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why is there such an enormous library of literature in support of third worlders whose governments have betrayed them to westerners in exchange for money, but the library of literature is virtually nonexistent in support of westerners whose governments have betrayed them to third worlders in exchange for... something?
why is there such a glaring difference in the quantity of literature for these two topics which are fundamentally the same, despite the lesser written topic actually being more important?
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>>24972272
>https://militarnyi.com/en/articles/u-s-army-report-how-china-fights-in-large-scale-combat-operations/
>Through sophisticated AI-driven propaganda and targeted disinformation, China aims to manipulate military and civilian leaders’ perceptions through the cognitive domain to cause hesitation or paralysis in critical decision making processes. These operations are supported by China’s global intelligence apparatus that will collect on the intervening enemy’s military and civil activities to gain information and provide early warning. China’s expansive intelligence collection capabilities include satellites, high-altitude balloons, unmanned aircraft systems, human intelligence assets, and open-source intelligence operations.
So Chinese are targeting boomer leaders with AI slop to confuse them? Makes a lot of sense desu, I wondered how these retards could be so completely out of touch. Doesn't make our situation any better though, just means we're facing a two front way.
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>>24972285
>just means we're facing a two front way.
pretty much, though if there isn't sufficient force to break out both ways at once, a single direction must be chosen first to break out through and that direction has to be the weaker one of the two in order to be successful. the foreign nations are not the weaker of the two
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>>24972132
History is written by the victors.
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>>24972272
>read my libtard propaganda slop
I don't think 'I will tranny.
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>>24972384
>military defense papers are libtard propaganda slop
alright

>2026
>I am forgotten
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>>24971793
>>24971813
>>24971956
I am staying out of the Michelle business but it is somewhat diverting to see the pseudo-religiosity and knee jerk appeals to the high priests as opposed to just posting the text itself and showing or at least explaining why it is good.

That you all feel comfortable dismissing the backwoods retard in this way (when what is going on now is going on) is why i suspect his kind will eventually turn your kind into some variety of smoked meat or however they do it in kansas or southern Missouri or wherever he lives.

As a perpetual fence sitter I remain now, as always, comfy.
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>>24972256
I wouldn't be too proud of being a coward if I were you, there's nothing particularly noble about it
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>>24971745
rupi kaur was always much much bigger.
and genuine.

kaur's stuff actually appeals to people.
no matter what we think of it
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>>24972256
i'm not American so some of your local references there are lost on me, but are you saying you like the poetry of Amanda Gorman?
do you think it is good poetry?

if so, can you link us to some of your favourite Gorman poems, so we can try to see what you see?
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>>24972295
Where did i suggest i was proud?

I am comfy. I am an outsider. I'm an island unto myself.

Look fella, I went to the schools where they tried a lot of the things that /pol/ bitches about now out first.
I learned pretty early on the as a straight white male, my voice isn't needed. It's other people's turn to talk now, and so on.
Fine, fine, says I. I won't be bother. I'll just do my own thing.

And that's what I'm doing.

I'm sure that makes you unhappy to hear, because that sort vibe is what killed y'alls attempt last time in Russia. But, it is what it is. If you can do it without us, you can do it. If you can't, ya can't.

But I do wish you good luck pardner. I won't stand in your way.

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WHY IS EVERY FUCKING MODERN AUTHOR NOW A WOMAN? WHERE DID THE MEN GO?
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>>24968349
I post among you gentlemen. I am too lazy to write my novels so I just play them in my head over and over
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>>24968349
they literally don't publish you because you're a man. there's another post on this board right now about men basically getting fucked since 2014 by diversity shit.
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>>24968492
I feel like women making up most fiction writers makes sense desu. They're probably mostly publishing pulp romance slop and their fanfics with the character's names changed.
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>>24968349
we live in an era where men are the most boring, coddled, childish people on this planet and you wonder why women are more creative? you must not have been paying attention
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>>24971722
2/10 bait. try again, faggot

She Professed Herself The Pupil Of The Slopper Edition

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>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.

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>>24972395
Can you name some? I haven't really come across them and I've read at least two dozen cultivation novels (doesn't seem like a lot, but when they have 1000+ chapters it takes a while).
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>>24972398
>Can you name some
No
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>>24972398
systems are litrpg element
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>>24972400
>>24972401
Ok. I've read those cultivation novels where MC has some weird login system, but I wouldn't really consider those litrpg. It doesn't really involve stats or skills like an rpg would.
I guess He Who Fights With Monsters does come close.
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>>24972410
cultivation novels and litrpg do not work well together, it always turns into generic cultivation over time at least with the hundreds of those types I read over the decade

What esoteric practices actually work once you've learned too much and destroyed your ability to take any one scripture or symbolic system on faith?

I've tried fideism and it didn't work for me. I know too much about the historical contingency of various scriptures to believe in any one uncritically. I don't think I could get myself to believe that Muhammad was God's last prophet, that this or that guy is the true occultated mahdi, that Jesus was the literal son of God, that the Vedas were divinely inspired and simply apperceived by rishis, etc.

I've also tried various esoteric systems. They all seem to resolve into two aspects to me: an effectively arbitrary, historically contingent aspect and a core doctrine aspect. The core doctrine appears to be negative theology and moksha or unio mystica of some variety, and the historically contingent components appear to have required sincere, naive belief in their divine inspiration or at least their "it actually works, trust me bro" efficacy to be useful as stabilizers for achieving moksha/unio mystica.

The result is that all systems just seem to me like they're saying the same thing: "realize the truths of negative theology hard enough that you are motivated to still your thoughts; still your thoughts; then moksha/unio mystica happens." I get the first part, I have tried the second part, and the third part never arrives. I've talked to people who have done the second part way harder than I ever did, and they also said the third part never arrived. And those were the rare ones. Most practitioners seemed to be doing it either because they were actually fideists in disguise (and really believed Shiva or Jesus is a real guy who just wants them to do this stuff), or they were quietists in disguise and just liked that it made them more chill.

I don't want to be chill. I want to escape. I am okay with escape taking multiple lifetimes, but I would like to have a form of practice that actually convinces me that I am experiencing something that isn't discursive cognition. So far I have tried various forms of mind-quieting meditation and achieved some interesting mastery over my own nervous system (as far as I can tell), but nothing truly noetic or gnostic. I have also tried contemplative exercises, but because most of these are anchored in some symbolic system that requires sincere naive belief (like mediating on the ninety-one hats of Hatmandu), nothing happens. Lately the most success I have had at achieving something approximating noesis is meditating on the Platonic solids. At least then my mind was doing something it doesn't normally do in ordinary cognition. (I had the best success with tetrahedrons.)

Anyone else in my position? Or has anyone else been in my position and overcome it?

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What's the lost books you'd most have liked to read? For me, it's
>Hecataeus' Periodos ges, precursor to Herodotus
>Alcmaeon of Croton's medical works
>Pherecydes of Syros' Heptamychos
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>>24971869
>Epicurus' Concerning the Gods, On Music, On Nature
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>>24971869
The entirety of the Epic Cycle

Post interesting ways authors died. Jacques Futrelle died on the Titanic, for example.
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From Wikipedia. "On December 7, 1996, Eugene Izzi was found hanged, his body dangling outside the 14th-story window of his writing office in downtown Chicago. When his body was discovered, Izzi was wearing a bulletproof vest. In his pockets, investigators found brass knuckles, a can of "disabling spray" (likely mace or pepper spray), and a computer disc containing an unfinished manuscript."
He was the author of hard-boiled, noir thrillers, considered Andrew Vachss a blood brother.
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>>24970495
>his death in Paris the following year
Holy shit, how do you fuck up killing yourself that badly?
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>>24971765
>>24972099
I think /lit/ would like Silva
>All his life, José Asunción Silva was madly in love with a woman he could not have. His love for her is rumored to be the inspiration for several of his poems. He pined for her and wrote about his pain over and over again. In 1891, the love of his life passed away. The death is said to be the inspiration behind José Asunción Silva’s most famous poem, Nocturno:

>[...]
>And your shadow
>Languid, delicate;
>And my shadow,
>Sketched by the white moonlight's ray
>Upon the solemn sands
>Of the path, were joined together,
>As one together,
>As one together,
>As one together in a great single shadow.—

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>>24970844
> yo no puedo seguir viviendo con esta caspa.
I doubt he killed himself because he had dandruff. Is it some slang that's not in the dictionary?
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>>24972215
I'm not sure, the closest to current usage is maybe "irritation" and he meant misery and was hoping for Pasteur to drop antidepressants or something. It is also possible that he meant some veneral disease or general skin rash. One this latter options, most likely

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what are some books where I can learn about occult rituals and stuff across the world? maybe mainly in western countries?
I want to learn more about magic and shit because sometimes I see media reference some wacky rituals
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>>24972300
I just think it's metal \m/
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>>24972300
>t. occultist trying to make himself sound harmless
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>>24972092
It gets a little less exciting once you learn about it. I have developed a certain aversion to the Judaic and Egyptian and even Greek influences present in what they call 'modern magic'. It's very kitschy and it feels divorced from the human element, not because it's unchristian and muh demonic, but because it's not speaking to any truth the way magic is supposed to. It's not magical, so to speak.
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>>24972317
Just study field theory and math. Sigil shit is mostly larp
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>>24972092
The basis for a lot of occult books is Agrippa's The Occult Philosophy, but the book is massive.
I'd recommend you to go for something that has to do with folk magic first, like picrel.

No one on this board has anything interesting or useful to say. There’s nothing to be gained from reading the your posts. No books I haven’t heard of, and no unique insights I can’t find elsewhere.

I guess it’s just in your nature to drive away any actual discussion in favor of shitflinging and circlejerking the same 5 topics over and over. Bunch of bitter losers that fancy themselves fart huffing elitists.
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>>24972297
Either contribute or leave.
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>>24972297
ChurchofBedrock.aternos.me
Minecraft Server
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>>24972297
What exactly are you adding to the conversation, because it seems like you're just whining like a little bitch.
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>>24972305
>deep fried
All of it.
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>>24972297
>There’s nothing to be gained from reading the your posts. No books I haven’t heard of, and no unique insights I can’t find elsewhere.
You just reached the level of culture of the average /lit/izen (which is low), and now rightly see that this place has nothing to offer (anymore). That and also the fact that over the past 10 years this website has been invaded by normalfags.

You might still come here hoping to recreate those experiences of coming across esoteric books/knowledge/topics like when you were new to /lit/erature. You have also probably matured from wanting to flex your knowledge at random internet strangers. Therefore it's time to realize that you should focus on reading more books instead of ever wasting time on this board again. The bibliography section of books are all the recs you need.

Happy New Year.

What do you think of Simone Weil's Christianity?
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>>24971883
I mostly think of her hairy dork cooch
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>>24971883
an invention made by catholics to downplay the paganism of her thought
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>>24971883
She looks like the kind of girl who would rim my arsehole.
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>>24971883
She's extremely clever, intellectually honest, with a slight poetical tendency, so she became my entry point in christianity, despite me trying to get into it for a long time.
I'm not christian nor anything, but she was the first to show me, and maybe make me feel, the beauties of this particular faith.
Emotionnally and intellectually, I found her works the easiest stepping stone into christianity for non-believiers, but maybe it just clicked for my particular mind at this particular moment.

My second important author, and I mention it since it felt a bit the same.way to me, was Jacques Ellul. "The subversion of christianity" was enlightening and made me more confident in christianity, like Weil, and unlike more classical authors.

Weil is a non-baptized catholic, Ellul is a protestant, but I found the truths they were trying to express and convey were close, and had in common their detachment from the organized, socially ruling religion christianity has become.
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Literally who?

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It's that time of year again!
Vote for which books you wish to see on this year's top 100 chart. You can vote for as many books as you want. If there are any books not on the list that you wish to vote for, request the author and title ITT and they will be added. Responses can be changed after submitting.
Voting closes on the New Year, after which will be the tiebreaker poll. To prevent spamming, a Google account is required to vote, but will not be collected or stored.
Vote here:
https://forms.gle/LqHa5xS1q5CVikem6
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>>24969550
Bible is hard
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Please add:
Bonjour Tristesse (Francoise Sagan)
Bowling Alone (Robert D Putnam)
Fooled by Randomness (Nassim Nicholas Taleb)

Oh and the list should have included MUCH more non fiction books like scientific treaties, though we all know STEMfags rarely if never read books, they read papers and use other mediums to gain knowledge
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>>24970579
>>24970533
Kek
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>>24971048
Added
>the list should have included MUCH more non fiction books like scientific treaties
Added Hippocrates, Galen, Archimedes, Ptolemy, Copernicus, William Harvey, William James, Freud, Einstein, Keynes, Alfred Marshall, and Henry George.
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>>24962296
Why Joseph Smith? That's not the claim

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So what did everyone get for Christmas?

picrel is the kindle book hauls I got, plus I got 125 dollars in Barnes & Noble credits, which I'm probably to use to get some Marx, Smith, Hegel, and Tocqueville and maybe others, possibly a history of China or something. I also got tons of coffee, some food items and a few articles of clothing. more to come.
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>>24971302
I've read the Shadows of Carcosa collection, be prepared for disappointment with about half the stories. Luckily it includes The White People which is peak.
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>>24970926
This book, a book voucher and other non /lit/ items.
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>>24971873
I wanted that Shelby Foote since two Christmases ago
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>>24971881
*peak patrician zoomer
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>>24971755
I hate those Pynchon covers

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>decide to finally "start with the Greeks"
>the very American translator spends eighty pages of his introduction to this grandfather of all literature spoiling the story ahead and explaining the themes explored therein as if I'm retarded
Why do they do this?
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>He didn't skip the introduction
Why the FUCK do people ever read the fucking introduction?
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Start with the Peano Axioms
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how the fuck am i supposed to start with the greeks if i only had latin lessons and failed even those horribly?
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>>24966613
Always skip the introduction.
Read the translator's note if you wish.
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>>24966634
Yes, you're supposed to learn Ancient Greek and Classical Latin like all the literati prior to 1900s.

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what was the best book you read this year?
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>>24972348
>It's clearly Jewish literature because that's what it is by definition
Ok, let me make myself more clear.
I don't talk about Jewish literature in the broader sense, I'm talking about the Avot specifically, a tractate that is very much sui generis.
>Talmud
That's probably because it is built upon the Mishnah structure (and contents).
It also adds a lot of stuff from other sources too, like the Tosefta.
The Talmud is at the end of the day a commentary on previous halakhic works, of course it's not gonna be awfully compiled.
It's a different matter from the text it is commenting upon.
The Mishnah was both the commentary and the formalization of what came before. I don't think there are previous sources for Hillel's opinions, for example.
The Mishnah had way more freedom in its systematizing efforts than the Talmud.

I'd recommend you to read a couple Wikipedia articles (at least) before going into Hillel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zugot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tannaim

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>>24972380
Okay, so your initial comment was saying you just didn't like how the book was laid out then. Okay.
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>>24972363
>Surah of the Cow
What were they thinking?
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>>24972383
Basically that.
The Mishnah is a nightmare to read from cover to cover, though if you've already read some Talmud it shouldn't come to you as a suprise.
Happy reading.
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>>24972388
Ah, okay. Sorry, I guess we were just talking past each other. 4chan probably isn't the best place to talk about these kinds of topics lol. I'm fairly well versed in both Talmud and Mishna, sorry if our exchange seemed off. Have a good one.

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Is "Show, Don't Tell" good advice for writers?
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>>24965872
>>24972217
This and this.

Show don't tell is good advice for beginners who have no fucking clue what they're doing and can't write a scene where stuff happens with characters. Sort of like "don't use adverbs" is good advice for people who write like this >>24972218
But when autistic morons take this advice too literally, as if it's the key to success, they in for a rude awakening. No. Having literally zero adverbs in your story won't make it successful or a good read. No. Showing every single thing regardless of how unimportant it is will not make your story a hit.
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>>24964161
>Aaron stood still, eyes wide open
>Daniele sat on her bed, knees to chest, alone
>Carl smiled
>Kashvi frowned, grunted, squatted, and shat on the carpet
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>>24972342
Hey now, that last one is GRRM not SK
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>>24964161
this is 8th grade essay advice
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>In the evening R. reads to us from Carlyle, about the women’s uprising led by Maillard. In this remarkable description R. once again points out that Carlyle never introduces his people with speeches or allows them to talk; he shows their acts, and in that way reveals their characters to us.
t. Cosima Wagner

>it's just screenwriting advice bla bla
it's the fundamental quality of good poetry, no abstract info, no "concepts", everything as vivid as possible. Ideally you "reveal something general through something special" (t. Schiller)


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