On December 4th, George R R Martin handed in a finished manuscript of Winds of Winter. I took notes as I reviewed the book. I did not read it in full and in depth, but skimmed for my job. I expect the news to break next week, so here's the rough story by chapter for all my buddies here.There are 96 chapters. I will summarize each one briefly. Sadly the storyline does somewhat follow the show.>Epilogue - Forley PresterPOV is a knight of Lannister escorting Rob's wife and Uncle to Casterly Rock. Snows have slowed them down so they are weeks late. One night a wolfpack led by Arya's wolf attacks the host killing everyone>Chapter 1 - Daenerys IDany is being 'escorted' by the Dothraki back to Vaes Dothrak for judgement. She sent away Drogon and was caught, but the dragon is circling. She is considering her fate all the while the dragon circles overhead. Her thoughts about Mereen and her Brother continue to develop and shape the rest of the book.>2 - Cersei IIn the aftermath of Kevan's death, Cersei is completely shut down with rage feeling powerless. Mace arrived the morning of and put the castle under protective lockdown and Cersei is 100% convinced that Margery is fucking Tyrion, and planning on killing Tommen. Cersei is banned from seeing Tommen given her trial and she is also convinced the Tyrells killed Jamie. Qyburn does his best to manage her as the trial approaches
YOU FUCKING LIAR
>>25000383Two more weeks, trust the plan
Nope I am not reading that shit real or not. I just do not care. Tell George the best he can do for his series is leave it unfinished.
>>25006915Euron is SauronSaruman who is initially good, joins Sauron. Saruman is like Leyton Hightower who will ally with Euron
OP massive faggot
Discuss good narrative history books on any subject.>1776 is a nonfiction historical account written by David McCullough and published in 2005 by Simon & Schuster, focusing on the military campaigns of the American Revolutionary War during that pivotal year, particularly General George Washington's leadership of the Continental Army against British forces under General William Howe.https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77347.1776https://www.audible.com/pd/1776-Audiobook/B002V8KSTW
>>25006269I own this paperback is it worth slogging through. I really love that time period, the Baroque period.
Anyone have Roman recs?I’ve read Mary Beard and Adrian Goldsworthy. What next?Also anything you consider top tier about antiquity. The absolute best you’ve ever read.
>>25007174I guess picrel, I bought on impulse, though.
>>25007174>Anyone have Roman recs?The Rise of Rome: The Making of the World's Greatest Empire by Anthony EverittA Noise of War: Caesar, Pompey, Octavian and the Struggle for Rome by A.J. LangguthTen Caesars: Roman Emperors from Augustus to Constantine by Barry Strauss
South Africa's Border War is pretty interesting.
>learning spanish on Duolingo>go to local library for first time in 5 years to find some books in spanish to complement my Fuolingo learning>pass kids/youth area>virtually every book being promoted is either tranny lgbt shit or obvious anti-white shit>all the staff are lumpy misshapen dykes and they/thems
>>25004721what the fuck was the point of the duolingo part of the story
>>25004842damn have you learned how to say ‘the bear drinks milk’ yet
>>25004842Duolingo generally doesn't actually work well, it is intended to keep you forever learning without actually learning the language. Spanish is one of the easiest languages to learn though so it is much more possible to learn a basis on DuolingoThat you go to the public library for Spanish books doesn't make sense to me though, just use your kindle
>>25004721Please do not mention Spain, Latin America, or the Spanish language here. They have their own board. (/his/)/lit/ is for the anglos and the jews and the jews pretending to be anglos who don't like jews to trigger other jews because they think its funny.
>>25004721read online stuff or watch anime with spanish dub
it precludes us from staying in touch with the primal reality of change & becoming. to intellectually apprehend it isn't the same as directly experiencing itthus, consumption of the apollonian drug must ceaseor is it congenial to indulge in psychostimulants to our hearts' content; thereby ignoring heraclitus' moving world for the sake of a still world? but is there such thing? a still world
Stims are Dionysian.Downers are Apollonian.I won't elaborate.
>>25007370I disagree >>25007419I'm coming for/on your mom
>>25007563The Dionysus we know is technically a mistake in production.>>25007573We are on the same side, it seems. Go after OPs mom instead!
>>25007636sure thing! she's a firecracker. got tits and ass for days.
>>25007370this substance is subtly responsible for half of the ills of modern civilization but this redpill might be too heavy for most of you
The results of the 2025 poll for /lit/'s Top 100 books.It was a lot of work running the polls and making the chart, but it's worth it to keep this board's annual tradition alive. Thanks for voting!
fuck man, why does it feel this list is getting more redditified y/y?
>>25007584>reddit>bible no 1lmao, no
I would like to shill "The Little Prince" for your consideration. I think it deserves to be on the list more than something like Alice in Wonderland (Through the Looking Glass is better anyway).
>>25007587“more reddified”, not “omg this place is literally r/books now!”
>>25007594alice in wonderland is both alice's adventures in wonderland and through the looking glass
Books that debunk the Protestant Work Ethic and the idea that you are wasting your life if you aren't Accomplishing Something™ at every single moment in your life?
>>25007183Rent free
>>25007225>>25007271Brown hands typed this
>>25007481I am an Amerimutt, senior El Ogro.
>>25007621Stop calling yourself that and stick up for yourself. Without the Enlightenment civilizing the browns where we be?
>>25007093>Books that debunk the Protestant Work Ethic the talmud, it trounced it in fact
guys i don't think the greeks were human
>>25007444stfu i can't say faggot and nigger on twitter.
>>25007451You can't say it on /lit/ either
>>25007451We are in 2026 my guy, you can absolutelly say nigger and faggot in Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and 4chan.
>>25007437Fuck off with this platonist crap, the Stoics were the real greek philosopher who surpassed Ar*stotle and Pl*to, however their advanced metaphysical and logical writings were burned by the christcucks because the stoics were materialists, i.e. not useful for the christcuck grift, unlike pl*to and ar*stotle, who never surpassed the sophists. Fortunately we can still read the writings of Zhu Xi, who discovered the same truths that the stoics did.
>>25007498>however their advanced metaphysical and logical writings were burned by the christcucks because the stoics were materialistsStoics weren't materialists also if they hated them as much as you said we wouldn't have so many surviving manuscripts from Stoic writers
start doing this
>>25002945gb2 OF
/lit/ meetup in Nepal?
>>25004033Where in Canada? I just divorced my wife and am living with my parents again and I would enthusiastically join and help grow your book club.
>>25007513IqaluitGettin freaky with Eskimo babes
>>25006141>See this is where they lost you, it's nazi shit for a politician he stopped reading there.That's why they're idiots. They don't even realize that the German Studentenverbindung were a vital force against the nazis and disbanded by the Reich as such. The organic conception of culture formulated by such brilliant German luminaries as Fichte and Schlegel is antithetical to all totalitarian movements. Just like a socially minded fraternity founded in the democratic notions of ijma and shura is a bulwark against radicalism, a genuine conservative ethos which uplifts its members and empowers them towards the great work of self-actualization and realization of universal brotherhood through the particular values of our national culture.>>25006049>>25007513Currently in Toronto. It's okay but I've been here too long. If I get a job offer I'm moving to Montreal.
You HAVE read The Waste Land, the most important poem of the 20th century, right? I see a serious lack of poetry discussion on /lit/ and it makes me suspect its posters of that rather common disease of the 21st century autodidact, a preference for prose over poetry.
>>25006957>English poetry heavenftfy. Poetry is the natural literary form of English.
>>25006957English monolinguals always bemoan their fate as if English culture is subpar to the rest of Europe yet readily profit from the fact that English has the most diverse literature of any European language. It's very strange.
>>25007590It doesn't feel diverse to me. I wish I could read Latin, French and Russian. English hadn't cool stuff going on and our language just doesn't have the same capability and aesthetician value
>>25003798Schopenhaur says TRAGEDY. I assume most of the Greeks and Romans would have agreed.
>>25007600English literature has evolved over the ages more than the literature of any other country and at the same time has been subject to the influences of foreign literature more than any other country. No other language has been more experimentally used, more subject to constant innovation and reformation. So many poets have sweated under the effort of approximating Latin grammar or metre in English, so many have transposed French styles and cadences to English. With Slavic languages admittedly there is less linguistic transference but at least there are Conrad and Nabokov who may give a certain Slavic flavour to the English language. Any language that contains Beowulf, Chaucer, Shakespeare, Milton, Pope, Wordsworth, Yeats, Eliot and Pound is a master-language.
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>>25001982Slopenour and nitchee btfo once again.
>>25003525Suck my dick dalit
>>25004626How does one learn the ways of the bear?
>>25007564>modernist indianAs I said, you need to be beheaded
>>25007619I'm not a pajeet, you retarded buddcel. You buddhers are as insufferable as christcucks.
New year edition>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·>>24956717>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw>Mέγα τὸ ANE·https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg>Work in progress FAQhttps://rentry dot co/n8nrkoAll Classical languages are welcome.
the greeks in my mind keep waging war against the romans. as soon as I wake up I hear their bitching. fuck this thread for introducing these two into my mind. fuck you.
I am rereading Longus once more, just because the novel offers so much that may not be apparent at first glance. First instance, the novel itself as a “pastoral” linking itself to the sprawling landscapes it describes in the text.>>Pointed verbal echoes support an interpretation of the rural space as a mirror of the text: the narrator wishes that his narrative be a “delightful property” ( ktema terpnon) just as the estate is called a “most beautiful property” ( ktema kalliston). Strikingly, the same verb ( ekponoumai) is used for the labour of the narrator and the work of Philetas on his garden. Longus, it seems, gives a nod here to Theocritus who employs that very word when he refers to the the poet Philetas of Cos. The garden as a combination of nature and art mirrors an art that “imitates and improves upon nature” (553). So it is like a Russian nesting doll. You have the pastoral landscape and you have the pastoral novel above it like a work of art that encapsulates nature. The verbal echoes here are quite clear. Also noticeable is the wolf imagery for sexual deviancy->Gnathon (Jaws) the elderly pederast ie wolf jaws>Daphnis falling into a wolf trap where he meets Chloe>Dorco dressed as a wolf to pounce on Chloe>Lycanion (wolf woman) the prostitute
>>25007053I must pay respects to Longus by reading his novel again. It's been a while plus I'm no longer that green so much more should it be appreciated. Read Cervantes' version of the pastoral La Galatea. He completely breaks the rules in this one. Should increase the chuckles if you are aware of them. He comes out swinging.
What's the most accurate YouTube recital of the original Iliad to listen to?
>>25007077It is secretly a right wing novel for the modern reader. It would appeal in today’s political climate even more than its original day I think. >urbanites as all deviant homosexuals (Gnathon) and lascivious prostitutes (Lycanion)>the pastoral land as pure and urbanity as a blight>Nature over nurture as the main duo believe themselves to be children of shepherds but only when it’s revealed they’re both offspring of aristocrats is their love truly blessed>good breeding as inherent to nature of aristocrat class This stuff all makes the novel a timeless classic of right wing thought.
Need it or keep it?
>>25007242>They say she is no more,that there her absence roars,Where is 'there'? I like the idea of an absence or lack of something 'roaring'. It's like a thunderous silence or something similar but that doesn't excuse the reference to a place that is then not named or expanded upon.>Blood-blown like a rose.Are roses known to be blood-blown? This simile doesn't make sense unless I am missing a specific reference or context to something. Or is this a continuation of the last line and the comparison is between the rose and her absence (ie: both of them roar blood-blown). In either case I don't follow the simile.>Iced wheel flinched & frozeI think this is nonsense because she wanted to incorporate I.C.E. Or is THIS the simile comparing the rose to the iced wheels? I cannot understand how wheels could flinch. I can imagine wheels stuttering (like slamming down the brake pedal with ABS) or slurring or meandering or freezing or skidding, but I cannot really understand what wheels 'flinching' would evoke.>Now, bare riot of candles,>Dark fury of flowers,>Pure howling of hymns.I guess the point here is the contrast of peaceful, calm subjects (candles, flowers, hymns) with violent actions (riot, fury, howling). I think there should have been an alliteration in the first of these three lines as the three are obviously connected and it's silly to have only two of the three linked lines have alliteration.>If for us she aroseComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25007577>Change is only possible,>& all the greater,Given that change is ONLY possible as Gorman describes, a form of [lesser] change that does not involve the labour of neighbors being moved by love etc... is not possible.>When the labor>& bitter anger of our neighborsI think this is suggesting that bitter anger of neighbors is a bad thing. (I assume this poem is anti-ICE rhetoric and calls out people who report their neighbors as illegals). If this is the case it seems somewhat hypocritical because 'bitter anger' feels pretty in line with the 'bare riot' and 'dark fury' that is expressed by the good guys in the first stanza.>Is moved by the love>& better angels of our natureI feel that this would work better if the subject was the neighbors themselves and not the anger and labour that was moved by angels.>What they call death & void,>We know is breath & voice;I would love to know why Gorman used a semi-colon for this line and only this line.>In the end, gorgeously,Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25007577Dude give her a break she's just a stupid nigger. At least she's not rapping.
>>25007242i am stunned. a masterwork that just may change the conversation
>>25007242I don't care what that dumb lady did, no one deserves to have a poem written about them by Amanda Gorman.
Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others.
Looking for recommendations for a handheld book of poetry, something that can fit in my pocket. The Norton Anthology doesn't quite cut it at the moment.Here's a haiku to support the thread:wind falls on pagessunlight breathes life into wordsearth has given thus
These lines get sent like prayers In secular lands Not to the high heaven aboveNot to beauty making its own waysYour eyes of frozen ink and saltOnly made for the ribbon of sleep.Tomorrow is where good intentionsAre stored, where love growsYes, there’s hopeless blood And endless, crushing toil -The boat with its mocking holeSilver bucket, always at hand Romantic just as any lost cause Might not make it to shore Might never marry skin with sand
They tell us not to hateHoney catches fliesThen it's too lateCorpse sweetened by lies
These dots holographicglittering passporton a desk in an officeof the porn inspector general
Gayyyy ahhh thread
It seems rock solid. Totally impenetrable. How do you even argue against rational Egoism?
>>25006451Yes but you wouldn't get it.
unbelievably retarded thread from OP. The entire concept of egoism is pure evidence of everything Wittgenstein saying being correct.Part of the problem with certain "truths" is the idea that they must be disproved before proven, so some retard can arbitrarily define everything in an emptily hollow way that circularly validates exactly what they wanted to validate as true.In this way, certain "truths" are true, so that they can be treated as such and all the validatios that come with that, not because any actual concept of truth is being appealed to.In this case. The only answer is to DEMAND engagement outside ones ownself, because LANGUAGE by its very fundamental basis implies something outside a "oneself". It cannot be private. You don't even need to suscribe to Wittgensteinism. Its just that once you understand certain things about the way retarded human beings engage, Wittgenstein offers a clarity that pulls it all together.The way to engage with "thought" like this is to simply propose something, and then demand engagement.Simply put not everything needs to be "cared" about. Not everything needs to be "justified".If a schizophrenic thinks that a completely innocent person is actually someone who has been fucking with their life for months. What matters, isnt whether this can be "justified". What matters is whether that person can engage with you and/or society in a manner where they can understand beyond themselves. Because to deal with others, you need that capacity. This isnt about empathy.Ultimately if the schizophrenic cannot communicate with you, and cannot engage with your capacity for dissatisfaction with said perspective. Then it doesnt matter what it "justified". We treat that person in the end the same way we treat a rabid dog that bites somebody. You put them down.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25007484>I have no argument, here's a wall of seetheok
>>25006451>rational Egoismoxymoron
>>25006451people generally don't know what they want
The highest form of literature is a play written in poetic meter, all the complexities of the novel with the flowery language of poetry
>>25005498more strict rule of poetry =/= more artistic on the artistic scaleIt seems to me you'd say a work of architecture submitted to more structural regulations and rules would end up being a "Higher Form of Architecture" with that reasoning : plain retardation, good sirThere are many ways to insert structural aesthetic (perceptible) symmetry in a narrative work: characters whose ideas harmonize or perfectly mirror; scenes that oscillates in atmosphere and tone, but aim upward in grandiose; can you feel the emotions growing somber and the imitation of that descent achieved through a change of vocabulary; can you see all that symmetry? I'm not an advocator of complexity, too much in that direction and you will lose all beauty, but if you can only see what's immediate, and constrain yourself to that, then there is a whole range of ideas and sensibilities that you'd deny yourself access to.
>>25006920Shut up retard. Everyone knows poetry is superior to prose and it's not because it has more 'strict rules', and if you think otherwise you're a retard.
>>25006931get a life instead of ragebaiting,stop being a waste of space
vagbond is my favorite piece of literature
>>25006920limitations inspire creativity, this is known, look at video games
