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What books will help him regain his dog's respect?
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>>24960967
Well what is MAGA offering that appeals to millennials?
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>>24961228
Should have just made a proust or gide thread. Even a mishima one would have worked
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>>24960507
Any page-turner by pic related
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>>24961223
This is a fascinating situation
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>>24961223
Absolutely disgusting woman, that dog has more common sense than she does.
>my dog
It's clearly your husband's dog and thinks of itself that way, you poly freak.

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This book changed my life for the better
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>>24950994
>Men almost always orgasm during consenual sex. Women rarely do.
oh nonononono
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>>24950994
married people know. however, no one is married anymore and women never know if any sex they have is consensual
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>>24950554
Kek
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>>24950554
Was this supposed to be news...?
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>>24956342
>>24956452
When I was a teenager I more than once got dumped by a girl who then came back after a few weeks going "uhhhh... can we get back together" clearly having tried some strange dick inbetween and discovered where the actual average is. I always turned them down.

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If only I knew back when this was published how right he was
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>failed
Liberalism is literally the dominant ideology in the world, and it is what it is ruining the world.
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>>24961263
>just do things
Liberalism doesn’t want that. That’s the whole problem. They can’t even build houses in New York while China makes cities of 30 million people spring from the earth
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>>24961265
Even elite parasites don't believe in it anymore. Why do you think they are clamping down on free speech and other rights?
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>>24961291
Yes, I'm aware current American leaders are terrible and governance is ineffective. This is not because of liberalism. American culture and civic society since the City Upon a Hill speech, if not John Smith's tenure in Jamestown has been quite liberal. Current problems reforming municipal zoning are unrelated.
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>>24956128
>unliberal forces (putin, bolsonaro, Trump, Xi)
lol?

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ITT: bisexual /lit/
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>>24959919
Sebastian's attraction to Charles is shorter lived than the other way around. Charles falls out of love when he sees he's ugly now, but Sebastian falls out of love when he sees he can't care for Charles because Charles doesn't want to need him. Most of what Charles is in love with is his fantasy of the family, which is why Cordelia tells him off for judging her.
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The tragedy of homosexuality is that it is the process of hopeless striving to embody the ideal in the real. The tantalizing eros which the lovers burn with cannot be realized in the world of flesh, only its promise, and this becomes both the goad and the whip, forever enticing, forever punishing. Age, the material realities of homosexuality, the secret, unfulfilled needs and urges of men in relation women (in many more senses than the merely sexual) - all of these, as leaden weights, drag the lovers down to the body of this death, leaving only the image of eros rising into the blue air, beckoning, next time, a little more, a little farther-- and this is the manner in which they will be punished in the life to come, for it is not a punishment from another but a punishment they give themselves, they the ever-tragic species of man, the secret fraternity, the mystery-cult of the erotic dream.
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>>24960230
>le tragedy of life… forbidden fruit………. thoughsoeverbeit, that it may………………
>*cheats*
>*dumps his bf for a biohole*
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>>24959995
>>24959919
Charles was obsessed with Sebastian in their early days, but Sebastian hit twink death and he lost interest in him. But Sebastian was gay so he found some other dude and went to live in a monastery. That's how I remember it.
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>>24960285
IIRC they drifted apart because of Sebastian's rampant alcoholism more than him hitting twink death.

"Chanukah" edition

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/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQ
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Please limit excerpts to one post.
Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.
Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.
If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.
Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.
(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)

Simple guides on writing:

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>>24960839
>comma splice
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How do I learn to write like this? And I don't mean the quirky characters or the dry humor, I mean the plot.
I've read plenty of mystery novels, but I feel like I could never come up with something like this. There are so many layers to it.
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>>24960046
I've rewritten it.
I've shared with them and they're too lazy to read it.
I finished it almost a month ago and it sounds decent-ish. I'm still new to this whole writing thing.

Where do I post it online?
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>>24960957
whodunnits are the most intellectualized and formulaic genre. they're pure slop
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>>24961259
answer the fucking question, douchenozzle.

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/ourgirl/ is getting slandered by some clout chasing loser.

>The Second Story is a conservative media critique channel who hates everything modern. She's wrong. In this video I break down exactly how.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa1L-kE5lm8

What do you think?
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>>24960573
>criticize her for being wrong
>it's a case where she's obviously right
What did Anon mean by this?
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>>24960330
>NOTE: I can't find the article I read that explicitly stated that Twilight was originally fanfiction. It might have been, it might not have been.

how does one refute this logic?
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>>24961062
Fair play to her if you ask me
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lynch every single booktube/tok posting faggot
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>>24960330
>/ourgirl/
That isn’t a picture of Honor Levy tho.

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In Ride the Tiger and related writings, Evola treats Heidegger as a revealing but ultimately fatal symptom of modernity rather than as a genuine metaphysical thinker. He concedes Heidegger’s acuity in diagnosing the nihilistic condition of the modern West, including alienation, the loss of Being, and the collapse of meaning into historicity, but argues that Heidegger never escapes the very horizon he critiques. By reducing Being to a problem disclosed within Dasein’s finite, thrown existence, Heidegger, in Evola’s view, absolutizes contingency and temporality. The celebrated “return to Being” thus remains trapped within existential anxiety, authenticity, and historical destiny, none of which transcends the human condition. Evola reads Heidegger’s thought as a terminal philosophy, lucid in its negations and powerless in affirmation, capable only of describing the breakdown of metaphysics and not of reestablishing a superior principle. Heidegger’s rejection of traditional metaphysics therefore does not overcome it but merely abolishes it, leaving nothing in its place but a more refined nihilism.

Against this, Evola frames the traditional metaphysical perspective, shared in different idioms by Eastern doctrines and by thinkers like Guénon, as categorically superior. Tradition begins not from finitude or anxiety but from the unconditioned, an absolute and supra-individual principle that is known not discursively but through intellectual intuition and realization. From this standpoint, Heidegger’s insistence on historicity, becoming, and openness to Being is not profundity but regression, mistaking a late and dissolved consciousness for the measure of reality itself. Where Heidegger can only gesture toward a post-metaphysical event of Being that may or may not arrive, Tradition affirms a timeless order that can be actualized here and now by those capable of transcending the human condition. For Evola, this contrast is decisive. Heidegger’s philosophy marks the last sophisticated expression of Western decadence, whereas the traditional metaphysical view, Eastern and perennial, stands as an already complete refutation, demonstrating that Heidegger’s entire project operates on an inferior plane that has forgotten not merely God or Being but transcendence itself.
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>>24959925
Might as well say Evola lives on a different planet than Heidegger then.
This is a totally mute “rebuttal” and serves no purpose but make semites ad jeets feel good about their simple existence
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>>24960163
>While Heidegger interprets Greek metaphysics as prefiguring presence-oriented ontology, Plato explicitly situates the Good beyond Being
...how does that not confirm Heidegger's suspicion? That takes being as understood by presence. Again, that sounds not even agreeing with the ancients, and working by a meaning of "metaphysics" departing from what it was coined to mean.
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>>24961032
>...how does that not confirm Heidegger's suspicion? That takes being as understood by presence.

Heidegger’s claim that Plato inaugurates a metaphysics of presencing collapses once one attends carefully to Plato’s own explicit distinctions, above all the insistence that the Good is epekeina tēs ousias, beyond being and beyond essence, as stated in Republic VI 509b. To say that the Good is beyond being is not to posit a highest being that is maximally present, but to deny that the ultimate principle falls under the horizon of being as such, whether understood as presence, objectivity, or availability to thought. Plato consistently differentiates between that which is knowable as an object of dianoia or noēsis and that which is the condition of the intelligibility and being of such objects without itself becoming one more intelligible object. The Sun analogy, the Divided Line, and the Cave all emphasize asymmetry rather than continuity. The Good gives being and intelligibility without itself being reducible to what it gives. Heidegger’s reading quietly reintroduces what Plato explicitly excludes, namely that to be beyond being still means to be in a superlative mode of presence. This conflation ignores Plato’s own language of transcendence, excess, and causal priority, which is not a theory of supreme presence but a metaphysics of principiation that resists objectification.

The textual evidence across the dialogues reinforces this point. In the Parmenides, Plato deliberately dismantles any naïve conception of Forms as present entities that can be straightforwardly predicated or grasped. The aporetic critiques of the One show that ultimate principles cannot be thought under the same conditions as beings. In the Sophist, Plato carefully distinguishes being from presence by allowing non being to be thinkable without collapsing into nothingness, thereby rejecting the idea that intelligibility requires παρουσια in the sense Heidegger presupposes. In the Timaeus, the demiurgic intellect contemplates an intelligible paradigm that is explicitly not located in time, space, or appearing presence, while the Receptacle is introduced precisely to explain how appearing differs from intelligible being. Finally, the Seventh Letter stresses that the highest realities are not expressible as logoi or παρουσιαζόμενα at all, but are approached through a sudden illumination after long dialectical purification. These passages together show that Plato is acutely aware of the dangers of reifying principles as present entities and actively works against such an interpretation.
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>>24961232
Heidegger’s misunderstanding arises partly from his methodological decision to read the entire history of metaphysics through the lens of his own Seinsgeschichte, which predisposes him to locate an origin of the forgetfulness of Being in Plato regardless of the textual evidence. His selective emphasis on ousia while bracketing Plato’s apophatic and causal language leads to a flattening of Platonic transcendence into a proto scholastic ontology of presence. When this distorted reading entered mainstream twentieth century philosophy, it produced lasting confusion by encouraging scholars to treat Plato as the source of precisely the metaphysical naïveté he himself criticizes. The later Neoplatonists saw this with exceptional clarity. Plotinus insists that the One is neither being nor present, not even to itself, but the cause of presence and being. Proclus systematically distinguishes between participation and the unparticipated, making it impossible to construe the first principle as present in any Heideggerian sense. Christian Neoplatonists such as Dionysius the Areopagite radicalize the same insight by denying all names, including being, to the first principle. Far from betraying Plato, these thinkers are unpacking what is already implicit in his dialogues. Heidegger’s failure to recognize this continuity results not in a profound critique of Plato, but in the projection of his own problem of presence onto a metaphysics that was designed from the outset to escape it entirely.

Ultimately, once Plato is read on his own terms rather than as a prologue to modern ontology, Heidegger’s critique is revealed as a category mistake with wide philosophical fallout. Plato is not asking how beings are present to a representing subject, but how intelligibility, measure, and normativity are possible at all. The Good, precisely because it is beyond being, cannot be assimilated to any structure of παρουσια, whether temporal, cognitive, or phenomenological. By collapsing principiation into presence, Heidegger obscures the Platonic insight that what is most real is least objectifiable, and that genuine metaphysics culminates not in mastery or disclosure but in conversion of the soul toward what exceeds disclosure altogether. The uncritical adoption of Heidegger’s reading has therefore diverted generations of interpreters away from Plato’s own self understood project and from the Neoplatonic tradition that preserves its inner logic. A careful recovery of Plato’s metaphysics shows not the origin of the forgetfulness of being, but a rigorous attempt to think what grounds both being and its appearing without ever being reduced to either.
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>first thread where OP seems to actually understand Evola in like a year
>first Evola thread effortpost in like a year
>it's AI

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>age
>location
>current read
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>>24931414
21
Minnesota (second best place to read Russian literature)
Brothers Karamazov
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harry potter 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
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>>24931414
>suck hole
>grow big
>die young
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>34
>Finland
>In the Alastalo Parlor
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>>24956523
The first foundation book immediately opens on two men talking about who the fuck knows what and i immediately reshelved it
>autistic freak who died a virgin
Based.
>You don't have to read his blogpost to understand skepticism is gay
True

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Based
>Nietzsche
>Heidegger
>Holderlin
>Devi
>Serrano
>Yockey
>Cioran
>Eliade
>Alamariu
>Schuon
>Klages
>Dugin
>Spengler
>Moldbug

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>>24960808
Epicurus was just a negative hedonist.
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>>24960649
>objective
Spuk
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>objective
>nietzsche

stopped reading there.
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It's okay you'll come back to some of these when you get older.
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>>24960649
Care to elaborate? This should be good

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What books should I read in public to attract women?
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>>24953260
milking farm
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I hate when broads ask me what I'm reading because it's always boring to them. They want it to be "The Mystical Misadventures of Lonthrop Niggerman" and presumably they want me to then talk about how surfing in California for two years after my startup failed caused me to rethink my priorities in life and start a more successful startup so that I am now very wealthy and can buy them a hat. However more usually the answer is "It's a terrible book on the early modern revival of classical skeptical discourse on the criterion. I thought it would be better because the subject and title are great, but it's actually an artifact of '90s American graduate students thinking that they can skim the surface of something interesting while saying 'Lacan' a few times and it instantly makes it a monograph."

The least offensive answer I've been able to formalize when women ask me what I'm reading is "Oh haha it's boring philosophy stuff." Then they ask "Do you study philosophy?" and I say "Yes" and I can talk about something in general enough terms that they mistake it for California surfer wisdom and there's a nonzero chance they'll sit on my face. But I'd rather they not disturb my circles at all.
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>>24953426
well so enough she will become the subject of a dark smut herself with a muslim edward
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>>24955675
In the latin?
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>>24953260
Try reading Hogg or something similar.

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Was he right? What comes after the Faustian civilization?
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>>24961166
This is fair.
>>24961175
Didn't read the book award.
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>>24960889
> Do you want to talk about how that would work?
It was a semi-joke but in all seriousness this war will cement Russia’s status as a totally self-reliant great power who put Europe in its place, and culturally it will lead and has already led to Russians identifying as Europeans less and identifying more as their own unique civilization-state like China. As far as continuing to produce great novels this was probably more conducive to that than integrating into globohomo rainbow Neoliberalism would be.
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>>24960769
>the Franks, the Longobards, the Normans
as in brutal backwater savages sabotaging western europe? seems right
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>>24961186
I wouldn't say totally self reliant. Though having a measure of external security is definitely a boon for the Russian state.As for Russian Literature, maybe. Contemporary literature isn't exactly famous outside of Russia.
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>>24960691
Are you implying that the Faustian civilization is the end of the cycle?

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MMXXVI ℗ Check Em' (Doubles)
>>24961288 (OP)
or, The Whale-Tail; Obligatory /lit/ Thread;
Post-Shark Edition, Dead Horse Included!
Demonstrably Monstrous, Believe it (Surf n Turf)!
>https://lampbylit.com/magazine/
https://lampbylit.com/magazine/
>https://lampbylit.com/magazine/
https://lampbylit.com/magazine/

(WITH)IN THIS (MANIC) EPISODE:
>SIMPS FOR THE FURRYWAFFEN
>BOUNTY HUSTLERS FOR HIRE
>ROUGHSHOD MALEFACTOR
>FIVESHADOWING EVENT FOR THE MAYOR

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ONE OFF
PRESTIGE FORFEIT
THREAD CANCELLED
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>slop magazine filled with ai images and no text
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>>24961305
this one has some text back by popular demand
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ayy! A bit short on the contents again (this does allow me to actually read it all), but looking interesting and I will have a read through within the next days.

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>God does not exist.
Behold, the power of Cathlodox theology!
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>>24961246
>if God doesn’t exist like a physical object does then He doesnt exist at all
Your brain on atheist/prostestant logic

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This makes /lit/tards piss and shit their pants
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>>24961221


PLEASE, LEAVE, HIVEMIND AVTOMATON.
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>>24961221
>>24961224
>>24961225
kek
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>>24960712
Im riding the plane
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>>24960712
Depends on what frame of reference.
>relative to the plane, you are stationary
I'm in the plane (emphasizing structure)
>relative to the earth, you are moving quickly
I'm on the plane (emphasizing transportation)
The subtle difference is one implies movement, the other doesn't.
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>>24960712
on an plane, in an stewardess

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>If it can't be written in formal logic, it is not a philosophical position; it is not a proposition at all, and cannot be proved for or against empirically, or logically. It's just sophism.
the most retarded thing i've ever read on this board by a mile. stirner is the only philosophy related image i have btw
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>>24960345
>Philosophy is finished, reason reigns supreme.
What?
Anyways Anti-philosophy is always self refuting.
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philosophy is not logic
logic is not philosophy

You can use logic to argue your philosophy, but it is not your philosophy. Valuing logic is itself a philosophical stance.
In other words, it’s a fucking opinion.

You’d have to be sub-zero IQ level retarded to not automatically understand that.
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>>24959445
Of course the negation of a proposition is also a proposition. But according to the quoted post, is the positive statement a proposition?
Is the statement "philosophical positions must be written in formal logic" written in formal logic? You can use that statement in a logical derivation, but it doesn't follow from the axioms of formal logic and it can also not be tested empirically.
If all he meant was that it can be used in a formal derivation, then the quoted text would be saying almost nothing.
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>>24959847
people think thoughts imagination and thinking are a "tool" so we are in this LLM-AI problem not because AI itself but because people thoughts and retarded worldviews.
so this is only the beginning.
because they think everything is materialist and science is the real search for (holy grial) Truth. they are already believing human mind can and should be resumed studied and eventually used.
so because this is the basic thinking of modernity about the mind, this thinking is what give window to create a tool to use that tool (the mind) better, so LLM create not a singe problem for this kind of normie behavior, is completely harmonic and nice.
you have a tool in your head, (rememeber, your depression is chemical, your satisfacion and love too), so why dont use another tool to help maximize the tool you have in your head?, perhaps you are a sanctimonius redneck who believe in soul? (lmao with the emoji crying laughing) .
so this kind of depersonalization of the mind is completely schizophrenic even if they are so used to it they think is completely sane and nice.
now, IA will only fail with a resurgence of soul as a concept, something even luddites and anti-ai types cringe themselves to death just by thinking about it. but apart from retarded workers afraid to lose their jobs, the kind of anti AI sentiment have a yearning for soul. even if they dont know where to search, what to say, how fucking howl at the moon, so all their arguments fell the moment they said it because they really are materialists at heart and they are not really prepared to get out of that framework without a fear of missing out being part of the cool kids gang who invent rockets and internet. so even if they cant´ articulate the yearning for soul they know AI will never have it so even when they materialist view give birth to a monster to their very eyes they just can´t really criticize it. they just cant.
so the problem is that LLM´s is an unconscious proposition of the human mind and if it succeds as a model of the mind peasants in the future and future intellectals alike will think and will funnel human thinking through llm´s and their adjacent evolution.
this is a problem only if you think science have a limited view of human thought. if you dont think that im sure unconsciously you think ia will be limitless and the ultimate faith of humanity to follow and conquer the stars.
i think profundity of thought will be a completely (non-threatening) rarity once LLM´s become mainstream.
the future of human thought will have a violent and agessive cut.
the problem is that nobody think this is a cut because they think this is the correct way.


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