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Someone redpill me on this bitch. Is she just bad, or do her books have any literary merit whatsoever?
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>>24700901
The future cheerleaders were just masturbating to the guys in One Direction, it was the nerdy girls writing fanfic about being their sex slaves where they’re also vampires.
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>>24700977
>"Second Fiddle In Boy Band Castrated And Turned Into Sex Pet By Cruel Fan" fanfiction
is basically whacking it to One Direction but sure, now you're talking about a point where the sorting has already happened and the nerd girl knows she's a nerd, etc.
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>>24701000
That point of sorting usually happens before puberty or early into it.
> is basically whacking it to One Direction but sure
Sure but there’s whacking it to 1D and then there’s whacking it to being Count Harry Stylesula’s sex slave
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>>24701018
>Sure but there’s whacking it to 1D and then there’s whacking it to being Count Harry Stylesula’s sex slave
kek
No disagreement on that point.
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>>24699305
Every time!

He wrote "Reflections of a Russian Statesman", which is essentially an apology for Russian Imperialism, written for the citizens of the British Empire (He says that he wanted them to read it, but he didn't translate it into English because lolrussia). He was the steel-handed statesman behind the iron-fisted unshakeable autocracy of late 19th and early 20th century Russia. Him losing power is, ultimately, why the Communists succeeded. He only lost power because he got so old he physically couldn't keep running the country.

His ideology is a novel combination of Tolkien and Daoism. He believed that order and morality were ordained by Yahweh at Creation in an almost physical sense. Order was a physical, material thing, and once physically, materially, degraded, it could not be repaired by man. An incredibly powerful, rigid, state and clergy (that worked for the state) was necessary to arrest the decay of the world until Yeshua came back and fixed everything. The Russian state was justified in doing whatever the fuck it wanted, from enslaving the Russian populace to employing Muslims to genocide dissident Christian ethnic groups, in the name of preventing the further decay of the world (Russia was the last place on Earth that hadn't abandoned Yahweh's religion, and you physically could not be a Christian if you were not a subject of the Russian state).

At the same time, he has a sort of Daoist view on politics, in that his autocratic police-state is relatively hands-off, bordering on laissez faire (he was a supporter of child-labor 1) out of the belief that the "Invisible Hand" of the free market is literally Yahweh setting the proper prices of goods and service and 2) it was very costly to send your children to public school because parents literally had to pay the state for the service of education). Furthermore, he was a firm supporter of what I would call "Romanovism"; the Romanov dynasty was chosen by the Russian boyars (the nobles) after the then-Czar died without heir because the Romanov dynasty's founder was completely worthless and easily manipulatable (as were literally all of the Romanovs with like three exceptions). In essence, this is the Christian re-tooling of the Daoist idea of the "empty throne sovereign", where the King is literally just a puppet for a powerful grise-eminence to rule in his name (the ideal would be the throne being literally empty of an actual human, but the dumbfuck peasants would never see the genius in this, so a real person is needed). At the same time, he was very critical of the power of the Boyars, leading to a sort of Taoist anarcho-monarchism, with (ideally) most of the country being slaves to the state living in extended family villages under the authority of a small yet powerful pater familias.
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>>24700055
Sounds schizo to be honest. Interesting though
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>>24700055
haven't read his book but I've seen it being published by Imperium Press this year, hopefully they'll also publish a copy of Leontiev's Byzantinism and Slavdom

https://www.imperiumpress.org/shop/reflections-of-a-russian-statesman/
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>>24700091
he makes de Maistre sound like a liberal
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>>24700055
>picks a "completely worthless" monarch to manipulate and do whatever the fuck you want
>his heir turns out to be such a shrewd fuck that he enslaves your heirs to the point they are just glorified bureaucrats for all time
Epic one from the Russia nobility.
At least after the Germans elected Rudolf I to the throne the princes of the empire retained semi-independent status until Napoleon dissolved the whole thing.
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>>24700055
>British author Arnold White, interested in Jewish agricultural colonisation in Argentina, visited Pobedonostsev with credentials from Baron de Hirsch; Pobedonostsev said to him: "The characteristics of the Jewish race are parasitic; for their sustenance they require the presence of another race as "host" although they remain aloof and self-contained. Take them from the living organism, put them on a rock, and they die. They cannot cultivate the soil."[13] He was also by 1894 credited (dubiously)[14] with illustrating the goal of his anti-Jewish measures as making "a third of Jews die out, a third move out, and a third dissolve tracelessly into the surrounding population" (Russian: "Oднa тpeть вымpeт, oднa выceлитcя, oднa тpeть бeccлeднo pacтвopитcя в oкpyжaющeм нaceлeнии").
why were late pre-revolutionary russians like this...>>24700055

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Did he kill himself out of boredom?
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>>24697347
>God shaped hole
He was a Mennonite and not at all agnostic. His views on religion and his belief is all over his writing. Lane Dean Jr is everything he saw wrong with faith, it is not those who do not believe but those that mistake belief for an identity and Lane Dean Jr does and as most of the 4chan larpers do.
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He has an oddly gay voice and mannerisms for a straight man.
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>>24699502
He's not gay he's just white
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>>24689921
>>24690642
>>24692106

>cringe loop
Wtf is this?

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How valid are Vilar's arguments in an age when women are outperforming and outearning men?
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>>24700360
>>24700365
>feminist swaddle
Rape should straight up be legal
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>>24697222
Is this just "BlackPill : The book" or are there actually good advices to escape modern dating hell in there?
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>>24700079
>>24700321
If it's a redpill, not a black one, what is the way out?

If all men are servile and you're not, won't they just look elsewhere?

I personnally simply said "fuck off" and am focusing on the better stuff for now. I get way more looks from other women this way somehow, although I'm objectively uglier according to what my age group sees as good-looking.
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>>24701101
You might want to read the censored Feynmann chapter about women called

>you just ask them

>>24701101
Isn't a blackpill just redpill + being depressed about it?

>what is the way out?

In what way are you trapped?
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>>24701160
>In what way are you trapped?
If the sexual revolution made dating trash for men, is there a way to date that doesn't suck for men?

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I wasn't expecting this book to be so fucking funny. The first half wasn't anything out of the ordinary for a realist novel, but the second half, once Emma starts her affairs, is non stop genius comedic situations after another.

The clubfoot guy. Rodolphe writing the letter. The theater. The punchline at the climax with Emma hearing the blind guy. Good lord. So good.

Probably the funniest book I've ever read.

Discuss.
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>>24701028
To be honest, Leon was particularly pathetic. Even in his Rouen phase. He seemed to be faking whatever confidence he had, and to me it seemed Emma became disillusioned with Leon herself whilst Rodolphe straight up dumped her.
That beta didn't deserve such a goddess
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>>24701003
He's also a quack pharmacist who thinks himself a doctor (Flaubert's father was an important and respected doctor) and forms part of the growing Bourgeoisie that Flaubert disliked, the kind that don't care for art and are more into it for entertainment. He's mocking the middle class of the July Monarchy and the Second Empire.

He's the sort that quotes Shakespeare without knowing it's Shakespeare, because he read the quote in the newspaper. He's the new sort of man that puts science, even when he doesn't understand it or bother to learn it, above everything else.
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>>24701049
Unrelated by my favorite scene ever in literature is the Rouen Cathedral walk between Emma and Leon, and the following carriage action. It's Flaubert writing sacrilege for fun. No wonder the novel was censored
Absolute /lit/ kino.
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>>24701057
>and the following carriage action
I didn't like Leon, but I must admit that section gave me a hard on.
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>>24701019
>Made me dislike him
Dislike the husband? Yes. What a cuck.

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This is one of the funniest books I’ve ever read.
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>>24699635
the part where the narrator describes what I believe to be Oblomovs childhood home is very very boring.
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>>24699765
Does he explain why he ends up inactive?
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>>24701209
His origin story, carefully implented into the story, tells how he got a job after finishing his studies. He quit after sending a letter to the wrong address. From then on, he stayed lying on his couch smoking pipe in a fine ass cloth like a perma-neet because no other of the many ideas wich came into his powerful mind seemed like a better option. Even simple things like reading a book gradually became too exhausting.
"Outwardly, I look like I'm doing nothing", he says to his manservant, "but inwardly I am thinking HARD on how to improve this country."
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>>24701105
It’s pretty funny, reminded me of Hobbits except presented as unappealing
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>>24698098
Most books have no soul so 4chan stops to question wtf is the plot of the book slop and why are there so many failed authors sadly card carrying communists have infiltrated the democratic party and pose as librarians and the education filament so now we have actual ghost writers writing in a office cubicle in south east Asia as DFW bizarrely predicted.

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>>24701195
They're fiction.
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>>24701182
Self help is all slop for the cattle tho, at least stories are fun
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Do you guys ever read books or do you just watch videos by guys who do?
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The Scripture is the ultimate.

Not a fan of Dune as an actual Muslim.

It reads like a war room novel by a CIA agent.

Lawrence of Arabia was also an agent of zionist imperialism.

In general, the West romanticizes the martial aspect of Islam.

The West seriously overlooks the inner spiritual nature of real Islam.

Islam is about submission to God. A personal, spiritual relationship with God.

The Western view of Islam is informed by centuries of conflict between empires.

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>>24701210
It's superior to everything, take the lesbian orgy-pill

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>[T]he relation of the Elohist to the truth of his story still remains a far more passionate and definite one than is Homer’s relation. The Biblical narrator was obliged to write exactly what his belief in the truth of the tradition (or, from the rationalistic standpoint, his interest in the truth of it) demanded of him—in either case, his freedom in creative or representative imagination was severely limited; his activity was perforce reduced to composing an effective version of the pious tradition. What he produced, then, was not primarily oriented toward “realism” (if he succeeded in being realistic, it was merely a means, not an end); it was oriented toward truth. Woe to the man who did not believe it! One can perfectly well entertain historical doubts on the subject of the Trojan War or of Odysseus’ wanderings, and still, when reading Homer, feel precisely the effects he sought to produce; but without believing in Abraham’s sacrifice, it is impossible to put the narrative of it to the use for which it was written. Indeed, we must go even further. The Bible’s claim to truth is not only far more urgent than Homer’s, it is tyrannical—it excludes all other claims. The world of the Scripture stories is not satisfied with claiming to be a historically true reality—it insists that it is the only real world, is destined for autocracy. All other scenes, issues, and ordinances have no right to appear independently of it, and it is promised that all of them, the history of all mankind, will be given their due place within its frame, will be subordinated to it. The Scripture stories do not, like Homer’s, court our favor, they do not flatter us that they may please us and enchant us—they seek to subject us, and if we refuse to be subjected we are rebels.
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>>24700904
There is no reason to believe that whatsoever. If the truth was any concern to him, as it was to, say, Livy, he would have added his own commentary that, “I cannot verify this, but it’s all we have so I include it without comment,” etc. That the scholars added no commentary on way or the other shows they were cleanly disinterested in truth, it was not a value that was relevant to them. They were concerned mainly with Jewishness and collating writings about Jewishness. They might have asked themselves “is this true, you reckon?” Or they might have thought, “so…this is the truth” or “this can’t be true”, but probably they didn’t think that much. They thought “is this Jewish, do you reckon?” “so…this is the Jewish” “this can’t be Jewish”

They put mutually contrary accounts side-by-side with comment and were probably more concerned with keeping the right chronological order than truth
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>>24700857
You're conflating the tradition, which attributes mosaic authorship to the Torah, with the redactor of the Torah itself, which does not (at least, not for Genesis). But your perspective is what he terms "rationalistic" in that passage, i.e., that the authors of the biblical stories were serving their own interests rather than transmitting their own beliefs. But his point is basically that, whatever you think of the author, the effectiveness of the story upon the reader is entirely dependent on whether the reader accepts the story as true. This bears out in the story's foundational relationship with religious and legal precepts, its time scale (from creation to the eschaton), its intolerance, its omission of details that the reader must use his imagination to infer, its relative lack of harmonization of its sources.
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>>24700966
If Moses didn’t write it then he must have known he didn’t and that the writers who did were certainly not witnesses

Passages in the Bible are often at odds and the general explanation has to do with whether a passage was written by the priests, or the nobility

There is no unified author for the Bible. Homer at the very least unified the material of others and made it stylistically consistent and unified, and wove it into his own story. But the Bible is a collection of different authors with clearly different styles and concerns

Most of the Bible’s effectiveness lies in the characters themselves since it is very character-driven. The laws are mostly interesting for historical or legal studies since even Christians and most non Orthodox Jews do not give two shits about actually practicing them

The Qur’an is closer to a book that depends heavily upon it saying something true to be of value, at least in translation, since it doesn’t really have any character studies and its literary power depends heavily on how it makes use of Arabic in meter and rhyme
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>>24700932
Truth in context of the book is how we relate to a representation of reality, not reality itself, hence the sub title. He is exploring how we engage with literature and how literature influences our perception of reality.
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>>24700932
>If the truth was any concern to him, as it was to, say, Livy, he would have added his own commentary that, “I cannot verify this, but it’s all we have so I include it without comment,” etc.
You realize there have always been commentaries on biblical writings since antiquity, right?

>They put mutually contrary accounts side-by-side with comment
Maybe you just think they are. I would note that no examples of this supposed contradiction have been given. These suppositions been spoken about and alluded to much, but in all the attempts to bring a single example, in my experience, nothing concrete has ever materialized. In my experience, it can all be shown to have not been a true contradiction in the first place. Perhaps you do not like the fact that I am unwilling to assume what you seem to assume without evidence.

A lot of times people will mistakenly call something a contradiction due to lack of reading comprehension, not paying attention to details, or even simply an unstated, and often assumed predisposition to reject the account as a whole, before having even really considered it in the first place. In my investigations, that's what I find to be the best explanation of attempts to actually substantiate claims that there is a contradiction somewhere in the Bible. Trying to substantiate it would seem to be a misguided endeavor.

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Are there any books about dynasties and succession to thrones? Books heavily focused on plot, with involvement of other dynasties as well.
I'm not sure what the exact term is.
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>>24698612
Either would be fine
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>>24699480
Try the accursed kings series
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>>24697781
>>24699377
>>24699691
I'll check those out.
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>>24697774
There's a Thomas Mann one where the heir becomes King and revitalizes the whole kingdom that had been crumbling. Really uplifting story
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>>24699691
Seconding these. They're quite fun historical novels about royals.

The guys who wanted to make the Houellebecq porn just dropped one of the most interesting discussions on art that I've listened to in the last years.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTndTJEZer4&t=7657s
Part of the video goes on to talk about their manifesto, which you can find here:
>https://www.keepingitrealartcritics.com/wordpress/ennobling-portraiture/
Overall, many debatable ideas, but many things relevant also for this board insofar as we talk about literature as art. These seem to me to be more or less like the only people trying to go beyond the woke/nazi duality of 2016, which, as you may have noticed, has grown very stale in the last years.
What lies beyond empty culture wars? What form does power have today and how does it interact with art? And what purpuse does art serve in a world where institutions are crumbling and people with means are not interested in it?
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>>24699574
>I'm a 19th century artist
>spergs out on an imageboard
if you're going to larp as an aristocrat you need to act like an aristocrat
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Nothing lies beyond it. The "culture war" in itself is just both sides entertaining themselves, especially the right who like this guy rightly points out just want to live in a nostalgic fantasy about cathedrals and roman busts and RETVRNING TO TRVDITION or whatever. Mark Fisher wrote about how cultural artifacts from the past keep echoing over and over again in the present forever and nothing new can be created anymore, and that is true for everything. Theres nothing beyond this, just more of the same consumerism and emptiness while we all pretend we can come up with something new that is actually different and matters.
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>>24700880
A bunch of their movies are literally just porn.
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>>24699843
It was all a scam. It was never going to be released anyway
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>>24700999
>The "culture war" in itself is just both sides entertaining themselves
Most cultural war cranks, like Crowder or Shapiro or Rufo or Matt Walsh, would die if they didn't have the Left to oppose and give themselves meaning ... but then again, what would God be without nothingness?

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Can an 110 IQ write a great novel? Is an unremarkable intellect capable of literary greatness?
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>>24695833
Who the fuck are you? Lol.
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>>24695820
I know this is said about him, but I have a hard time believing anyone with a sub 120 IQ could have written Seymour an Introduction. He either had a verbal IQ comparable to a much smarter person, or he got anxious during the test and fumbled it or something.
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>>24696636
I don't know about America, but in my country the college admission exam is 100% a covert IQ test, specially the verbal section. I could see someone with raw talent doing badly if they aren't used to reading long texts though. But in my personal experience, having attended the best college in my country, there was a direct correlation between intelligence and your admission score. Those who got accepted on affirmative action were with no exception at the bottom of every class no matter how much effort the school put on getting them on equal footing.
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>>24698888
>managing to contribute to real science

he contributed something?
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>>24700800
This fag's never heard of "practicing"

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Any anons in Vancouver hit up the library book sale downtown today? It's on until this Sunday, and the pickings are quite good.

Favourite finds:

Hal Morgan - Symbols of America
The Apex Treasury of Underground Comics
Bernard Leach - A Potter in Japan
The Penguin Anthology of Imagist Poetry
The Grove Press Anthology of Chinese Literature vols. 1&2
Stan Brakhage - Film Biographies

Total cost: $100 CAD (≈$70 USD)
U jelly? Rate my stack.
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>>24699535
pleb/10 but I will give you props for the collected Donne
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>>24699535
>db super
Toriyama is rolling in his urn.
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>>24698858
>it had brownish yellow spotting along the edges which could be either curry or faeces
MR SIR THAT IS CALL ""FOXING"" IT HAVE NO TO DO WITH PREVIOUS OWNER
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Today's /stack/.
Pickings are getting slim, but I managed to grab a few gems. Missed out on the Kurtzman, and I left a really nice hardback edition of The Moon & Sixpence with colour illustrations of Gauguin because the buckram was stained and the spine was a little wobbly. Oh well.

Favourite finds:
John Waters' Shock Value
A Pictorial History of Israel

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They are like French, you hear a lot about them but their literary production is basically non existing once you start digging.

>inb4 reeeee you angloids lack of good literature
Our works may be McDonald's tier shit but at least we have a literary legacy.
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>>24696736
you can't expect people to go and copy over a single symbol or add a new keyboard in another language to their operating systems just to write one ö (I got that one from your post). If they're phone posting then sure, but honestly who gives a shit.
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>>24699748
If this were real life, I'd give you a high five :D
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>>24699552
austrians were german up until 1871
then they magically stopped being german
that makes a lot of sense
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>Literary production is basically non-existent
You are retarded
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I think we have a lot of good german writers, but the pool is small in comparsion to english writers, so the works just never get translated and make it out of the german speech region in europe.
Also, a lot of english works get translated and released here, which pales the release of new german works easily, about 4:1 if we consider native language speaker populations.

Have you ever seen a cute girl reading an actually good book in public?
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>>24700975
>Denying yourself life's simplest pleasures due to insecurity
Not at all. It's legitimately a fact that people who read in public are nine times out of ten posting it somewhere for validation. It's inherently performative. Read at home, in a comfy chair, with a cup of tea, preferably away from niggers.
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yes, my diary (male)
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>>24701128
whoa
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>>24701185
>I'm NOT insecure
>I'm just constantly thinking about what other people think of me
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Cute yes, but reading slop.

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Hey, Kant enthusiasts. Are you just reading the three critiques or are you also going to read his earlier work?
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>>24700569
>Cunt enthusiasts
lol
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>>24700569
Stop running my board bitch
Nobody read cunt
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>>24700569
I also read some of his early work. good shit.


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