuwdJtLQrQ9EyDg/•Supplement L's guide with...False Folds:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdsaPJdU24s•Vocal Fold Thickness:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PNnBRBfOVY&t=146s--- Larynx Stuff ---•Whisper Siren:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Noi2qERus•General overview/swallow and hold method:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ro2R3esHAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWWevU4A5mU•Big dog/small dog:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx4dPWKVt9o▶ Resources FTM:---•http://www.radical-musicology.org.uk/2008/Constansis.htm•https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24155064•https://pastebin.com/CCw9czC0
>>42286734>>42286908i ran out of characters, but i also recommend to literally everyone that you should be singing!!!!! it is not targeted practice and thus will take longer than using these resources and trying specific things, but singing will teach you, by its very nature, everything you need to know about your voice, just by the simple act of your doing it. i can't be too wordy now because i do have to go to work but my favorite stuff to sing, and what worked, accidentally, for me many years ago was post-hardcore music. please, please be careful, though, that if you choose to scream you do so SAFELY. this is something you absolutely should look for specific and detailed tutorials on. but the high vocals of post-hardcore music are actually mostly produced through the same sorts of techniques you'll want to use for voice-training.
>>42286908>>42286944Thank you!
>>42286944op here i have started singing. im not to where i want to record it and put it on 4chan yet but it is helping! i am also gonna post the resources in op next time
https://voca.ro/1fpcjhpWkfGIi saw that After released a cover of Cold this morning so i was thinking about Crossfade....this song used to be my favorite like ten years ago but you can hear i have obviously forgotten it by now LOL>>42287079you are very welcome !!>>42287111nice numbers!! good luck singing it is my absolute favorite :) i hope you have as much fun with it as i
page nine!!!!!!!!
https://voca.ro/1e8YyNJ8Ci2O
>>42289484dude my ears holy shit
>>42284669your voice sounds really nice!https://voca.ro/17UFVSm4PB0k
https://voca.ro/19CP3hgW5luv>>42289484cant hear u>>42290025u sound like ur straining to speak
https://voca.ro/1gi08OTDB0KJI might make it, hopefully
>>42290117turn everything ALL the way up and you can hear my cry for help, i tested it
>>42284669I love how your voice sounds, any tips for developing mine along similar lines?
https://voca.ro/1bhF2wXWvaVptrying to lower my pitch like 30~hz but still pass as a woman and it is not going well. i just hear a man. let me know what you think, thank you. posted about it in the last thread, this is me trying to do it.>>42290150i think this is passing to cis people but clockable to trans people. it sounds good though, maybe just a bit heavy?>>42290117sounds good, i don't have any advice about loudness other than trying to sing to strengthen everything.>>42290025passes but sounds very small and quiet
Ok, me.https://voca.ro/1hvB8vZNJVa3
Ooh ooh do me https://voca.ro/14Cue1cywMiQ
https://voca.ro/1a7tBsmUUh5j>>42291160very good !! you sound a little hoarse/heavy but its definitely pretty good. a very good job screaming too>>42291062honestly i cant say too much with only 6 seconds but it sounds like a good base? honestly though between the accent, shortness, and the fact youre singing instead of talking on the fly, i cant really tell>>42290923girl you pass its perfect whatever. i cant be too mean because apparently i voicepass well too but i dont hear anything good ever lmao
>>42292329lol yeahhh I do have a really raspy voice. I used to smoke a lot of weed and I sang in a metal band in high school. Any tips on the heaviness?
>>42292329>girl you pass its perfect whatever. i cant be too mean because apparently i voicepass well too but i dont hear anything good ever lmaoi don't know what this means at all :)
>>42292439it means you sound good and youre delusional for hearing a male voice. the second half is me saying i cant judge you too hard because im the same way i cant ever imagine not a male voice when i hear myself
https://voca.ro/1elkKcnaFTydfugayzi
my voice sounds andro af rn it usually sounds more feminine but i’m sick and half whispering https://voca.ro/1mtiiWH8mqVE
>>42290025thank you nona :)http://fit450.com/HTML/5BX_Intro.htmlthis is doable at home!!!!!!i am also scared of the gym hence my never having gone..it helps that the one at my firehouse is a little more private; i was all alone for like an hour and a half in there.anyhow you sound great honestly :) it sounds like it could be a tad strained, like you are either pushing yourself too high or trying to speak quietly, but you have great resonance and you are remarkably non-nasal which is very lucky or very skilled of you. good job nona.>>42290117correct! you are a little nasal i think but that is the only problem i hear. i don't know if i really have advice for speaking loudly, but theoretically your volume should come more from below (breath support) than your vocal tract proper, so you should be able to speak however loudly you would like without issue. theoretically. idk if that is useful at all but maybe it helps clear a mental block or something idk..>>42290150true!!!!!!!! you do sound great :) definitely keep yourself in practice so that you can get used to it but i hear almost nothing to criticize here, aside from a slight nasality which is only to a degree such as i sometimes hear in cis women's voices anyways. ygmi nona good luck at your job :)>>42290742no...i'm sorry. i'm a luckshit, i think :( the advice i give to most people is to speak as naturally as possible (so basically focus on resonance and let pitch sit where it will) although i am beginning to think this is sort of ignorant. if it works for you, though, that's pretty much my whole voice.>>42290923breathy but you do not sound like a guy at all lol. brainworms. you're also a bit monotone but that's not really a clocky thing; just something you could work on if you care to. it is, in fact, going well ;p1/2.....
..........2/2>>42291062as was said by the other anon it is difficult to feel confident in judging this, but you sound like you are doing alright. your resonance may be slightly low, and i think you might be a little nasal. not bad at all, though :)>>42291160perfect :) you remind me of Rainbow Dash whenever i hear you. you're really making me miss teaching...maybe someday>>42292329almost perfect; only slightly nasal at times. even the yelling is great lol :) brainworms.>>42294142i literally can't tell if this voice has already been posted and i don't know how to critique it ;-;>>42294325it does pass. you sound great even now lol. hard to critique a sick voice but i don't think you've got anything to worry about :)
https://voca.ro/16uq0GKMVxTM
>>42295540i believe it is just a matter of practice. my memory is poorer than that of any goldfish but i recall when i was really focused on voice-training years ago i eventually became so accustomed to it that it became my resting voice for a while. you've sort of just got to use it aaallllllllll the time. it's muscle-memory.
>>42295576https://voca.ro/1i8gxVSU3YM3>listening in, i can hear that i'm overly raspy. maybe need to drink more water
>>42295621time and ease are positively correlated, nona :) you will get there. i don't hear a rasp, personally, so much as nasality. working on relaxing your throat is a good general goal, so if you feel you're too constricted that might be something to start with. it will give you endurance, too.
>>42295718https://voca.ro/18ioXv93rNwelmaooooo i guessi cant hear it yet but plugging my nose i *REALY* use it a LOT!!!ahh. specifically the O's
https://voca.ro/15uVBowH4tIJ
>>42295490>i literally can't tell if this voice has already been posted and i don't know how to critique it ;-;IM BREAKING THE SYSTEM AAAA
>>42295974>im breaking the system>i hate engaging with othersokay
>>42296014girl calm down
https://voca.ro/1exmcbDdleVl
>>42295816nona this recording is adorable omfgyou will get it. promise :) don't be too hard on yourself and also remember you don't have to speak at such a high pitch!! that could be part of it. your voice sounds nice lower, too. it's important to find something comfortable because remember you're gonna be doing this forever.>>42295962i don't think you should go into this planning to sound like a certain type of woman; sound like you!!!! the problem you have now is with resonance. raise it a little bit and see how you feel :) i think your accent is cool, by the way....it should not be an impediment.>>42295974what does this mean..>>42296090try clocking out at 9 </3this is great, just a little nasal ;p although it sounds like you're affecting a bit so maybe your usual voice sounds different
>>42296128>the problem you have now is with resonance. raise it a little bit and see how you feel :)how
>>42296128https://voca.ro/119JCKSn30ai
>>42296204Just realized it's not like you could see me pinching my nose im so dum
>>42296158if you know how to manipulate your larynx, raise it, physically. if not, >>42286908 >>42286944 here :) swallow-and-hold i think is the easiest demonstration of the concept because it's kind of impossible to not raise your larynx that way. >>42296204ok wellllllllllll i am human and fallible. and plus also in my defense umm you were sort of doing a voice kind of. and a little bit. so.>>42296234very true!! clearly you are lying...
>>42296271I swear that's just what I sound like ToT and my nose was pinched istg
>>42296090cute>>42296204how does that work nona lmao. sounds good thoughhttps://voca.ro/1056uV41QPwoi am sick. do i sickpass
>>42296382Idk I just dont heavily rely on my nose to speak lol my voice is so high it basically comes from the back of my mouth if that makes sense
>>42296304i believe you i am joking i am joking>>42296382you certainly do not sound male at all so i suppose that means you pass :) i guess it's hard to say, though. it sounds like you are very breathy but idk if that is bc you are sick or if that is just how your voice is (in which case i would tell you to try giving your voice a little more resonance). in any case yes you do pass lol
>>42296496>(in which case i would tell you to try giving your voice a little more resonance).yeah i generally do think i struggle with consistent resonance so it's probably something i still need to work on anyway. it's hard for me to get where i want with my voice cutting out atm though. ty though nona :)
>>42296519you are allowed to rest!! work at your own pace :) if you're too sick you're too sick.
voicegen is the only good thing left on this board
>>42296796i'm personally also a big fan of /sig/ >>42162119...i do not often post there but the anon who runs it is a true saint.
>>42287484did anybody like my badly recalled rendition of Already Gone.......i know i was pretty pitchy but i was really proud of some of this....is it because i did not post it with a provocative and ostentatious image(for actually though would like genuine feedback and criticism please and thank you)
>>42296128https://voca.ro/1iB8reSIyAVT>>42296271DONT DO SWALLOW AND HOLD FOR LONG DURATIONS IT /////WILL///// CAUSE PERMANENT DAMAGE>>42296204okay but u didnt use n or mmm
>>42297473>DONT DO SWALLOW AND HOLD FOR LONG DURATIONS IT /////WILL///// CAUSE PERMANENT DAMAGEsee i knew that was the case which is why i didnt make another vocaroo
>>42297473you definitely are improving on the nasal front!! just work on finding a pitch that feels natural to you. it doesn't have to be particularly low or anything; i just meant that it did not need to be so high. it sounded a little like you were straining to reach the pitch you spoke at for the majority of this recording. but keep at it :) nasality is rough that is why like 99% of tranners have it to some degree lol>SWALLOW AND HOLD FOR LONG DURATIONS[...]/////WILL///// CAUSE PERMANENT DAMAGEreal? anyhow you only really need to do it once to understand the concept and then move on to figuring it out for actual.>>42297488see above nona....you can't give up before you even try :( big dog, small dog is also good. i know this stuff is difficult and embarrassing but you will never get whither you want to be without practice. i haven't got a whole lot of time before work but if you want i will try to talk you through it. i might just be a little slow to respond
>>42297663im feeling confused, im rewatching a resonance video and i think im doint my m's and ns right
https://voca.ro/1mojhDKYE6X1Anon here from last thread who people said sounded ftm pre transition, I am trying to avoid that kind of thing now. I think I was trying to add fullness by going lower or something.. I'm not sure.. I want to avoid sounding shrill and having too tinny of a register. Thank you for the feedback last thread. I might try a lower pitch Also I am curious what anons think about the question of accents I mention in the recording. Incase you don't listen but are curious, basically: if you come from an area like e.g. in my case the deep south, but you kind of cover up your accent, does that hurt your intuition around like gender cues or like affects / is it easier to pass in your native accent even if you cover it up normally? I don't really have an opinion on the question myself but I find it pretty interesting, because e.g. southern voices are not just changing the way they stress stuff but actually have v diff vocal characteristics e.g. heightened "nasality" or a brighter buzzier tone.
>>42297747well, i do not know what video you may be watching, and nb it is likely you actually know more about voice-training than i do, but /m/ and /n/ are both definitionally nasal consonants, which means that their sounds are produced by blocking the passage of air from the throat through the mouth and redirecting it up into the nose. i'm really not sure that it is possible to produce either sound without vibration in the nose. i would be very impressed if you could, lol. don't worry yourself about it, nona.>>42298176i will respond to you asap i have to clock in aaaaaagh
>>42298299i have been trying to fix it for hourrssss wahokay. so you're saying that my *other* sounds need to avoid the nasality, which i *know* i can do. thank
>>42297473>okay but u didnt use n or mmmokay but u didnt use n or mmm
>>42298575>>42297473https://voca.ro/137urOZREfneHoly shit I dropped the link like a DUMMYI really am a stupid chud already
>>42298586>>42298575you made me laugh with this thank you. i think its a testament to how voice training has changed my persistence that i worked on something impossible for hours but persisted
>>42298607https://voca.ro/1iKjp1njLw72
>>42295455>http://fit450.com/HTML/5BX_Intro.html>this is doable at home!!!!!!oh ty so much this seems helpful!>anyhow you sound great honestly :) it sounds like it could be a tad strained, like you are either pushing yourself too high or trying to speak quietly, but you have great resonance and you are remarkably non-nasal which is very lucky or very skilled of you. good job nona.>>42290923>passes but sounds very small and quiet>>42290117>u sound like ur straining to speakthanks and yeah, I think that's the main thing I have trouble with, not sounding so 'small', but to be honest I've always been a quiet speaker with my whole life everyone telling me I should speak up lmao, so it's hard to for me raise my volume while keeping the voice, but I really do need to try harder!
ok i lied i will probably not be posting at work we are running on a skeleton crew today :( sorry friendsmaybe when i get out or maybe tomorrow morning..
