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Have you guys read Paradise Lost?
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>>24717815
>paradife loft
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>>24717815
I've read it a dozen time.
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>>24717853
I often read old fonts such as this in this way. It's kinda comfy somehow. But you can also train yourself to read it as an "s".
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>>24717815
I had to read part of it in high school
It was good. One of these days I might read all of it
Not sure what to think of it though. It's like a fanfiction of Genesis, right?
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>>24717898
Mostly Satan's origin story + the story of Adam and Eve, and I really like how Milton fleshed them out. In book 10 (books 11 and 12 in later editions) he summarizes the rest of the Bible in a rush, and I thought that part was a slog.

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Notable Authors: H.P. Lovecraft, Thomas Ligotti, Robert Aickman, Clive Barker, Edgar Allan Poe, Algernon Blackwood, Shirley Jackson, Richard Matheson, Stephen King, William Peter Blatty, Robert Bloch, Bram Stoker, Mary Shelley, Edogawa Rampo, Arthur Machen, Ambrose Bierce, M.R. James, Sheridan Le Fanu, Brian Evenson, William Hope Hodgson, Clark Ashton Smith, Frank Belknap Long, Ramsey Campbell, Caitlin R Kiernan, Laird Barron, Jack Ketchum, Stefan Grabinski, Peter Straub, and many many more

Discuss your favorite horror tales in both short and long form. What have you read lately? What do you want to read? What's a work of horror fiction or an author who you want to recommend?
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>>24717321
Wicker Man created this genre
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>>24717243
Stephen king’s number one good boy over here
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Which one do I read next? The ones marked in red I've read. I'm thinking of Pickman's Model.
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>>24717886
Ibid
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So I just finished The White People. Overall I liked it but it was definitely very obtuse and mystical. Did Machen really deliberately include obscure esoteric references in the story? I feel like there's a connection with the spiritualism that was popular in the in 19th century. Are there direct allusions to alchemy and other magickal sciences that even the more-than-average reader wouldn't understand? And further, this makes me wonder about what kind of person Machen was. Was he in the Golden Dawn by any chance?
>>24717891
Thanks bro I think I'll do that.

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My dad bought pic related for my birthday when I was seven and I've been passionate about history ever since, and reading ancient Greek historians got me into Greek literature and philosophy.
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I only goon to incest porn
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These books turned me into an orientalist/slavophile

Torch Edition

Stubbed >>24709839

>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>Advice for Noobs!

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Don't use adverbs or adjectives. Only use precise nouns and verbs.
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>>24717900
he said calmly
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>>24717900
he proclaimed with authority and conviction
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>synopsis apes the style of ye olde classics
>injected with a list of memes and buzzwords to sell the story
there's such a thing as mixed communication, and this is it.
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>>24717900
I sometimes inject the most egregious adverb I can think of where it's not even needed just out of spite, the author contemplated retrospectively.

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This is Schopenhauer's influence just on the surface:

>Those who have cited his influence include philosophers such as Friedrich Nietzsche[26] and Ludwig Wittgenstein,[27] scientists such as Erwin Schrödinger and Albert Einstein,[28] psychoanalysts such as Sigmund Freud[29] and Carl Jung, writers such as Leo Tolstoy,[30] Herman Melville,[31] Thomas Mann, Hermann Hesse,[32] Machado de Assis,[33] Jorge Luis Borges, Marcel Proust,[34] and Samuel Beckett[35] as well as composers such as Richard Wagner,[34] Johannes Brahms,[34] Arnold Schoenberg[34][36] and Gustav Mahler.[34]

>Influenced
Anjos, Assis, Bahnsen, Beckett, Bergson, Borges, Brahms, Brouwer, Campbell, Einstein[9], Fet, Cioran, Dilthey[10], Freud, Gray[11], Hardy, Hartmann, Hesse, Horkheimer, Huysmans, Jung, Reve, Kraus[12], Ludovici[13], Ligotti, Mahler, Mainländer, Majorana[14], Mann, Maupassant, Michelstaedter, Nietzsche, Proust, Rank, Reve, Rilke, Ryle[15], Santayana, Schlick[16], Shaw, Schoenberg, Schrödinger, Solovyov, Spengler, Tolstoy[17], Vaihinge,r Volkelt, Wagner, Weininger, Wittgenstein, Zapffe, Zola.
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>>24716366
I'd imagine it exists outside of human consciousness, if we're going by a realist interpretation of Schopenhauer's doctrine
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>>24717616
Like I get why Jews are hated but whats the point of being obsessed like this?
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>>24716318
Schopenhauer is also a transcendental metaphysician though
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>>24717627
That's true. Pseuds I should say
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>>24715938
See >>24717867

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Have you ever read a book that was simply too hard for you? I remember reading The Killer Angels when I was in elementary school and it being just a bit over my head. I think having trouble with that book is part of the reason I never developed an interest in the Civil War.
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>>24717659
Have any of you lads ever read a book that was simply too hard for you?
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>>24717675
it was a bad idea to start a thread with charlie kirk if you didn't want people discussing charlie kirk

blood meridian
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>>24717545
I'm ESL and I tried Ulysses in English this summer. Had to drop it at Aeolus
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>>24717545
Simulacra And Simulation by Jean Baudrillard literally made me feel like a fucking retard trying to read it
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>>24717568
Holy fuck rightoids are same as SJWs. These are same people who celebrate when trannies commit suicide and cheered Derek Chauvin. I remember all of the memes when Christchurch shooting happened.

Is there anything inherently wrong with vividly describing natural bodily functions other than that they might offend the puritanical sensibilities of some readers?
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>>24717821
You like girls pooping don't you squidward.
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>>24717821
Provide context and an example.
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>>24717821
No

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I have out grown fiction whats next?
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>>24717871
Outgrow posting maybe?

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What do we think of "La Comédie humaine"?

As a social retard, I need to learn. I got no empathy but I'm too much of a retard to be a machiavellian dude
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>>24717226
Of course nobody does, but I'm pretty sure lots of people in here read at least part of La Vie Parisienne.

I enjoyed Illusions Perdues, as sad as it is.
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>>24717230
I have only finished Eugenie Grandet and Pere Goriot myself. Both works are greats in their own right, but I feel inclined to prefer the former.
I specially like his reflective tone on changing social structures. It makes one think about how much this world has changed since the 18th-19th century bourgeoisie paradigm shift
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I've only read Goriot and I only really like Rastignac's med school buddy and the Fag Prison King. Was a good novel.
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honore de balzac

lol, how does God keep coming up with these bangers.
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>>24717131
Haven't read much out of it but from what little I did read I concluded that it is like reading Buffon's natural history
You will gain very little if you read it to learn, as information about common animals is all stuff you already would know and there are better texts about them out there anyway, while what is written about exotic animals is laughably inaccurate
Still it is super fun to read about his description a crocodile, especially accompanied by illustrations, as it ends up being zany and weird and novel in a way, you just have to get past the chapter on the household cat first
Likewise everything surrounding Vatrin is a joy to read even though he more often than not seems closer to a weird fantastical reptilian creature than an actual realistic human, while it will be much less fun to read about Goirot and the tired archetype of the vexed father sacrificing everything for his ungrateful spawn. Just read King lear instead if you are interested in that

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Hey /lit/ i wanted to know what your favourite book is because I'm curious

My favourite book is Alice in wonderland and Alice in wonderland through the looking glass
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>>24717857
Nta, but those books are insanely creative and fun
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>>24717857
i think because it was just super wonky and nothing made sense to her and everything she did didnt make sense to anything else both the books are complete nonsense in such a percurlier way up is down left is right
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Why did he hate manlets?
THE MANLET

by: Lewis Carroll (1832-1898)

N stature the Manlet was dwarfish–
No burly, big Blunderbore he;
And he wearily gazed on the crawfish
His Wifelet had dressed for his tea.
"Now reach me, sweet Atom, my gunlet,
And hurl the old shoelet for luck;
Let me hie to the bank of the runlet,
And shoot thee a Duck!"
...
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>>24717857
Never read them but I like cute little girls and tried to play as little girls in video games; something about the smallness of girls made everything more terrifying. Actions I consider inconsequential become calculated risks for girls at least where I live. Perhaps my perverse thoughts impose fear upon them but seeing a cute girl with her parents always brings a sense of calm to me. Imaging the deciet and ill intentions others would do unto little girls is horrifying.
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>>24717877
great now im fucked up for life thank you for leaving your favourite fucking book

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Post your own work and critique others.
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>>24716407
This is dogshit. Fucking embarrassing drivel.
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Rum tum tum and a bottle of cum!
Rindle dindle dee and a thimble of wee!
Dum thum doo and a bucket of poo!
Siddle diddle dot and a goblet of snot!
Lum whum dom and a bowl of vom!
Niddle biddle fool and a spoon of grool!
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Etsy witches really killed Charlie Kirk
lmao lol jk
But maybe not, you do your own research.
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copacabana777
lovely casino, a slice of heaven
friendly atmosphere, swear to god
find me dere, i cut dis cord
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bump

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Please help me ascend to pure hyperreal shizo enlightenment. I must lose my mind.
My interests are twofold:
SIGNALS. The utter, endless inundation of images and signals from social media makes my mind lurch and reel. An example is with Charlie Kirk's death today, it's like kicking a hornets nest. A man's death, his sacrifice on the alter of social media summons a frenzy of signals and ideologies, a cacophony of hatred and vitriol. The words, the content no longer matter, it's just injecting emotions into others. (not saying he wasn't a part of it but that's not the point. The phenomena is what I'm after).
LANGUAGE. The penultimate artifice. Do you ever notice in your speech or in your thoughts how words you use have utterly locked you into your worldview until the moment you noticed them? Words inform how I process and categorize phenomena, and this feels more and more evil to me. I want out of language.
Books or authors I've read or am in the process of reading so far that at least touch on these themes include the following, but I need more:
-1984
-The Medium and the Light - Marshal McLuhan
-Simulacra and Simulation - Jean Baudrillard
-Industrial Society and Its Future - Ted Kaczynski
-The Technological Society - Jacques Ellul
-Nietzsche
-Jung
-Mediations on the Tarot - Valentin Tomberg
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>>24714794
You Will Never Be A Schizo
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Illuminatus! And ego death medidation.
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>>24714794
>>24716229
Take the RAW pill and read Prometheus Rising and Cosmic Trigger while on weed and acid. Then you are ready to read P.D. Ouspensky's In Search Of the Miraculous and Itzhak Bentov's Stalking the Wild Pendulum: On the Mechanics of Consciousness. After that you see through the matrix.
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>>24714840
/thread
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>>24714794
Curious, why do you want to ascend to pure hyperreal schizo enlightenment?

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>inb4: "t.ranny, troon/trooner/pooner, worthless moid/scrote kissless virgin incel loser, seething (((christcuck))), &c."
I'm sure what you have to say is just as helpful as whatever comes out of this retard's mouth, holy shit.
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>>24715658
I'm not a Jew let alone Israeli, what was your point?
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>>24716630
I'm not transsexual, much less a "trans-identified male" that Feminists like Rowling use all the time, which is basically just plain misandry with the inclusion of deluded freak who believe they are of the opposite sex.
>>24715928
>t."No, U!"
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>>24715419
I spit on Feminists
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>>24715476
did your mom molest you?
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>>24715931
Maas being outed as one would make me cum. Bust all over those tatas
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>>24717041
>did your mom molest you?
no. was she supposed to?

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Hello, anons.

This will be my last post on, /lit/. The board has become unbearable with too many retards and faggots littering garbage, low-quality threads on my board and leaving low-IQ comments in my high-quality threads. Enough is enough, I am done.

I know it will be painful for the handful of high-IQ individuals to lose a productive member of /lit/ like me, but I am left with no other options. All the intellectuals like me are leaving, leaving only the midwits.

Goodbye forever.
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>>24716083
>Goodbye forever.
You're still shitting up the board as we speak
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>>24716098
>Is there any other place that discusses literature on a decent level?
American/English-language literary culture happens in four places, basically -- /lit/, in the replies of a loosely connected NYC-adjacent twitter account archipelago, some small discord servers, and r/rsbookclub / r/truelit. (Seethe all you want about le heckin plebbit it's true.) If you're a regular /lit/ poster you probably won't fit into the other three places but you can try
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>>24716083
See you tomorrow, retard.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91gT68xeDMM
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>>24716083
How do I make better posts? Prose? I like reading but my writing feels rough.

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Our time has come, schoppybros.
/lit/ is now a full Schopenhauer board. Only today I read a bunch of schoppy threads. Great!
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>>24717777
>the Fourfold Root
what is it?
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>>24717810
Guys I cant tell who or what youre responding to or criticizing. As an open minded anon who is a fan of Schopenhauer based on reading of his essays, the linked post was my post, trying to wrestle with the criticism of the post I was replying to criticizing Schopenhauer's understanding of Kant (which I dont even think in principle is necessarily ridiculous, but the anon contexualizing and reminding how Kant is a response to Hume and that not incorporating certain tenets of Kant leaves you open to the criticisms Hume posited that Kant was trying to escape from)
So what are you guys responding to specifically?
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>>24717837
>Schopenhauer based on reading of his essays,
Read "On the Fourfold Root of the Principle of Sufficient Reason" and then his main work until then you haven't read.
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>>24717838
Im currently reading something else I just browse these threads and this board to learn new concepts through osmosis to develop interest to read in the future in the first place. This was the first Schopenhauer criticism that made sense to me. I just want to know if it can even be addressed or if Schopenhauer even dodges the problem of Hume or if the criticism is apt
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>>24717630
I'm reading a book on Idealism, and the authors mention that F. H. Bradley's philosophy of the Absolute, despite its name, actually is much closer to Schopenhauer's Will than the other Idealists' Absolutes. I don't know if it's an influence, but it's interesting, nonetheless.


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