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Never before have I read such an overrated novel, and I’m including 1984 in that. There is absolutely nothing of value here. There is not one memorable scene, not one character worth caring about. It’s a hollow, boring slog from start to finish, and the only reason (YOU) might be pretending to like it is because you think you're supposed to.

And before anyone starts talking about how its good because of le “symbolism,” let’s all agree that it’s the lowest-hanging fruit when it comes to trying to pass your writing off as “literary.” Toss in a green light, make it vaguely sad sounding, and suddenly it turned a turd into a masterpiece? Nigga please.
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>>24596710
>according to some faggot who had everything to gain
nope
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>>24597224
it does sound like him, and what would he have to gain from: the great gatsby "terrible".
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>>24598472
the guy who's writing an autobiography about fitzgerald has everything to gain from one of the world's most divisive critics stirring up controversy over fitz's work. there's a reason he didn't make it known himself, and until you find stronger evidence it's apocryphal
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Ill never forget being in first year uni 10 years ago and talking to a first year english major who said this was her favorite book and was the greatest masterpiece ever written
I couldnt stop laughing i had tears in my eyes
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>>24598827
I have witnessed something similar to this too

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"Românul îşi zeflemiseşte propria lui condiţie şi se risipeşte într-o autoironie facilă şi sterilă."
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>>24598930
The Romanian and Bulgarian girls almost all have black hair, partly because lots of them are gypsies.

>I wonder if they stay in that job for years or just make some euros
Depends, I know enough examples of both cases... however, "a few weeks" is rare and only really happens if a girl simply cannot handle the job. Usually girls come at 18 or 19 and either work for a year or two to build up a financial foundation for life at home (works nicely with the low cost of living in eastern eu), or they "professionalize" and stay in the job for many years, basically until they hit a hard wall somewhere before 30 when the earnings take a nosedive because it becomes harder and harder to compete with the fresh, younger girls.

Some stupid ones drop out earlier than they want because they "graduate" from cocaine to crystal at some point in their sex work career, and it just wrecks them... powdered drugs are quite common in this job, they help with the long working hours and take the edge off of constantly fucking dudes that could be their dads or granddads
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Wtf did this thread turn into
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>>24599574
Surely a parable for the country of Romania itself. It mirrors the bedazzlement of Romanians in real life when they realize that thousands and thousands of young Romanian girls work as prostitutes in western europe, and ask " Wtf did my country turn into"
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prea multa degenerare in thread-ul asta, ne facem tara de ras
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>>24599773
imi pare rau daca acest lucru este surprinzator sau frustrant, dar este pur si simplu un fapt ca in europa de vest, cnd oamenii vad un roman, se gandesc automat la „sofer de camion sau curier amazon” daca este barbat si la „prostituata” daca este fata

Can you write a love story if you've never been in a relationship?
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>>24599563

Yeah but it's going to be a comedy
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>>24599584
Do you cyberstalk her?
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>>24599584
As much as I like the way you write, this isn’t a love story. I have read many things in books that the author obviously doesn’t understand, and it comes off as cringey as hell.
For example I read a LitRPG once and you could tell the female author never played a videogame in her life (i knew the writer) and it just comes off as “wtf r u talking about”

I would imagine it would be the same for someone that has never experienced love, their perspective would come from hearing, reading and seeing other media portrayals of love and it would come off as cringey since the real thing is not as surface level.
0p0ky
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>Can you write a science-fiction story if you've never been in the future?
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>>24599663
Almost all the hot girls in my high school got extremely fat shortly after. Incredibly sad sight.

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>>24598215
the people who opened the floodgates were catholics and jews
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Why are they like this?
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>>24599608
>Produces modern civilization
To claim that Christianity produces modern civilization is like claiming that lice produces modern civilization because a lot of societies that produced modern civilization had a lot of lice.
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>>24598857
Why are they ALWAYS into degenerate shit like this? Why can't they just be normal?
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>>24599793
Wow, that's a profoundly bad attempt at an analogy. Lol.

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>be me
>writer
>hoping to publish a short story
>not quite there yet

>apply for teaching job in my field (stem)
>'okay anon, do these tests'
>one of them is english grammar
>i can only do 50% of the test

help me recover from this humiliation

i'm looking for a good, comprehensive grammar and syntax guide. also if anyone has an overview of how and why the rules have evolved and changed over the years then that would also be great
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>>24599116
>>24599133
thanks anons, i'll check these out tomorrow
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>>24599321
That's fine, except no native English speaker would ever say "we were they."
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>>24599448
>That's fine, except no native English speaker would ever say "we were they."
Except plenty would as a way of demonstrating how arch they are. It is a classed move. Also it is incorrect, because the tense is wrong, "we *are* they." The assurance is a sub-clause which requires it be given in present tense as its a paraphrase of what was said *at that time* in the past.

Compare to "Except us cunts told those cunts the typo meant shit because we are us."
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>>24599460

Mine apologies.
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>>24599227
Dat shiet easy yt boi, its “that we WAS them.” Dumb cracka ass

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DongHun Choi edition.

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feeling embarrassed about myself for supporting President Trump back in 2016
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Razor-winged butterflies in my brain.
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>>24594857
I once made my mother cry. And for a brief second or two I had to genuinely supress a large smile from my face. I then told her to stop, cried too, etc. She never saw it. That smile is a secret only I hold.
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>>24599802
scum
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>>24599804
Thank you.
Don't regret it though.

>favorite author
>favorite novel
>favorite poem
>favorite short story
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>>24599308
They’re all bad the Germans weren’t capable of creating art
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>>24599308
>>favorite author
>>favorite novel
>>favorite poem
>>favorite short story

All of them were jews, that cool?
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>>24599333
>favorite author
>Anne Frank
Anne Frank didn't write the Diary of Anne Frank
jewpaganda
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What's up with the retarded /int/ spam?
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>>24599789
Dunno, but it's funny how many of them don't read

>favorite author
>favorite novel
>favorite poem
>favorite short story
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>favorite author
Valmiki
>favorite novel
Sundri by Bhai Vir Singh
>favorite poem
"Arrow of Love" by Bulleh Shah
>favorite short story
"Shaheedi" by Maqsood Saqib (he's Pakistani but close enough)
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>>24599262
Lol
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>>24599205
Good morning! Do you have the unredeemed Amazon store gift card for me to be making a purchase of the Indian novels, saar?
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My favorite is “The Poo that Took a Pee”

Amazing Indian literature
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>>24599205
The theoretical framework of the book goes beyond the Indian context as Slavoj Žižek said that it is a “required reading for anyone who wants to understand the precipice toward which our entire world is heading ... a book for everyone who seriously wants to think”.[33] Robert Bernasconi said that the world should “listen and learn” from it since “Not since the days of Sartre has philosophy addressed political issues with the directness and clarity that Dwivedi and Mohan”.[34]

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What are the best books about the Cold War?
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>>24594463
STFU faggot
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this is a novel, but i'm not sure it's entirely fiction.
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>>24596207
>The authors' 1983 follow-up, Monimbo, envisioned Miami race rioters as the pawns of Nicaraguan and Cuban communists.
based
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I've heard this is good.
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>>24598647
based banana enthusiasts

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>Just as the female ant after coition loses her wings, which then become superfluous, nay, dangerous for breeding purposes, so for the most part does a woman lose her beauty after giving birth to one or two children; and probably for the same reasons.
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>>24597892
Well to be fair it should still be hard for them to say no. Perhaps harder.

>>24597720
I accept your concession
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>>24599444
You concede to molesting your nephew? Strange way to respond, but alright! You’ve always seemed more John Wayne Gacy than Ted Bundy.
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>>24598602
Nope, not samefagging. You're just stupid and cringe, holy shit your writing style is trash.

>>24599373
The upper 5%? Anyone can be successful, retard. Just because I'm successful and you're not doesn't mean you can't be. There are lots of guys like Leonardo DiCaprio out there.
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>>24599570
>I'm just like Leonardo DiCaprio

Delusion with dogshit advice lol, where do I buy your book?
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>>24595591
women beg to differ.

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>site is extremely uncensored like 4chan
>userbase is still liberals and trannies
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>>24597653
Such is the woe of fanfic writers.
You love writing the cool, fun or interesting scenes to change, expand or twist canon but stuck writing the buildup and fillers leading up to them.
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>>24599265
Yes, and it's worse than you think. Back in the day we pretended to be adults and didn't shy away from sex or mature themes. Now the kids are puriteen crusaders out to destoy anything even slightly "problematic"... such as 2 year age gaps and heterosexuality. these kids now are crazy. just worthless little cunts.
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>>24599302
Speak for yourself, my plots are flawless. (not that anon). Fanfic is so easy to pump out that you get a clear vision on the math behind what makes story structures work. I say math in the way of there being patterns to the structure like the 5 arc model, but it's a lot more nuanced than that and you can only get a feel for how you structure your stories best by writing a number of novels. Fanfic lets you cut out the research and background stuff and just focus on making functional stories that are appealing and finishing them with a satisfying resolution. great practice.
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>>24589483
Im surprised there aren't that many turbo sadist 40k fanfics out there. The whole point of the setting is to put your OCs on top of it and make /yourdudes/ and given that work's nature im surprised I don't see stuff like that more often. Im oretty sure the girl who wrote that fic pretended to be a femboy for internet attention or something along those lines
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>>24599265
Wattpad is such dog shit. It feels like every story there is written by underaged drug addicts.

Who do you discuss books with IRL? What if you partner doesn't read? And how to cope with not having anyone who reads?
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>>24594342
>My partner in what?
Homosexual relations
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>>24592865
If my partner doesn't read I try to get them to read something short. If they don't budge I casually drop stuff out of nowhere. Like start talking about something I read in the middle of a walk. In my experience girls enjoy such things.
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>Who do you discuss books with IRL?
No one. I sometimes mention what I'm reading to either my friends or family. They either act milidly interested for a couple of minutes (which means that they will never read it) or say that they will read it (which means that they will never read it).
>What if you partner doesn't read?
Every single female "reader" I've ever met only read slop and once in a blue moon gave something like Jane Austen or Lispector a read so they could larp for a bit. They are also very proud of their reading and judgemental towards non-readers.
>And how to cope with not having anyone who reads?
By discussing what I am reading with autists in a basket-weaving forum or searching for past autists' takes in said forum's archive.
I don't like 4chan very much but I am grateful to have somewhere where I can discuss and get to know more esoteric books/movies/vidya.
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I used to hang out with people from a well-respected Classics program but have since drifted from everyone I knew there. Most will specifically never speak to me again after an incident.
My current partner doesn't read and gets insecure when I talk about books. I thought my job would make up that gap when I began it, but it actually widened it.
The result is that I spend several hours a day at a cafe, just reading and writing. Without a stable, encouraging feedback loop, I will probably never become someone of note, but it is what it is. One gets to an age where one's responsibilities to those one's landed around, if only by accident, take precedence.
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bunmp

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than it is to create it from scratch. When you create it from scratch you're too often blind to its faults. There are few people who could write a new GoT novel from scratch, but many good writers could improve books 4 and 5.

GRRM's ego hasn't allowed him to secretly use an assistant to sketch out drafts and accelerate the process. I guarantee he'd have done it if he wasn't worried (probably correctly) about the secret getting out and his ego suffering for it. However we now have AI. Why the FUCK doesn't he use AI for his drafts. It would be much easier for him to scoff "Ugh, this part is stupid, here's how I'd do it." and then actually rewrite it while stuffing caramels and chocolates into his foodhole. And the best part is no one would know. 'b-b-b-but you CAN detect AI!" Fuck off, we're not talking about a DEI Yale undergrad submitting an essay without a single change. He'd rewrite plenty. And he'd actually finish.
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I used to date a black chick, she’d ride me like no other, she was aggressive with the dick.

Also, George RR Martin still uses an Apple 2, and knows that his endless stream of nerd pussy will come to an end once the series is finished.

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There's nothing avant garde about this place anymore. Not in the slightest. The current residents are feeding from the crumbs of our old meals. There has not been a single relevant movement or author discussed here for close to 8 years. Nothing discussed right now will reach the mainstream,or even its periphery. Most of it has already passed. A true shitegeist.

Where have the old /lit/fags go? Where are the youngins sharing insights?
I quit 4chan altogether, about four or five years ago. I went nowhere, really.
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>>24598228
>I quit 4chan altogether, about four or five years ago.
yeah, i can tell.
you're hear forever. Deal with it.
fiddle while Rome burns, if that suits you.
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board is crawling with retarded zoomers asking the most stupid questions because they are too lazy to read or learn on their own, i feel like a university professor who just stumbled into a kindergarten
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>>24598228
>up next, anon complains /his/ is all spain and catholicism-vs-athiesm threads.
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>>24598263
Who are these authors?
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>>24598228
>Nothing discussed right now will reach the mainstream
Yes. That's like, why we're here? Kinda the whole point?

You want to talk about "movements" that are "relevant" on Bluesky Trending Topics - you got r/books for that.

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Is anybody here familiar with first/second wave cybernetics literature? Are there any insights to be gained from reading it for someone who doesn't work in the field of CS/Applied Mathematics besides getting a better historical perspective and better understanding of how we've come to this point? People like Von Foerster, Von Glaserfeld, Von Neumann for the philosophical bases for example. Like yeah it's cool to hear about Stafford Beer's aborted socialist Cybersyn project in Allende's Chile, or the initial soviet optimism behind OGAS, but where do I take this beyond mere novelty? I heard about this stuff through my passing interest in Philosophy of Mind, mainly through Francisco Varela's work, but maybe I'm just not suited for it, or perhaps there just isn't anywhere to go with it in this increasingly AI dominated landscape. I'd like to get a better understanding of my environment, my routines, and my thought patters in this aforementioned digital world through this stuff if possible, amongst other interests.
I also realize that Cybernetics is an offshoot of Systems Theory work in philosophy, but I don't really understand how this all plays it out in a larger framework.
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>>24599285
Idk what that is
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>>24599285
You can't avoid the work anon, time to hit the math and CS books. This isn't something you can learn from philosophy or political theory
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What is there to learn? It’s all gates and switches for electricity, that’s it.


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