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Finally going to tackle Moby Dick soon. Just asking if there's any edition I should be aiming for? e.g if I should try get one with annotations, or just whatever cheapass penguin one.

Also general thread about editions and translations I guess?
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>>24674508
Qué ?
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>>24674587
Me refiero a la gente rara de Arch Linux (pingüino). Ya sabes, los que sin ironía publican la pasta de Stallman GNU/Linux y te dicen lo mucho mejor que es que Windows
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>>24674614
I'd like to interject
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>>24674461
Half real commentary, half shitpost. The biggest weakness is how much of it remains unannotated, maybe some day /lit/ will give it a second edition and fill the gaps
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>>24674292
Norton Critical. Most recent Oxford World's Classics printing is also good. Penguin is fine, but if you have the option to get one of the other two, do that instead

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What is this piece of crap? what kind of propaganda 1000 pages leaflet is this? it's not even interesting in the slightest.

I was honestly intrigued by a woman being such a fundamentalist but not eve this bitch has manage to interest me in the slightest.

I get all the objectivism she is trying to flight but the story? bland and inconsistent as fuck
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>>24672878
KEK
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>>24674312
Things that never happened for $500
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>>24669300
I like her prose style. It's weird and stilted and every line is laden with import crushing the characters lol.
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>>24669300
She's a very interesting author. Having read all her novels, I'll say the quality of her writing is inversely proportional to the amount of fame she had when she was writing it. We the Living is IMO her best work, but barely gets mentioned, while Atlas Shrugged, a 1200 page book about trains where the male lead in the story changes 3 times based on who Rand's self insert finds attractive, is considered her magnum opus.
>>24670016
I watched bits of it in an Adam Curtis documentary and it soured my perception of her. She sounded deranged.
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>>24674842
>1200 page book about trains

Ok I'll read it.

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Literatura en español - Edición Méjico.

¿Cuál creen que sea el mejor novelista mejicano? Y, ¿el mejor cuentista? ¿El mejor poeta?
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>>24666468
Porque mexicanos no tienen verdaderos metafisicos?
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>>24674552


QUÉ CARAJOS ES UN «METAFÍSICO»?
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>>24674552
Carlos Castaneda
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>>24674254
>>24674353
No se, los "expertos" en humanidades dejan mucho que desear.
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>>24674919
No leas las anotadas y compra la edición del puesto de periódicos entonces

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The hell did they talk about?
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>>24674719
You're imagining wrong because he invited those people round all the time and scared them with his chosen needle gauge for heroin
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>>24674727
would he have switched to fentanyl if he lived in these time?
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>>24674763
Afaik the massive needles were a stuck in my ways old man habit. Fentanyl existed back then too, it came out in the 50s.
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>>24674017
This is from chatgpt
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>>24674894
>fan boy'd
i don't see it, but i don't use bots. what makes you say it's a bot?

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What books should I read to learn cool facts about the Nazis? I'm not interested in sensationalism about how they're THE GREATEST EVIL TO EVER EXIST nor do i want /pol/slop that simply inverts the same retardation.
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>>24674570
You most certainly do not. Or do you think Golden dawn is relevant kek.
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>>24664028
Most of the unironic Jew hatred in the final panel should be arabs, Muslims, Pakistanis, Iranians, etc. Your meme isn't accurate.
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>>24664028
The top were Germans in the 1930s.

Bottom is Americans today.
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>>24674753
Americans are most Jew-loving Israel-bootlicking people on Earth.
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>>24674745
I'm a bit confused at the reference it's trying to make in the first place. Anyway, got any good book suggestions on topic?

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Are Descartes' and Spinoza's metaphysics still worth reading? It seems like they were turned obsolete by Leibniz and Kant
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>>24674877
Foundationally? Yes, but spinoza writes like a dick. Practically? Read the philosophy wiki and it'll be enough.
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>>24674877
>Descartes' metaphysics
Interesting defense of substance dualism, more robust than it first appears.
>Spinoza's metaphysics
Quick and dirty way to think about Spinoza is that he thought Descartes was on the right track but didn't go far enough -- as in if Descartes thought a little harder and wasn't so much of a Christcuck he would've written The Ethics. To your question though, yes, absolutely worth reading. Spinoza presents a strange, crystalline argument for substance monism that isn't quite like anything else in western philosophy. Even if you think he's wrong he's not his approach is utterly fascinating and his conclusions are deliciously strange but so well-argued that you can't dismiss them offhand, you have to actively refute them

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Has anyone here ever read this?
What’s it like?
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>>24673804
If you had read Dianetics, you'd know that many engrams disguise themselves, and even deny that they exist. Implants are pretty much defined as being hidden from your consciousness. Your "journal" idea is ineffective in locating any of them. You need an e-meter to do the job.
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>>24674163
lol
lmfao even
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I can't believe that after all these years we find out it's about thetans in a volcano, when the volcano was right there on the cover of the book the whole time.
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If your parents are scientologists are you born one?
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>>24674163
you make it sound like you're possessed that's not how the brain works, like at all.

>metaphysics cannot be a science concerning anything internally or externally experiential (a posteriori)
>let's just ignore that pure reason itself is being experienced as the phenomenon of thinking, reasoning and understanding, all of which are actively experienced by the host of the cognition
>and yes, this is the most essential element of my entire philosophy. a priori simply cannot be experiential even though the a priori thinker is experiencing thinking
why does anyone listen to this gayboy again?
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>>24673109
This. Read it once, it won't make sense, stop, read other philosophy, stop, come back to reading it again, all of a sudden it makes more sense, and so on, ad infinitum.
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>>24673109
Damn you’re right
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So does the metaphysical actually exist?
What are the arguments for?
What are the arguments against?
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>>24672971
>even though the a priori thinker is experiencing thinking
He's not, he IS thought, reason & understandment. You can't dissociate the a priori thinker from his act of understanding, which follows certain rules that Kant formalizes (hence a priori & transcendental).

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>>24673080
>>24673061
Can an anon fill me in on who these medieval transcendentalists are ?

>>24673068
>How do you reconcile this with his position on the Principle of Contradiction inhered in analytic/explicative judgment?
Judgements and thoughts aren't things in themselves. You can subjectively think certain things, and I other things, but the truth is exterior to them both (or at least to one).
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Pretty sure Schopenhaeur addresses your contention. Idealists are Kant dicksuckers so theyll tell you schop "misunderstands" because their headcanon is more validated but whatever

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I got some old paperback of this today, how is it?
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idk, im curious too because he mentions Schopenhauer and big philosophy peeps tend to love forgetting schop in favour of glazing Nietzsche and Hegel since more "significant" people came as a direct result of them, despite the ironic fact that Schopenhauer is the most significant person to Nietzsche ever and yet the way Nietzsche leftists talk about Nietzsche youd think Schopenhauer didnt exist.

What's the most controversial book you've actually read?
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>>24673577
read this word - quibble
>>24674563
type text in notepad printf to pdf screen snap into paint
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>turner diaries
you aren't impressing anyone faggot. grow up
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>>24674595
safe edgy
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>>24674824
better safe edgy than retard edgy
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>>24674871
XD

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I understand this might not be the place for political stances, but I’m a left leaning centrist and the current US administration has me panicked about the future of democracy. Whats a good book that I can read that explains the intricacies of the US constitution and how “failsafe” it really is?
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America and its greatest ally regularly break the Geneva convention. The constitution means absolutely nothing. Democracy is a scam. Democracy is what got Hitler in power. Become a communist
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>>24674887
there's no one single book, more a patchwork of norms, ideas, customs, and inclinations built up over decades, scattered across books on jurisprudence, the limits and powers of the executive, senate rules fuckery, and dry volumes on constitutional law

The short answer is that it's only as failsafe as people think it is. This feels like an unsatisfying bullshit response but that's genuinely the answer. System isn't really built for someone saying "fuck you, you can't stop me"

What you really want to read is this
>John Rawls -- A Theory of Justice
for the guiding ideas/theories behind the progressive wing of the Democratic Party, and
>Schmitt -- The Concept of the Political
for the guiding ideas/theories behind the Republican Party. I was about to type "the traditionalist wing" but there is no "wing" anymore, it's just the party. Schmitt's a fascinating figure because this book makes some piercing critiques of liberalism at the start/middle that are really interesting but Schmitt's solution is total retardation
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>>24674887
>Anatoly Golitysn, New Lies for Old

JFK met and believed him. Long range Soviet Strategy has and is being executed as we speak— what you are seeing is the fruit of strategic deception at a grand scale,"Our greatest secret weapon is taking the appearance of The Enemy from you." (Arbatov).

>Political Ponerology, Lobaczevsky

Polish psychologist, had to reconstruct the above from memory getting out of the USSR— 13% of the population is character defective, 2-3% of Psychos recruit them as their vanguard, half of the remainder are too stupid to notice or resist, and have social pathology susceptibilities versus these types as well.

>On Thermonuclear War, Herman Kahn

Fallout is a canard lasting days to weeks at most. Moscow & Beijing have all their eggs in the Missile Force basket— conventional forces' mediocrity is a feature, not a bug.

>Desperate Deception, Thomas Mahl
>Venona Files

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what are your thoughts on it? what is its worth, in your opinion?
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>>24670512
>the actual syntactic predicate is a copula between the first and the second half of the pāda
can you elaborate on this?
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>>24670512
If I eat your brain can I gain all this knowledge without having to spend the presumably 10+ years you spent on acquiring it?
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>>24672113
by "syntactic predicate" I just mean "main verb." Subjunctive verbs need to be attached (or subjoined) to a main verb, and in Sanskrit, there are a lot of situations where you can leave the verb "to be" out and just have it implied. ("Copula" is a fancy word for the verb "to be" btw)
It's in a lot of these pādas (lines) because they're strictly metrically structured. You often don't have room to fit the two or three syllables that would be necessary to include the copula

>>24672146
presumably yes but I need that to live. Also it took WAY less than 10 years, more like 2. Learning linguistics (especially as an enjoyer of literature) is really eye opening and worth it, even if you're not autistic enough to spend all your free time translating abstruse religious texts
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>>24667006
Is the English word "devil" cognate with deva?
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>>24673661
right, i just don't understand how the copula can be incorporated into that sentence in particular, or i guess how it can support a subjunctive in general.

>>24674671
nta but no it's not, i think deva is cognate with "divine", "deity", etc. though. but this did get me to look up the actual etymology for "devil", which is kinda interesting. it seems to come from the same metaphorical thought that gives us the expression of "throwing someone under the bus".

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100 pages in and completely bored, does it get better?
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>>24674695
makes sense, the writing feels so flat and devoid of personality. i can see how that could be the fault of the translation. feeling like stopping might be the move, ive got don quixote and anna karenina on my shelf and feel like either of those are more worth my long book stamina
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>>24674698
have you ever heard of moral ocd? you might have that.
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>>24674723
Just because I don't like to read vulgarities on every second page I have OCD?
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>>24674716
It could theoretically make sense for Part 1 where the narration follows a young and inexperienced poet. You know, like in the Benjy/Jason chapters of the Sound and the Fury. But part 2 is narrated by like 20 different people, and apparently each one of them feels different to read in Spanish with different dialects and all. In English, all of them feel more or less the same.
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>>24674730
not inherently because you don't want to read the books, but because with mention of bolaño here hypervigilantly spamming with screenshots of you ctrl-fing 'vulgarities' as though that's something anyone should care about. that's not normal behavior.

moral ocd means that you hyperfixate on things being morally good or bad and have intrusive thoughts and guilt and compulsive behaviors related to that. singling out books for using swear words and loudly announcing to the world how tainted and horrible and reprehensible that is when nobody asked seems to fall into that category. im saying this out of love.

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Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

>Previous:
>>24659332

>Thread Question:
Do you own any special editions of books? Which are your favourites and what would get you to purchase one?
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>>24674688
Not SFF but The War at the End of the World by Mario Vargas Llosa
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>>24674779
I've got six books in one format and you're telling me I can't have the seventh in the same? Yet another reason to hate Ruocchio and his shenanigans
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Fantasy books for this feeling?
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>>24674873
Malazan
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>>24674873
The Dragon Waiting by John M. Ford.

Post photo, receive book rec
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>>24673871
>petroleum straws
actually straws are paper now (caused by woke)
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>>24673728
negative space
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>>24673881
Literally noone celebrates this
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>>24673850
Houston Stewart Chamberlain-Foundations of the Nineteenth Century

>>24674149
Boethius- Consolation of Philosophy


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