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>>25183290
Steve Perry/S.D. Perry write a lot of Alien extended-universe stuff (and a lot of other franchises). They're pretty good, very established. I've had a couple books from them since I was a kid. Dead Space: Martyr is also really good.
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Who is the most horror /lit/ band and why is it Current 93?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twMK4lAn01s
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>>25183329
Can someone please tell David Tibet to republish The Moons At Your Door?
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>>25182903
I got that but I was forced to use an ebook to read it because I don't like the double-column text on each page. It's just too small for me.
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>>25182967
>>25182975
>How are Robert E. Howard's horror stories? Are they any good?
They're great. You have the stories that draw strong influence from the writers he liked (Lovecraft, Machen, Doyle and Kipling) and you have the more Howardian horror stories that have either have a lot more action and adventure or draw from the tales of his native Texas and the slave folklore of the plantation south.
get the del ray horror stories because it has more stories, howard's poetry and some good artwork to go along with it

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how do they expect me to take this guy seriously? when his whole motivation is
"I WANNA HAVE GAY SEX NOW, I WANNA HAVE GAY SEX NOW, I WANNA HAVE GAY SEX NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!"?
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>>25183005
Did the holocaust not happen in Harry Potter?
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>>25183194
it didn't happen anywhere
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>>25183195
touché
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How do you expect us to take you seriously when you're reading children's books
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>>25182882
He was right about everything and that is why the elites of the magical world hated him. If the mages took control of the world, World War II would be averted and so would be all the evils of cold war and modern world.

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I gooned to the sex scenes in this book when I was 10
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You masturbated. ’Goon‘ does not mean that.
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>>25183061
>when I was 10
When I began the series the first four or five books had come out by that time. IIRC the sex doesn't start until quite a few volumes in. I never finished the series though and I've always kicked myself for that. Got halfway thru book 11 when I stopped.
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>>25183061
For me it was when Yabu gets a handy from that kid in Shogun

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What a slog
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It's an homoerotic romance. It talks about gay sex from start to finish.
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>>25183308
Did you read the /lit/ annotated version from a few years ago?
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>>25183318
It’s a well written homoerotic romance though.
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>>25183346
Won't argue with that.

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What makes something "deep"? Is this a subjective quality? Can everyone have a different and valid view of something that is deep? Does the term imply emotional or intellectual complexity? What are authors that are deep?
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>>25183160
Not by my standard, no. What I am saying is that some teenage girl can find her deep and how would you convince her she's wrong
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>>25183172
By presenting an argument for an actual poet and their depth. It’s all very shallow waters with Kaur. This hypothetical girl is swimming in the kids pool with no idea that a much deeper one exists. So, comparison.
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>>25183135
I understand what you're saying and I get it to a point. It may be selfish, but I would like to talk to someone about a book I just read. For example, I just read 1Q84 and thought it was great. No one I know would actually sit through that book. I could create a thread here, but I would be shocked if there was one serious reply about the book. I guess I can take solace in the idea you are talking about.
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>>25183274
>1Q84
I bought it on audible because i have unused credits.
>46hr 45min
>dystopian
>magical realism
I think i'm ganna like it. How is it?
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>>25181529
This also begs the question, is it a more worthwhile endeavour to pursue depth with a topic taken seriously by scholars and readers than it is for something that often isn’t, like say, video games?

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Why does it seem that all anyone on this board wants to write now is either fantasyslop or sci-fislop?

I have seen some decently skilled writers throwing themselves away writing the most derivative, infantile, autistic, Royal-Road-coded shit imaginable:

>Narrowing his eyes at the approaching hoard of T’zendians, Klayden clenched his fist and summoned forth a burning shadow spear…

Just stop! Is this all because you’ve watched a small handful of fat guys be moderately successful producing this gutter oil? Why can’t you write something real? Do you have no real life experience to draw from?

Just downright right peculiar, thas’ all.
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>write about the real world and whats going on in it from a white male perspective
>all corners of society mysteriously coalesce to dismiss you as a wank nazi and bitter incel
>quite literally cannot get a single word in because you arent allowed to
>only viable "audience" is white men who are so bitter and jaded by the state of literature that they're a tiny base
>choices are "extrapolate to the point where you are hegel levels of incomprehensible" or "dont write" because the plain white male truth as he sees it is radioactive to how modern culture functions
>amid all this you have someone screaming NO STOP ENJOYING THOSE FEW BOOKS YOU ENJOY!!! STOP IT
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>>25181062
If it’s any comfort, my novel is a crime thriller because I hate fantasy slop.

If I ever write fantasy in the future, it’ll be because I hate the genre and want to reinvent it.
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>>25183223
Hating fantasy is not a substitute for a personality.
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>>25181252
Bakker was tyring. I read the first 3 books, yes, but seeing the smarter between us lying through their teeth using religion to get what they want because no one else is blonde and have blue eyes while a horde of subhumans rampage the other side of the world so a disloyal whore can become empress is so bizarrely accurate to human condition I couldn't stand it, I crave for fable on a realistic setting and Bakker is too realistic with no fable
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>>25181706
>comfy
>world mythology
ngmi

what books to read to a baby so that it does not go full chud
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>>25183213
>Can't stop thinking about children's genitals
Looks like you have something in common with Emily Youcis' dad
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>>25183233
>dodges the point
I accept your full and unconditional surrender.
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>>25183208
not at all, it's simply asymmetric warfare with no rules of engagement, the bioleninist autoimmune infection has no consistency or rules either in its corrosive action, hence it ought to receive none in return, everything you hold dear is to be mocked attacked and weakened relentlessly regardless of its internal consistency, weapons are meant to be offensive they don't have to be sharp on all sides just the side that hits
so the clown yelling nigger on a plane is a punk hero of the humble people against the boring old moralistic establishment, deal with it
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>>25183256
Also, because a literal schizo in a burger king crown is less mentally ill than any tranny, ever.
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>>25183256
The end result of this one sided vice signaling culture war is an algosorted rw echo chamber that funnels people into terrorgram channels where they swap cp and groom kids into being mass shooters. You can always justify it by imagining the other side is worse and you'll always have someone to affirm that viewpoint because it's an echo chamber. This is "actually existing" yarvinism as leftoids say.

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How do I stop doing this?
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>>25181820
posts like this are why I still come to this shithole
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you basically have to develop discipline for it, like how you force yourself to go to work every day at the same time you basically just have to force yourself to read X amount of pages every day no matter what
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>>25183209
Reading shouldn’t be a chore, friend
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>>25181785
She is clearly preggo.
You can tell from the breast bulk and face.
Fat women have fat stored in their chin, and she doesn't appear to.
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>>25181738
Turn off your computer and open the book. It's shrimple

Philosophy of Flamenco books?

Specifically philosophy: not history or art of flamenco.
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>>25178871
do you want us to go out and live life for you?
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There is a small section on flamenco in Derek Bailey's "Improvisation: its nature and practice in music." I think that the field of critical improvisation studies might be the right track for you.
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>>25178871
My half-Japanese cousins are unironically accomplished flamenco dancers in a city-not-in-Spain
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>>25182411
very nice, were they in spain at one point? In my region there isnt much interest in flamenco sadly
i thought about maybe writhing some dance schools, but as i said i need practical experience so they probably arent interested
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>>25178871
lol why would any of us know. theres probably like 2 other spaniards on the board.

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put anyone, fiction, politics, philosophy, math ect.
accepting putting two in same grid if they are similar and important enough to you as each other
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>>25180134
Nigga this is some entry level /lit/core. If you've been here 5+ years you should've read most of them already.
For reference, I read:
>Iliad (once), Odyssey (twice) I liked the Iliad more though
>some of his greatest (Lear, Hamlet, Macbeth) and started my way through his early plays chronologically (up next is Julius Caesar)
>Areopagitica, Paradise Lost, Paradise Regained
>V., 49, GR
>Moby-Dick, Pierre, Confidence-Man, Piazza Tales
>Dubliners, Portrait, Ulysses, the first page of FW before dropping it
>Nigger of the Narcissus, Heart of Darkness (yet to read any actual novel)
>Crime & Punishment, Demons, TBK (didn't like Demons)
>Buddenbrooks, Magic Mountain, Doctor Faustus
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>>25180225
huh. youre right. nevermind, my bad, sorry man
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>>25180267
If you weren't a newfag you'd know /lit/ likes the Iliad more.

Shoehorning pynchon in there is just proof you've only heard of these other Classical greats. Unless you're literally 18 or something
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>>25181141
>If you weren't a newfag you'd know /lit/ likes the Iliad more.
I only said it I like the Iliad more because I reread the Odyssey, but not the Iliad. I did so to prepare for Ulysses, not because I like it more.
>is just proof you've only heard of these other Classical greats. Unless you're literally 18 or something
Are you projecting something here?
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Pizarnik, Trakl, Kafka, Perec, Ballard, Eliot, Bernhard, McCarthy

I'm at a point in my life where I think I have a pretty good idea of what most people are like if I spend enough time with them, even if they aren't open about it. Except rich people, especially rich women. They're completely opaque, I can never know what they truly think or whether they really believe what they're saying. There's some non-rich people who also do that to me, but *all* rich people do it. It's like being unreadable is the essential skill to get there.
I also recently heard of the "novel of manners" genre, is there something like that for the modern west?
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>>25183059
nigga any post without proper structure aint good wtf
samefag???
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>>25183084
Bad post
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>>25183094
Rude :/
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>>25183059
>>25183084
Not a samefag, but I wrote it in almost a stream of consciousness style with minimal editing, so anon's criticism has a basis. In fairness, I was trying to synthesize a lot of the thread's points, not address specific posts.
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>>25183052
>>25183099
>>25183084
it was a good post


The only people with control of their own time are really rich people and really poor people, the only difference is that really rich people have to keep up the race and really poor people have to sometimes race really hard

>What is /phil/ Philosophy General?
A general for readers, students, and armchair thinkers interested in philosophy, whether it be Western, Eastern, analytic, continental, ancient, contemporary. We discuss primary texts, secondary literature, online lectures, podcasts.

>Why read philosophy?
Politics, science, psychology, etc. all began with or were inspired by someone who thought philosophically. Basically, if you are interested in just about anything, philosophy will help you better understand that subject. Because it is at the foundation of every conceptual institution made or discovered by humans, it is in the underbelly of human experience, and so it is worth taking seriously.

>Why study philosophy formally?
Surprisingly versatile and undervalued. Phil majors consistently score among the highest on the LSAT, GRE, and GMAT. Strong pipeline into law, policy, ethics consulting, AI alignment, and academia.

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>>25181781
What do you think about heidegger?
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>But when I see an older man still engaging in philosophy and not giving it up, I think such a man by this team needs a flogging. For, as I was just now saying, it's atypical that such a man, even if he's naturally very well favored, becomes unmanly and avoids the centers of his city and the marketplaces--in which, according to the poet, men attain "preeminence"--and, instead, lives the rest of his life in hiding, whispering in a corner with three or four boys, never uttering anything well-bred, important, or apt.
>Gorgias 485 d-e
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>>25179996
I only read from Aristotle forward. Dialogues confuse me.
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I like Camus but I disagree. One must in fact, imagine Sisyphus blowing his fucking brains out, or repeatedly slamming a sharpened rock against himself.
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>>25183080
cool

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Which hero from the three Greco-Roman epics is /lit/'s favorite? Picture of X-fags missing the point of the Iliad attached for entertainment purposes.
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>>25182974
The first half mirrors The Odyssey
The second half mirrors The Iliad
If you think about the plot, you'll get it. He is undoing the conquest of Troy.
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Imagine talking about the Trojan war and not discussing the primary sources
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>>25183189
Anchises' speech in the underworld is more kino than anything in Homer.
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>>25183189
>>25183304
>Virgil shills appear for the aeneid
Ok what translation since i guess im missing something? Im guessing a lack of knowledge of roman history has also hindered me
>inb4 learn Latin
I havent even learned greek yet. Dont wanna do Latin 1st
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>>25183127
>if you remember the Iliad it is foretold that Aeneas can’t die because he’s foretold to found a great kingdom after Troy falls
Ah yes I remember I didnt like it that he had plot armor.

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Anyone remember this?

So, did we finally see what anon's brother wrote about dragons? Whatever happen to that guy?
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bump

Is this the most reddit book in existence? I'm finding it nearly impossible to finish due to the reddit prose

>Ermm I'm in space...? And I'm a ... scientist? Come on, megabrain! Science this shit!
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>>25163393
films can get away with it since they are about spectacle, and the writing is a small part that can be compensated by cinematography, score, acting, etc. Jurassic Park is just as reddit but it's one of the best films ever made, even the most snobby film buff would agree.
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>>25172473
Oopsie daisy! Did I just insult your favourite boyband?
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>>25178542
What book is this? Surely YA?
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>>25154576
Go read Greg Egan's Diaspora then. Dropping books I can't keep myself reading did me wonders. Not a single millenial character in it.
>>25155261
>he beatles are the best thing since fried bacon
One more success case for joint CIA-M16 psyops
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>>25169770
Wait so this guy isn't even a millennial then.
And my question is why is there so much dialogue? I tend to not go past the first page if there is mostly dialogue.

My last question is which millennial authors have written decent work?


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