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The gaping hole in his philosophy is the utter lack of engagement with the "Apollonian". Following his line of thought to best disclose Alethiea we may as well go back to mud huffing troglodytes worshiping the great juju up the mountain otherwise we're "enframing" with "metaphysics". I mean even his taste in art is embarrassingly gushy... He really seems to think that simple bongo rhymes are superior to Wagner because they are more "immediate to being". He seems one step away from just becoming an outright primitivist.
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Wagner is, without a doubt, over-intellectualised slop. Thus isn't because his work makes use of theory and sophistication, but because it *only* makes use of theory and sophistication. Well-execution expression of nothing in particular. All craft, no art. In this respect, Ongo Bongo from the depths of the Congo certainly is a greater artist.
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>Non German doesn't understand Heidegger
Many such cases. OP, youre just another casualty.
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>>24716722
I recommend you make more of an effort to get into the spirit of the people you're reading.
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>>24716722
Thread going how you hoped?
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fuck this Nazi bitch
he has absolutely nothing of note to say
just wankery

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>it's ok to have a gay phase as long as you grow up out of it
>but if you don't you, you will end up bitter, poor and diseased
wow
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>>24717524
Based. I face similar internal contradictions and Brideshead was the first work of fiction in a long time to make me feel deeply.

in all honesty I think being gay, and being a gay man specifically, is a very longstanding catholic experience. That’s not meant a slur - I think monasteries, the priesthood etc. were a refuge for a lot of dudes.
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>>24717524
I'm Protestant and straight
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>>24717429
The italian lover of Sebastian's father kinda points out they were kinda gay for each other.
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>>24717724
but that it was a passing schoolboy thing
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>>24717350
To be fair, Charles did just more than trying to convert Julia. He also ruined her life by setting her up with scandals and making her have a divorce. On top, he also ruined his own wife and children in the process.

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What are your thoughts on this short story published in the recent issue of Harper’s Magazine? It’s a short read, less than five minutes.

https://harpers.org/archive/2025/09/girl-talk-weike-wang-story-sauna/

“Girl Talk” by Weike Wang
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>>24717694
Now you’re fucking with me
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>>24716885
Rightoid transgression is shouting JOO TRANNY JOO TRANNY over and over until your voice gives out, leftoid transgression is snarking um ackshually sweetie that's racist, it's all so tiresome and boring
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>>24717718
What about updist and downian transgressions?
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>>24717371
I don't know what discussion you're referencing but from your description is it Mitski's "Best American Girl"?
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>>24717725
Bingo

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>God invented and made the universe — like a man making a picture or composing a tune. A painter is not a picture, and he does not die if his picture is destroyed. You may say, "He's put a lot of himself into it," but you only mean that all its beauty and interest has come out of his head. His skill is not in the picture in the same way that it is in his head, or even in his hands.
but what’s the paint and canvas supposed to be?
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>>24717528
>nothing existed
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>>24717577
Suppose that there once was no thing. No thing was. One can't really picture it, but one can think it. One can contemplate the fact, and indeed one can contemplate this very no-thingness. And in a sense wouldn't this nothing underlie all that is? Wouldn't nothing be the Absolute and all that exists be Contingent? Doesn't existence feel quite arbitrary?
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>>24716890
The answer is the necessary being whose essence is existence, subsistent being itself. The structure of reality is that being uttering its Eternal Word, the Logos, and breathing into creation its Holy Spirit.
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>>24717645
Incredible
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>>24716773
polytheism
>>24716776
pantheism
>>24716829
dualism
>>24717002
dualism
>>24717645
pantheism

you must answer OP without falling into heresy

If you want a long, detailed fantasy series that has tons of lore, monsters, magic, gods and whatnot, you can't beat this. The heroes feel virtuous and the villains make you hate them. 10/10 fantasy series here and there's thirty-two books to delve
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>>24713070
>Did you ever play Myth? It has beautiful animation sequences and a great story,

Never even heard of it, the only Video Game backstories I ever got into were Castlevania and Mortal Kombat, from playing them as a kid. However I wonder if the future for many fantasy authors now is in creating lore and dialogue for Video games like, God of War Ragnorok, and Elden Ring, rather then trying a straight up novel.
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>>24713934
It's great. Written by a university professor, i.e. someone who can actually construct a sentence.
It's not fantasy, however, but science fiction. It's a "planetary romance" inspired by Edgar Rice Burroughs.
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>>24712715
>just read the two books with no Drizzt. The pretty good one thats all Wulfgar, and the one thats all Artemis and Jarlaxe which fucking ruled.
Which two are those?
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>>24717365
I think it's called the Assassins trilogy
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>>24713694
Can you read these in any order?

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"Catzilla" edition

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>>24717458
>it took a near death experience for me to turn my life around and try go completely honest.
Then why you just said " I spent the last week having an affair with my youngest niece"?
I mean, sure you probably went from 0 to 70 or something, but that still sounds off.
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>>24715097
https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
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>>24716980
>>24715154
Okay, how’s this?

https://litter.catbox.moe/ts9q6x75fy6umos6.pdf
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>>24717653
people don't like to click on pdf files, fren
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>>24717716
Goddamnit

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Our time has come, schoppybros.
/lit/ is now a full Schopenhauer board. Only today I read a bunch of schoppy threads. Great!
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>>24717648
People who read his work do!
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>>24717435
Didn't he just rehash what the Indians said?
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>>24717677
No, he read Upanishads in his 30s after the publication of his magnum opus.
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>>24717677
no. However, there are overlaps between Schopenhauer and Buddhism including the idea that desire itself is a cause of suffering and the sentiment that it is better not to have been born in the first place.
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>>24717106
Schop bros need help disputing this. Mostly what this is in reply to, but the post itself contains the problems outlined that I need remedied.
Does Schop still solve hume even tangentially, despite moving away from Kant?

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Write your suicide note with your best prose.
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>>24717421
dis guys suicide note was ruined by autocorrect. talk about getting fucked up the ass by life. lol
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>>24712349
there once was a young man from detroit
who tossed and turned every night
with remorse and regrets
and sorrow for the past
and decided to give up the fight
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I couldn't go anywhere without having to take something ridiculous like 6 urgent shits and I know you all think it's funny and not life destroying and that's why I did this
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>>24707999
509 words of worthless slop
>>24708431
26 words of unfiltered brilliance

Amazing how much more you can do with less if you've got the talent
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>>24713651
Don't get me wrong, I have no delusions I'll ever be anything even in death. All the same though my work and giving form to my characters and their story is more important than my life.

To what extent do you think modern humans are beholden to natural evolution?

By that I mean: natural selection is the process where genetic differences lead to certain individuals being more likely to reproduce, and thus pass on the specific genetic traits that made them more likely to do so, leading to organisms changing over many generations. But for modern humans, there are many factors beyond the purely genetic that determine whether someone reproduces or not, and these factors aren't (necessarily) inherited as genetics are, which would suggest "natural" evolution isn't at play anymore.

Wealth, status, education, occupation, political or spiritual membership and community in general, personality; some of these you could potentially argue can be traced back to purely genetic differences, but many have nothing to do with the material makeup of the person being born, and even larger abstract factors like "the state of the nation's economy" or "the geopolitics of the continent" have an effect on if or when humans reproduce. At that point we are lightyears away from genetics mattering.

Not to mention, if we assume that free will exists, someone who is in the position to could simply choose not to reproduce simply because they can. Is "natural selection" still at play there?

And no, I'm not really interested in how you think your god(s) factor into this.
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>>24714661
Lack of coitus. Freud had a point.
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>>24717234
Unfortunately I'm referring to the retarded personality cult around people like Eliezer Yudkowsky and Scott Alexander rather than the genuine philosophical movement.
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>>24717240
Oh I should have known. Carry on.

But on the topic of mimesis and mimetics what literature is relevant?
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>>24717236
People are more promiscuous nowadays than ever before.
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>>24716532
I meant Lucifarians are the ones who engineered and promulgated this false doctrine under the guise of scientific discovery and enlightenment. Succeeding generations of scientists are oblivious to its true origins and propagate it like useful idiots.

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Τῆς ὀπώρης edition

>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·
>>24669573

>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw

>Mέγα τὸ ANE·
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg

>Work in progress FAQ
https://rentry dot co/n8nrko

All Classical languages are welcome.
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>>24717105
seemed excessive at first but I guess it can be quite useful, is it automatic?
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>>24717105
Wouldn't it be autismus? It's ecce homo, not ecce hominem.
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>>24717105
Anything to avoid reading smoothly.

>>24717425
Aint dat da vocative or sum shiet? Agreed.
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>>24715647
there's more ON poetry than skaldic such

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>>24712136
worst fucking approach imagineable
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>>24717628
ESL detected.

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does /lit/ have an opinion on Johnathan Haidt? I remember him floating around the Sam Harris/Rogan circles a decade ago then vaguely recall falling off for being a junk science charlatan but I still see him pop up in mainstream interviews about cog-sci culture matters.
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Happiness Hypothesis is also very good. It covers the various components (genetics, environment, actions) for achieving the state.
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>>24716985
he is threatening to pseuds who overvalue their metaphysics masturbation
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>>24716985
He just applies Hume to political psychology honestly
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>>24717396
>Would YOU have taken the empty seat in
Yes, city buses are astonishingly safe compared to cars. Much, much, much more likely I'm killed in a car crash while driving alone than killed in a bus crash, and a bus crash is much, much, much more likely than someone stabbing me on the bus
>factor in all that and the probability of being stabbed to death skyrockets
If you vividly imagine someone stabbing you on the bus, it's more likely you'll be scared of it happening, yes
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>>24717411
Guessing you thought Haidt's book was really good

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Books on the future of society and remedies ?
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>>24710088
>Prof
He's an ex-high school teacher who probably got fired for being crazy.
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>>24710231
>namely that Israel would start a war with Iran and drag the US in it.
dude. everyone predicted that.
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>>24710023
He has some incredibly interesting takes on the modern political/social/economic plight of the West, and makes some really thought provoking explanations, theories, and analogies about them that at first might seem very kooky but eventually click in your mind, get stuck in there for a while, and influence your way of looking at things. He’s /ourschizo/, God bless Professor Jiang.
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>>24710860
>Also that there's too many retirees, but also that old people aren't relinquishing their jobs? He just blames too many things on the aging population
Sounds paradoxical but they both could simultaneously be real issues. Just think of it as a large number of Boomers who can fall into either category, hence making things harder for the younger generations in either way.
Since the Boomer generation is so big (that’s why they’re called Boomers, there was a “baby boom” after WW2, or a huge increase in births), you could have a lot of them retiring and hence being difficult/making demands on the economy and Social Security system propping them up, and, if disabled or becoming disabled, on their younger children, or on the nursing homes they’re put into.
And, conversely, on the other hand, since it’s such a big generation, there could also be a bunch of them not retiring, whether in fields like middle and upper management at corporations, or as tenured professors at universities not giving up their posts and contributing to the brutal job market for new professors, etc. Hence also harming the younger generations by making the job market more difficult for them, not freeing up as much space for new talent. If you assume they also tend towards filling the positions of authority in various of these jobs, we can also talk about their hiring practices, perhaps how they make things harder for younger gen’s in that way too. (For instance, seemingly petty small stuff like requiring a bachelor’s degree even for their basic shit office job, when they didn’t necessarily need it, or when in their day college wasn’t as prohibitively expensive and the loans/debt incurred wasn’t so much of a possible fatal albatross around one’s neck.)

You don’t have to view this strictly as a moral criticism of Boomers. According to conventional logic, they can basically either retire, or they can choose to keep working, they have to do one or the other, so it’s hard to blame them for choosing one. But it could still be true that both of these can cause issues, and it’s part of a larger demographic crisis the West is facing. Look at it apart from moral judgment, and just as a description of the state of affairs.
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>>24711505
He's just rehashing Spenglers history of religion then. Dawson and Voegelin are better in that regard

The most tragic figure of the 21st century
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>>24714573
>>24714648
>>24714738
>>24714895
>>24714977
Please check out https://byzantinus.net/ some time, it's a textboard centered around the humanities and you two have an spirit that would very fitting for the site's purpose. It's invite-only but you can get an access code through a faucet right now.
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>>24716741
>It's invite-only but you can get an access code through a faucet right now.
who do you do this and who owns/runs it?
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>>24716705
That’s not it. His thesis, even if it is just restating Hegel, is the main doctrine guiding the post-Cold War West.
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>>24717174
>is the main doctrine guiding the post-Cold War West.
no its not. thats the low IQ think tank take. history ended in the first half of the 19th century. accept it.
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What am I in for?
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>>24716302
girls of all races love it
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>>24715836
A snoozefest, tbqh. Xi is a vastly less interesting thinker than the big-name commies of the past and his system is basically just "im gonna be numba 1 in china and everyone will suck my dikk" but phrased as "the four pillars of society and the three great statements and the seven great political columns of the chinese people will uphold the system of xi jinping thought with chinese characteristics" or some shit.
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>>24715836
Read Wang Huning if you want a real insight into the CCP leadership.
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Xi is a great guy, but I desperately hope he will not be corrupted by Putin's garbage that will be pouring in his ears considering they will be closer now

>" Xi, my friend, if you want to create communism, you must help me bomb random eastern European countries and not accomplish anything. Also don't be mean to Israel :)"
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>>24715836
This bitch gets mogged by Mao. Hardest thing he had to do was do some farm work for a little bit because his dad got dabbed on and then just bureaucrat-maxxed his way to the top. If he loses all his power and somehow gains it back then I will start being impressed by him

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Have you ever read a book that was simply too hard for you? I remember reading The Killer Angels when I was in elementary school and it being just a bit over my head. I think having trouble with that book is part of the reason I never developed an interest in the Civil War.
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>>24717568
don't forget that the people who made this site and are submitting posts to it laughed at trans people committing suicide and harassed other trans people INTO committing suicide
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>>24717643
Every last one of them? Are you sure?
I’d never do that and don’t support that, but I’d probably be a moralfag and submit some tip to that site if someone was glorifying his death openly.
>b-but you guys are supposed to be for free speech and against cancel culture!
I’m not a right winger, I’m not “supposed to be” anything. I just see it’s immoral and nasty to mock his death, and the people mocking it (when they’re not edgy /pol/ chuds) seem like the exact same type of people who’d glorify someone losing their job over the last many years over things like, say, questioning or skepticism of modern transgender ideology, for instance.
The Internet and social media today seems like a cesspool of increasing radicalization, hatred, binary poltical thinking, increasing caricaturization and stereotyping of “the other side”, and hardcore psychological warfare tearing apart Western civilization at the seams. I don’t like edgy /pol/ chuds either, or the type who’d laugh at trans people killing themselves or would want to bully them to death. I think it’s all repulsive.
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>>24717545
Mein Kampf
The thing is that to really understand where Hitler and Germans are coming from, you need an understanding of the history of Germany and Austria in the 19th century. I quit reading it about halfway thru and side quested the history of the region and just never made it back to the book. Pity, I suppose I should get back to it. Spoiler...it's not really that good
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>>24717659
Have any of you lads ever read a book that was simply too hard for you?
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>>24717675
it was a bad idea to start a thread with charlie kirk if you didn't want people discussing charlie kirk

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