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I'm at a point in my life where I think I have a pretty good idea of what most people are like if I spend enough time with them, even if they aren't open about it. Except rich people, especially rich women. They're completely opaque, I can never know what they truly think or whether they really believe what they're saying. There's some non-rich people who also do that to me, but *all* rich people do it. It's like being unreadable is the essential skill to get there.
I also recently heard of the "novel of manners" genre, is there something like that for the modern west?
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>>25180706
lol kid modern rich people dont have manners, they have circumstances and access

perhaps in the past manners mattered. unless youre dealing with serious wealth and somebody who managed to not become a complete asshole.

but yeah, real money can do your whole life's achievements in an afternoon. cant really go around saying that, unless its to the bros at the club
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>>25180712
*not if you aren't educated.

Luckily yiu are on /lit/ so you mustvenjoy reading. Not sure how far behind you are. If very far behind start learning about critical thinking and learning comprehesion skills. If you are at a normal baseline pick a few greek philosophers and progress into more and more modern thinkers.
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>>25180758
I'm educated in the technical skills sense but not in the society sense. At all.
>If you are at a normal baseline pick a few greek philosophers and progress into more and more modern thinkers
This is what I imagined based on >>25180712. I hope it's the actual answer. Thanks anons.
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>>25180706
You just grew poor. You have representations and cliches that help you understand the world but you haven't built one for this part of reality yet. They're just as idiotic as the rest of them
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>>25180932
dont tell me a millionaire is rich to you

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>1 books completed
>3 books behind schedule
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>>25179300
sure thing kat williams
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>>25179300
>>25179308
>>25179351
You read for enjoyment, for learning new (for you) ideas and concepts and to be able to understand fully more complex and/or historically formed from previous sources ideas and concepts, which in addition to better understanding of world, man, logic and other various entities and their structures also leads to more enjoyment of better quality and better variety of it.
So reading certain books you don't like, that nevertheless are the foundation of some books, concepts and ideas, that came later, if only as a thing refuted by those newcomers, is important to properly understand this newcomers in the first place.
Which is precisely why "start with greeks" is a good advice even when it is parroted mindlessly.
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>>25180499
>Which is precisely why "start with greeks" is a good advice even when it is parroted mindlessly.
Some of the earliest greek philosophy is just obvious if you grew up somewhat educated but didnt read a ton of philosophy. I always feel like i need a more abridged list of books when reading greeks so i dont read redundant shit.
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>>25180190
this is a literature board and you haven't read a single work
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>>25180764
wdym? he read hyperion

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You have eyes but failed to see Mount Tai! Edition

Stubbed >>25172742

>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.

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>>25180925
Retárd
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>>25180928
homo
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>>25180915
It's not. It's in indented.
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5/5

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What could be finer?

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Are you part of any literature groups? Book clubs, writer guilds, author-orgy-groups, etc.?

If so, do you like them?

If not, do you wish you were?
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>>25178214
>Bars count, I suppose.
Would not go to stand-up comedy, but would go to see a cute girl lead stuff aloud (and enjoy a beer at the same time).
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>>25173916
I once joined some local book club on discord but the the discussion there was very cringe so I didn't participate much.
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I'm part of two writer's groups.

One is super cool and chill, and has one professional author. It's a small group. But there's some really awful writers sharing their novels and I'm tired of reading them. Recently some autistic girl who overshares has been trying to get her book critiqued but she doesn't read anyone else's stuff. She gives fake critique, says nothing specific, and just parrots whatever someone else said. When she doesn't just openly admit she "didn't have time" to read it.

The other group is larger and worse. There are two guys I like. They write good stuff. There's also a professional author in this group, but she's an SJW who thinks rape jokes are off limit. None of them understand what prose is. They just talk about trigger warnings. And half of them never say anything. Sometimes I've gotten my story returned, where they printed it out and wrote nothing on it.

Last year some girl wrote some really heinous Chuck Palahanuik torture porn type shit, with rape, vivisection, domestic abuse, pedophilia, bind break, etc. Really dark shit, but it was a good story. This gets a pass from everyone. But if you make a joke about roofying a girl-- oh boy, no, no, no, that triggers me.
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>>25180552
>They just talk about trigger warnings.
>Sometimes I've gotten my story returned, where they printed it out and wrote nothing on it.
they are just fishing for a high value idea that will be their golden ticket to a position of power
once they get it, they will forward it to a committee (most probably linked to China because there is nobody else left, the Democratic party has other priorities...), that will refine it and get one of their stooges to write (or at least will try to write, as they basically shot themselves in the foot with hyper-nepotism) a top-selling novel out of it

it's how writing science fiction worked in the Soviet Union e.g. Stanislaw Lem

it's obvious that they can't do anything with "politically incorrect" stuff... actually it reminds me of Kurt Vonnegut who got a letter from a young writer-wannabe who did not know what to write about, and he threw him like three dozen GREAT ideas (as judged by me, they all sounded incredible... much better than Vonnegut's novels in fact lol) and said that he had thousands
no, I could not find said list, I saw it in a documentary about the dude, and they read out only a few / showed the first page of the letter

yes you may use my "idea" about the chicom harvesting authors, if you want to, I don't mind
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>>25180574
Weak

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Which hero from the three Greco-Roman epics is /lit/'s favorite? Picture of X-fags missing the point of the Iliad attached for entertainment purposes.
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>>25179066
>Achilles is a force of nature
True. But please, men, find yourselves other heroes to imitate and relate to because I don't want to keep being forced into bisexual scenarios to accommodate you.

Only some of you will understand this lol
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>>25180597
I blame the hand women keep forcing in Achilles' life against his consent.

Somehow because Achilles' loves men, women feel they have a kinship and can self-insert into his story??? I dont know the reason really.

If women want to make a female version of Achilles a la Skyros, which then prompted the creation of plays in which women would act in his role then they would do better choosing a hero that even wants association to females in the first place so that kind of shit stain doesn't linger around my life.

Good fucking lord Im sick of women and their sexuality. Such bad feelings all around.

Youd understand if you were being sexually harassed by men.
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>>25178878
Achilles is not meant to be an emulatable ideal hero. He is basically a god-king trapped in mortal form because Zeus subverted the succession prophecy.

>>25178905
>>25179245
Bizarrely he's the only one who goes to Elysium according to Homer. Is this some sort of compensation for fucking up his marriage? Who knows.
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>>25179245
I dont remember the last part. He fights pretty actively in the war.
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>>25178878
Hector obv

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Clark Ashton Smith edition
Notable Authors: H.P. Lovecraft, Thomas Ligotti, Robert Aickman, Clive Barker, Edgar Allan Poe, Algernon Blackwood, Shirley Jackson, Stephen King, William Peter Blatty, Robert Bloch, Bram Stoker, Mary Shelley, Edogawa Rampo, Arthur Machen, Ambrose Bierce, M.R. James, Sheridan Le Fanu, Brian Evenson, William Hope Hodgson, Clark Ashton Smith, Frank Belknap Long, Ramsey Campbell, Caitlin R Kiernan, Laird Barron, Jack Ketchum, Richard Laymon, Brian Lumley, Stefan Grabinski, Peter Straub, and many many more

Discuss your favorite horror tales in both short and long form. What have you read lately? What do you want to read? What's a work of horror fiction or an author who you want to recommend?
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>>25178574
In paper?
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>>25178574
I know those are cheap, but honestly most of them are on Anna's Archive for free and that's where I get them from.
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>>25125217
discord
gg
/zfVbW8yZm
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>>25178574
>>25179034
>>25179937
Del Rey has a nice selection of Lovecraft-inspired weird fiction collections.
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>>25180502
Do they still publish those?

Monsters, Dragons, Beasts, Creatures, Horrors, and Miscellaneous Lifeforms Edition Version 2: Magical and/or Alien Boogaloo


FAQ:
>What is worldbuilding?
Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.
>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"
Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.
>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"
If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.
>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"
Yes, of course you can!
>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"
Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.


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How do uranium or thorium reserves come into existence? Is it due to seismic activity?
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>>25180591
No I think they're directly generated by stars or decay of other elements, I might be wrong though. Many isotopes are super long lived which is why they're still around in the crust. I might be misremembering, don't take my word for it.

>>25130237
My setting is in a weird place between post apocalyptic and cyberpunk: Vaguely like the setting of Gibson's "Peripherals" but with ASI (that came and went) instead of cross parallel universe internet. What kind of psychological effects would growing up in a decaying, rapidly depopulating VERY high technology society have? I'm taking japan and some of the decaying rural towns in the US as inspiration but I can't think of many other parallels.
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>>25180672
*The Peripheral, not Peripherals
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What is Warhammer's aesthetic called?
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Heating Mars' poles to release stored carbon dioxide and putting up an artificial magnetosphere would be enough to make it habitable, right? Or am I missing something?

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Literarily speaking how did these books gain so much popularity among a certain type of white woman?
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You should read Clarke's Johnathan Strange and Mr Norrel, it's goddamned fantastic.
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>>25179561
because they're better written then whatever slop you read.
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>>25180053
yeah, most people don't even know schizoid even exists, including mental health professionals. honestly props to your therapist for figuring it out, but I don't know if recommending a book based on your disorder could be considered good practice.
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>>25180237
And what slop does OP read? Since you seem to know what it is, otherwise you wouldn’t have made such a comment.
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>>25179561
If these books were as popular among women as you'd like me to believe the world would be a better place

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how are they so powerful?
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>>25180882
Not in first person
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>>25180882
Infinite supply of extremely niche porn acted out by your favourite characters, for free.
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>>25180902
99% of its content is harry potter

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But if you think the writing is extremely amateur then are you implying you could do better? That you can actually write something that entertains a lot of people? Can you really, amateur?
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>>25180896
Andy is that you why are you so hellbent on defending this literal shit. It is ready player one tier bad. It’s amateurish, I guarantee you - a majority of English speaking high school graduates can write a better piece of fiction, certainly fucking dialogue than this. Surely you have to recognise that?
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>>25180897
lol jeet confirmed you don’t understand the English language properly that’s fine pack up the thread lads your punches are weak
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>>25180900
>>25180905
All I am hearing is just empty yapping. Thanks for proving my point. You can't write anything better. Weaklings.
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>>25180896
>Give me examples.
You lazy cunt. Just go into the threads that are up.
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>>25180913
I'd choke the air out of you like chauvin did to Floyd for acting this uppity.

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I want to write a 98 page schizo manifesto, but I'm not a lunatic.
Life really is hard.
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most schizo manifestos you actually end up reading are larps
you are just a midwit it seems
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>>25179095
discord
gg
/zfVbW8yZm
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>>25179095
De Sade wrote on toilet paper.
insanity is a difference of character not of drug addicted lunacy
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>>25179095
>98 page
5 is enough, dont forget
* women are incorrigible whores. Bible says women can be saved by childbirth which is rare and entirely by choice
* israelis and jewish leaders in america have gone so far as to make antisemitism the default position
* Christian clergy dont exist because it is mandatory for clergy to be married and marriage is illegal
* epstein didnt kill himself, charlie kirk wasnt shot with a .30 caliber bullet, the three towers were rigged with explosives
* forget being a schizo, the above average man has nothing to live for, he only has surrogate activities and can watch tv all day like every woman, and every man and woman either doesnt know his father because his mother needs to pretend to be a heavily abused single mom or his father is terrified of his mother and lets her control his life

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A New Age of Politics is to come where force and strength reign. What books should I be reading to be amongst the dominant political force when the time comes? I have already read Evola, Jünger, Spengler, Hegel, Schmitt, Habermas, and I have also read Breker's own writing, which has galvanised me. But the clock is ticking and I do not feel ready.
Also books on getting rid of homosexual feelings are highly requested. I have not seen anywhere where the Great Thinkers talk on how to get rid of such feelings so I am very lost
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>>25180265
What are you trying to say? Speak plainly if you mean something.
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>>25180236
>sexology
i.e you are a faggot and you care less for socialism, liberalism, pacifism or any of that as long as you can coat your pp in another man's poopoo
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>>25180303
Naziiiiiiiiiiiiiiii kys
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>>25179754
My man, do I have the book for you. Attached is a link to the manifesto of MATTHEW C HARRIS, sometimes titled as DEATH sentences, the single greatest political author of our age. You're welcome. He's all you're going to need.

https://transfer.it/t/O4zUJR0HhLQA
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>>25179722
>Also books on getting rid of homosexual feelings are highly requested

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The Divine Comedy blew my mind
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>>25180324
Dont worry. The moment you say your book is like The Divine Comedy you'll be instantly rejected.
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>>25179541
>”intellectuals” who grow up secular dont understand the concept of hell until their mid 30s
grim
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>>25179541
I follow feser on twitter
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>>25179864
sounds based
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>>25179547
>DO WHAT I SAY OR YOU WILL BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>erm figuratively of course, I can't do shit in real life
fippy bippy

Thrice greatest edition

>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·
>>25103936

>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw

>Mέγα τὸ ANE·
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg

>Work in progress FAQ
https://rentry dot co/n8nrko

All Classical languages are welcome.
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>>25179135
hey that's one of my favorite Homeric epithets
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>>25179670
For me it's ἐϋπλόκαμος
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>>25179135
https://voca.ro/18KvD4LRXnOt
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>editio princeps
Who can write an entire book or at least a well written essay completely in Latin?
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>>25180450
it's not doing it the problem, is finding a reason to


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