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Only in America, Rabbi Golden, do these peasants, our mothers, get their hair dyed platinum at the age of sixty, and walk up and down Collins Avenue in Florida in pedalpushers and mink stoles—and with opinions on every subject under the sun. It isn’t their fault they were given a gift like speech—look, if cows could talk, they would say things just as idiotic. Yes, yes, maybe that’s the solution then: think of them as cows, who have been given the twin miracles of speech and mah-jongg. Why not be charitable in one’s thinking, right, Doctor?
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>>24688308
Typical

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Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

>Previous:
>>24668507

>Thread Question:
Are there any worthwhile novel novel to comic adaptations or vice versa?
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>>24688191
I've read first law, I want something grittier like Prince of Thorns, I'm fascinated by its sheer violence
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>>24686954
it's absolute bullshit, don't take it at full value. You can see there some masterpieces so it should give you a hint
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>>24688696
If you want violence and edge, Malazan, Prince of Nothing or Red Rising.
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>>24688609
I've read Les Xipéhuz recently. I found it a bit disappointing when the super enlightened protagonist showed up, but maybe you'll like it better. L'Ève future. Moxon's Master. The Terror of Blue John Gap. A bit later, but there's The House on the Borderland.
I'm also planning to read Etidorhpa which seems to b e19th century sci-fi, sort of.
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Pick my next book, friends. Soldier of the Mist or Dying Earth.

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"Anomaly" edition

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Please limit excerpts to one post.
Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.
Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.
If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.
Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.
(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)

Simple guides on writing:

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>>24688273
>Is there a directory of artists for hire?
If only it was that easy.
You have to crawl artstation and twitter to find artists you like and hope they're taking commissions (most don't)
Like >>24688309 said, talented artists don't need to debase themselves and deal with the drooling, retarded public, so they only accept lucrative and consistent jobs with companies or other professionals
The rare few who do take commissions charge quite a lot and probably aren't the top, top talent, though there are definitely some very good ones out there if you look
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>>24688494
Your meme has been stolen for the glory of the Holy Atlantean Empire.
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>>24688491
I was just about to post this. Didn’t even consider that. It’s fuggin BookTok. Unbelievable.
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>>24688509
>Unbelievable.
BookTok is absurdly, obscenely huge and the biggest source of traffic for books these days unironically so it's kinda funny you forgot about it
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>>24688624
Is it all smut and Twilight werewolf handmaids tail shit?

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The midwit:
>"It's just escapist wackiness. Hysterical realism."
The actual intellectual:
>"He's the only author capable of properly exploring the philosophical consequences of technology and modernity, from V. to Rainbow to Bleeding Edge."
It's that simple.
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>>24686914
No, the Y is long.
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>>24686914
That's how he says it himself
https://youtu.be/QcYXWfGt7DY
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>>24686222
[embed]https://youtu.be/QcYXWfGt7D[/embed]
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>>24687492
Yes, because he'd pronounce it correctly and not make a joke. Good eye.
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>>24686222
The crying of lot 49:
It's just escapist wackiness. Hysterical realism

Now that the dust has settled (lol), is it worth reading?

Are the sequels worth reading also?
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I liked it but went off the rails a bit.
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>>24688490
*the sequels went off the rails a bit
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>>24688419
Dune is absolutely worth reading even by itself and the series is nice because there's a few places in the series you can just stop at.
If you liked Dune you can read Messiah which is basically just a big epilogue of Dune.
If you liked Messiah then read Children but I found it to be a slog but God Emperor makes up for it and ends the main series.
Then unless you really really like Herbert you can skip the last 2 because they're the first two parts of a separate (but still in-universe) trilogy that he died before finishing.
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>>24688549
this
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>>24688549
>the first two parts of a separate (but still in-universe) trilogy that he died before finishing.

I mean his son did finish it based on his notes, although he split it into two books. They’re the only two books by Brian Herbert that are worth reading. Hunters of Dune and Sandworms of Dune.

If God is eternally complete and self-sufficient, what motivation could there possibly be for creating a universe? Does creation imply a "need" or "desire" within God?
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>>24688260
we can survive without consuming each other
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>>24687736
To share his glory with created beings that wouldn't be able to experience it otherwise.
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>>24688727
alright bud. stop eating and tell us how it goes, then
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>>24687745
>he doesn't understand teleology
>he doesn't understand cosmology
>he doesn't understand morality
>he doesn't understand rationality
>he doesn't understand
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>>24687775
Proof >>24687745

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I keep seeing people talk about Postmodernism in relation to literary analysis, especially Pynchon, but I don't get it. Is it just a pretentious way of saying "words can mean anything you want"? It seems like a total meme. Help a brainlet out.
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>>24687795
Bateman. Batman isn't nearly psychotic enough.
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>>24686201
Or are you frustratingly expressing your latent homosexuality?
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>>24687823
Which stems from what Lyotard called the loss of faith in grand narratives. Life doesn't have all the answers, and there isn't necessarily one correct way to act or observe or live, so this reflects in the writing as questioning the premises of storytelling and the moral frameworks that were in place still in modernist writing.
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>>24686170
Fiction that serves primarily as commentary
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>>24687897
huh?

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I finished the Aenid, what now?
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>>24685967
>I finished the Aenid, what now?
Dario Fo, Peter Weiss, Bertold Brecht.

Skip shakespeare, he's for losers.
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>>24685967
Theogony
Metamorphoses
Argonautica
The Wisdom of the Ancients
Bible (KJV)
Divine Comedy
Orlando Furioso
Jerusalem Delivered
Paradise Lost
Le Morte d'Arthur
Faerie Queene
Moby-Dick
Lord of the Rings
Complete Works of Brandon Sanderson
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>>24687733
>shakespeare
bloom said he invented the human
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whose translation is the closest to pope's iliad and odyssey? dryden sounds pretty good but I'm wondering if I should check out anybody else
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>>24687733
vile and sickening.

>>24685967
now you go backwards to the bronze age. in addition to the chart picks you'll need to read jacobsen's and foster's anthologies of sumerian and akkadian poetry.

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So when a Greek god does x, am I supposed to read it as a poetical way of saying a character doing x?
>Paris giving the golden apple to Venus over Minerva and Juno is his choosing Love over Wisdom and Power
>Juno helping the Greeks is them restoring the marriage between Helen and Menelaus
>Ulysses saved by Minerva is him being saved by his Wisdom
>Venus telling Cupid to shoot Dido is Aeneas charming her
>Juno telling the Furies to hunt Turnus is his rage for his nation to be usurped by Aeneas, who gets away with it with his Charm
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>>24688112
Odysseus used wisdom to run faster and make Ajax slip and fall face first into a pile of dung?
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>>24688286
The wise Odysseus avoids the dung while the dumb musclehead Ajax doesn't
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>>24688112
Depends the book,context, author, period...
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>>24688293
This was lesser Ajax, and in the wrestling immediately before the race Odysseus is said to have used his cunning, with no mention of Athena aiding him, to better grapple greater Ajax to a stalemate.
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>>24688112
>>24688254
You're just touching on Plato's critique of Homer in the Republic and Ion.

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I think litrpgs are silly garbage
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There's nothing wrong with silly literature.
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>>24688109
Can I get a working definition of litrpgs? What makes them distinct from fantasy?
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>>24688530
They include explicit leveling mechanics and "player" stats, and are generally written by amateurs who've never read a book with prose like a 5th grader.
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>>24688537
So basically bad Isekai
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>>24688741
"bad" is a little redundant here, but yes

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what lit should i consume in preparation for halloween?
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>>24687439
A Night in the Lonesome October
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>>24687707
i'm not 6 but i do like goblins
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>>24687439
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The October Country by Ray Bradbury
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>>24687439
The Bloody Chamber

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Post your own work and critique others. Or just talk about poetry more generally and share poems you like.
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>>24686396
In de zeven zeeen zal ik zoeken
naar de diepste waarheid
en het zuiverste geloof

tot ik elke dag heb leren vissen
en niet meer verdrink
in de storm die mij bedroog


I typed it into a Nokia phone while on a bike when I was 15. I think it's the only thing I've written that felt worth preserving. I sent it to my mother. She is pisces (vissen). She also is the storm. She liked it. I don't think she got it. Though I don't think I did back then, either.
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>>24684315
>>24686403
I interpreted it as the night being warbled too by drunks, so both clear and not clear, in the way wodka makes people blurry, even if itself it is clear.

>>24685703
Isn't it sometimes worth pointing out which of the two it is and why? It's the clash of perspectives that makes communication interesting, isn't it?
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I wandered alone through the crumbling stone.
A shadow that roams.
My people are gone, yet my spirit lives on.
All that remains is empty, a stain.
In the streets, in the towns all the people are brown.
An Empire in rubble, no fighting, no struggle.
All that's left of Old England; a puddle.
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Sleeper

Shimmer and awake my love,
the surf too cold for waking.
Manic from the high dream,
the dreaming too bold to touch.
You the arbiter, lovely and ever-fair
have seen my swelling fruits.

The seeming to hold so tender
and the cold lies bitter on the ground.

And the cold lies bitter on the ground.
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>>24688397
I don't get the "my spirit lives on". I don't know why, but that bit seems out of sync with the rest of it. Lovely last 2 lines though.

>>24688557
>You the arbiter, lovely and ever-fair
have seen my swelling fruits.

She saw your balls?

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is owning a wordsworth edition a humiliation ritual
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>>24688660
>better than 99% of ai slop
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>>24688660
This AI shit goes deep
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real
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>>24688636
those covers look fine aside from the unreadable title
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>>24688636
these look alright. the bad ones were the old ones.

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How did dostoevsky become a mind virus?
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>>24681512
I'm 28 too and am skinnyfat NEET, and I do nothing all day but post on imageboards
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>>24681512
His works appeal to those who desire to wallow in their own degradation, because what he writes about is wallowing in degradation.
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His works appeal to those who do not want to wallow in suffering, because he shows them a way out. Those who try to stifle him are trying to suffocate you and,
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>>24688723
.. ultimately, trying to kill you
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>>24681512
I actually really felt that with this clip of him putting his head against Dostoevsky's book. As if praying for salvation to escape from the clip. If he wasn't reading the P&V translation maybe there would even be some hope for him.

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>>24688536
there was a slight vibe shift when when trump won with the second time with the popular vote.
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>>24688477
>be me
>on date
>8/10 not bad
>instant spaghetti
>she leaves
>but the data said this was more likely to be a green flag
>mfw
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>>24687499
>change research
>formed by a democrat party operative and some tech bro from san francisco
yeah i'm sure this is unbiased
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>>24688477
it means you arent using an iphone
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>>24687661
Yes.


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