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>is literally just a Trump sycophant now
Wtf happened?
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>>25190828
Stop embarrassing yourself landian
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>>25189669
boomers gonna boom
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You know if you think about it, Land enthusiastically championing for humanity to become soulless nodes in the circuits of sentient Capital and soifaced redditors cheering for liberalism to consume the globe are both advocating for the same thing.
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I wonder if Nick Land is right and also part of the time travelling AIs recreational stuff. Once they got done with the flu they decided to really screw with us and set things up so a baby would have his diencephalon replaced with a meth producing gland.
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>>25189669
What you mistake for sycophancy is simply "Being over the age of 35 and not a hysterical retard." Land hasn't changed at all. He's just nakedly right about the current political situation. You are simply misreading the situation entirely and blaming him for not having misread it also.

Some percentage of the public is always just going to be too stupid to keep up with what is happening (you) and is going to assume that everyone who didn't similarly fail has had some abrupt change of heart when they have not. Nick Land is a genius, he's been watching this stuff happen for decades. He can explain all of his positions cogently, and will do so if you just go ask him to. He likely already has, at length, if you cared to look.

So which is more likely, that he's suddenly become a sycophant to a foreign political leader for no reason, or that you're just too stupid to understand what is going on? Look at who you agree with.

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ITT: Books that made you cry like a bitch.
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>>25187439
yes, there is one. it made me cry in the end, but i won't tell you the name of the book, sorry
i don't want to make any anon cry here :/
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>>25187439
I get it, It's because it's a dog, which a female thereof is a bitch.
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Of mice and men almost got me even though I knew it was coming
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>>25188990
>japanese fable but groeningshit
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>>25191218
Yeah, never trust a Pynchonfag to write anything good.

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I love how James Joyce created the ultimate pseud detector.
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>>25191171
Given that he thinks Wuthering Heights and Portrait of the Artist need a month each to read . . .
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>>25191176
I’m not a quick reader by any means and it took portrait about… 3 days? For me to read. I was a neet at the time granted but what the fuck
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>>25191205
The reading level of each of those books also varies wildly. Proust and Joyce are far more difficult than Brontë and Three musketeers. Anna Karenina is also much longer than some of the other books.
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>>25191209
Portrait of the artist isn’t THAT dense though; it doesn’t require a month, in my opinion. Ulysses? certainly. ISOLT (select volumes)? indubitably, FW? Well that depends on your engagement, could be a week, could be 30 years.
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this thread is sponsored by skillshare

What is the proper way to read a play?
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>>25189915
Plays were meant to be viewed, not read, so watch the movies instead.
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you have to be able to rotate the apple in your mind to read a play correctly
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>>25191187
I can do this with a very realistic and detailed looking pineapple, a banana, an orange, grapefruit, a pear, but not an apple. Will that suffice?
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>>25191196
yes.. but only if they all rotate at once and theres sparkles and it looks like gifs on a geocities website.
then, my good man, you are ready for shakespeare.
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>>25191215
Doing that as we speak, and some are even rotating very irregularly, you really gotta see this, it’s a spectacle alright. They’re like geometrically outre stars, bright (I made them so) and colourful as ever, dancing in tumult in the bowels of the infinite black. My imagination is a priori apprehending, associating and reproducing the contents therein to its utmost ability.

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How did he pull it out of his pocket?
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>>25190957
>you already are one since you’re here after all
It's okay, we all are in some way. It's the price we pay to survive in this civilization and to go into the internet for the slight possibility of meeting our friends
Have you read Corto? I just remembered Concerto in O Minor for Harp and Nitroglycerin. It's been ~15 years and the story is still stuck in my head, beautiful
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>>25190977
Indeed, I’m glad you didn’t take it the wrong way, especially since it was also in self derision. And I haven’t actually, I’m aware of it, and I think I do consider checking it out as a child, but never did unfortunately. Alas, that’s about the extent of my knowledge on Corto.
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>>25190989
I did* consider
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>>25190217
>What do you see
I got her number. how do you like dem apples?
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>>25190217
shoplifting

History general thread. What have you been reading and what have you to recommend–>discuss? I started this last night and it's kino of the highest order. For fans of Storm of Steel. Next history book I'm going to read after this will probably be Dancing in the Glory of Monsters. I'll finish Ghost Wars eventually.
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>>25188578
Just get into history. Doesn’t matter what medium.
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>>25152095
bump
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Anyone have suggestions for a good book about the Albigensian Crusade?
I'm writing a story whose setting depends on historical events from that period and I want to make sure it makes sense in context.
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>>25164004
The author did a 1 hour lecture version of the same thesis and it goes over everything much more succinctly and tightly.
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>>25191202
I should probably link it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRcu-ysocX4

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Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others.
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>>25191123
Did she mention… her white boyfriend anywhere?
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>>25191151
she has an older frumpy and unkempt muslim pakistani boyfriend her parents disapprove of. i think he's some radlib/anarchist fuck the man type. i dont know much else about her beyond that though other than this among whatever other mysterious things in her life weigh on her. not really my business and frankly not all too interested in learning more. probably typical approaching 30s unhappy with her life and circumstances type shit.
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>>25191164
>boyfriend her parents disapprove of
This would be the case for anyone who isn’t also Asian. Anyway, yeah, sounds like a pretty miserable life if you ask me.
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>>25191166
East Asian* should I say.
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>>25191102
>getting her horrific phenotype permanently attached to your body
>ruining your appearance and never getting laid again
>solely to honor a real nigga
pretty based for a basedboy

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I just ordered my first book & read ever. The divine Comedy
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What's in this poem!

I read pages on preview and I liked it
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>>25189941
Well… you can only really go downwards in quality from here, anon, there are but in my opinion a total of 5 other books that equal or (maybe) surpass LDC in quality.
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>>25189941
lol that's a very weird first book but good job.
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If it's your first time reading it, or any book, for that matter, you likely won’t understand Dante's constant references, which make up much of all three books.
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>>25191179
Beatrice was hideous. Dante wrote one of the greatest poems of all time, for that?!

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What do we think of Franzen?
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>>25190751
I've just read his essay on DFW's suicide. I own a copy of The Corrections but haven't read it yet. Both love and loathe his pretentiousness
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>>25190751
What a tryhard. Completely misses the heart of the matter on most things.
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>>25190751
FAS baby proselet. Asset flipped DF Wallace. Marginally less vulgar Updike reincarnation. Insipidly 'bourgeois'.
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I'm endlessly amused by everyone's cutting remarks; we're all just waiting to gush over your blog posts junior.
From the slush pile to tennis with DFW to Oprah's couch, he's making shit happen out there anon, try not to choke on your impotent rage.
Hey, if he's as shit as you say, then that means it must be easy to eclipse his sad output.
I'm just being harsh cause I'm trying to work his lit agent, every bit helps.
If Mailer called me 'an intellectual threshing machine's I'd take it and run.
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>>25190819
Less of a tryhard than 99% of /lit/ posters despite being more well read and being a better writer than any of them will ever be

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>At high school, Lenin fell in love with Latin. His headteacher had high hopes that he might become a philologist and Latin scholar. History willed otherwise, but Lenin’s passion for Latin, and taste for the classics, never left him. He read Virgil, Ovid, Horace and Juvenal in the original, as well as Roman senatorial orations. He devoured Goethe during his two decades in exile, reading and rereading Faust many times.

>Lenin put his knowledge of the classics to good use in the time leading up to the October revolution of 1917. In April of that year, he broke with Russian social-democratic orthodoxy and, in a set of radical theses, called for a socialist revolution in Russia. A number of his own close comrades denounced him. In a sharp riposte, Lenin quoted Mephistopheles from Goethe’s masterwork: “Theory, my friend, is grey, but green is the eternal tree of life.”

>Lenin knew better than most that classical Russian literature had always been infused with politics. Even the most “apolitical” of writers had found it difficult to conceal their contempt for the state of the country. Ivan Goncharov’s novel Oblomov was a case in point. Lenin loved this work.
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>>25191071
This is what I mean, /pol/ has destroyed your brain and you can only spam the words you were conditioned to repeat like a trained parrot like everything you don't like is ''far left'' and everyone who disagrees with you is a ''tranny''. It's like talking to braindead bots who spam the same 2 scripted lines over and over again. Go be obsessed with trannies on /pol/
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>>25191128
Whats your favorite translation then? The emily wilson one?
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Lenin was aryan
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>>25189548
You have to learn latin it raises your iq
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>>25191071
You can have reddit ill stay right here

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How do you from deism and the First Mover to Christianity other than by faith?
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>>25190641
What's the practical difference between panendeism and atheism?
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>>25190644
You believe meaning is an inherent facet of reality and that reality operates on a manner which is correspondent to the nature of god since creation is composed of god.
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>>25190646
I can believe all that and be an atheist simply by renaming "god" to "nature"
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>>25190639
Yes you do actually. You have made a truth claim "there is no God" or "Christianity is false" or whatever. Neither theism or atheism are neutral states, that belongs solely to agnosticism.
Provide me one proof for "God does not exist"
You obviously cannot do this so you resort to making up rhetorical rules
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>>25191178
Not that anon but I simply don’t see any reason to assent to the claim “God does exist” but that does not mean I will dogmatically assert that he doesn’t

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is this a good read? so far I read the intro and it felt kafka-like, it also feels very realistic the book talks about a Japanese guide who welcomes an American tourist called 'frank' and his first noticeable attribute mentioned by the narrator is his weight
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>>25187550
pretty crazy how many 80IQ people inhabit /lit/
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>>25187505

>The intertextual hauntology of White Boyfriend

>The Symbolic, the Imaginary, the White Boyfriend: developments in post-lacanian hermeneutics

>White or Boujee: performing White Boyfriend under neoliberal-subjectivity - a Marxist perspective.

Just sitting there guys, become the future
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>>25187503
it's pretty good
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>>25187792
you should see /sci/
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>>25187792
Pretty funny you think genre slop sold based on shock value is high IQ.

Do they count if you’re listening attentively?
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>>25187269
no
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>>25187269
Yeah, it's fine, I wouldn't listen to philosophy because that requires a lot of pausing and going back, but for a novel it's fine as long as you aren't distracted while doing it. On the treadmill at the gym for instance you are just as attentive as reading, or for me more attentive.
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I tried listening to audiobooks and hated it. Reading is much faster and you can quickly double take a paragraph or go back to a reference.
It's like interfacing with a phone computer versus desktop computer. You can compute so much better on a desktop/laptop, phones feel like shit.
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Everything was dictated in antiquity.
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Sure, why not. I usually use em for fiction rather than non-fiction as I don't pay quite as much attention as I should.

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is my prose decent or is it terrible and I should kms
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>>25190278
as I said my life is very boring
so if I were to only write about interesting things, I'd be writing about things I have zero experience with
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>>25189638
did you make this or is it AI
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>>25186529
splurged out stream of consciousness with zero real thought or effort put into making it concise or interesting. didn't bother to finish reading it, most people won't if you write crap like this. It's just self indulgent navel gazing with no real substance.
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>>25190414
That's not what he said, retard. He said, the piece has to be centred around something, anything, there has to be an actual point to what's being written, rather than it being an incoherent ramble.
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>>25190414
You're autistic. There are entire genres in the world of things that don't exist.

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ITT: we post pictures and recommendations for liturature based on the pictures.
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>>25190860
>A Sport and a Pastime by James Salter
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>>25190860
I have seen this woman delivering exceptionally sloppy top on pornhub?
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>>25190895
No you have not.
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>>25190860
She looks like a young Lorraine Braco (Bracco?) idk that woman from the sopranos.
>>25190895
You however, are Indian.


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