>>24597892
Well to be fair it should still be hard for them to say no. Perhaps harder.

>>24597720
I accept your concession

>>24599444
You concede to molesting your nephew? Strange way to respond, but alright! You’ve always seemed more John Wayne Gacy than Ted Bundy.

>>24598602
Nope, not samefagging. You're just stupid and cringe, holy shit your writing style is trash.

>>24599373
The upper 5%? Anyone can be successful, retard. Just because I'm successful and you're not doesn't mean you can't be. There are lots of guys like Leonardo DiCaprio out there.

>>24599570
>I'm just like Leonardo DiCaprio

Delusion with dogshit advice lol, where do I buy your book?

>>24595591
women beg to differ.

>>24597653
Such is the woe of fanfic writers.
You love writing the cool, fun or interesting scenes to change, expand or twist canon but stuck writing the buildup and fillers leading up to them.

>>24599265
Yes, and it's worse than you think. Back in the day we pretended to be adults and didn't shy away from sex or mature themes. Now the kids are puriteen crusaders out to destoy anything even slightly "problematic"... such as 2 year age gaps and heterosexuality. these kids now are crazy. just worthless little cunts.

>>24599302
Speak for yourself, my plots are flawless. (not that anon). Fanfic is so easy to pump out that you get a clear vision on the math behind what makes story structures work. I say math in the way of there being patterns to the structure like the 5 arc model, but it's a lot more nuanced than that and you can only get a feel for how you structure your stories best by writing a number of novels. Fanfic lets you cut out the research and background stuff and just focus on making functional stories that are appealing and finishing them with a satisfying resolution. great practice.

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>>24589483
Im surprised there aren't that many turbo sadist 40k fanfics out there. The whole point of the setting is to put your OCs on top of it and make /yourdudes/ and given that work's nature im surprised I don't see stuff like that more often. Im oretty sure the girl who wrote that fic pretended to be a femboy for internet attention or something along those lines

>>24599265
Wattpad is such dog shit. It feels like every story there is written by underaged drug addicts.

>>24594342
>My partner in what?
Homosexual relations

>>24592865
If my partner doesn't read I try to get them to read something short. If they don't budge I casually drop stuff out of nowhere. Like start talking about something I read in the middle of a walk. In my experience girls enjoy such things.

>Who do you discuss books with IRL?
No one. I sometimes mention what I'm reading to either my friends or family. They either act milidly interested for a couple of minutes (which means that they will never read it) or say that they will read it (which means that they will never read it).
>What if you partner doesn't read?
Every single female "reader" I've ever met only read slop and once in a blue moon gave something like Jane Austen or Lispector a read so they could larp for a bit. They are also very proud of their reading and judgemental towards non-readers.
>And how to cope with not having anyone who reads?
By discussing what I am reading with autists in a basket-weaving forum or searching for past autists' takes in said forum's archive.
I don't like 4chan very much but I am grateful to have somewhere where I can discuss and get to know more esoteric books/movies/vidya.

I used to hang out with people from a well-respected Classics program but have since drifted from everyone I knew there. Most will specifically never speak to me again after an incident.
My current partner doesn't read and gets insecure when I talk about books. I thought my job would make up that gap when I began it, but it actually widened it.
The result is that I spend several hours a day at a cafe, just reading and writing. Without a stable, encouraging feedback loop, I will probably never become someone of note, but it is what it is. One gets to an age where one's responsibilities to those one's landed around, if only by accident, take precedence.

bunmp

I used to date a black chick, she’d ride me like no other, she was aggressive with the dick.

Also, George RR Martin still uses an Apple 2, and knows that his endless stream of nerd pussy will come to an end once the series is finished.

>>24598228
>I quit 4chan altogether, about four or five years ago.
yeah, i can tell.
you're hear forever. Deal with it.
fiddle while Rome burns, if that suits you.

board is crawling with retarded zoomers asking the most stupid questions because they are too lazy to read or learn on their own, i feel like a university professor who just stumbled into a kindergarten

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>>24598228
>up next, anon complains /his/ is all spain and catholicism-vs-athiesm threads.

>>24598263
Who are these authors?

>>24598228
>Nothing discussed right now will reach the mainstream
Yes. That's like, why we're here? Kinda the whole point?

You want to talk about "movements" that are "relevant" on Bluesky Trending Topics - you got r/books for that.

>>24599285
Idk what that is

>>24599285
You can't avoid the work anon, time to hit the math and CS books. This isn't something you can learn from philosophy or political theory

What is there to learn? It’s all gates and switches for electricity, that’s it.

>>24598656
>a spider

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>>24598656
>Math is inherently logical.
Doesn't mean you know logic because you've studied math. They skip the foundation of math which has logic and give you a hollowed out version. Theorems, axioms, proofs etc in Euclidean geometry are about deduction, you learn that you learn actual logic which can be transferred to other areas of life, it encourages critical thinking. You haven't studied logic. Here's a book:

https://courses.umass.edu/phil110-gmh/MAIN/IHome-5.htm

Another book:

https://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watt

More books:

>>24594082

Books and other stuff:

Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>24594200
>>Euclidean Geometry was removed from public school.
Since when? Every person I've ever met took geometry in middle school, the basis of which is Euclid's axioms.

>>24598772
I said Euclidean geometry. I didn't say geometry. So what if it's the basis? They don't learn Euclidean geometry which is where you learn logic. They learn a hollowed out version of math. They learn math but they don't learn the foundation of math which is where the logic is. They get rote memorization, not comprehension. Again, you haven't studied logic.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_proof

>>24594200
Not really, no.

How many books are you trading in? You get like .25 for a book if you're lucky.

>>24596227
Depends on what your used bookstore has in stock

the biggest and best used bookstore I ever patronized regular. Got to be friends with the proprietor. Owner said you *never* pay a *dime* for books. At least not like you describe. The only books she would buy were from other used book dealers. Romance was her best seller there and she could buy used romance paperbacks in bulk by weight or by shelf length.

>>24596261
I know a really good one that gives you like 50% of the value and lets you put credit towards 100% of your purchase, so it's great if you're only looking for trade-in credit. Another one though (my favourite that's near me) the owner has a very similar taste to me and he especially likes the books I bring him so he gives me like 30% value in cash (I never do credit at his shop cause if I'm ever bringing him books it's cause I know they're expensive and I'm looking to make cash).

Used bookstore owners are cheap stingy vermin without exception

>>24597299
So a redditor?

glowniggers ITT are seeing in the casket with white slippers NLG.
Alas, for the money not to cry.

bump for Sorokin
>>24593771
thanks for suggestion

>>24593771
i think it would be better if it was translated by Max "Maximus" Lawton

>>24595466
>fascist Russian
come see us at pribaltiks, fascism is at good price RN.
The shinings are on the streets 24/7 to make sure every babuska gets raped in the ass for a word in russian (not that they don't like it, interesting).
Fascism big time good, yeah.
Anyhow, best regards and pls some good book recomendations from a big boy like you are welcome.

>>24599436
Im 99% sure he had BPD, he had a very histrionic and self delusional nature that's absolutely telling of a average BPD riddled moid, they're hard to find but you can spot one pretty easily. The modern manifestation would be the "Kyle" energy drinking drywall punching archetype. I say this from experience

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Wait a minute this is just a question that deeply depends on who (you) personally relate to the most, both were dramatic faggots. Bottomfeeder low value males who keep chubby girls tied up in their basement but can't date pretty woman but still think they're hot shit for liking BDSM relate to Dazai, turboautists too attached to imaginary values but far too ashamed to start sperging out IRL about them or even openly confronting anyone at all but still have internal conflicts over minute things normies say relate to Mishima.
>>24598356
I think about this interaction a lot. I think Mishima saw that maybe in another life he could have become a Dazai. He made some snarky comments about Dazai's suicide but honestly I find that one infinitly more beautiful and poetic than whatever Mishima pulled, he should have drowned himself with a lover too.

I don't like either, but I deeply dislike Mishima for being such a larp about some heroic destiny he was never able to grasp and thinking he's the better man for it. Sure, I can just say things really confidently and it'll suddenly be true, unlike these other losers who can't live authentically.

Mishima was a much better writer, however.

>>24598277
They're both based because they both make horrible people irrationally angry.

>>24598277
Mishima, not even close, and I hate both of these gookfaced homogay faggots.

>>24598355
I wish you well, anon

/mainstream/ but norweigian wood explores suicidality, death and loneliness form loss is ever present in the book, a comfy read.
is what i would say if it wasnt interrupted by pointless sex depictions every two chapters

>>24597869
Sophocle's Ajax

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>>24597869
I fucking hate Herman Hesse with everything my gut has to offer
But im not gonna lie Steppenwolf is pretty up there when it comes to a accurate portrayal of a suicidal attitude, it's not pro suicide though far from it.
You won't find many works about that type of stuff because the strength of will required to write around 300 pages of stuff, rewrite a bunch of drafts, get it published and so on is just too much to demand from someone genuinely suicidal. The depressed artist is as much of a myth as the starving artist because the same way you can't write when you're truly hungry you can't write when you're truly depressed, you just rot and decay.

Cioran on the heights of despair.

>>24599370
I'm late to this thread, but reading back, have absolutely no idea what you actually want which you feel you aren't getting. Could you give some kind of example or scenario of what it would look like for someone to treat you the way you want to be treated? Very concrete, like, set the stage, introduce the characters, show the action. Because reading this right now, I'm pretty lost about what you actually mean.

>>24593112
I've read a similar book "Running on Empty: Overcome Your Childhood Emotional Neglect". How would you rate it anons?

>>24599468
>People who have excess of money, have a moral obligation to help those who are in deficit of money.
Bruh. People with an excess of money obtain that excess by taking it from those who already have only a little and this is morally accepted.

>People who have excess of emotional support, have a moral obligation to help those who are in deficit of emotional support.
Peak transgender aura.

>>24593230
You're a propaganda victim. "Alpha male" influencers have emasculated you

>>24598940
If you are capable of deep introspection, then that's what you need to do anon.

>I know, for example, that I respond very negatively to other peoples’ showings of emotion (including positive ones) because of this hardening and it has negatively impacted my ability to feel connected to others. This behavior makes me more likely to abuse or withdraw than be abused.

You should ruminate on a few recent examples of why you felt this way and how you might overcome it. Then maybe try some form of exposure "therapy" by talking with someone you know who is experiencing some intense emotion and try to navigate an emotionally laden conversation normally.

And if that doesn't work then consider therapy, because 90% of talk therapy is just a way to get NPCs to engage in basic introspection that they otherwise would avoid thinking about.

Hollerback

>>24599158
Camus
Journey to the End of the Night
Chanson d’automne
Facino cane

>>24599158

Is it really possible to feel this way about France? I've never met a from who remotely had this attitude

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>>24599166
>de Sade

>>24589347
Your entire worldview and reality is a lie. People are not god. You are not god. People do not control or determine reality. The people in power do not control or determine reality. People are not equal. People are not blank slates, people are not inherently good noble savages, people are not perfectible, people are not rational and rationally disconnected from their environment. There is no realm of higher purely rational thought disconnected from emotions and impulses. People and society cannot be improved through social engineering by leftist collage educated experts, managerial bureaucrats, or the state.
Progress is not inherent to reality. Reality is not entirely and fundamentally material. reality is not fundamentally dead but alive and consciousness and responsive and evolving. The divine and spiritual is real. the meak are not more moral than the great. Weakness and tolerance are not virtuous. Everything just is what it is. Reality is inherently mysterious. Self loathing is just as evil as hubris. Your entire worldview is just a rationalization for the ruling class to gain ever increasing amounts of power and turn people into cogs. Your entire worldview is just lying and stealing and parasitism. Your entire worldview is just a way to deny reality and evade responsibility and remain immature and evil and not grow up and be virtuous and responsible and like an actual fucking adult.

>>24589347
If we discounted porn-in-book-form (romance) from the statistics (and add pirated books) then men would read just as much as women.

I still read. Will women find me attractive?

>>24589347
Brooklyne briar phenotype reads books?

>>24589584
>romance is unfairly maligned
It’s equivalent to male dominated genres like 40k books (or westerns once). Absolute low effort slop writing. The difference is due to the women are wonderful mental virus anything women do has to be more enlightened and praiseworthy. Therefore people will expend serious effort trying to build apologia for romantasy and other worthless crap. They’d never dream of defending isekai manga or similar bullshit.

Once you start to see this kneejerk woman defense it’s very hard to stop. Braindead politician? But is she a woman and therefore criticism is just sexism? Didn’t she have good intentions for the stupid shit she did? Wasn’t she misled (by men most likely) to taking bribes? Woman rapist? But consider the trauma in her life. Wasn’t there a man somewhere that made her diddle kids? Woman murderer? But think of the kids! They need a mother. Lazy retard who can’t clean up after themselves? But as a woman she has such a high mental load! Living in patriarchy costs many spoons each day, women do all this emotional labour, blah blah.
This is the background noise you’re swimming in.

>>24598770
Who are the authors who debuted after 2000 that you've read but wouldn't recommend?

>>24598879
All of them

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>>24593365
>Adem Luz Rienspects (Mixtape Hyperborea)
While I've got /lit/ shills on my mind, I forgot I read the first two novels by Ogden Nesmer a few years back: I Pray to the Hungry God and Eggplant. I thought Hungry God was the better book, but Nesmer didn't campaign behind it on here like he did with Eggplant so it doesn't seem like many here read it. Eggplant fits in a similar category as Mixtape where I'd call it a naive first novel, but still compelling.

>Hungry God
A child solider in the Congo who becomes a warlord and pursues his brother. Liked the narrative structure.
>Eggplant
Two threads: one a recluse exotic drug manufacturer, another a journalist following a snuff artist. The drug dealer parts have some philosophical meandering, but I remember genuine suspense with the journalist.

I don't have any inherent faith in authors coming out of /lit/, but having free PDF copies of Eggplant and Mixtape got me to try them out after sitting on them a long time. The covers being good helped.

>>24598676
>>24598753
So you don’t actually know? You just feel a sort of truthiness in your gut? Just sort of reckon there’s a decline and you don’t need to actually check whether the opinion you pulled out of your ass has any grounding in reality.
If I tell you Alice Oswald is a greater poet than Matthew Arnold, you have no frame of reference to argue with me

Mircea Cărtărescu is too late for this prompt but solenoid is a very significant novel and written recently. I think we’ve hit a low point, people are writing again. I think people need to build on what Mike Ma and Rx han started and bring sophistication and measure to it. We are living in an age of biomaterialism: that’s the theme of houellebecq’s oeuvre and something we can built from.
Tom Wolfe meets Houellebecq meets Mike ma meets Pessoa, meets Melville.
I don’t think modern life is a void for artistry as much as it has too much noise and wage slaving in relationship to focus and free time. It’s not insurmountable though.
One that hasn’t been mentioned is Rob Doyle, he’s not terrible just middling.