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Has anyone yet composed a better canon than Harold Bloom? There's definitely room for improvement (especially in newer selections).

http://sonic.net/~rteeter/grtbloom.html
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is the western canon book actually good? Im assuming he just goes over the main books and explains why they are literarily relevant
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>>24628150
His enthusiasm is infectious and he has good judgement in my opinion. (I think this because I've read works and then read him and he said exactly what I felt, etc.). He wasn't a great writer as he would be the first to admit, just a teacher
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>>24628111
he was hardly propped up so much as he was the best they had until he died, he was the only one with any memory for the job and a desire to speak despite being a lousy speaker. i doubt it was nepotism, the man was so grotesque to look at or to listen to, but the recognition he represented for literary figures, he helped to maintain, to brandish a torch for his life, for the religious cult that is devoted specifically to literature (there is one, yes)
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>>24628147
You can‘t imagine why America would want to bolster its claims to artistic achievement over the broader historical picture? This is Imperial Legitimacy 101.
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>>24628068
>(especially in newer selections)
Sorry, the canon is closed.

How does the concept of virtue of the aristocratic man contest with Nietzsche's critique of virtue and the inversion of morality?
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>>24625299
Nietzsche’s critique is directed at Jewish virtue (slave morality).
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>>24625299
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>>24625299
in essence they are the same but one is delusional
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Ideal form of forms as well or the good or a good or contrastingly the ironic form of the good or a particular example of iron ore or something like that potentially or possibly.
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>>24625299

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And honestly I don't get the hate at all. I've read the original Greek as well as numerous other translations of both and these are the only ones that accurately capture the spirit of the originals.
They're rhythmic which instantly puts them above almost all other translations
They're elevated without falling into the ornate pseudo-Archaic Latinate trap
They're raw, visceral and direct without being base or simple
Overall, easily the best translations I've read, and most other people I've spoken with who've read the originals agree. I think this board just hates them because she's a woman, an outspoken feminist, and rejects the "poetic" Augustan bullshit totally alien to Homer but favored by most other translators, which I guess means they're "inaccurate" or "middle school" to you all.
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>>24628322
Please justify.
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>>24628325
Purely on reading pleasure. Otherwise known as subjective. I just hate Pope because his poetry sucks and I’ve actually read the whole translation by him and it’s not the Iliad.
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>>24628329
Why does his poetry suck even if you disregard his infidelity
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>>24628139
>Signed by the author
how did they manage that??
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>>24628201
She specifically talks about "toxic masculinity" in her Q&As about her translation, retard.

Why does this sort of weaponizing of victim status appear to be so powerful in modern history?
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>>24624999
I keep clicking the read more button but the rest of your post isn't appearing. Does anyone else have this problem?
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>>24624198
>indu$try
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>>24624198
>As a proportion of the world Jewish population, Ashkenazim were estimated to be 3% in the 11th century, rising to 92% in 1930 near the population's peak.
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It's all feminine reasoning and consensus seeking
Outright lies to trump truth because they "feel right"
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>>24624198
Because the world revolves around the cucked Abrahamic mindset, we live in a turbo gay timeline.

Vampiric edition

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>>24627344
me?

>>24626991
i haven't posted on the that general but i will. thanks for the suggestion
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>>24628283
>me?
no
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>>24626991

One against uneven footing deserves to grovel on the ground.
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Any tips for fictionalizing my biography and opinions? I blogpost on 4chan all day in which I bitch and whine. Some of my posts are okay, because bitching and whining is interesting.

My question is what kind of genre this is? Will people read my rants and complaints?

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I will venture to believe that in no time, since the beginnings of Society, was the lot of those same dumb millions of toilers so entirely unbearable as it is even in the days now passing over us. It is not to die, or even to die of hunger, that makes a man wretched; many men have died; all men must die,—the last exit of us all is in a Fire-Chariot of Pain. But it is to live miserable we know not why; to work sore and yet gain nothing; to be heart-worn, weary, yet isolated, unrelated, girt in with a cold universal Laissez-faire: it is to die slowly all our life long, imprisoned in a deaf, dead, Infinite Injustice, as in the accursed iron belly of a Phalaris' Bull! This is and remains forever intolerable to all men whom God has made. Do we wonder at French Revolutions, Chartisms, Revolts of Three Days? The times, if we will consider them, are really unexampled.
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bump Carlyle threads. encourage discussion of scottish authors

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Have you read any celebrity biographies?
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>>24624376
Who's Nailin Palin?
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>>24627339
She's probably seen enough superficially interesting things in her 70 years of being a fuck doll to degenerates to justify two books yeah.
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>>24624850
The book cover was seared into my brain when I saw rows of it on the shelves at Chapters as a child. Is it any good?
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>>24627345
i wish me. palin was hot.
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Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson I really liked. A lot of it was like a history lesson for me too.

Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

>Previous:
>>24615650

>Thread Question:
Do you have dedicated reading time and place, or do you read wherever you can? Especially at work.
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>>24628089
Cradle is about the limit for what I can take of quippy whedonshit dialogue
I remember dropping an otherwise promising novel like a hot potato when the main character quipped at a village's cultivator, something like "Alright then, Terminator."
and of course then there was the exchange where the chinese old man misunderstood, "Temineitou?"
and I want to kill myself just writing this out
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>>24628193
nta
That's unfortunate that you have such severely negative involuntary reactions. Hopefully you become less sensitive to cringe. It's a sad form of being triggered.
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I try not to spam in these threads, but I am writing a fantasy story you can read for free on Royal Road about a Necromancer, loosely based on my own trip to Nepal and the Himalayas. Aside from the chapter-by-chapter release style, it doesn’t really hold any connection to webnovels. (None of the standard tropes or short chapters). It’s basically my completely normal high fantasy slop, except I liked the idea of getting readers and commenters who could throw advice at me since I’m way too cheap to ever get an actual editor.
Anyways I recently got on the rising stars list on RR for the villainous lead category, and my fiction is two chapters away from being finished with book 1, so I figured now might be a good time to share this once again here.
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/93931/born-under-a-black-sun
more than one of you has advised I switch to a less modern dialogue. When I finish the last few chapters I will go back and make sure everything looks okay and works right, and I’ll try to catch dialogue that looks out of place. But I feel that overall, aping a medieval dialogue I don’t actually understand would do more harm than good.
Also: I feel like my protagonist isn’t really a villain, just a heads up. But he is a necromancer, and a few chapters in he gets in a racially motivated altercation and murders a not-indian. And because of that I had some RR readers complain that I needed a trigger warning, so uh yeah, that’s why it’s tagged as such! :]
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>And I bade my own to lay her pretty toes upon my lips, and lo the maid did lay her pretty toes upon my lips, for I was very masterful unto her and she did be a naughty maid. And all this you who have been with me on all my journeyings will perceive and lend me your natural human sympathies, for all this is very natural and very human.
The entire second half of the book is just this over and over again. Is this really the best the "dying Earth" genre has to offer, or did the anti-Wolfe fag just lie to me?
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>>24628241
I'm exaggerating obviously but this type of dialogue really does take me out of the story, which is why I dislike it so much. It's a lack of earnestness, like the story is afraid of taking itself seriously, like it's embarrassed about being what it is so it keeps making fun of itself.

My favorite works of fiction, literary or otherwise, are over the top gonzo shit that plays it completely straight and takes itself seriously, and that's peak, that's what the pinnacle of fiction is to me. You get a seemingly wacky premise (say, "what if breakdancers got superpowers from magic fruit") and then play it as serious as a funeral, THAT'S how you do peak fiction.

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Only about 5% of professional philosophers (university faculty and high-profile researchers) believe in a personal afterlife. This fact makes me depressed.
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>>24628284
>>>/sp/150182918
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>>24628270
Because you have to be chosen, "the elect" to believe
God chooses who believes and who doesn't
Read Romans chapter 9

>>24628272
Also this
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professional people these days, glad i'm an autodidact who gets to go to heaven
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>>24628270
only about 10% of philosophers believe in the color blue
about 2% believe that some acts can be objectively termed evil
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>>24628323
priest holmes > patrick mahomes

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Share the copy of this book anons can't seem to get the pdf anywhere
Thanks in advance
Post any cool books if u got the pdf
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>>24623043
no prob g

here's a link to a bunch of old magazines made by /lit/izens:
https://mega.nz/folder/2gsHSSbA#Sl46P4LljGlk9mnpAf3Mlw

Ogden Nesmer also wrote a story called Void in &amp, which got re-published in a best-of compilation you can find the PDF of here:
https://the-best-of-amp.github.io/
or online here:
https://the-best-of-amp.github.io/writing/void.html
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>>24622228
so what did you guys think of this book? I thought it had potential as a real novel when it started out talking about conflict in africa but instead it went down the path of being pulpy genre fiction.
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https://www.mediafire.com/file/6zu846bauyo27om/IPRAYTOTHEHUNGRYGOD.pdf/file
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>>24624529
>https://mega.nz/folder/2gsHSSbA#Sl46P4LljGlk9mnpAf3Mlw
should ventoux be added?

What literature does he read?

If Buddhism is so great why is most of Japan depressed/killing themselves/not having children? Almost like it's a religion that denies life and gives nothing
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Temples in Japan are family businesses. The monks get married and have children. It's a very different model of Buddhism than you will find elsewhere. They did the same thing to Korea when they ran it in the colonial period and they pretty much succeeded in destroying Buddhism in Korea as well, opening the way for Christianization of Korea.
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>depressed/killing themselves
The suicide rate for Japan isn't that high, its 17th highest for both sexes. And for men is acutaly lower than the US. This is just a meme because kamikaze pilots, suppoku, and the 90s financial crisis in Japan. there are many Christian countries with higher SRs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
>not having children
There is nothing wrong with this, though Buddhism doesn't directly say laypersons should or shouldn't have children. There also many Buddhist countries with high birth rates (all of SEA), so Japan is an anomaly
>Almost like it's a religion that denies life and gives nothing
Shit interpretation. You don't know anything about Buddhism.
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>>24627524
Atheists are so confused it genuinely makes me sad. I'm not selling you any particular religion or spirituality but please try to entertain the thought that maybe your mind is being limited by a cage you can't even conceive of. At least try to feel past the material no matter how ridiculous it seems to you, as an intellectual being you at least owe yourself that much. I hope you can one day liberate yourself from the chains in your mind and the veils on your spirit.
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>>24628229
>high birth rates (all of SEA)
that's not true anymore
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>>24628255
>not selling you any particular religion or spirituality
So how is your mind liberated if you do not even have a tradition? What God? Perhaps you are the one that is confused.

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I decided to pick up some stuff on the Byzantine Empire, one by classical scholar Anthony Kaldellis and another one by Judith Herrin, is there any other perspectives on the period worth checking out? Thanks in advance.
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>>24628164
owned by, but not ran
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>>24628164
Japan isn't a real country, weebs made that up
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>>24628062
Thanks for the recommendation
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>>24628178
Japanese owned Israeli ran
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>>24627836
John Haldon, Walter Kaegi and James Howard-Johnston are all good. Haldon especially

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Why do zoomers hate reading so much?
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>>24628194
The human spirit is moribund, and for those born into this terrible system, whose development has been permanently arrested from bloom by the internet, awareness of this only comes in the regret of later years. I'm just as cynical, but I'm not sure there's anything you can do about those who refuse to at least recognise their own conditioning. There's a terrible anti-intellectual growth that dismisses any criticism of the state of things as unfashionable and anachronistic—there's a tribalistic joy in denouncing all things old and past.

Well, the internet is going to become substantially more locked down in the following years, so something may yet change. For the better? In some ways, if you're optimistic.
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>>24628278
Why yes I love V for Vendetta can't wait to live in it.
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>>24628291
They better play the 1812 overture and speak in ridiculous alliterative sequences. Then I can accept any fate.
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>>24625964
Because they were tricked into believing that fantasy slop is popular and accessible. They've been told to feel intimidated by much simpler and easier works of literary fiction that they might actually enjoy, so they dive straight into some two million word fantasy epic written for turbo-autists and decide that they just don't like reading when it turns out to be more effort than it's worth.
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>>24628318
kek

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What a strange book.
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>>24627935
No.
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What is it about? Make me want to read it
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>>24627975
An English family hires a mysterious new cook who is incredibly good at his job. Things seem normal and then get weird.
An anon in another thread mentioned being the only person he knew who read this book and not having anyone to discuss it with, so I decided to read this book and then make this thread so he could discuss it.
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>>24628299
Reading the summary it sounds like Passolini's Teorema or Miike's Visitor Q
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>>24628311
Not familiar with either of these, but based on a quick look at their Wikipedia entries they are a lot more sexual than this book is.


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