Do you attempt to read things you're sure you'll hate, or things you know you'll disagree with, in order to better understand them? Do you find it shapes your understanding at all or that it just sets up and reinforces your current opinions? I'm a fan of cranks and manifestos, but I'm not exactly planning to start trying to tap the phoenix amerind bigfoot frequency or doing meth and trying to turn myself into a government owned troonputer. Reading some of the less objectionable feminist lit mostly just made me leas receptive to its ideas.
yes. if i dont come up with more refined reasons to both dislike what i dislike and like what i like, i lose the sense of progress i have for my mental life and i get depressed. things i disagree with prompt me to find new words to dislike them. very seldom do i actually change my mind about things because of a rational argument, usually life experience forces me to change my mind. know thy enemy as they say
>>25188575Yes, I've been reading some contemporary fiction lately, primarily by women, just to see how people think and what they value. I haven't liked what I read, but it's been interesting to critique. I think it's helping my own writing. My views have become more thoroughly entrenched by reading it so far, but I do try to empathize.
>>25188637anything good you've been reading? or at least interesting?
>>25188670It's a *very* recent development haha. Finished Wayward by Dana Spiotta yesterday. It was an interesting glimpse into how people similar to her and the demographic she writes for thinks, and she's quite competent and even occasionally great as a stylist. There were bits of characterization and plot that were quite compelling, but it was overall drowned out by unnatural plotting and digressions, unnuanced political commentary, like she was trying to reach a word count minimum. Much of it struck me as quite false and artificial.
I ran out of space
>>25178831lmao
>>25183826Based pipe smoker and lit enjoyer.
>>25169587most of those books sucks but i'll give you props for the 2nd impact and tricot shoutouts. the arranged ost for 2nd impact is great.
Some more fine lit.
Green books
>>25185985Probably Hypersphere. The PDF comes in at 738 pages. Behind that probably the OG Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra.https://lit.trainroll.xyz/wiki/Collaborative_Works>>25185999Sure, but plays aren't dense at all.
>>25186193Coronameron is 700 pp. too
>>25187292Ah I was only looking at the first volume.
>>25185982I enjoyed the play about Dugin
>>25185982So Gaviloski, do you plan on putting on a performance for these plays?
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Eating God's chicken tonight frens
What do you guys think is the best country to live in? No jokes pls
>>25188657Not a country, but Antarctica
>>25188396What is a Amarillo? What is a San Antone?
just took a shit after being constipated for ten days. needless to say it was a massive shit.
Part 1 was kino. Parts 2 & 3 were meh.
Most boring book I’ve ever read hands down
>>25179181Part 3 was my favourite
>>25188130Which is a sect of Judaism
Loved this book, “Live” nearly moved me to tears. I thought the first 2/3rds or so of the third section was the slowest but it’s pretty good throughout desuIs it “real literature?” I don’t want to enter the genre vs. lit pissing contest but if anything in the genre section might truly deserve the title of literature it must be this kind of book, no?
>>25179234McCarthy is a postmodernism. His prose isn't dense, he does what he wants and people get wet whenever he avoids punctuation.
>>25184082shut up weeb
>>25184082Speak up animeGOD
>>25183653Finally, a good idea.
>>25183643I ordered TPK instead, what am I in for?
>>25187168i still think about that one anon who was rewriting this as an isekai sometimes
>though all our knowledge begins with experience, it by no means follows, that all arises out of experience.
ITT: we post pictures and recommendations for liturature based on the pictures.
>>25187409it's a semi-regular thing, idea's been around for a while. search the archives for hundreds like it
>>25187395Meditationes de Prima Philosophia
>>25186107dante and berserk>>25187402jack london. is this not an illustration of jack london?>>25183496"heart of a dog" stars a black dog who aquires human vices, though he is older and shaggier than this dog.>>25181698bram stoker's "carmilla" is about a sexy vampire lady. there's also a sexy vampire in "life for sale" by yukio mishima, but she's clearly stated to be much milfier than jeanette.>>25187385i was only aware of the manga. i cannot recommend the novel as i haven't read it.>>25187394i say kafka has the banal surrealism of the twilight zone. my mother says that "earth abides".
>>25173891>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jjT4AjTUMA
>>25188576It's a jack london illustration
The universe will continue to spread and spread outward. Entropy will turn a chaotic infinity into a homogeneous controlled system. This will take billions of years and in that time humans will push technology to heights we can't imagine. We'll explore and inhabit space and occupy more and more of the universe, just as time allowed our ancestors to multiply in numbers and populate more and more of the Earth. And as the specific people come and go, their physical bodies will be born, and grow, and die. But their thoughts will remain. And Jim Davis' comics, his glorious Garfield comics, are recorded ideas of his that will still be here. Even when the Earth is no longer inhabitable, and humanity has long since moved away to bigger planets, they'll carry with them a record, a record we all keep ... a never-ending feed of ideas, immortal ideas, forever placed in the ether of dualism.
>>25186786AI could never create something as philosophically nuanced as Garfield
extropianist transhumanism is even more retarded than discordianism
In the distant future there will be academic publications of the complete Garfield corpus with a thorough critical apparatus in which scholars debate the meanings of lost cultural references and what type of cat food the so-called "lasagna" could be.
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Most of Marx's writings are either economic books, critiques of Hegelian thought, or historical analysis. He never left a coherent epistemology or metaphysics, and never really developed an ontology. His only philosophical work that I know of are the Manuscripts of 1844, but they remains very poor in their philosophical content. So why is he considered as one of the major thinkers of philosophy when his thought was as complex and philosophically rich as Montesquieu's thought was ?>dialectical and historical materialismMarx used a hegelian method to analyze history and society, but, apart from the German Ideology, he never really developed it. Even then, he doesn't really present a big and structured account for his philosophical thought but rather relies on a philosophical critique and historical presentation.
>>25185562Because nobody ever reads his shit, have you see many Marx quotes?
>>25188026Considering how long humanity has existed, he was right. Capitalism isn't sustainable for the simple reason that the capitalist class isn't just redunant but a major and increasingly expensive and inefficient burden. At some point the burden and harm will become so much that capitalism can no longer afford to support it.Finding solace in fantasies as depicted in the Boom of Disquiet is one thing. Finding solace in self-delusion, is just intellectual self-harm out of frustration the way an animal starts to chew himself from frustration and neurosis or a woman cuts herself. It is better to take some sort of drug that legal or illegal capitalism offers because it is a lot more effective.
>>25188251I rarely see quotes from philosophers except by midwits who hardly read. That's because when you read a book you rarely memorize a quote.
>>25188026>Dismissing the countries that actually implement socialist policies in the way they are theoretically intended, namely, giving opportunity and access to resources to all citizens, particularly young citizensWhy dismiss this? Just because Capitalists always oppose these policies being adopted? The Scandinavian countries at least demonstrate it is possible and leads to positive outcomes.
>>25188026>I have ~80 years to live on this world where suffering is guaranteed to not be solved by socialism in my lifetimeJust as an addendum, because you asked and seem to be despairing, I can tell you what I did. Limit all spending of any kind, live as frugally as you possible can (access to books via the internet is near-free, so that is your best avenue for entertainment and education at almost zero cost), then live with family or room mates (aim for a stable other party to reduce costs further and increase sustainability) then work as much as possible putting as much money as possible into stock investments. Following this model, you can expect to add to investments by at minimum $10k a year, plus 10% growth a year you can retire in like 15 years (if you start as a teen you can retire in your 30s and then have 50 years of free time to pursue hobbies, relationships, or entrepreneurial endeavors on your own terms). Thus, early life can be a slog, but then most of the balance of your life will be leisurely. Again, this is a guaranteed path to a mostly happy life if Capitalism holds sway, whereas if Socialism does win you'll have access to resources regardless. If catastrophe strikes you'd be screwed either way.
Where do you usually get free e-books for your Kindle?
>>25186485i think there are methods to hook rakuyomi to mangadex etc. and just download chapter-by-chapter - but far comfier is to set up ssh and torrent from nyaa etc
>>25186488Everyone who pirates ebooks should use calibre. It auto-converts anything to anything, and can also strip existing DRM off your own stuff (or stuff from Libby)
>>25188604Shame that no matter how good it gets, pdf conversions will forever be awful
>>25187793People think bib is frozen in time since the-eye. You can get anything at Anna's archive or irc or any library overdrive anywhere. With a request worth enough people will straight up purchase a book to upload. I got several in Swedish from bib because people there are desperate for upload.
>>25188626Yeah. It's frustrating how many older books are either PDF-only or the only epub copy has really bad OCR errors.I've tried to tinker with the advanced conversion options before and have had some success, but the spacing is never right.
Profound
>>25187912it's because of juden peterstein. he raves about dostoevsky in all of his lectures and public appearances. and as we now know, the scope of his knowledge and reading is actually very limited. it's possibly he champions dostoevsky merely because he hasn't read tolstoy
>>25188049>>25188077also he appears with unkempt hair and in his pajamas because a deep philosopher simply doesn't have a care for superficial appearance
>>25187858Oh that guy advertises on /x/ are they really two separate entities?
>>25188645There are a few others too who’re much better. Tolstoy as you mentioned. Pushkin, Bely, Gogol, Chekhov, even Turgenev.
>>25188652I don't know Bely but Pushkin is a whole different movement, he has more in common with Walter Scott or Charles Dickens than with Tolstoy, Turgenev, Gogol or Dostoevsky. And I'd say Dost is #2 after Tolstoy, or at least #3 in that list of realists
What are some good tasteful erotic scenes in serious literature /lit/?
>>25187806nothing as erotic as what i imagine Strether imagined Chad and Madame de Vionnet were up to at their place in the Parisian countryside in book 11 of the Ambassadors
>>25188127>to say nothing of the consciousness of that organshould i clarify that the antecedent of 'that organ' is 'his spiritual stomach' on the previous page
End of Plato's Timaeus
>>25187806Having anything stuck up your urethra is absolutely excruciating, as anyone who's been tested for gonorrhoea will tell you.
Are there any good essats or books that push strong arguments and reasons as to why traditional gender roles are superior to the modern version of womens roles and womens liberation?Stay at home mom = strong children =strong community=happy and healthy peoplesMother raising kids> the state raising kidsPerhaps even some writings that breakdown the mind of people that seem to be so bothered by these ideas
>>25185412>globalized industrial farming was never criticized chud!!>also fuck capitalism!! Hail MarxKek
>>25187840Who cares if Marx criticized it? He's an idiot. A schizophrenic idiot at that.
>>25185343>the state raising kidswould actually be better. What you have instead are overworked moms that can barely afford daycare and are often single, isolating their kids from society. State-run daycares and camps and whatnot would help kids engage in social activities.Stay-at-home mom means both mom and dad are affluent enough that one of them doesn’t work, which even in third-world countries isn’t true if one goes by western notions of “not contributing any significant taxable income to the household”: women who are nominally “housewives” will still spend a significant fraction of their time working for income in their free time. Go to villages in third-world countries where your supposed gender roles are upheld. Kids are raised by the community, women work in vegetable gardens, household animals and sewing to sell the produce/clothing, and often men and women will cook and/or clean together since if you’re working class, you cannot risk having one gender overworking themselves and getting sick/injured. These communities have joint families (several generations under one roof) in order to ensure that these things are upheld smoothly; your emphasis on gender roles in a western nuclear family setting within a suburban environment and individualistic culture where you don’t even know your neighbour’s name is entirely alien to them.
>>25188005>what we really need to do is give the pedophiles who run this country even MORE access to our children Brilliant.
>>25187078marital rape can only be controlled by putting a camera in every bedroom, otherwise the woman says he raped me and the man says no i didnt, and you have to let the man go because theres no evidence
When did /lit/ become anti-elitist? In recent posts I've seen the claims that Chaucer is second rate and sounds exactly like Dryden, that McCarthy is the highest iq novelist, that Orwell is a better writer than Joyce, that the Greeks aren't worth reading, that poetry is an outdated form, that a Sally Rooney novel has more depth of content than the classics, etc. Such opinions would have been considered unthinkable on /lit/ even five years ago. Where previously it would have been a given expectation for the clamour of vitriol to drown out any such rubbish, we are now not even surprised to see it greeted with approbation. What has happened?
>>25188593Only because of your autistic little tirade lol
>>25188618Mine? You must be mistaken.
>>25188485>I hate Milton though. I love Cormac McCarthy.And there it is: the cancer that's killing /lit/.
>>25188551Those people are figments of your imagination, and you're an obsessive weirdo.
>>25188485Go back. You have not read anyone you mentioned except for Cormac McCarthy.
