[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/lit/ - Literature

Name
Spoiler?[]
Options
Subject
Comment
Verification
4chan Pass users can bypass this verification. [Learn More] [Login]
File[]
  • Please read the Rules and FAQ before posting.

08/21/20New boards added: /vrpg/, /vmg/, /vst/ and /vm/
05/04/17New trial board added: /bant/ - International/Random
10/04/16New board for 4chan Pass users: /vip/ - Very Important Posts
[Hide] [Show All]


[Advertise on 4chan]

[Catalog] [Archive]

ToT UOHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
25 replies and 5 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
Bump
>>
>>24944962
Not a boy.
Don't give a shit.
KYS, pedo.
>>
>>24949238
This man wants gavroche
>>
bump
>>
The 1st half is way better than the 2nd half

File: 1764341018215058.jpg (105 KB, 1024x1024)
105 KB
105 KB JPG
I like to read philosophy although I don't understand like 70% of what is written. Actually I like to read smart people, people with soulfulness, I like to learn the truth about reality even if I can't grasp it with most of the part.
I'm currently reading Spengler's main work and it's good for the part I do understand.
Thanks for reading my blog.
2 replies omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24949062
Xenophon Memorabilia
>>
File: 1765555581899434.jpg (119 KB, 886x851)
119 KB
119 KB JPG
A lot of modern shit doesn't make sense because it is based on falsehoods and degenerate passions. They key thing to know is that one does not gain understanding merely by "being smart," reading the opinions of others, and arguing. This only leads to sophistries. The key tools of the lover of true wisdom are fasting, vigils, prayer, meditation, breath prayers and mantras, and all other manner of askesis.

The teachings of the greats, who get at least something essential right, such as Plato, Laotze, Aristotle, or Epicetus are accessible even to the unlearned and simple, but they are also deep beyond fathoming. Of course, the fullness of revelation dwells in a deeper gnosis held by those saints who grew closest to the Logos.
>>
>>24951262
>fasting, vigils, prayer, meditation, breath prayers and mantras, and all other manner of askesis
Some of these are useful in moderation, some are mostly useless.
Mysticism has never achieved anything of substance. In rare cases, it can be hijacked as a symbol for an external creed, but it can also lead a society to a coma.
>>
>>24951262
>fasting, vigils, prayer, meditation, breath prayers and mantras, and all other manner of askesis
Dont confuse conduct with what is conducive.>>24951294
This anon is correct.
>>
>>24949062
right wingers are retarded as usual

File: 1760885073946074.jpg (264 KB, 1273x1600)
264 KB
264 KB JPG
>If there is a danger, it lies in the Negro music and dancing that has been imported into Europe. This music has completely won over a whole section of the cultured population of Europe, to the point of real fanaticism. It is inconceivable that the incessant repetition of the Negroes’ physical gestures as they dance around their fetishes or that the constant sound of the syncopated rhythm of jazz bands should have no ideological effects.
Was unc spittin fax here?
21 replies and 1 image omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24951168
A small handful of rappers from the 90‘s genuinely lived the image you‘re projecting, as could be said for a handful of artists from any genre. The fact that this doesn‘t pertain to the vitality of the music nonwithstanding.

Any rap you hear published today is either a media creation or some kid with a Soundcloud.
>>
>>24951229
This is just Middle Eastern music, brought to Southern Italy and Iberian Peninsula by Arabs.
>>
>>24950883
Rhythmaxxing is the intellectual's choice.
Most people simply do not have the brain power to hold two basic rhythms in their head, let alone multiple complex layered rhythms with changing signatures and patterns.
>>
File: curly-three.gif (2.88 MB, 640x482)
2.88 MB
2.88 MB GIF
>No, kill the beautiful instead. The horrifying ugly monsters must destroy the beautiful
>>
>>24950708
I am ashamed to admit I like rap, but I listen to post-punk and classical music more

File: IMG_6484.jpg (1.18 MB, 1179x1716)
1.18 MB
1.18 MB JPG
I regularly see threads on JP and Zizek but less commonly Jung and rarely Lacan.
I have been reading Lacan on and off throughout the year and it has been pretty revelatory to me. If I were to try to take a stab at summarizing Lacan for anons that haven’t studied him, basically everything is fake and gay, anything not fake and gay is real, and >you are a subject beneath the fake and gay but not exactly a 1:1 product of the fake and gay. Your motif should be to recognize that to understand the real through anything fake and gay is impossible, therefore traverse the fake and gay knowing it’s fake and gay in accordance to your desire(TM). If anyone with more experience in Lacanian thought disagrees with my shit take, feel free to correct. Question: Why is Lacan not talked about as often as Freud and Jung are, or perhaps in general? Is his thought too subversive? Is it because he’s French?
Pic related, worst mistake of my life
3 replies omitted. Click here to view.
>>
File: IMG_6482.jpg (42 KB, 600x600)
42 KB
42 KB JPG
>>24950626
If you want to start with Lacan, I found the Cambridge Introduction to Lacan to be a great primer. I am better versed in Jungian thought than Lacanian, but I’ve found the Lacanian lens to be rather useful for me personally. Consider giving it a quick glance to see if it’s interesting to you.
>>24950606
Interestingly, Lacan would reject that there is a “meta” to be reached. Everything is symbols (which leads to the point you raised), quite interesting imo.
>>
Lacan is the comp. lit. survival outpost for German Idealists who cant read German.
>>
>>24950626
I’ve heard bits from Jung that made sense to me, but never sat right. And I think I know why now: psychiatrists borrow the authority of the poet without the poet’s vocation (calling).
>>
>>24950725
Iirc is was X where he goes through anxiety. You're right in the sense this is all made up, it's literally whatever you've created to convince yourself you need a sexual partner. No matter how many paradoxes you work through you eventually hit objet. Everyone has this though, theoretically pre-Lacanian ideas can still apply. Big O is usually why he ends up being popular with all of those other thinkers. Big O is the imaginary symbolic order or hypothetical authority that still excludes jouissance of other. Lacan couldn't create it without borrowing from a schematic that's Hegelian in some ways. So instead of a floating truth value system (Lacan rejects this) you get a sort of desirous paradox with floating values. This makes it popular to a wide variety of people. You can substitute a car in or frankly anything really and start using Big O. The catch is that whatever has been assigned doesn't have this applied value, you enter a register loop, objet is just objet you invented the values. At some point this is realized and whatever your left with is whatever your left with. There might still be a coherence loop, realization doesn't end the sequence arbitrarily, but the realization can't be reversed.
>>
>>24950506
forgive me, but what is so special about Lacan other than him mystifying and turning eternal the bourgeois patriarchical family?

File: default.png (434 KB, 437x648)
434 KB
434 KB PNG
If you are an American or English, why are you not reading the wealth of world-historic literature written in your own tongue for people of your own mind?

Why are you reading translations of brown-people literature (viz. French, Italian, German, Spanish, Russian) instead of the WASP corpus?
>>
File: 1745450412189458.jpg (6 KB, 202x250)
6 KB
6 KB JPG
>>24951500
Because our literature sucks. Who'd read Walter Scott over Alexandre Dumas? Sterne over Cervantes or Rabelais? Steinbeck over Zola? Dickens over Galdós or Balzac? Hardy over Tolstoy?
>reading translations
Not everyone is an EOP.
>>
>>24951528
So then you admit that brown people are better writers than white people?
>>
File: G7-RfxGWAAYFeU2.jpg (239 KB, 900x1200)
239 KB
239 KB JPG
i love Thomas Fuller, i love Jeremy Taylor, and i love reading them after misty walks in the fens. but if i felt i was venerating The WASP Canon i wouldn't read a line of them. death to English culture.
>>
>>24951528
>Sterne over Cervantes
Me.
And Tolstoy is by far the most overrated author I've ever read.

File: 1679539236646441.png (260 KB, 699x485)
260 KB
260 KB PNG
I write for illiterates.
3 replies omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24950803
This is unironically what MrBeast does.
>>
>>24951675
>MrBeast
MrBeast makes videos, retard.
>>
>>24950803
Non canimus surdis.
>>
>>24951699
Gen Alpha watches silently with subtitles. He notoriously employs a rather large text publishing team to make them better than the standard YouTube auto CC.
>>
>>24950803
Can someone explain what this means? I can't read

I am ignorant of the Eastern ways. What is the point to negating every point and entering complete dissolution from being? Why is annihilation the good if we can't even have a good? Or am I misunderstanding the Buddha.
>>
A true intellectual understanding of concepts like emptiness does not occur until you have made some spiritual progress. This either requires you to have a teacher who can train you, or you follow a western path first then jump over once you're ready.
For now, practise being mindful and meditate. The concept of "ichigo zammai" will be useful, as well as zen stuff as a whole. You need to experience things, not just thinkcel about it.
>>
>>24951049
How do I experience things?
>>
Annihilation isn't the goal of Taoism
In Taoism you're supposed to extend your life as far as possible
>>
>>24951789
>t. hasn't read zhuangzi

File: pseud core.jpg (434 KB, 1024x1536)
434 KB
434 KB JPG
If you identify yourself by reading something that makes you appear smart, you are not a reader. You are a poseur. Especially if what you read is only chosen because it's been chosen for you by a consensus of "academics" and "critics" who couldn't hack into the sciences. Literary studies and English departments are by far the least intellectually rigorous on a university campus.
16 replies omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24950282
>melty continues
Lol, lmfao even
>>
I can't help but notice all but two are post-modern. Postmodern lit is truly garbage.
>>
>>24949865
>poseur
kek
good bait
>>
File: 91bhtcnC-JL._SL1500_.jpg (388 KB, 976x1500)
388 KB
388 KB JPG
comics reign supreme
>>
File: uuy.png (221 KB, 822x844)
221 KB
221 KB PNG
So, I don't actuality like coprophilia I'm just pretending to to pwn the libs?

Unwilling Eldritch Horror of Slop Edition

Stubbed >>24943213

>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.

Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
231 replies and 21 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24951723
I self edited that
>>
>>24951718
>air and earth are up and down but fire and water aren't left and right
gay
>>
>>24951512
>>24951581
>>24951614
Thanks, I'll check them out
>>
>>24950445
Same here. It's happened to me so many times I wonder how any writer has ever gotten anything done ever.
This is one of those instances in which trad publishing beats webnovel serials, you only have to drag yourself through the hell of writing 200 pages and that,s it whereas writing ad infinitum lasts until you Hemingway yourself.
>>
>>24951794
you can write a beginning to end 200 page web serial though, that's what I plan on doing with mine. Web serials don't have to go on forever.

Sapient Species, Races, and Miscellaneous Sapients Edition

FAQ:
>What is worldbuilding?
Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.
>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"
Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.
>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"
If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.
>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"
Yes, of course you can!
>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"
Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.

Old Thread: >>24748733
244 replies and 41 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24946278
To prevent prior clashing, I immediately imagined these birdfolk living on floating cities like in bioshock infinite. I know you specified they're nomads but I struggle to wrap my head around how you plan for a nomadic culture broken into factions to put up a fight against the organized armies of humanity. Anyway, I think putting them in that unreachable realm solves the problem of no prior clashing, and perfectly sets up for war resulting of humanity's advancements in aviation- which lines up with the late 1800s period you mentioned. Humanity's rigid, but high firepower flying machines vs the birdfolks natural affinity for airborne combat sounds like a setup for some really cool fights. This is just what popped in my head when reading what you wrote.
>>
File: Taube-In-Battle[1].jpg (62 KB, 804x525)
62 KB
62 KB JPG
>>24949430
I see your point, but the mobility offered by a natural ability to fly would make it much easier for such a species to move between settlements. I planned to have them live in the mountains so far (so they can make use of the third dimension) and live off of pastoralism and hunting, since watching over livestock is much easier from the air, particularly if you can just slash wolves or similar predators to death with your claws. To offset this, their numbers will be low and pneumatized skeletons will give them a massive durability disadvantage against humans in close quarters, which makes them less suited for settling (or attacking) large settlements in the plains.

Human warfare against them would mostly be tunneling to negate their maneuvering space and artillery to shell their settlements from afar, while the birdfolk would essentially be an airborne guerilla and small raider packs - think of it like the Taliban in the 80s and later on, but winged - and to make up for them lagging behind in tech, you can even add in another human faction supplying them with theirs, if we stick to the Afghanistan example. Not making humanity a monolith working in unison to cull the fowl definitely will be high on my agenda.

When it comes to the earliest aviation, you shouldn't be thinking of biplanes and triplanes with fixed machine guns and dashing Red Baron types immediately, but rather aircraft like the Blériot XI, Etrich Taube or the various serial craft of the Wright company. These, alongside airships and balloons will be absolute maximum the human pilots can muster at the beginning of the story, and woefully inferior to the flight performance of the adversaries. But the point is that human tech can mature and develop, and evolution cannot, making it a race against time for the birdfolk to win or at least force a draw before the tech can mature.
>>
>>24868365
What do you need to consider when including artificial races like golems, homunculi, etc.?
>>
>>24951559
>Who made them?
>Are they still being created in the present?
>What is/was their purpose?
>Are they mass-produced or crafted individually? How much variation there is? Are newer/older models better?
>How likely they are to rebel or function not as expected? How does this typically manifest?
>Do they have souls? If yes, does the soul just appear or is a soul a necessary ingredient to make them?
>Can they reproduce themselves?
>Do their bodies heal on their own? Or can they do their own maintenance?
>Are they mortal?
>Do they have any unusual physiological needs? (Drinking blood, charging with electricity, etc.?) How does this alter their life in the society?
>Do they have any unusual physiological afflictions? (Falling apart from rust, etc.?)
>Did their maker engineer a weakness in them accidentally or on purpose to keep them in control?
>How numerous and widespread are they?
>Does their existence have an appreciable effect on the overall economy?

Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>
>>24949315
Well I'm working on Alternate history with no supernatural elements or techno-magic. Point of Divergence is in the 1480s or 1490s.

File: IMG_8225.jpg (31 KB, 324x500)
31 KB
31 KB JPG
What’s the male version of this? I’m tired as fuck
52 replies and 4 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24946863
>Both are low quality but want high quality. They would NEVER settle for each other.

Literally could not have said it any better. People would be happier dating if they were just honest with themselves and know where they stand on the quality scale.
>>
>>24950524
So then both are straight and asexual? as in, the nerdiest gayest ugliest people people I ever met were fucking each ragged in the theatre department of High School. Seems like Gay incels just don't exist.
>>
>>24944451
every single D.E.I. character he did not have to "include"
>>
>>24950524
So you think it's a pure coincidence that statistically a higher % of men than women don't have sex and a higher % of men than women has no children?
>>
real answer is Houellebecq's extension du domaine de la lutte

Two Weeks Left Edition

>Old:
>>24936611

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
175 replies and 35 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24951749
What’s so good about three stigmata? It’s the only one I’ve read and I’d be hard-pressed to say I enjoyed it. I’m a midwit who hates the Inception “what if we’re still in the dream” trope.
>>
Any historical fiction or fantasy books with a pre-Islamic Middle Eastern setting? I’m interested in learning more about the folklore/culture after watching The Breadwinner. Preferably without themes of sexism or racism.
tldr: Non-woke djinnbrained book suggestions
>>
>>24951782
Nta, IIRC it was a five-book series, book four split completed his publishing deal so he went to Baen before Daw bought him back, by which point he decided he needed two more after Ashes of Man. But yeah SuT left me high and dry. Ruocchio started out with this unreliable narrator conceit but the story grew into a fairly conventional epic that snaps back to unreliable narration at the very end, denying the reader the catharsis he (I, frankly) wants after thousands of pages. I liked Disquiet Gods but Shadows Upon Time lacked the base appeal of the prior books' structure and setpieces. With all the political machinations and whatnot felt like a slow Red Rising book rather than a Sun Eater book of KoD, HD, DiW, or DG's caliber
>>
File: valis.jpg (134 KB, 640x480)
134 KB
134 KB JPG
>>24951749
brotha yes he did and it's VALIS
>>
>>24951842
>Ruocchio started out with this unreliable narrator conceit but the story grew into a fairly conventional epic
Good, I fucking hate unreliable narrators.
>that snaps back to unreliable narration at the very end
Didn't notice, thankfully. What are you referring to?

>is arguably the single most racist author in American history
>marries a Jewish woman
What did HP Lovecraft mean by this?
28 replies and 3 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24946601
Jews aren't a race, that's Jewish propaganda.

>>24947042
Just Ashkenazi.
>>
bump
>>
>>24949996
When you think about it, white supremacists are actually the least racist people.
>>
what a magnificent, turboneetchud bastard. nothing but respect.
>>
>>24947042
No no, you see Jews are not white, even though they coincidentally look mostly like the average white person
It's a fucking conspiracy!!!

File: channels4_profile.jpg (117 KB, 900x900)
117 KB
117 KB JPG
Desperately reconcile with your irredeemable faith, sheep.
53 replies and 5 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24951768
What a pussy. So this is the power of atheism?
>>
>>24951815
they insist on being taken over. that's their whole religion.
>>
>>24951806
Because /lit/ is retarded
>>
>>24951826
So atheism is when you're a cuck?
>>
File: image.jpg (25 KB, 463x604)
25 KB
25 KB JPG
>>24951841
offering their taxes while they're sitting in the corner too

>What makes you think you're good enough to write a book?
22 replies omitted. Click here to view.
>>
File: z56guiwvexz01.jpg (169 KB, 768x960)
169 KB
169 KB JPG
>>24948669
I've been at least half decent at almost everything I've ever tried. Basically, I'm not a retard.
>>
>>24948669
anons were talking about a short sentence, and how they couldn't purple/extend it poetically. I proffered my take on it, and everyone liked it. Two said "I'm using that!", that's when I knew I should be writing.
>>
>>24948669
I wanna do my part.
>>
File: 1749144410089988.jpg (562 KB, 827x827)
562 KB
562 KB JPG
>>24948669
I like writing notes I think are important down. I don't actually care if someone else reads them.

It's like, a grocery store is better at providing food, but I like to garden.
>>
>>24948669
Because I've written six and I don't need the approval of other people


[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.