>>24943213
I trying to make a cultivation novel with 108 OP antagonists, but so far i could only come up with 72 "unique" powers (some overlap but i think i can make it work)

I need unconventional but cool powers
i didn't notice we were on page 10, no wonder it was slow

>>24943213
>Anime in OP
Uh oh!

>>24943034
>but writing as a skill is both 'just write more' AND 'just read more'
Writing more doesn't even make you better at writing, it's not a mechanical skill like drawing.
If you can't effectively self-critique it's kinda worthless. You see this a lot with people like fanfic authors who write for decades and still end up drastically worse than people who randomly decide to start writing one day.

>>24943219
72 is enough, you can vaguely link it to the 72 Earthly Fiends.

>>24943244
>You see this a lot with people like fanfic authors who write for decades and still end up drastically worse than people who randomly decide to start writing one day.
This happens for all artists, skills, disciplines.
Writing isn't purely mechanical but there very much is a practice requirement, it's not purely knowledge. So many authors tout the '1 million word rule' and insist you don't just study writing endlessly for a reason.
I see what you're saying though. What do you call something that isn't mechanical but not purely knowledge based either?

>>24943252
The word for it is "art."
Blacksmithing is an art.
Writing is an art.
Painting is an art.
Sculpting is an art.
There's an element of skillfully doing along with an element of knowledge.

>>24943219
72 is enough. 40 was a number I was trying to hit until I realized that it's okay to leave a lot of the powers a mystery. Makes the world feel less contrived and more open for future exploration.

>>24943245
>>24943282
>72 is fine
Seems like a waste not to have the full Suikoden roster...

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Any other /wng/ darlings who are actually just ripping off a pre-existing story?

>>24943296
Is this a fanfic of a video game or based on Japanese mythology? Google is only showing the video game. If you're doing a fanfic I don't think you need to do much at all in-terms of the magic system.

>>24943296
Guy on a literature board who talks about Water Margin by referencing Suikoden

>>24943304
Nah, i just needed a shitload of OP antagonists and the 108 stars of destiny sounds pretty badass, then i found out it was based on Water Margin, which was even better

>>24943312
I'm personally not a fan of arbitrarily tacking on references (especially mythological/theological ones) for simple rule of cool but hey a lot of people find it interesting. I still think 72 is enough for antagonists.

>>24943263
Don't forget the element that allows the work to resonate with people on an emotional/intellectual level in a way that can't be scientifically quantified. Also known as soul.

>>24943333
Excellent point and excellent post number.
Things that can be quantified and rules based are sciences.
The rest are arts.
Mechanics and statics are sciences.
Architecture is an art that relies on mechanics and statics (among other sciences).

>>24943298
I liked that webcomic, never read the novel, he slowly goes insane for being stuck constantly redoing everything over and over again because he has a shit class and dies all the time

ok what kind of magic do I give my mc that is cool and unique without being the cookie cutter cool and unique

>>24943406
Give him a low powered form of magic so he has to climb up and prove his worth through superior tactics and skill.

>>24943406
Earth elemental powers to dig up ores and gems and all sorts of other goodies from deep underground on a super earth.

Which name should I use for my MC? A western name( I don't like it since it's too corny), a japanese name (I don't like it since it's too weeb), a chinese name (I prefer this the most since it's the middle ground). Thoughts?

>>24943424
What is your story about? If it's a martial arts series stick to asian names. The name should be setting appropriate.

>>24943424
Depends on your setting and the birth place and/or ethnicity of your character. Duh.

>After Genderswap Reincarnation I Raised the Strongest Slopper Edition
what did he mean by this

>>24943432
>>24943433
Sorry I forgot the details. It's a litrpg + Isekai + timeloop + battles. Kind of like Jujutsu Kaisen/Hunter x Hunter combined with Re:zero + litrpg

>>24943424
Assuming the genre is xianxia or wuxia.
>western name
only okay if you are doing an isekai or actually worldbuilding a western cultivation/martial arts culture.
>Japanese name
Only okay if your setting is actually Nipponese enough.
>Chinese
Should be the standard choice for xianxia stories but other than that I don't see why anyone would use Chinese names in a story that's not written for the Chinese readership in Chinese language.

i will now be taking jap LN (translated, of course) recs because i am in a "download random shit off nyaa" funk
please be useful and tell me fun stuff to read

Anyone got a recommendation for a male OP MC story? Something like The Storm King?

Worldbuilding autists give me guidance. I want a world I can potentially stick with for a long time.
Its the typical demon lord and hero kind of setting. What kind of cool shit should I put in my world? I'm at the point of needing to draw continents and islands.

>>24943459
If you like edge, Saga of Tanya the Evil.
If you like cute and funny, Didn't I Say To Make My Abilities Average?!, or anything by FUNA
What're you into? I've read most of what gets officially translated (less so these days, a few years ago I'd say I'd read everything).

This is a public service announcement!
Do not waste time reading 'I'm Not The Hero'.
Why?
It's shit. [\spoiler]

>>24943406
Replication ability. The drawback being it costs more mana/ energy the more atomically complex the item is, that or it has a once a day cool down.

>>24943406
The power of Vril, excavated from the depths of his white blood.

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>>24943219
Reverend has a lot of cool and unique powers.
I like Wu Yong, Farewell Friend Wind is cool. Feng Jiu Ge, Bo Qing, and of course Duke Long all have very cool power sets as well. The Verdant Sun Flame Cloak jobber, Purple Mountain True Monarch, Dong Fan Chang Fan and a few others have interesting moves here and there. Obviously all the venerables have cool shit.
Also, wisdom path, human path, and heaven path are all very unique. Food path, luck path, refinement path, dream path, and rule path are interesting too.

Obviously Fang Yuan has a shitload of cool moves.

>>24943298
What do you mean "darlings"? No one here's ever read FFF.

The Art of Gold Digging has pretty well written drama, but her prophetic power ruins the story. Every conflict is solved by her asking her power what to do and she does it. The information she or the reader has is meaningless. So there's no tension and no way for the reader to know how she's going to overcome the next challenge because she doesn't need to either. Need to break some wards? Just do what your power says. Need to do a blood magic ritual? Your power will tell you how to do it. Need to escape a horde of enemies? Your power will tell you the exact path to take.
She's just a complete passenger in her own story. Any time she has a problem she basically just flips the "autopilot" switch and her power solves it.

>>24943542
not that anon but i actually wanted to do this but what the fuck does vril even do it's just vague and fairly generic psychic powers shit

Name three webnovels worth reading from posters in these threads.

>>24943817
It's an extremely niche hobbyist space with maybe 10 authors publicly associating. Basic statistics will tell you that the odds of even one person writing something 'worth reading' here is extremely low. And you want three??

>>24943817
crow anon is nice so it's worth reading to support a real one
even if his story is mid

>>24943821
Nobody here managed to come up with a single line of criticism for my story, while everyone at RR loves it, but it's somehow not even worth consideration here. Meanwhile you guys read some angstic femoid schizo ramblings and gush about their outstanding writing lmao

>>24943854
post your fic right now and I'll come with plenty of criticism

>>24943855
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/119783/fff-class-unlucky-antagonist-villains-origin-story

>>24943855
Yeah, I don't doubt there's a lot of acidic flaming coming, but no thanks

>>24943858
it is a very FFF coded post

>>24943459
Gu Zhen Ren is a good one.

>>24943745
I thought it had a fun setup but five minutes later she was basically a part of the hero's group doing adventures with them.
That's not the way to use that setup interestingly lol

>>24943854
> everyone at RR loves it
All three of them?
> Nobody here managed to come up with a single line of criticism for my story,
It's like trying to parse a 2000 page academic text book in a language you don't understand while walking through a waist deep field of mud. Nothing about it is enjoyable to read. It's honestly one of the most boring and tediously written stories I've encountered on RR.

>>24943854
schizo readers
schizo writers
schizo thread

>>24943733
I have, it's fine!

>>24943459
I'm a spider, so what?
Ascendance of a bookworm
Silent witch
Mushoku tensei
reincarnated as a slime
Abilities average
Saving 80000 gold
Eminence in shadow
Kuma bear
Tsukimichi

On Nyaa, there's a torrent that has practically all officially translated LNs "Officially Translated Light Novels (LNs) v23.01"

>>24943459
there's like 10 good light novels, unfortunately Monogatari is one of them

>>24943745
The author pantsed a great premise and fucked up the execution. The fiction's been dead in the water since like 20 chapters after it started.

>>24943854
>Nobody here managed to come up with a single line of criticism for my story,
You've gotten half a dozen long explanations for why it sucks
"People" on RR call it good because of the filtering effect. 99.9% of people bounce off of it for the reasons we mentioned here, but the 0.1% that remain think it's good and say so to encourage the small, noname author.
Small stories benefit from a much nicer comment section.
The more popular you are, the more demanding the audience, because you start getting normies who have higher standards. Even if those standards are still low compared to tradpub readers. The people reading 100 follower stories on Royalroad are a different breed entirely from a regular reader.

>>24944440
Did you actually think I was the FFF-faggot? Schizo

>>24944490
I was 50:50. He's made equally delusional posts before.

>>24944497
He never fails to include a link to the latest chapter in his shill posts

>>24944440
reading 100 follower stories to the end is the simplest way to ensure you get sent into the world of the story, that's just a simple fact

>>24944490
Also my response still applies to you, even if you aren't FFF.

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>>24943817
FFF-Class 'Unlucky Antagonist.'
Labours of Zucchini.
The Crown and the Rabbit.

>Empress of fire
Started quite good, but then she gets hired in the restaurant and is instantly given a silver spoon. What a waste of time. Literally subverts the entire story by being such a bland resolution to her poverty.

>>24944516
No it doesn't lol

>>24944519
I thought zucchini dumped /wng/ and went somewhere else

Can you be too good at writing for RR's audience?
Like I've been happily reading slop but I'm way harsher on my own writing, even when it's already better than what I read

>>24944605
I can promise you without a shred of a doubt that you're not "too good" for RR. Also that your writing is actually more likely to be doggerel than that of your average RR writer.

>>24943858
The medieval world and modern RPGs are a style that's hard to mesh well and I'll be honest with you the clash is too much for me. I don't think it's bad as a litRPG and you seem to be going off of that but the dialogue alone made me know that historic references were mostly going to be surface level.

>>24944557
No it doesn't.
The theme of the story is sacrifice.
She is willing to sacrifice the silver spoon she was handed by fortune in order to attain power.
It is beautiful storytelling and the author's willingness to stay on the motive of sacrifice makes it a very strong story.

Sadly, shortly after that the writer starts rushing out chapters without editing them anymore, which makes it barely readable to me....

>>24944622
First the anon ain't me. Shame on him.
Second, it's a modern world, not a medieval one. There is internet!
Third, I don't need historical references, 'cause my world has its own history.

What the fuck are you talking about?

>>24944605
Keep in mind that slop is enjoyable and gets reads because it gives readers what they want because that's what they click for. Compromises will have to be made for an audience no matter what you do and as long as it doesn't mess with the core themes of your work you shouldn't be afraid to appease them.

>>24944605
no? bizarre question. a skilled writer should be better at writing slop, not worse. unless they're some sort of savant that can only think on one genre axis
you're more critical of your own work than other people's

>>24943219
I have an antagonist that, in addition to soul magic, can manipulate thoughts and emotions. He has moves like "heavy heart", "regret chains", and "betrayal".

>>24944640
Saw the cover and the HRE being mentioned and I just assumed it would lean more into the historical side of things. I don't really like any of the modern tropes or dialogue but you seem to do them well and is good from that perspective.

>>24944635
She didn't earn her place. Literally didn't even try to go to the poor part of the city, and instead just whined that they wouldn't take her for the high-skill jobs in the nice part of town. Then lands into a position where the owners instantly love her and give her everything she wants just because. What sacrifice is there in giving up something that just landed on her lap?

And the whole lesbian side-arc just sounds fucking stupid and tacked-on.

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>>24944655
I was speaking about the Holy Rolandish Empire.
>modern dialogue.
That's for Royal Road.
You ought to respect the local culture.

>>24944664
>You ought to respect the local culture.
Fair enough. I'm trying to get myself to read contemporary fiction and it's been absolutely miserable. You seem to know your audience well and seem to have everything locked down.

>>24944605
Yes actually. But more about there's just simply dimishing returns with how good quality is from writing+reading fervantly. There's writers who hit RS or best rated and never once read a single book in their entire life(alledgey)

>>24944676
Thanks anon, you should post your story here.
>contemporary fiction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Master_and_Margarita
Read this anon, and thank me later.

>>24944658
She does try the poorer part, she even tries the brothel, that's where she gets the hint about the restaurant.
The owners love her because they lost their own daughter and see through her shell down to the abused soul, willing to offer her the parental love she never received.

She sees and feels that, but is still willing to sacrifice it for a mere chance at power.
That is still sacrifice, maybe even more so since it is offered by fortune, tempting her to accept a better life and lay off her plan to incinerate the village she was born in.

The temptation is beautifully woven into the theme of the mc daring/begging the gods to interfere with her plan and daring/begging the gods to keep her from doing evil.

The storytelling goes very deep and is thought through to an exceptional degree for a webnovel.

>And the whole lesbian side-arc just sounds fucking stupid and tacked-on.
The GL side-arc is the icing on the cake.
How can you complain about GL and still read stories on rr?
It would be weird if she weren't a lesbian.

>>24944693
>Thanks anon, you should post your story here.
Some day. I'm looking for the best way to publish what I'm working on and currently deciding between multiple things. I don't see it doing well on something like RR.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Master_and_Margarita
I'm fascinated. I'll see if my library has it and if not I'll order it.

>>24944738
I will eagerly wait.

>>24944728
>she even tries the brothel
she tries the brothel because it's 1 street away from her inn and instantly bails. The inn that by the way she gets a massive feels-good discount on for no good reason, and specifically isn't in the poor part of town despite her supposedly being a poor as fuck country bumpkin.

>owners love her because they lost their own daughter and see through her shell down to the abused soul, willing to offer her the parental love she never received.
There are 1000 of these kids in the big city, and she just happens to luck into it. And the restaurant staff should have kicked her out the second the she tried to enter the building, anyways. She also doesn't even look like the their dead daughter.

>She sees and feels that
She doesn't feel much more than "I'm milking this relationship"

>The temptation is beautifully woven
You mean, she gets another, better option in yet another silver platter

>How can you complain about GL and still read stories on rr?
Because the revelation is awkward as fuck and reads tacked-on.

>>24944758
>>24944728
I read ahead of the spot where I stopped.

She doesn't sacrifice anything. Her adoptive parents in fact recommend her, and they'd be a safety net if she fails. Oh, and of course, she gets the job after a terrible interview.

"Sacrifice"
What a load of bollocks.

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>story has people slaughtered in cold blood
>human experimentation
>child soldiers
>dictatorship
>fascist oppression
>what readers care about:
>"why isn't this character ashamed of being seen naked? It seems implausible"
I just can't with americans

>>24944728
>The owners love her because they lost their own daughter and see through her shell down to the abused soul, willing to offer her the parental love she never received.
Now how convenient is that lmao

>>24944615
shut up cunt

>>24944602
He remarked on the discord before he planned on moving on to different projects after he wrapped up Zucchini

are there any non-Chinese WNs that have had transmigrators other than the MC in the distant past?

>>24944823
Melody of mana

>>24944758
all of this stuff is explained in the story, the list of recommendations she gets, the money and clothes she sets aside so as to not appear too poor, why she get's the discount in the inn etc etc.
If it's too thin for your taste then whatever, I'm not arguing that the author has written a new Oliver Twist, but for a webnovel, all the literary elements come together beautifully to form a whole and reinforce emotions.

>>The temptation is beautifully woven
>You mean, she gets another, better option in yet another silver platter
All the stepping stones are woven into each other, it's not just piled.
The training at the restaurant makes it possible to then apply for the handmaiden, as an example.
And her emotions go way deeper than "I'm milking this relationship". There's a relatable internal conflict explicitly described over at least one paragraph.
It has merit and is beautifully done for a preamble to what I the reader was looking forward to, which was "angry yuri-chick throwing around fireballs killing everyone".
Bit sad I didn't get to that part.

>>24944775
>She doesn't sacrifice anything.
She could remain in a loving home with good folks she's grown to like being around.
Rejecting that is a sacrifice.

I agree it would have been stronger if the owners had cut ties at that point. Maybe the author wanted to emphasize what good people they are, I don't know.
Still works tho.

>>24944823
mine but the readers don't know it yet and the MC isn't a transmigrator

>>24944837
>all of this stuff is explained in the story, the list of recommendations she gets, the money and clothes she sets aside so as to not appear too poor, why she get's the discount in the inn etc etc.
She's supposedly working at half pay, double hours, and her mother is taking all but the tips. She starts the series with 40 bits, which is practically nothing,
and lands in the city a year later with enough money to not appear poor, getting the premium deluxe bus ride with cherry on top (unlike the poor people fighting for bread)
before that,
>gifted an expensive dagger
>gifted an education in reading
>gifted an expensive quill
>gifted an easy murder on her rapist (literally lmao, this 13-year-old twig somehow reaches around and stabs him through the back??)
>gifted a math book
>gets a significant discount in the inn
>gifted a job from heaven from amazing people with amazing connections
>gifted dresses, room and board
>gifted a massive tip from a noble for recommending them cheap wine on her first day
>gifted a massive inheritance
>despite it all, gets gifted a recommendation for the Baron
>flunks the interview, and gets the job anyway
Literally nothing can stop her from the point she decides to leave her home.

>>24944823
a conneticuit yankee in the court of king arthur :)

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Will websloppers read a story that is fundamentally about travelling around and finding yourself as a person?
I don't want to introduce any looming threat or big bad until pretty late in the game, and I'm not even set on that.

>>24944916
You don't need a looming threat or big bad if you keep driving the action forward from one mini-arc to the next.
If your pacing's shit you will need to do mystery box worldbuilding to keep people hooked instead, though

>>24944873
yet all of it is explained in the story, every single point you mentioned.
Even the deluxe bus ride. She actually talks about that before the caravan starts, explicitly explaining why she must save enough to pay the higher fare so as not to starve during the caravan.

I'm not gonna reread it or start quoting from it, but iirc she had about 100 bits when she arrives at the inn.
But again, I don't think it's even relevant if the math doesn't add up to the last bit.

I have no problem with fate bestowing boons, if executed nicely, which it is in this case.
I much prefer an author rely on this device to a write a neat and easy story than desperately trying to rationalize and minutely justify every last little detail and happenstance befalling the mc.
You have to be insanely talented as a writer to pull that off.

So do you know a better villain-story on rr?
Or what are you even arguing against? It was put forward as "one of the best on rr", so which one would you recommend instead?
And no I'm not asking to ridicule it, I'm genuinely looking for stuff to read.

>>24944916
There's a nip translating his story into english and it seemed good enough to get a wholesome review from one of the RR forum regulars, so yeah. I can't get into first-person stories anymore so it wasn't for me thoughbeit.

>>24944946
>genuinely looking for stuff to read.
Same.

I will be writing my own semi-villain story with every story beat justified. Stay tuned on RR approximately a year from now.

>>24944958
>with every story beat justified.
While I was writing my post I was thinking about that and the question if such a story would even be enjoyable to read.....
Even more.....is anything in real life really justified to its last beat?
There is always a lot of rationalization in hindsight, giving meaning to stuff after it's happened, trying to draw dots in a consistent line...stuff like that.

Suspension of disbelief is nothing to be frowned upon and speaking for myself I am more than willing to engage in it as a reader.

If I want realism I can always read a biography....

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is that a heckin RI reference

>>24945019
The power of developmental editing can make it enjoyable to read. Implicit reasoning, foreshadowing, subtext, and such. That is why I will only dump my story once I am done with it; otherwise it just rattles all over the place.

>>24945052
i know people say modern webnovel is just Monte Cristo but sloppified
but there's a shocking amount of influence from russian literature in webnovel tropes

>>24945052
This is an absolutely hilarious misreading of the novel.
And AHouT is not a subtle book.

>>24945052
wtf is this

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>>24945086
chink WN where the MC got isekaied into 1840s russia as a writer

>>24943406
I was going to throw out a ridiculous idea for you but midway though I realized it was genius so now I'm going to keep it for myself.
>>24943424
Bobf Aggot
>>24944642
I think it has less to do with what's good and what's slop, and more to do with the reader's ability. A good writer will expect the reader to be somewhat literate. A slopper wont. This creates a barrier where readers get filtered.

>>24945052
Lermontov was writing the exact opposite of what he wanted to be. He was criticizing the people and society of his time.

Pechorin is brooding and directionless. Fang Yuan is optimistic and driven. Pechorin is a fatalistic nihilist dicking around because he is empty inside. Fang Yuan is an overman, someone who creates his own morals regardless of the rules of society, deriving his own meaning and purpose. The only thing they have in common is that they both do evil shit.

>but fang yuan is an existentialist o algo
GZR constantly glazes Feng Jiu Ge, Spectral Soul, Tie Ruo Nan, Red Lotus, and others because, like Fang Yuan, they are overmen. They create their own morals and meaning apart from the ones thrust upon them by society. He even glazes Duke Long (literal dragon man, btw) who is the last man clinging to the safety and comfort of a once necessary, but now obsolete moral system. It's pretty overt.

>>24945075
Webnovels were popular in Russia WAY before they got popular in the west. I'm pretty sure they created or at least popularized the litrpg genre.
Besides, Russian Lit is broadly influential in all writing.

>>24944946
>>24944958
Anyone "looking for new stuff to read" is only waiting for something within their sphere of reference to hit the megapopular realm.
>>24944916
If it becomes popular enough, yes. /lit/ is full of normalfags who only consume about one book or series per year so it has to be on a bestselling list and approved by other 100IQ-having normalfags.

>>24945165
Why are you talking out of your ass?

>>24945168
>generic derogatory vaguepost
#gottem

>>24945171
No, you're just spouting shit. Why would you come into the one thread where people read metric tonnes of dogshit and claim posters don't read?

So, we have the precepts for succeeding on Royal Road. What about for other sites? I'm planning to publish on Scribblehub because my webnovel wouldn't do well on Royal Road, so I'd appreciate some advice on how to get eyes on my work.

>>24945176
don't act like we don't get tourists who've clearly never touched a webnovel
>am I allowed to do [thing you obviously are allowed to do]
>do people like [thing that is popular]

>>24945189
if it can't do well on RR, your chances fall drastically everywhere else upwards of 99% minimum.

>>24945191
>tourist
Please lurk for at least four more years before posting again, newfag.

>>24945199
It won't do well because I'm writing smut, which will definitely get removed from RR because the smut is actually important to the plot and can't be quarantined to extra chapters on other sites. Otherwise, it's a LitRPG so it would still be meta on RR if I wasn't sure it'd be removed.

>>24945200
the oldfags tend to be the lowest quality posters by far actually so me personally i want more newfags as long as they belong

>>24945220
your only peer is sissekai
enjoy your soul degenerating studies

>>24945226
>no u
What does you being new to 4chan have to do with this discussion?

>>24945176
>>24945191
weird samefag
every rec list is the same megapopular Rising Stars shit

>>24945253
why would I samefag someone disagreeing with me?

>>24945237
i wasn't that same anon and how it relates is literally stated in the post
ironically this is exactly what i mean. people proud of being oldfags are the worst posters on the board by far

I just discovered what Wattpad will and will not allow on their site, as far as explicit sexual content. Wrote a three part series. Very naughty, trust me. Number two and three were very naughty just not as bad as number one. It was over the top explicit. Number two and three seem fine though (for now)

>>24945278
>people discussing literature on the literature board are the worst posters
You are a 14-25 year old newfag destroying every conversation you touch.

>>24945278
u're the one who has derailed the thread into shitflinging because you coulnd't make an ontopic contribution

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>>24945165
then why don't you recommend something great that hasn't hit the megapopular realm?
I'm not gonna start a discussion on "whether I read or not" because that's just inanely retarded...
The mere fact that I'm asking for recommendations already proves that I'm trying to expand my sphere of reference and I'm deliberately asking an 4chan because I like 4chan and the people who are broken enough to frequent it

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I’m sick of LitRPGs. I’m sick of slice-of-life, progression-fantasy bullshit.
I wish Westerners would go back to doing what they do best, which is writing about cool dudes who need to foil the villains’ world-ending schemes while being hunted by half the nation’s army.

I'm more likely to click on a novel that has a sexy AI generated woman on the cover than one that doesn't. It's probably going to be slop, but there's a chance it will be good. Meanwhile the stories without such a cover tend to be full of onions.

>>24944640
>>24944655
>>24944664
Hate this guy like you wouldn't believe

>>24945458
BASED based BASED

>>24944946
nta but why even start her off as a poor girl if shes going to get all these lucky breaks?
Why not just have her be born a noble and then claw her way up from there?

>>24945415
Just go on Amazon then.
RR is a niche, it in no way represents the entirety of western fiction.
You're doing the equivalent of going to an anime convention and complaining there's not enough Star Trek presence

>>24945459
Rude.
Did you even read my story?

>>24945415
Read this
>>24944519

24945415
>Daily /wg/ melty disguised as someone that's ever even read a web novel
Just leave retard. Stop thinking about winnies and you'll stop getting upset.

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>>24945386
Not him but I got you senpai.
Read the comment section on each chapter, too, because there's a lot of good writing critique in it
>chapters stubbed
fug, forgot about that.
Still good stuff in volume two, pirate the first book. It's worth reading. Buy it if you like it.

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>>24945415

>>24945325
you are just proving my point
>>24945328
that was my second post. you are also proving my point

>>24945513
>CIA top sikrit seal team 9000 operator slop

>>24945519
How does you being new to 4chan relate to webnovels and why do you obsess over bringing this up in every single post you make?

>>24945113
His explanation of the russian superfluous man concept is fine but how the fuck did he get Pechorin is Lermontov chuuni self insert from that

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Even the sloppiest winnie slop has it's root in real literature.
at the bare minimum you have to read monte cristo to get how to write feel good stories which is basic skill all good winnie writer have