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Is this true?
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>>25188257
those who read nietzsche too soon, become jungians. those who read nietzsche too late, become freudians. nietzsche is only understood by those who read him too late
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>>25188261
I don't read nietzsche at all
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>>25186126
Reading philosophy is gay, you're letting another man's thoughts penetrate your mind, that's gay. Really though, the problem with philosophy is that so long as it's internally coherent then any philosophy will make sense. And all those words words words will just distract you from it's fundamental assumptions. You'll end up creating a palace of concepts in your mind yet be more deluded than ever. Philosophizing needs to be recognized for what it is, as maps, you want a good map but you don't want to mistake the map for reality; being too cerebral isn't a good thing.
>>25187252
This
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>>25187947
You have no clue what games exist outside of COD, you arrant retard. I won't even bother engaging in this debate. To seek truth beyond the material world is just a coping method in itself. You have claimed your idol as the pursuit for truth, which can only arise in this world, not from some category independent of human existence. Regardless, pursue whatever idol you wish - it's all equally pointless in the end, and it's funny you can't see through the illusion that is your goal.

>>25188261
Rubbish. Freud and Jung felt derivative and boring after going through Schopenhauer and Nietzsche.
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Marx debunked Nietzsche

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>Intellectually competent main character
>An understanding of history and geopolitics
This web novel mocks every single Mexican fiction writer, that's both laughable and depressing.

Why does Latam literature have to be obsessed with garbage that has nothing happening, but it's written in 'pretty prose'?
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>>25185993
You can change all of that Isekai's monologues into ghetto slang. It would still make sense and be rational.

Rulfo does that already with rural speech patterns, but if you were to change his stories to ghetto slang, you'd realize how much retarded shit he spews.

There's no difference between what Rulfo wrote and randomly grabbing some idiot from a rural town and asking him to talk about his cows and shit. Equally inconsequential, equally meaningless.
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>I pull her close, tryna calm her down, but she ain’t hearing me. She just cries harder. Out her mouth comes this sound, like something dragging along the riverbank, making her whole body shake and shudder, and all the while the water keeps rising. That rotten taste coming from out there splashes up on Tacha’s wet face, and her little chest keeps moving up and down, nonstop, like all of a sudden it’s swelling up, like it’s fixing to turn against her.

THEM TIDDIES
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>>25183937
>This web novel mocks every single Mexican fiction writer, that's both laughable and depressing.
Mexican here. We have bigger problems, like to churn out good genre fiction, locally you can find some good stuff but not like to export to other countries. Now, I remember reading from the LA Times an article, about something else entirely (criticising the Mexican Gov for their Injun LARPing while real life modern indigenous people get kicked out of their lands for Gov mega projects) and somewhere in the article it said something like "Mexico is a country of extremes; one that produces both, very high brow and very,very low brow culture" and I cannot agree more. The thing is, English speaking countries and East Asian countries (Korea and Japan particularly) produce the stuff they do because they have the social and economical conditions for that; Mexico is instead a handful of relatively developed Southern European cities surrounded that the most underdeveloped of South-East Asia.
We are in North-America, but you know what I mean about the country being made up of Southern Europeans and East Asians
>>25184660
>But then again, i'm aware of the existence of Tezcatlipoca, a novel (and manga) by a japanese author about mexico so hey, maybe the west is as exotic to the east as they are to us.
Indigenous people of the Western Hemisphere are exotic to Westernes themselves, not only East Asians. But yeah, "The West" as a whole can be "exotic" and is often romanticized by East Asians (the "Paris Syndrome" for example).
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>>25186890
I already explained why the isekai does not make sense at all.
Here:
>>25185857
And here:
>>25185951

No, it is not a rational masterwork. It is pretty shitty. It is made for children or juveniles.

>>25186907
Okay, I can see why you miss most of what makes Rulfo great since that translation is extremely bland.
And I can also see why you preffer Pedro Páramo, since it might have better translations.
Anyhow, the point of 'her breasts' is that she was his sister and now has become a woman. It is a symbol, a very easy one to get, you know? And like his other sisters, due to the poverty, she will be either whored out or kidnapped by a man.
It is actually an ironic and black comedy short story, but also terribly real.


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>>25188256
>Anyhow, the point of 'her breasts' is that she was his sister and now has become a woman. It is a symbol, a very easy one to get, you know? And like his other sisters, due to the poverty, she will be either whored out or kidnapped by a man.

No shit. How is that deep, or intellectually compelling?

I could go to Mexico city interview the prostitutes there and write the exact same shit in like a week.

>>25188256
It is not shitty, all his syllogisms are carefully made, granted you could argue about the historical accuracy, but it is well above anything that Rulfo ever wrote.

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So i have a friend who recently got into audiobooks and he keeps talking about this one and tries getting us into it but it just seems like slop to me,did anyone here read it and what do you think of it ? worth getting into ?
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>>25187580
>never read it but safe to assume your friend has shit taste.
yea to be fair our taste don't overlap that much but he was acting like it was the best series he's ever read and after looking it up its apparently in a genre called litRPG ?! seems like its basically a narrated video games.
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>>25187539
I have NOTHING against reading an occasional slop but judging by that cover I assume not much effort went into this. So why should I spend the effort reading it? I might be making a proverbial mistake but here we are.
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>>25187539
of course it's slop
tell him that you read for the same reason you go to the gym (you do go to the gym, don't you?)
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same situation but actually tried it
gigaslop
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>>25188110
>(you do go to the gym, don't you?)
i have dumbbells and stuff and train at home 3 times a week,here gym membership is expensive and id rather do it in my own space.

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No, its not that I don't understand, or I get bored, or I'm not cultured enough. Quite the opposite. Dostoevsky is fake-deep slop for midwits. I cannot comprehend how an actually intelligent individual could like his works. It seems to me that its more normies circlejerking to seem cultured.
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>>25177801
Yep, Dostokino.
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>>25177801
Quite literally ghastly rigmarole.
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>>25181685
hyperbole is a common trait of youth
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>>25182708
I don't really want to engage with surface-level analysis. You don't understand literature.
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>>25187254
You don't want to engage because you can't. You can only claim "shallowness" because you can't build an actual case for it. Dosto, as an author, is closer to Ayn Rand than anything else, that is to say, ideological propaganda or masturbatory material for the already converted.

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Why is this so underrated?
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>>25184495
He unironically could have benefited from more showing and less telling.
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>>25184495
I honestly can't understand why it hasn't had the big-budget Hollywood treatment.
Of course, I should be careful what I wish for.
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>>25188412
It would've been shit probably, but they should still try. There is some movie about niggers trying to escape from an enemy gang's turf or something like that, supposedly Anabasis-inspired.
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>>25188653
The Warriors. It's pretty good for a B-movie.

Why Nick Land gone from "The story goes like this: Earth is captured by a technocapital singularity as renaissance rationalization and oceanic navigation lock into commoditization take-off. Logistically accelerating techno-economic interactivity crumbles social order in auto sophisticating machine runaway. As markets learn to manufacture intelligence, politics modernizes, upgrades paranoia, and tries to get a grip" to "Brown people are scary"?
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'Deceleration bad. Be a dronetroon for government ai from the future, puppet. Annihilate every part of yourself and exist on a spectrum that spans from perfectly fungible economic unit to cyberdrone. Do it for your betters.'
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>>25186909
>>25186898
The truth is that the massive influx of Indian immigrants in the western world is making everyone super racist because Indians are disgusting.
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>>25188622
>Annihilate every part of yourself
(Not even what he says, at least nowadays)
>and exist on a spectrum that spans from perfectly fungible economic unit to cyberdrone
>Be a dronetroon for government ai from the future
"Annihilate everything unnecessary, except for whatever accords to our needs according to your own". Where have we both heard this before? The 'common good' of capitalist wealth and technique goes way ahead of that principle. It's not affordable to oppress every citizen into an extremely limited activity to the point only people with high IQ aspergers ever contribute anything.
>>25188638
The truth is that you need to make a compromise for white people to even exist.
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>>25188680
dont engage with polacks. we already understand what youre saying.
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>>25188680
>>25188692
Hello saars

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How many pages per day is a "good" reading pace? How fast does /lit/ get through books?
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About 30 today for me but I might get back to it… I’m not telling you what I’m reading.
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>>25188290
I read philosophy rather slowly, a typical session is 10-15 pages with typically sized pages. If I get fully absorbed in something I'll read a good 50, or if something lacks good content I can also read 50 before I'm filled with concepts and ideas to process.

As always consistency is more important, focus on having good days, if you read even a tiny bit but you find yourself reflecting about that tiny bit at night, during walks or with any random events, then It's a good day and it was good reading because it helped you heighten every other moment on top of having been a nice reading moment in itself.
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>>25188290
30 minutes of reading per day, before bed, is good enough for me.
This way I manage to replace brainrot scrolling and slow down to sleep.
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>>25188290
it depends what you are reading, reading a science fiction book isn´t the same as reading a essay
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>>25188682
What philosophy books are you referring to? The ones that you read 10-15 pages of?

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Tango edition

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>>25188608
It goes on for almost 200 pages and has almost no direction outside of the chapter titles. It also sounds absolutely like nothing he has ever written, at least not that I've seen.
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>>25188615
I don't know but you piss me off
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>>25188624
We can do an old timey boxing match if you're in the buffalo area. Afterwards we'll go out for root beer floats.
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>>25188547
What is this Victoria story anons keep mentioning? Let me in on the joke
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>>25188693
It's not a joke, it's a really good excerpt one anon shared some time ago.

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Post books you loved as a kid. Comfy thread.
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>>25187729
Yerp
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Books I dream about reading to my kids some day. :-)
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>>25188635
Looks cute, originally in English? Or translated?
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>>25188665
Only released in Swedish afaik. Got a sequel and a CD-rom spinoff game as well so decently successful for a kids book I'd say.
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>>25188689
Aww man. I gotta learn Swedish!

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Do you attempt to read things you're sure you'll hate, or things you know you'll disagree with, in order to better understand them? Do you find it shapes your understanding at all or that it just sets up and reinforces your current opinions?

I'm a fan of cranks and manifestos, but I'm not exactly planning to start trying to tap the phoenix amerind bigfoot frequency or doing meth and trying to turn myself into a government owned troonputer. Reading some of the less objectionable feminist lit mostly just made me leas receptive to its ideas.
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yes. if i dont come up with more refined reasons to both dislike what i dislike and like what i like, i lose the sense of progress i have for my mental life and i get depressed. things i disagree with prompt me to find new words to dislike them. very seldom do i actually change my mind about things because of a rational argument, usually life experience forces me to change my mind. know thy enemy as they say
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>>25188575
Yes, I've been reading some contemporary fiction lately, primarily by women, just to see how people think and what they value. I haven't liked what I read, but it's been interesting to critique. I think it's helping my own writing. My views have become more thoroughly entrenched by reading it so far, but I do try to empathize.
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>>25188637
anything good you've been reading? or at least interesting?
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>>25188670
It's a *very* recent development haha. Finished Wayward by Dana Spiotta yesterday. It was an interesting glimpse into how people similar to her and the demographic she writes for thinks, and she's quite competent and even occasionally great as a stylist. There were bits of characterization and plot that were quite compelling, but it was overall drowned out by unnatural plotting and digressions, unnuanced political commentary, like she was trying to reach a word count minimum. Much of it struck me as quite false and artificial.

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>>25185985
Probably Hypersphere. The PDF comes in at 738 pages. Behind that probably the OG Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra.
https://lit.trainroll.xyz/wiki/Collaborative_Works

>>25185999
Sure, but plays aren't dense at all.
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>>25186193
Coronameron is 700 pp. too
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>>25187292
Ah I was only looking at the first volume.
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>>25185982
I enjoyed the play about Dugin
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>>25185982
So Gaviloski, do you plan on putting on a performance for these plays?

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Eating God's chicken tonight frens
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What do you guys think is the best country to live in? No jokes pls
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>>25188657
Not a country, but Antarctica
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>>25188396
What is a Amarillo? What is a San Antone?
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just took a shit after being constipated for ten days. needless to say it was a massive shit.

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Part 1 was kino. Parts 2 & 3 were meh.
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Most boring book I’ve ever read hands down
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>>25179181
Part 3 was my favourite
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>>25188130
Which is a sect of Judaism
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Loved this book, “Live” nearly moved me to tears. I thought the first 2/3rds or so of the third section was the slowest but it’s pretty good throughout desu
Is it “real literature?” I don’t want to enter the genre vs. lit pissing contest but if anything in the genre section might truly deserve the title of literature it must be this kind of book, no?
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>>25179234
McCarthy is a postmodernism. His prose isn't dense, he does what he wants and people get wet whenever he avoids punctuation.

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>>25184082
shut up weeb
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>>25184082
Speak up animeGOD
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>>25183653
Finally, a good idea.
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>>25183643
I ordered TPK instead, what am I in for?
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>>25187168
i still think about that one anon who was rewriting this as an isekai sometimes

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>though all our knowledge begins with experience, it by no means follows, that all arises out of experience.


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