Skip one of these and you turn out a complete retard.
>>24695038This is my trivium in three books guide.>GrammarChicago Guide to Grammar, Usage, and Punctuation>LogicThe Book of Proof>RhetoricParadise Lost
>>24696103The grammar in the Trivium is Latin and Greek.
>>24696129The grammar is for whatever language you're speaking or writing.
>>24696163Which grammar is? For the Trivium the grammar is Latin and Greek. I looked up your book and it's about English. Also grammar in the past was more of a philosophical subject, with stuff like what you see in picrel.That's from this book: https://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00wattHere's another old book:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summa_Grammatica
>>24695038>caring about grammer or rhetoriclol pea brained op back at it
Is Proust worth reading? What will I get out of it?
>>24696214I haven't read Proust, but I think you can expect a whole heck of a lot of words.
She’d be regarded higher than Joyce had she been a man.
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>>24695853woolfbrosnot like this
>>24695701Flannery OConnor's great. All her short stories are good and Wise Blood is a classic. The Violent Bear It Away feels a little serious and try-hard, but I may just need to reread on that. Margaret Yourcenar's good. Clarice Lispector. Wuthering Heights is a good book, so is Emma. Women can write great books, but rarely can they maintain or elevate after a plateau. Even rarer still are the true experimental women. Gertrude Stein was also an old lesbian btw, which translates from modern femalese to eunuchess. Thus freeing her brain up for poetic play and critical thought.
>>24695701Wuthering heights is a legitimate contender for goat. Has a very universal quality to it. I recommend the bataille essay on it as additional readAusten to this day is the author I think came closest to writing perfect novels. You will breeze through them and while they probably won't rock your wolrd I guarantee you'll have a good timeFrankenstein is overrated, people especially overstate its role in creating sci-fi, but it is still a good book and especially enjoyable if you are into nothing litStein is a must read if you are interested in modernismI have only read beloved by Morrison but I really liked it, though if you found Woolf too cunty I can imagine her rubbing you the wrong way as wellThere are several female authors I love but they are from my country and idk which ones are available in translation: Elsa Morante, Elena Ferrante, Goliarda Sapienza, Cristina Campo, Dolores Prato, Anna Maria OrteseYou should still give an actual shot at Woolf, especially the waves and to the lighthouse
>>24695701>An excerpt of Mrs. Dalloway that I found is also subpar. Granted, I haven't properly read anything by her yet, but the anon that said she's the 'token woman' seems to be right - at least based on an internet search about her.You know nothing. Go read her essay "The Death of the Moth" or "On Being Ill" and then shut the fuck up.
Was Voltaire just the Jon Stewart/Bill Maher of his day?
>>24696156You think anyone will care about midwit Jon Stewart and slightly smarter midwit Bill Maher in 300 years?
more like Hitchens
>>24696175only because television is a format that is news of the week type stuff.
>>24696156>>24696180Well at any rate, unlike these people he was not in the little hat tribe.
>>24696202All atheists are spiritually Jewish, because they hate Christ in the same manner as the Jews.
Why did we stop liking it?
Artificial hype. Solenoid was made out to be an instant pomo classic from a writer who would no doubt get his Nobel soon, and oh everyone who reads it agrees that it's a masterpiece, there's nothing else like it, he's the greatest living Romanian writer, and you better get on the S.S. Cartarescu before it leaves without you, so you can have "discovered" him before the fame, and etc. Basically he was a totem for people who were too young to have witnessed Infinite Jest's release, and who wanted so so badly their own modern landscape-shifting classic of literature.Then the hype wore off and we realized it was just mediocre Kafka worship.
>>24695343I was trying to find this image lol. Amazing stuff.
>>24695294Discount Murnane
>>24695294Anons who liked it moved to r/truelit
I'm like halfway through neuromancer at this point and this book fucking sucks dick. I've noticed something with these alleged classic books that started new genres, they all suck. Lord of the Rings is boring as hell. Neuromancer sucks dick. Starship Troopers was literally just Heinlein shitting out half assed political theories (which he completely contradicts in Stranger in a Strange Land, a gay hippie fantasy). All of these so called classics are garbage. And no, it's not just because I don't like the genres they created or whatever. There's plenty of sci-fi and fantasy books I do like. But most of the classics seem pretty bad.
>>24694900Try C.J. Cherryh
>>24696157She does high fantasy and hard science fiction better than any of the so-called "masters" of those genres, has unbelievably strong characterization, unparalleled worldbuilding, actually really interesting and creative stories, and always writes strong endings. She's a smart lady.
>>24692929>All of these so called classics are garbage. And no, it's not just because I don't like the genres they created or whatever. There's plenty of sci-fi and fantasy books I do like. But most of the classics seem pretty bad.most of them are objectively bad (no real point in denying this) but starkly delineated the genre's boundaries, aims, and possibilities
>>24696162>furriesHow much yiffing is there?
Is The Wheel of Time worth reading?How self-contained are the books?Does the story really needed all those books to be told?
>>24694182Is it worth reading? It is worth reading if you are looking for a long fantasy series that doesnt deviate from the comfort zone too much while still being individual and interesting, and with a large cast of characters that grow on you over time. Otherwise, skip it.Are they self contained? It is a series my dude.Does it need that many books? Definitely not.
>>24694182No. It's a mix of LOTR and Dune with nothing that made either of those works great. Extremely bloated and low quality. It will be forgotten once gen X/millenial nostalgia dies out.
>>24694182Yes, its the greatest high fantasy series ever written. The first six books are the best part of it, however.
>>24694182>Is The Wheel of Time worth reading?I have no idea what you deem worthy. But I liked it. I started reading late in life. Wheel of time was like the third series I've ever read, and I really liked it. Now with years of reading experience under my belt, I've only come to appreciate Wheel of Time eve more.>How self-contained are the books?They are not self contained at all. It's one long series.>Does the story really needed all those books to be told?Yes. You will be lost if you skip a book.If you've been researching the series, then you have probably heard that it drags somewhere in the middle.(In the latter half) I used to think that those parts could be edited down. However, upon re-reads, I've come to the realization that the the length doesn't need to be shortened, rather more important events needed to be fleshed out. There are a few story lines that suffer, not because they're too long. But because they're too short. As the author focused too much on inconsequential banter, rather than pushing the narrative along.But I refer to things in books 8 through 11. If you're already in that deep, then chances are you enjoy the story, and are too invested to stop anyway. The dragging books aren't really "bad". Just slow.
>>24696170>upon rereadsThis series is 15 books long and you've read this multiple times? Christ.
Carolingian edition>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·>>24643783>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw>Mέγα τὸ ANE·https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg>Work in progress FAQhttps://rentry dot co/n8nrkoAll Classical languages are welcome.
>>24696100I suppose I just wasn't specific enough in my question.
>>24695999Yes, there is, but I have never met someone who learned to read starting to read day one this way.>>24696105It's called a joke
>>24696168I used to date a boy who did this and he was extremely multilingual.
>>24696100Something I think that is remarkable here is that I used the word "plain" and in your response you put "pure" in quotes even though I never used that word, but if I did, it would totally change the tone and attitude of my initial question, which would make your response make sense. Since it's not at all what I said or intended, your post instead just drips with classicist elitism and physics envy.I was just asking if there was anyone that just publishes the plain text in physical form of a 2000 year old public domain text so that students like me could get physical copies for reading practice. A version with 1/3 of the page being scholarly footnotes that costs $280 doesn't seem to fit that bill somehow. To some people the footnotes might be worth $260, but I would rather have a plain $20 paperback, if only it existed.
I will partially retract, and correct myself, because I looked at Teubner's De Bello Gallico and found it wasn't priced at asinine textbook pricing. I guess they don't rape you on every book. Even so, something like the editio minores is what I meant, i.e. a plain text rather than scholarly version.
is taschen /lit/ or /ic/? Anyway, 4 day sale
>>24696179I know someone who works at Taschen. We went to high school together. It seems like she's doing well. Good for her. I hope she gets free Taschen books. I think she does.
>>24696187keep your minutia to yourself
>>24696189I asked actually
>>24696189I can't be contained.
https://youtu.be/CFLqS1Hu1nYWho was in the wrong here?
>>24696138>video linkNo thanks. /tv/ is that way.
Post your charts and guides with recommendations and reading order, all cores welcome.
>>24694185Is there a guide to Emil Durkheim?
>>24695430Read the NRSVUE
>>24695954>brothers and sistersWoke shit.
>>24695277Lacanian real or Baudrillardian real?
>>24695430New Oxford Annotated Study Bible is your best all-around option. Translation's fine, plenty of material. You can more or less pick whatever "reading guide" you want, it doesn't super matter. There's a few that will take you through the Bible chronologically. If you're a translation stickler (you shouldn't be, I promise you it matters less than you think, but whatever) just get the NIV and the KJV. And by "get" I mean find them online, there's a trillion Christcuck websites dedicated to hosting Bible translations.
What's your favorite erotic literature?
>>24693295I've got church records from my ancestors going back 300 years and most of them had been recorded doing two things:>making booze illegally>fornicationAnd those were obviously just the ones who were caught doing. This is a history of 300 years of my own ancestors who were FUCKING out of wedlock (and making moonshine I guess?) with enough frequency and transparency for the whole congregation to know about it lolI can't provide those records to you at this time just trust me bro
>>24693433Evidence about your particular bloodline is anecdotal at best (your ancestors might have been more promiscuous than normal or have lived in an unusually "lax" part of the world) and of a sample size that isn't nearly large enough to draw any conclusion about the population at large.If anything, it being a big enough deal to have it in the church records is more indicative of how out of the accepted ordinary it was compared to now, where premarital/extramarital sex happens pretty much in the open to the point where everyone who can have it does, and everyone who doesn't is automatically assumed to want it and not being able to have it.Again, I'm not doubting that it happened, but to believe that it happened more than today, I need information about the population at large.
>>24693295"hookup culture" is the same small population of sex addicts musical chair fucking each other with an occasional rebound tourist thrown in. Things are 100% more sexually sterile now than in the past
>>24695234It's the opposite.Virgins and non-sex-havers are tge small bubble you're part of as a 4chan user (even if you have sex), so it seems more normal to be celibate than it would to a normie.>than in the pastIn the recent past, sure.Before modern times? No.
>>24696150It’s actually not Even for most normies it’s a desert out there. Often even for attractive women.
>"Read Nietzsche’s Zarathustra, and his sister’s note about how he wrote it, and am absolutely convinced that he was completely mad when he wrote it, and mad not in a metaphorical sense, but in the straightforward and most exact sense: incoherence, jumping from one idea to another, comparisons with no indication of what is being compared, beginnings of ideas with no endings, leaping from one idea to another for contrast or consonance, and all against the background of the pointe of his madness, his idée fixe, that by denying all the higher principles of human life and thought, he is proving his own superhuman genius. What will society be like if such a madman, and an evil madman, is acknowledged as a teacher?”He's right you know...
>>24695382This, they can only ad hom him>What is this writing?! He is mad, mad I tell you!
>>24695382What truths did he reveal?
>>24695967His madness was pressaged from the first. The hubris in his gaze, his tone ever paroxistic. It crested and crested and he finally broke. Broke down in tears, hugged the horse, straitjacket for the rest of his life.
>>24696018>hugged the horseNever happened
>>24693213He was mad with poetic inspiration. I'm amazed how Nietzsche could make such a long chain of metaphors one after the other from beginning to end. To me he was a poet-philosopher, rather than just a philosopher.
Resources to begin your trad journeyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qP7CnCtkocPost all you gotJordan Peterson gives the big fifteen>Here is a list of books that I found particularly influential in my intellectual development.>Trigger warning: These are the most terrifying books I have encountered.>1. Brave New World – Aldous HuxleyComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>sci-fi and polysci slop top threeYou need to go back.
lol this is some high quality bait
Where do I start with Hindu mythology, /lit/bros?
>>24692577You are not very eurodite. There was a process of greco-isation of roman myth, but they were not the same earlier on.
>>24694848>euroditeI keked. Of course the two were different at one point but all surviving sources of myths are told in a Hellenic framework. Most differences were ritual distinctions from ancient Italic rites
>>24690752I'm reading the Mahabharata now and Bhishima is an incredibly admirable guy.
>>24695207Yukio Bhishima
>>24695207which part are you at now?
