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What is the most beautiful love letter you've read?
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>>24631976
I'm not saying you're wrong but you're also gay for knowing this
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>>24631070
Based as fuck. This is true love.
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>>24630915
One written to me from my ex. We used to write handwritten letters to each other when we were dating and exchange them every Saturday in person. I will probably never be able to do that with a woman again, but it was very cute and sweet.
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>>24634812
did you save them?
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>>24630915
Used to wank to this troon in darker days

Demons, Angels, and Everything In-Between Edition

FAQ:
>What is worldbuilding?
Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.
>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"
Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.
>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"
If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.
>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"
Yes, of course you can!
>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"
Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.

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Is "Historical setting but with magic" a good basis for worldbuilding or is it too cliche after A Song of Ice and Fire?
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>>24634067
IIRC, A Song of Ice and Fire can barely be considered “historical”.
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Considering Lucifer is mentioned as the "ruler of this world" I wonder if I could get away with lesser demons "ruling" other planets in my setting or if I'm ripping off Space Trilogy.
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>>24635149
Ive never even heard of that so I'd say youre good.
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A fantasy world where male elves look like female elves. Elves can tell the difference, but humans unfamiliar with elves cannot.

That or all elves are female.

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How true will it be to the original story?
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>>24635931
dont you have a protest to be at
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>>24628022
thanks for tacitly admitting that niggers are disgusting and that casting them as icons of european culture is intentional defacement. i'm sure those niggers will be very happy when they figure out that's what they're for
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>>24635933
Shouldn't you be seething about browns and trannies ruining your life for breathing?
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>>24636003
why would I they neck fo three
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>>24620837
>>>24620665
since I don't want to make another thread, what version of the aenied is closest to Alexander Pope's odyssey translations? something that plays a little fast and loose with the exact meanings but renders it in rhyming couplets with a strict meter (and doesn't go too heavy on enjambment for the sake of maintaining meter).

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HP Lovecraft's 135th birthday (August 20th) is exactly one week away. How will you be celeberating?
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eh I'm more of a W Chambers fan
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Going outside, having a picnic with my friends, and making sweet sweet love to the first ethnically ambiguous woman I see
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I should start reading volume 3 of his Collected fiction.

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There are a lot of novels that capture male loneliness. But are there any good ones that capture female loneliness?
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>>24634304
Loneliness isn't lack of access to people or lack of access to sex, it's the lack of substantial emotional connection to others. Lots of lonely people have some kind of social and sex life. You can have some people who're your friends, but you don't confide in or show your truest self to. Lots of posters here are lonely men who fuck women they can't relate to emotionally. Likewise, just because women have access to mediocre dick whenever they want it, they can still be lonely.
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Two books I read come to mind, although both are not about really normal women.

In "I who have never known men" (harpman) the protagonist is the only young woman in a small group of otherwise older women. Those are literally the last people on the planet (which is not earth). So it is a weird sci-fi situation, but the woman is definitely very alone. Might be a bit autistic or just numb from trauma, idk.

In "convinience store woman" (murata) the protagonist is a Japanese woman, possibly schizoid, and thus a weird mentalcel. She finds a red pilled man later to maybe live together with. Relatively short. Ends a bit abruptly. Idk if the woman really feels alone. More like an outsider, scared of a society that might want to get rid of her for being too weird.

Did that help you?
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>>24636002
the key phrase here is "mediocre dick". have they even tried to talking to the men?
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>>24636002
not to mention acquiring sex for a woman is very easy. the same can't be said for men who can't even get either.
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>>24634295
Doesn't exist.

"No Country For Old Cthulhus" edition

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Please limit excerpts to one post.
Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.
Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.
If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.
Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.
(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)

Simple guides on writing:

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Am I too fucking schizo to write normal prose? Am I too incapable to write normal literature?

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>>24636333
Your story doesn't make sense. I'm reminded of trying to read MTL'd stories.

I don't like your prose, but that's a subjective thing. I've just read too many WNs to enjoy artistic prose. I'm certain there are people that specifically like that kind of prose though. But! The story has to make sense.
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>>24636363
Yeah I drunk too deep from Calvinist metaphysics and Old Testament horror, so it requires different presuppositions. I should probably "reprogram" myself on lighter fictions, and maybe go back to my "romcom" draft. Or write another draft.
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>>24636333
>Am I the universe's special little prince
no
delusions of grandeur are conductive only to mediocrity
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>>24636333
There's obviously a shitload of ability there anon, and I get you sense you had a good time writing this, but I don't think it quite works. is it an explicable scene, or was it written to be purely evocative ?

There's this debate going on in adv about whether zoophilia is morally reprehensible or not and they provided an academic defense for it, which I'll link below.

https://journalofcontroversialideas.org/article/3/2/255/htm

I'm not an expert in philosophy by any means, but I do know that there is something very wrong with the arguments that some of the anons are making. If there's an intelligent way that I can refute and hopefully discredit this article, I'd be very much in your debt if anyone here could help me.
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>>24634565
>gross

Subjective assessment. Factory farming is arguably far more gross.

>unnatural

Adoption is unnatural. Homosexuality is unnatural. Dying your hair a different colour is unnatural. Braces are unnatural.
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>>24630177
Can animals consent to sex with each other?
If not, should we stop them?

>>24630295
>Do you ask baby chickens for consent before shoveling them into a macerator?
That's bad too. People shouldn't eat meat or eggs.
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>>24630112
>>24633512
Homosexuality isn't special in this regard.
The disgust I feel when seeing men kiss is the same as seeing old people, or two really fat, ugly, lesbians kiss. It's not innate revulsion to homosexuality, but an innate and completely natural revulsion towards unattractive people expressing gross sexuality.
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>>24634166
They were the ones who said "on a purely academic standpoint" and "this is a known issue in philosophy," opening the door to the actual positions of the majority of professional academic philosophers.
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>>24632935
but women do?

anyways, consent is a retarded concept. let me rape in peace.

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Have you read his comedies? He makes fun of feminism and women in power; Assemblywomen is a satire of Athenian women taking over and establishing sexual equity for ugly incels.
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any Plautuschads in?
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>>24636069
all hail the ancient shitposter
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>>24635181
>Have you read his comedies?
Yes; they're all brilliant. Celebrants of the Thesmophoria is equally brutal about women, with extra dunking on Euripides and Agathon on top, and of course, everyone who exalts Host-Disbander as a feminist text can't have read even the first lines of the play.

>There are a lot of things about us women / That sadden me, considering how men / See us as rascals.
>As indeed we are!
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>>24636069
Plautus is enjoyable both for himself and for the fact that in him you can trace the origins of the entire European comedy as far as Molière. IMO his best is The Little Pot.
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>>24636026
>the idea of it (ancient people saying stupid shit) than the actual content of it (gender wars).
But that's neither the content but the idea.
Watch this if you're unfamiliar with Peloponnesian war, you can start at lecture 17 https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL023BCE5134243987
It was a really shitty time for Athenians, and unbelievably shitty for those who lived outside the city walls (after watching lectures 17-18 read Acharnians).

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>It was dark and stormy night cyka blat. High above St Petersburg proper, church bells was like ex-wife: both made ringing sound after being struck. Sun had gone down, and night was come up. I had nightly appointment with the мepтвaя pыбa's barstool and vodka bottle blyat — and I was never late.
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This, to me (a non-Russian), is fun and dreamy and not only in a rambunctious pastiche-y sort of way and I wish to read the continuation.

Well done, oh pee.
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>Two day and night I hang like bat from Zubyanka's mast, before crew discovers forgiveness and cut me down. Thencefore I mince backwards to cabin and sulk happily until parrot-lady promises "I shall do anything to make you forgive us." I tell her what is need. Therefore Captain two-peg and Lady parrot and three horrible children proceed to, as was my wish, pile their every possession in middle of my room to satisfy my desire for muchness. The work take three day, and consumes all objects on the ship, until the pile fills entire room, and big holes are taken from the ship. To our surprise the ship sinks because of big holes taken for treasure-pile, and we are thrown into the wretched Baltic sea, whose water is like shit after too much bad wine.
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>>24635692
spasiba
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keep going snoopy
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>In Baltic Sea we go down in following order: Captain Peg, Lady Parrot, horrible children, finally myself, with each stand on previous head, like trapeze artist, so that my head is the only one above water, and all else drown. Wretched water very cold, and in effect make me complete sober — first time in twenty-five year. When I become sober I remember: "I know how swim", and proceed swim five versta into fair city Gdansk, and the Polish women (who make ex-wife look like Natalya Goncharova suka blyat) to get celebrate sober living and overcoming Balticophobia with big bottle vodka.

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It's incredibly sad how well this book has aged. Mearsheimer may be incredibly hit or miss like all realist school types, but I was very impressed with how much he hit the nail on the head with this book, and I also see why it cause such a massive firestorm on release back in the day given he was the first serious American foreign policy figure to approach and address the issue.
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>>24635392
Very good, Hamas asset. Be aware.
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>>24625443
Arab Christians aren't the same as Western Christians (they're typically actual Christians) and the West shouldn't have any interest in them being protected, objectively speaking.
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Israel First
109 counties
Mossad Killed JFK
Epstein
Invented pornography
USS Liberty
I’m not dying for Israel
Just noticing
Why can’t I criticize Israel
Israel is Genocidal
Israel has become a Nazi state
Netanyahu is Satan
Free Palestine
FARA
Resistance is justified

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>>24619725
>Without realizing it, many people, who might dislike the influence that this crime family has had, have already been subverted. They are already playing into a kind of hegelian dialectic that's been set up, by accepting – without question – the central claim of identity made by these people. In reality, that claim shouldn't go unquestioned, and if you really try to break their claims down analytically into explicit and unambiguous assertions without the possibility for fuzzy definitions, the whole thing quickly falls apart. These people actually have nothing to do with the ancient Jews mentioned in the Bible. The mistake so many people have made is to not even think to question this basic assertion, which they always insist on making – but to foolishly accept their claims on face value. In doing so, anyone who tries to oppose these people, while still mistakenly recognizing them as "Jews," only becomes a supporting stereotype that unintentionally supports and reinforces these peoples' fallacious and ahistorical claims. One of their central fallacies is that they regularly make and assert an identity and heritage for themselves that they have no real, factual significant connection to.


do you have any recommended further readings that talk about this more in depth?
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>>24636335
I'd recommend the three books mentioned here: >>24619858 especially the third one. The book "Judaism Discovered" gives some good starting material, making it a lot more accessible to the English reader. It is a pretty comprehensive study on the subject, whether or not you agree with some of the writer's conclusions (I agree with some but not others myself).

If you want more of a comparative in-depth study between it and the Bible (including the Torah) try the 1880 book, "The Old Paths, or the Talmud Tested by Scripture" by Alexander McCaul. I recommend that book highly for its rigor and careful investigation of the facts. Truly a forgotten gem.

And of course, the overall Christian perspective on this subject is best represented by the Bible itself. I have to say, you'd be surprised how few people have really taken the time to dig deep there compared to those who only scratch the surface a little bit but without really connecting the dots, and there's plenty of good insight (historical, moral, etc.) to be found there. While modern Talmudic belief system may not actually be related to the Biblical Jews, it is still definitely an existence among the class of "Judaizing" heresies – making it similar to Hebrew Roots, Christian Zionism, hyper-dispensationalism, and the dual covenant theology of people like Hagee, as well as some even more obscure stuff that's out there – all of which St. Paul and others denounced so strongly in the New Testament. This is of course in addition to its similarities to gnosticism, which is also denounced several places in its own right (see Colossians and 1 John for example). Hope that helps, anon.

this shit is bussin. completely mogs paradise lost. three cantos in and there have been like 5 plot twists already.
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>>24636244
The critical tradition generally points me in the direction of what might be worthwhile to engage with. But I have my own taste and preferences and sometimes works, like Paradise Lost, simply fail the feelings test. No amount of criticism in the world will likely change the actual experience of engaging with the poem for me. I can then attempt to articulate why I think I dislike it just as I can try to articulate why I like some other work. The two primary feelings that Milton inspires in me are boredom and fatigue.
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>>24636281
That’s a lotta words to say “filtered”
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>>24636286
Based NPC
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>>24633995
>completely mogs paradise lost
I'LL KILL YOU! I'LL FUCKING KI— oh wait, you said Paradise Lost. MB, I misread it as the Divine Comedy somehow. Yeah PL is pretty clunky, have fun with Spenser.
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>>24636281
Relying on 'the feelings test' alone in the judgement of a work of art is simply too subjective. First of all, you should be modest enough to believe that, if you are having difficulty appreciating the work of a universally recognised genius, the issue most likely lies with you, and from then on you should make the effort to properly appreciate them. Secondly, you should be able to intricately describe the technical makeup of a work of art and artist's style. Ask yourself, can you really describe what you think is great about the poetry of a poet you like, without vague emotional responses? If not, then you need to study metre and all the other technical elements of poetry, and you need to read critical commentary. Because we must always remember that 'Art' is also art in the most literal sense of the word, a craft. It is something that demands intellectual and technical comprehension just as much as emotional. Very often, if someone studies in detail a famous artwork that they formerly had no appreciation for, they will begin to understand what is so great about it and experience a newfound emotional reaction. Theory and feelings are not opposed in art, they are inextricably linked. Now, you may dislike Milton, whether due to personal disposition or because you've developed an intelligent and well-reasoned critique, but disliking him for never inspiring any feelings other than 'boredom and fatigue' is really entirely disconnected from objective analysis. It is impossible to at the same time have a good understanding of poetry and then find not a single line in Milton that is emotionally moving. As but one example of the value of critical tradition, I would direct you to read Keat's personal response to Paradise Lost, Book 9, lines 179-91, beginning with 'So saying, through each Thicket Danck or Drie' and ending with 'Disturbd not, waiting close th’ approach of Morn':

>Satan having entered the Serpent, and inform'd his brutal sense - might seem sufficient - but Milton goes on "but his sleep disturb'd not". Whose spirit does not ache at the smothering and confinement - the unwilling stillness - the "waiting close"? Whose head is not dizzy at the possible speculations of satan in the serpent prison - no poetry ever can give a greater pain of suffocation.

Having read those lines yourself, do you not feel a similar response as Keats?

What's some bleak literature about death?
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>>24636248
can you tell me about this book or post an excerpt? never heard of it before.
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>>24636346
>In the heart of Bogota's Rue Morgue, renowned death photographer Tsurisaki Kiyotaka captures the life's work of embalmer Froilan Orozco. Orozco, with decades of handling the deceased, from murder victims to the elderly, offers a raw and unfiltered look into the world of cadaver preparation. This documentary is a stark, unblinking journey into a profession shrouded in mystery and mortality. Massacre Video proudly unveils the definitive release of OROZCO THE EMBALMER in a stunning new high-definition master. This landmark release, presenting the documentary in it's most visceral and unfiltered form, is a bold testament to the unvarnished realities of death. Fully uncut and uncensored, it's an uncompromising exploration not for the faint of heart.

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How do you power through a boring book? I'm stuck on vacation with it
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>>24632233
Depends on why it's boring and why you want to finish it.
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>>24632233
Push through it. Had this happen several times. Books aren't an immediate gratification. Do it before the contents are soiled inside of you anon. JUST PUSH THROUGH.
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Glaze over / fast read the obvious boring parts. If there is something worthy to read, your unconscious brain will let you know.
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>>24634681
Um, fuck Terry Davis
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>>24632233
play tetris while listening to it on audiobook

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>7 volumes
>4,215 pages
>the only thing anyone remembers about it is one passage about a cookie from the very beginning
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>>24635107
You are gay, and jewish. With extreme mommy issues
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Modern literature as an aesthetic of categorical experience has the division at least into at least the 3 categories of phantasmorgia or nostalgia or hypnogogia. These are also movements of awareness or the understanding so the aesthetic movement of a paragraph in proust is similar to the movement of hegelian dialectic moving through a phenomenonology of mind. With proust is brought into the idea too that ok these are divisions of experience being made according to an ideal of a literary piece or writing.
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>>24635733
2/3
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>>24635039
>Oh to be a pseud
It is slop. It's a soap opera for women.
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Edward Gorey loved Proust and because I love Gorey I will (eventually) also read the entire thing.

How could a man be so right?
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>>24636279
The easy answer? He was Christian


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