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Sky gets grey try not to get blue
You gotta get green it might help you get through
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https://strawpoll.com/w4nWWqvANnA
I made a poll about something I'm curious about, regarding /lit/'s userbase. The results are visible after voting.
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Life, I myself have punished it by living it.
Till where my heart could bear
boldly I ventured.
Now my day is nothing else
than a sterile alternation
of ruinous habits
and I long to break free from the black circle.
When to dawn I am reduced,
a fancy takes hold of me, a frenzy
not to sleep.
And I dream absurd departures,
impossible liberations.
Alas. All my pent-up
and burning remorse
has no other easement

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>>25181051
>not knowing what a verb or noun is
Why are you posting on /lit/, they teach this shit to 10 year olds
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I checked my butt with my hand. Yep, it was a shart.

Philosophy of Flamenco books?

Specifically philosophy: not history or art of flamenco.
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hijacking, because i wouldnt dare to post an actual music-related topic on /mu/, but how the fuck do i find other people who are interested in flamenco when im in a middle-sized-city not in spain, im reasonably good on guitar now, but i just dont have any fieldexperience, so im probably actually pretty shit if i have to accompy a dancer or a singer, but im so sick of playing alone
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>>25178871
That's tough buddy. Thoughts and prayers!
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Spain is underrated.
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>>25178871
do you want us to go out and live life for you?
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There is a small section on flamenco in Derek Bailey's "Improvisation: its nature and practice in music." I think that the field of critical improvisation studies might be the right track for you.

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Chtorr edition

Here we discuss any kind of science fiction and fantasy.

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
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FUCK he is good
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bakker has been reduced to 1/4 of the vote, used to be 1/3

https://strawpoll.com/XOgOVq3Dan3
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I don't know if I can do it. I don't know if I can finish it.
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>>25181625
Now you're trying waaaay too hard. 1/10 and I'm being generous.
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>>25181625
>>25181650
Bakker wishes he was half as good as Terry GOATkind.

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Other /latam/ reccomendations anons? I really loved this one, currently reading Bomarzo by Lainez as well
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>>25173472
mestizos are white now?
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>>25180314
>Ibarguengoitia
>His father, Alejandro Ibargüengoitia Cumming (Basque + English)
>he studied in schools that belonged to the Marist Brothers (French Catholic influence)
>and was a boy scout (American globohomo imprint)
>he received a Rockefeller grant to study in New York City (more American globohomo)
>Married to Joy Laville (ummmh, indigenous? Ah! No, wait, Anglo influence strikes again!)
>They settled permanently in Paris in 1980 (...)
>Died in Madrid (Hispania!)
Dude, what indigenous side does he lean on?
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>>25180746
>Just uncomfortable now.
tell us the story anon
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>>25181339
Lmao, I did not know he had such a cosmopolitan background since his books sound extremely mexican-idiosyncratic and the themes are quite crude. I guess it's just a facade.
He was born in Guanajuato to a poor family is what I knew.
Anyways, he does look mestizo, the last name does not say that much since all mexicans have spanish last names due to the evangelization. Cumming does mean his father did have some anglo background. But what about his mother? He does look typical mexican mestizo going by his looks.

Concerning the New York City rockefeller scholarship, he wrote a short story making fun of himself for giving himself up to the US: "La ley de Herodes".
https://ciudadseva.com/texto/la-ley-de-herodes/
I guess you can't translate it with AI or something if you don't read spanish.
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>>25180269
What the actual fuck are you on about?

I'm at a point in my life where I think I have a pretty good idea of what most people are like if I spend enough time with them, even if they aren't open about it. Except rich people, especially rich women. They're completely opaque, I can never know what they truly think or whether they really believe what they're saying. There's some non-rich people who also do that to me, but *all* rich people do it. It's like being unreadable is the essential skill to get there.
I also recently heard of the "novel of manners" genre, is there something like that for the modern west?
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>>25181530
>pissed off all the time that they have to deal with anything, do shit like have me change the booties (shoe protection) as I step from their porch to inside their house while carrying a 200 pound object just to fuck with you. They'll wait until 4:45 pm to mention that they have way more shit they want you to do etc. The idea that the people at their house are a company that works until 5 doesn't make any sense to them, because it's not what they want
Been in construction for years and i would say that's a lot of fuckers on a job site, but i absolutely agree people with richer backgrounds tend to not be as hard working. I swear every project manager i meet is a spoiled little rich kid who has no concept if what it us like to do the work he is directing grown men twice his age to do.
It is definetly true that some can get away without developing important skills like social skills or work skills and still get further going to college on daddies money and that a rich person is more likely to be used to getting their way. Gotta teach those little twerps.
But not everyone with a hard life is better for it.
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>>25181549
just move the refrigerators and color TVs tradie. no one wants to hear your lip.
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>>25181530
Alsoo i just realized i misread your post and you were referring to the homeowner and not foreman..
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>>25180706
As a poorfag I definitely don't understand the rich. If I were in their position I would be spending my money to make the world a better place, not hoarding it like fucking Smaug. But I guess thats why I'll never be rich. Not enough greed, not enough psychopathy.
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>>25181653
>If I were in their position I would be spending my money to make the world a better place
You would try then you would see almost all of that money not going to what you meant it for but instead redirected into the bank accounts of anyone who can get a tentacle on it. After a few futile go rounds of trying to circumvent this you would then rightly conclude that spending money to fix things is a futile enterprise because 99.9% of the people on this rock are selfish pieces of shit and will gladly step on anyone else to fulfill their own desires and make sure their children have more than yours.

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How the fuck does this get published?
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>>25181599
What did you think about the part where he works out velocity, acceleration, and time dilation issues for interstellar travel by applying newtonian physics?
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>>25181278
Artemis is set in 2080 and takes place on the moon. The characters talking are a 20yo Arabic smuggler, a 60yo Norwegian billionaire, and a 40yo shady merchant from Hong Kong

Does the dialogue ring true?
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>>25181618
at this point I assume humanity as a whole will continue our linguistic regression into ebonic babble talk. so no, if this 54 years is in the future they are speaking too eloquently. thanks television!
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>>25181630
>humanity as a whole will continue our
>our
Humanity should be singular, no?
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>>25181630
>at [sic] this point I assume humanity as a whole will continue our [sic] linguistic regression into ebonic babble talk [sic]. so [sic] no, if this 54 years is in the future [sic] they are speaking too eloquently. thanks television!
True.

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Did any of you guys read mack daddy's new poetry book?
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>>25177874
Why is every y2k poetry book ever so shite? Bros...
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>>25177874
Embarrassing
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>>25177874
This is a beautiful poem. Many (like the dasyus and danavas here) forget that the Lord Vishnu commands us to love each other. This is going to be a bestseller this summer in Kolkata, I tell you. Big Guru Daddy Mack has knocked it out of the park again!
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Poetry is just awful 99% of the time
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>>25177896
Jason Bryan and Lewis Woolston.

>>25179755
t. never read Chamber Music or Pomes Penyeach.

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Which hero from the three Greco-Roman epics is /lit/'s favorite? Picture of X-fags missing the point of the Iliad attached for entertainment purposes.
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>>25181573
No. Some of what i mentioned is in the play iirc but I prefer the version in posthomerica
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>>25181579
The kids were brownoid.
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>>25178905
>>25181063
>>25181475
Very valid. Menelaos and Ajax protecting Patroklos' body is one of my favorite parts of the story.

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So... the good guys won?
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>>25175037
It's extremely coincidental that Kellhus just so happens to position the No God between him and the White Luck Warrior at the exact right moment twice. It's also extremely coincidental that he brings the No God to the exact right place at the exact right time to get inserted right as he is manifesting Ajokli, especially since clearly he knows Esme will release him.

So, Kellhus somehow using the No God against the Hundred doesn't seem that far fetched.

As for him hiding in it, yeah, the missing trinkets on the carapace do get mentioned several times. But more telling in this is that the White Luck Warrior sees Malowebi in the Decapitant. That is, the Gods can see the people in them just fine, and presumably they can see them even better in the Golden Room since it is basically on the Outside already (a bubble floating on it as they say).

So, the second head seems like a red herring. The No God is a place where the Gods obviously cannot see. The other option is the scenes on the Outside seem to show Kellhus potentially constructing some sort of place for himself. So that could simply be it too.

But the No God is obviously the ideal tool if you actually want to somehow defeat or change the Hundred, since it starves them to death.

As for Kellhus seeing the No God, that's pretty clearly what the original vision was meant to show. It being Ajokli the whole time would be a plausible retcon, but it could also just be the No God and Ajokli only comes in when Kellhus comes to him as an "inverse prophet." The No God seems pretty thoughtless when destroying things, but if it is the "prothesis" for an AI that "reads the code of the world" then it presumably has more to say.
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>>25180914
No, not really.
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>>25180895
Achamian activates the doll before getting captured. This is literally stated.
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>>25181303
Yeah, I remember reading something of the sort as well. I mean, wouldn't he otherwise be surprised by seeing his own doll saving his own ass? Doesn't make sense to me.
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>>25163589
>>25163964
Their own mythic history says that they came from the stars and went underground to avoid being seen by the gods. Their origin is probably related to that of the incheroi, they've just forgotten. They hid from the gods (damnation) and succeeded in erasing the memory of it, but not the thing itself.

Are these good books for kids to read?
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>>25159915
One of the two series i actually enjoyed reading as a kid, yes.
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>>25180771
Its not reading
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>>25180458
>Doesn’t even know what a thermal is>
>>25180710
Doesn’t even know what a thermals is>
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>>25180458
>Doesn’t even know what a thermal is>
>>25180710
>Doesn’t even know what a thermal is>
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>>25160145
Me abd my best friend would clown on Harry Potter enjoyers at school but then spend hours listening to the audiobooks. We were 12 lol.

Thrice greatest edition

>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·
>>25103936

>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw

>Mέγα τὸ ANE·
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg

>Work in progress FAQ
https://rentry dot co/n8nrko

All Classical languages are welcome.
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>>25181137
forget Latin, even in my own mother language writing a book or essay takes time, time is money, I won't start doing either soon because who the fuck cares or is going to read some mediocre nobody or pay me to do it at the very least, should I therefore doubt my ability to do it? I don't think so
with an ancient dead language that isn't even used as lingua franca of sciences anymore it would be even more fruitless, especially as a hobbyist
nevertheless I write some Latin every week, it may not be much but whatever
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If you know ancient Greek, have you tried learning modern Greek? Why or why not?
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>>25181451
i did and it just sounds like ebonics to me. Imagine going from Victorian English to AAVE
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>>25181451
no, despite the amazing level of continuity considering it's been 2000+ years it's still a different language, with that time I could profit more from learning a big Romance language like French or Spanish(being already a native in one), but I'm too saturated already
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>>25181256
>should I therefore doubt my ability to do it? I don't think so
Yes. You should. Doesn’t mean you ought to spend the time doing it, it just means you shouldn’t be a braggart and claim to be a better author than a native Roman who has actually authored something.

This might be the last Aristotle topic that is still vexing to me, but how exactly does the Unmoved Mover work as a first final cause and/or a first efficient cause?

So, I get that the final cause has to be prior to the efficient cause. But is the Unmoved Mover an efficient cause of anything?

My problem is that in Metaphysics Lambda, the Unmoved Mover is not described as an efficient cause, but only as a final cause. Aristotle also affirms in Lambda that motion has to be eternal (IIRC comes from Physics VIII), which seems to imply that the universe has an infinite chain of efficient causes. So, you get this picture of there being two eternal principles: the Unmoved Mover, and the cosmos in motion.

However, in Metaphysics Little Alpha, 994a, Aristotle argues precisely against the idea that you can have an infinite chain of even efficient causes. So, it seems like the idea that there are two coexisting eternal principles idea is wrong, since the cosmos cannot be the infinite chain of eternal causes that it appears to be. However, Aristotle does not fix the problem and call the Unmoved Mover an efficient cause at any point whatsoever.

I am not sure how to rectify this. Any thoughts? I think the idea might be that "eternal things can be infinite sources, and since motion is eternal, there can be infinite efficient causes in a temporal sense", but this might be a copout.

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Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others.
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>>25143522
>Each word she spoke fell into the earth.
That's a really good line, anon.
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>>25180143

How? It's quite pedestrian
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I’ve been on my own, I’ve been looking at my phone,
I dream of you but goon alone.
Moral panic where’d you go?
Sit and watch the final show.

On my way to work, watching booty twerk.
VR commute the only perk.
All the forests underground.
Hardcore porno all around.

Back inside my cave, gooning all I crave,
This is how I must behave.
If I stop, I think I’d cry.
Edgemax daily till I die.


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wmbf > wmaf

Because their ‘love’ is cold tea and textbook smiles,
a game of checkers where no one gasps, no one moans, no one truly bleeds.
Whilst theirs, his, hers,
is fire and teeth,
flesh and conquest,
the only sin worth committing.
He doesn’t look at them.
In a world that crowns other unions as ideal,
he chooses her, dark, radiant, commanding,
seeking the fullness that answers him in her.
He doesn’t want their thighs as thin as incense sticks,
nor their sighs that taste of nothing.
He wants fire.
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I'll Miss You (Sierra)\:
this will be a chat for my poetry. please give an analysis for each. here is the first one i'll share:

I'll Miss You (Sierra)\:
Swirling specter; whirling dervish!
Exorcism's ghastly skirmish!
Show to me your purest soul
Placid life is not your role!

Lost! possessed! by beauty's sight,
A haunting ghost, your poltergeist!
I beg thee strike with flying chairs,
Prove your spirit's presence here.

Impassioned heart that never leaves

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Should Nobel Literature Prize laureates be selling A.I.-generated slop novels?
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>>25180102
he was just never a genuinely political person. the protest songs were just about capitalizing on the dominant trends at the time
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>>25177124
They should give him the Nobel War Prize and the Nobel Peace Prize
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>>25179661
What is BOM?
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>>25180553
Just some shit that is self-shilled by some spic. Ignore.
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>>25180553
The Book of Marlon. I think there's a free copy floating around somewhere if you look for it.

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/lit/ threadshots thread. I'll start with my favourite.
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>>25178139
I'm glad mr Pharaoh (1999) is doing better but
>My fiancee [...] left me for a Proust scholar on the West Coast
is an all time banger
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>>25178139
I’d read a book about Husserl anon and I’d read his book on Husserl. I’m not even all that versed in phenomenology
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>>25178139
never seen the followup. I choose to believe this is real, happy everything turned out well for him :)
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