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the walls of tyrosh edition

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>>25183222
GRRM does not believe in an afterlife. He's gone out of his way to challenge Christian heuristics, and he's not displayed any appreciation of Eastern philosophy as an alternative. It is most likely he is atheist so therefore believes once he dies that's the end of everything. GRRM is an optimistic person because he is naive, not because he intellectually labored through the Gym of Cynicism. He believes people have a default setting of Good, rather than a default setting of Neutral, so is unable to cope with people behaving outside his value system.

>>25182456
GRRM can be accused of being a fake fan because he fails to mention Glorfindel. I would not even hold it against George if he criticized Glorfindel as a worse use of resurrection, because Glorfindel has so many self-enforced restrictions that it becomes questionable why he was even resurrected. The reason Gandalf the White works is because the MISSION is still not completed, Sauron still exists, and Saruman the White already failed and fell to the same darkness that Sauron represents. Glorfindel did not have to rescue Frodo, anyone else could have done so. There still had to be a wizard among The Fellowship to guide them in their darkest hour. The whole point of the wizards was to downsize Maia spirits as moral mentors to the men isolated from the forces of Good (let's assume Radagast is stuck as a Planeteer). Ergo, Gandalf is irreplaceable after dispensing justice to an ancient evil.

>>25187435
My 2cents: Westeros speaks 1 language as a result of the Weirwood/Greenseer superorganism. Everyone is infected with the hivemind germ enough they can quickly adapt and keep the same language. Obviously GRRM will never call it a germ or a spore, just magic, but the effect is the same.

>>25186582
King Bran should be walked back from the Iron Throne to just King of the Old Gods. He mantles the greenseer superorganism to de-escalate the Long Night, thus another "peace treaty" like how the first Long Night ended. Add in everyone else's struggle with different explanations for saving the world.

Pic unrelated, I can't abide losing Shireen to a bonfire.
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>>25182456
>>25183222
>>25188151
Feel the bigger reason is you don't want to cheapen death.
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Young Giff mysterious identity?
>actually Aegon VI himself
>Illyrio’s wife Serra possibly being a Blackfyre descendant
>Brightflame cadet pretender
>Pertender noble trace from Jaehaerys I daughters who fled narrow sea
>Lost line of Greem faction or cadet successors
>He originally from House Longwater
>minor house opportunist like Baelish and Bronn
>simply a nobody use as pawns
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>>25188151
I do ship Rickon and Osha
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>>25182397
>>25184149
Cat and Jon notably similar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqcJMMWB_T4

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If Hegel’s claim that animals do not think is to carry any philosophical weight, it must rest on something more than behavioral observation, since the inference from outer behavior to inner experience presupposes precisely what is in question — namely, whether there is an inner experience to which the behavior corresponds at all. Hegel has no access to the subjective interior of the animal, and the confident negative claim that no genuine thought occurs there requires a penetration into that interior which his own philosophy, on any honest reading, cannot provide.
His response to this difficulty is to deny that the interior is sealed. The inner expresses itself in the outer, and a hidden interior causally disconnected from all expression is, he argues, not a genuine interiority but an incoherent remnant of Cartesian mythology. Yet this reply does not survive contact with the most ordinary facts of human experience. In dreaming, in silent thought, in states of intense altered experience, there is demonstrably rich inner content accompanied by no legible outer expression whatsoever. The dreamer lies still. Nothing in the behavior indicates what is occurring. If the identity of inner and outer held as a general thesis, such states would be impossible — yet they are among the most common features of human life.

Hegel is not unaware of the problem of qualitative experience. The Phenomenology opens with sense-certainty precisely because it is the philosophical expression of this claim — that immediate felt experience, the sheer thisness of what is given, constitutes the richest and most concrete form of knowledge. His dialectical response is to show that when sense-certainty attempts to articulate what it knows, it collapses into universality. This, here, now — these are universals, applicable to any this, any here, any now. Pure particularity cannot be said, and what cannot be said cannot ground knowledge. Sense-certainty is thus sublated, and the movement toward Absolute Knowing proceeds.
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But this movement occurs entirely within a single consciousness. It is my sense-certainty that gets sublated into my universality. The felt interior of another subject — their pain, their dream, the specific quality of their experience — is never available to me even as the raw material which the dialectic might then overcome. One cannot sublate what one cannot access. The universality Hegel derives from sense-certainty’s failure is therefore not a universality of experience as such but a universality of conceptual form, abstracted from a single first-person case and extended to others without any demonstrated warrant for doing so.

The consequences for Absolute Spirit are considerable. If Absolute Spirit is genuinely the self-knowledge of the whole — all finite spirits comprehended as moments of Spirit’s self-articulation — then it possesses a blind spot coextensive with the felt interiority of every finite subject, which is to say an infinite number of blind spots. It knows the conceptual structure of experience universally while remaining, in principle, exterior to the qualitative content of any experience other than the one through which it happens to be philosophizing at a given moment.

The only resolution available within the system is the one Hegel in effect asserts — that philosophy achieves the divine standpoint, that the Absolute is genuinely thinking through every finite mind, and that in Absolute Knowing the separation between perspectives is overcome from within because there was never more than one Spirit to begin with. This may be true. But it cannot be demonstrated from any finite position, and from any finite position it therefore has the character of an assertion rather than a result. Schelling and Kierkegaard both recognized that something escapes — the brute facticity of existence for Schelling, the irreducible inwardness of the existing individual for Kierkegaard. What escapes, in each case, is the same thing: the felt interiority of the finite subject, which the system requires but cannot reach.
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Imagine wasting years of your life trying to understand Hegel's gooblyglok only to find out he was wrong.

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I just finished it and was honestly very impressed by it. The plot itself was captivating, the philosophical parts were interesting and some scenes like the Seidevarre or the WW2 tale were absolutely phenomenal. However, I don't know if I really get it, specially the ending. (spoilers ahead, obviously).

I think that the main theme of the book is about the idea of God and free will. Neuve Chapelle and the WW2 tale are two examples of the freedom of the man to act against moral values that are equivalent to the idea of God. Conchis acts like a God in his island, but certainly never forces Nicholas to do anything, except for the final judgment. He always comes back because he wants to.

In the end, when everything is explained, I think that the final objective of the experiment is about the nature of love, fidelity, relationships, etc. and Nicholas rejects that idea of Conchis and Lily to return to the classical patriarchal relationship between him and Alison, that finally materializes when he slaps her. Exercising, thus, the final act of freedom or "eleutheria".

I dont really know if my interpretation is quite correct and obviously it has many, many layers and can be interpreted in many other ways. Nonetheless, I'd be interested to hear your opinions on the book.

Thanks!
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>>25188342
Interesting insights, although I didn't enjoy the book as much as you. I thought it turned into a navel-gazing exercise for the author, and there were far too many plot twists for its own good.
What struck me most were the parallels with the legend of Orpheus. The protagonist's name is a big hint (I think someone calls him "Orfe" by mistake at one point.) He goes through hell (figuratively rather than literally) to get his lover back, only to lose her in a rash moment at the end.
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>>25188342
It's not as good as "Collector" by the same author

were standards just different back then? I can’t really see a guy like him pulling today, when most women's baseline prerequisite seems to be tall, athletic and outdoorsy .
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>>25187397
There's women for every niche, they hunt the dick down like truffle pigs
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>>25187742
>Houellebecq is still doing it today bro

isn't Houellebecq's whole thing being incredibly bad with women?
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>>25187476
almost but not quite, women are attracted to competence ie outward proofs of intelligence. camus pulled not just because he was intelligent, but because many, many other people saw him as intelligent/a good writer. the competence boost is extremely real
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>>25187476
That would explain why charetered accountants are drowning in pussy.
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Celebrity among college students

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Post books you loved as a kid. Comfy thread.
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>>25187668
Wait Ted Hughes wrote the Iron Giant?
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I loved "Danny Dunn and the Homework Machine." Not only did it introduce me to computers long before Apple came along, it also showed me that you didn't have to play by the rules grownups made up.

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Tango edition

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>>25188182
call him out on it
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>>25188182
Admonish them and tell them it is worse than what they're capable of. Unless they aren't then I'm just sorry.
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When I started reading it, it was just so strange...I thought maybe it was just the introduction, but then every chapter I flipped through was basically identical in pacing, tone, and style. I've known this person for years and I never would've guessed they wrote this. I tossed a chapter into some ai detection tools and they generally agreed it was ai, some said 100% certain, but grok went back and forth between being 95% sure it was ai and 80% sure it was a human with maybe some light ai polish. This person is generally smarter than me in most ways that people would say matters, and certainly more accomplished, but I can't shake the feeling that it's almost entirely ai created. I have some theories on why they did it and why they may just see AI as a writing aid, but if that's the case, it makes me reevaluate a lot of other things in the past.
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I finished writing my book and editing it the best I could. WHat do I do with it now?
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>>25188369
Get over your fear of communicating publicly

I'm 50 pages in. Is this book actually a difficult read like redditors say or does Cormac just obfuscate his descriptions of land in poetic runon sentences to make you feel overwhelmed?
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>>25186938
Crazy how there are many 20 year old weeb zoomers out there, who consider One Piece to be the supreme achievement in humanity, who unironically have this sentiment after having listened to BM on jewtube
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>>25185166
it’s garbage and written like shit, it’s only talked about because of The Judge and how brutal some of the stuff in it is, everything else is poorly paced shit
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this board makes me feel horrible for liking this book
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>>25188092
You should.
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What's the scoop on Cormac here, what rich person is he the son of and how many times has he been bailed out

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>have to re-read a paragraph because my mind drifted to boobs and pusy again
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>>25187142
Stop watching porn
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>>25187142
tough life being indian i guess
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Read erotic novels
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Happens to the best of us
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>>25187159
Better still, he needs to get his bone smooched.

>spends career writing about the Christ myth theory
>dies on Christmas day
All the proof that I need. Christ was real.
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>>25187758
> massachusetts
God and man at yale by william buckley was written a hundred years too late
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>>25187758
>All the proof that I need.
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>>25187758
Jesus mythicism is literally lower than being a 70 iq ultra religious stupid peasant.

It's the most bad faith reading and arguments I have ever seen.
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>>25187758
>Christ was real.
Freudian slip
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>>25187758
>All the proof that I need.
And not the thousands of years of solid theology?

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What books do they read?
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>>25187737
>Also, back in his time, there were not many things you could do to pass your time
There was always the option of kidnapping, raping and eating children, you know, like on the eptein island?
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Burgers really have to spam their retarded politics on every board dont they?
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Ha. Thanks, I needed a laugh. Like Sam Bankman-Fried, these guys read web pages if they read anything at all.
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>>25186287
Give them 10 years of absolute rule and they could save the world.
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>>25187974
We‘re fags!

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When someone online mentions their favorite authors are guys like Moorcock, Gene Wolfe and George RR Martin, what sort of person do you imagine?
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>>25188353
19 year old

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Asterix & Obelix (the old ones)
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williams' "homosexuality in ancient rome" (second edition)
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>>25188143
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>>25188143
The Roman Empire in Late Antiquity, by Hugh Elton
Rome's Gothic Wars, by Michael Kulikowski
A History of the Later Roman Empire, AD 284-641, by Stephen Mitchell
Aurelian and the Third Century, by Alaric Watson
The Emperor and the Army in the Later Roman Empire, AD 235-395, by Mark Hebblewhite
Res Gestae, by Ammianus Marcellinus

t. Late Roman Chad
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>>25188143
The ancient cannon. Everything is else will be biased and tainted.

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>Pynchon
ruined by Hollywood trendhoppers
>DeLillo
ruined by schizophrenic wannabe podcasters
>McCarthy
ruined by manosphere conservatards

it's time to get into Roth, anons
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>>25188112
thanx
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>open thread
>filled with people who obviously haven't read Philip Roth
This board is so predictable.
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>>25187259
>all of them are about jews
Who cares? It's like complaining Scorsese makes movies about Italians. Read American Pastoral, The Human Stain, Sabbath's Theater, you picked a bunch of his late books where he's ruminating on his childhood.
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>>25187875
i only started to get into lesser-known postmodernists in the past year or so. i snagged W&M on Amazon for decently cheap and i got three of his other novels but thats it
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>>25188141
The Italians have aesthetic and historic value.

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Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others.
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>>25187457
Terrible. But I'm sure it speaks to a certain type of young woman living in this generation.
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So saying, on he led his radiant Files,
Daz'ling the Moon; these to the Bower direct
In search of whom they sought: him there they found
Squat like a Toad, close at the eare of Eve;
Assaying by his Devilish art to reach
The Organs of her Fancie, and with them forge
Illusions as he list, Phantasms and Dreams,
Or if, inspiring venom, he might taint
Th' animal spirits that from pure blood arise
Like gentle breaths from Rivers pure, thence raise
At least distemperd, discontented thoughts,
Vaine hopes, vaine aimes, inordinate desires
Blown up with high conceits ingendring pride.
Him thus intent Ithuriel with his Spear
Touch'd lightly; for no falshood can endure

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>>25187791
>Just to boot, the sky isn’t actually blue
A strange metaphor
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>>25186913
So?
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>>25180488
Is this supposed to be romantic? Because it sounds dumb as fuck.

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How many pages per day is a "good" reading pace? How fast does /lit/ get through books?
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>>25188290
Depends on how big the pages are
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its contingent on how dense the text is and the text size and how much you want to bother with the thing. for me personally it depends a lot on how smooth the writing reads in my mind's voice. i got through Stella Maris in a day because it was Cormac just putting on a dialogue clinic, but The Recognitions took me like 3 months even though i could say the same about its dialogue and prose. try to measure your progress by qualitative metrics and not quantitative ones, itll make your life easier
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>>25188290
Depends on how complicated the words are
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>>25188290
I read like 60-90 pages today. I did it over 3 sessions though. I don't have the attention span to read 100 pages without taking a break
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>>25188312
Had my whole day free today and only did 40 pages. It's non-fiction but this still can't be good...


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