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>>24600427
I liked reading the 19th century retellings by Sir James Knowles, Charles Hanson, and Henry Frith

>>24601769
stfu

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>>24600427
>Gawain stays with the lord on the condition that Gawain give him whatever he may gain during the day
>Tell his wife to seduce Gawain
what. the. fuck. did. the. bongs. mean. by. that.

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>>24600427

>>24602821
I'm sorry you were raised by a single mom. my bad.

>>24602821
Christians speaking eloquently over the finer details of history and what it means to be a good person meanwhile this guy is typing slurs and posting frogs. If only I could decide who to believe!

>>24603757
>believe
Typical of a moron who has no knowledge

>>24603785
knowledge usually implies a faith in of itself in the pursuit of truth.

>>24603785
>he believes he can know without faith

>>24603760

>Wilson’s take is simpler, more unnerving

Start with the Horus Heresy

>>24603729
This.

>>24603671
Greetings.
I have the feeling that most people recommend some pretty 'heavy' stuff for a starter. If you choose to read some of that, please don't get discouraged. It may be a pain in the ass to read some of that, but they can have a pretty heavy impact as a reward.

Depending on your definition of classic literature, I would recommend with some easy and maybe actual enjoyable stuff. Doesn't mean they can't have impact on you. F.e.:
>1984 by Orwell
>Stranger by Camus
>Lolita by Nabokov
>Brave new World by Huxley
>The Trial by Kafka

Probably about 80 % of the people here have read them and you could engage in a discussion about them pretty quickly.

read of mice and men by steinbeck, it's short, usually assigned in high school, and actually pretty good. gives u a quick win of an american canonical author.

Why is it wrong to say that he’s just okay? Everyone here either worships him or hates him. He’s just okay. I said the truth. He’s cool in some areas but doesn’t blow me away.

>>24596351
lol

>>24596397
Go back to your containment general retarded sword and sorcery fat

>>24603269
same

>>24603828
He's a glorified genre writer who admitted he was overrated.

Cope and seethe.

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>>24603722
>[It's serialized]
Anon's SSS-skill 「Shitpost Merge」

>>24603722
vgh.....kvno.....

>>24603722
why not strong to stronger?

>>24603722
I made it, Mom.... I'm famous.

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wake up, sheeple

>>24602555
Hahahaha fuck me I've been looking for this thank you

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>>24602525
I know right? The world building just Doesn’t. make. Sense!

If old Homer and Playdough would let me have a whack at it, I would make the cave five times larger, complete with farms, schools, and other such amenities. Plus a giant bathroom. I know those Roman folks liked bathrooms a lot.

>>24603673
Hitlerism it antiwhite, for multiple reasons. It also doesn't work, pursuing a path that doesn't work is not heroism. Western man in his spirit must pursue what is EFFECTIVE, within the context of today - the goal is the creation of a people, because though White people exist - they are not and do not act as a people.

Hitlerism doesn't create a people, it makes White people completely discard you and your ideas and gives them an excuse to run - and they are the audience you need to reach whether you like it or not.

>>24603743
I think all this talk of "White people" and the "White race" and "Aryans" is hopelessly misguided. No single race has ever been united the way people imagine when they use these terms. White people fought hundreds of bloody bitter wars with each other for thousands of years. So did Asians, so did Africans, so did native Americans. Skin color isn't nearly a strong enough unifying force or marker of community to hold a "people" together. It only kinda works today because countries either 1) have become melting pots of atomized people alienated from their heritage or 2) have become galvanized by excess immigration of non-white people.
Say the chuds do win and turn America into a white ethnostate. The very next day there would be conflict over which group really got to seize the reins of power - the libertarians, the evangelical protestants, the MAGA republicans, the coastal elites, the urban democrat types, etc. This would happen regardless of whether everyone was diverse or 100% pvre Aryan stock.

>>24603547
he's right btw. And it's because of demons

>>24603766
There has never been a united White people in known history, yes. But do not reduce race to skin - it is even beyond spirit, marrow and bone. But it's not a misguided, if a "White people" does not come into existence soon, there is not a future for the White race because the ideology of antiwhiteism will obliterate the White individual.

You cannot contend with communal forces without a commune. The unifying force is the biospirit, where Westman goes - their is Western civilization.

I don't have to explain much because we have examples of success - the Jews, they are successful as a people.

To keep this on subject, every White person is damaged by antiwhite ideology today, you cannot transcend without addressing it. All religions have succumbed to the psychological warfare of antiwhiteism, so you cannot find any religion as a cure to this.

>>24594897
Islam

>>24603713
I am.

Not only that! He thinks he's superior because he reads a certain kind of book, unearthed from the ruins of Greece or Rome thousands of years ago. The less it has to do with the world in which we live, the more status it confers. By reading the ancients, wreathed in bay leaves, pompous in the purple, he separates himself from the unwashed. He's a class apart .He may be in this world, but damned if he's of it.

>>24603754
Yes.

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>>24603738
Jokes on you.
Unlike you, who has to rely on other people's thoughts, we have our own. We think for ourselves. We also have sex.

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>>24603775
>i don't care what you think!
>i have sex!
need i express to you your own vapidity or did you figure it out the moment you posted this?

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>>24602960
Adrian Goldsworthy, Anthony Everitt and Peter Heather.

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>In the summer of 1914 Europe exploded into a frenzy of mass violence. The war that followed had global repercussions, destroying four empires and costing millions of lives. Even the victorious countries were scarred for a generation, and we still today remain within the conflict's shadow. In this major analysis David Stevenson re-examines the causes, course and impact of this 'war to end war', placing it in the context of its era and exposing its underlying dynamics. His book provides a wide-ranging international history, drawing on insights from the latest research. It offers compelling answers to the key questions about how this terrible struggle unfolded: questions that remain disturbingly relevant for our own time.

>>24601057
English society as a whole

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Books on modernization, industrialization of states and Stalin's reign?

>>24593197
Best History of the Byzantine monarchs?

>>24603150
You should use less commas. I know those pauses are meant to signify how your slow brain functions, but don’t take your stupidity out on others.

is very an adverb?

>>24603735
A modifying adverb ye.

Adverbs are fine.

>>24603540
>The elites then may have no reason to not cull the human population drastically and let the remainder enjoy the system.
But if that is the future, Marx was basically wrong about the evolution of capitalism. Unless you consider a socialism for the elites (with everyone else gone) to be a case of the socialist stage of development.

>>24602024
They will be. The next depression/world war will produce another revolutionary period and the new generation of revolutionaries won't make the same mistakes as in 1917-23.

>>24603480

Infact the class struggle is happening right now as we speak all across the world. Sometimes it's overt and sometimes it's covert. But it's there. The logic of capitalism DICTATES that workers will be in a constant struggle to increase their wages and material living conditions against the owners. This dichotomy pretty much dictates the whole political discourse of most modern nations.

And you chose to be blind to it just because you wish to dogmatically reject Marx.

>>24603570

Leaving aside the taste of bootlicking in this post. I never said that the culling would be atrocious in nature. They could simply stop reproduction until only as many people are left as can be SUSTAINABLY managed by the automated system. Birth rates are already falling. Which means the incels among you won't have any future generations with a stake in this supposed utopia.

>Marx was basically wrong about the evolution of capitalism.

Marx works within a framework where labour never stops being irrelevant. The anon I was replying to came up with this scenario where productivity is completely decoupled from labour. Of course in such a scenario Marxist theory will become irrelevant since the whole dialectic would've disappeared.

Marx was not predicting the course of capitalism in a scenario where human labour disappears and human civilisation basically becomes machine civilisation.

>>24603703
>>24603770

>>24603286
Damn, and here I was jealous of other boards' stickies thinking they had a magic formula for keeping them clean. Though directed vandalism is a lot different from automated bot spam from the broader web. I guess the main trick to keep clean is to mostly go unnoticed.

>>24603326
Most of the Wikis stayed up without much issue for years; it seems like it's an issue with absent administration.

There's little reason to grief a Wiki, I assume this is just sharty kids.

>>24603362
>sharty kids
Probably, but don't doubt the resolve of a board's resident schizos. Random vandalism ought to subside if you wait it out. Schizos are persistent. Bot spam is omnipresent. It just bums me out that the guy who re-upped the /lit/ wiki seemingly just gave up on it after a while and didn't bother giving anyone else admin perms or putting up some defences against bots.

The /lit/ wiki was pretty much dead anyway. More or less just a chart repository, though it was funny that I found someone sneaking her book into one of the recommendation pages a few months back---not even a /lit/ author but seemingly some random woman. Otherwise it's a lot of stubs you'd think might be interesting but never got finished, like
https://lit.trainroll.xyz/wiki/Narratological_Style_Analysis (last edit 2014)
or random bullshit like
https://lit.trainroll.xyz/wiki/Ghost_Town_Characters

>>24603400
I have all of the original wiki files on my laptop, the guy currently hosting it beat me to the punch.

I was thinking about making a site more in line with an archive than a wiki. I figure we could succeed with a different medium and manage edits through email.

>>24603400
>>24603431
The mega is better as a chart repository anyway.

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>>24598804
Not sure what isn't clear, even though I was admittedly being pithy.
>>24596653 's claim seems absurd on the face. I would ask for any instances of holy water and holy magic being feminine, actually, because I can't think of any. Is it an anime thing? Or because a lot of final fantasy white mages are women?
I brought up Belmont and Van Helsing because throughout all of gothic story telling the toughest, most grizzled dude of the bunch is likely to use holy water and crucifixes all over the place.
Think of Solomon Kane. Or Galahad. Or anything that is inspired by The Exorcist.
From where I'm sitting Holy Water and Holy Magic are gender neutral, but honestly if they're anything they seem masculine coded. Off the top of my head I can't think of an iconic example of a character using those gimmicks who's a chick or feminine.

So I'd love to understand why you and the original anon think that they're 'effeminate' and why, because I'm clearly missing some point of reference.

>>24600026
I was bouncing around the idea of it being how they spoke originally before they integrated with other cultures, so it would be more formal, or spoken at home or among people of their kind. To a degree, I felt that if it were part of the world then other should be able to understand it, but it didn't mesh that well. Great for Shakespeare and poetry, but clashes kind of harshly, drags when speaking with others in a modern, casual way.
If you're familiar with the Darmok from Star Trek, it was similar to that vein, but eh.

>>24596653
Exorcism is exceptionally masculine.

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>>24567943
I want to include a variety of types of Angels and Demons in my setting, what kinds of celestial and infernal archetypes are there, be they roles or species?

For the former of course there's Guardian Angels, holy warriors that fight Demons, spirit animals, and messengers for instance, what else can you suggest?

As for Demons, there's Succubi and Incubi, Imps, Hellhounds, plague demons, possessors, crossroads demons, demons specializing in infernal contracts, fallen angels, warriors, shadow demons, demons that spread hatred, and demon lords, what other infernal archetypes exist?

>>24603225
For the former, be better than Vivzie and actually base them on angelic choirs. Thrones, Dominions, Cherubim, Seraphim, etc.
People keep trying to adapt Heaven and Hell but leave out the compelling stuff.

>>24602897
>>24601924
its not that rocks experience or contain qualia, its that they are qualia.
>it would be so amorphous as to be meaningless
yes. its definitely not consciousness as we know it, but whats important is that its the same kind of basic substance, and that beings can be imagined as experiences out there.

>>24602756
>(a nebulous term that can range from emotions, to general beliefs and thought)
here it means all internal experiences.
>are 1 to 1.
so is the correspondence some or none? do you not observe that when things happen to your brain, your internal experience changes? just the fact that your sight has the perspective of your brain not mean anything? i have never seen anyone hold this position.
>>24602387
>a by itself an immediate reality
im saying that that immediate reality IS what are brains structure looks like. from the inside, if you will. im not sure if we are talking about representation in the same sense.
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>>24588925
The sankhya school already solved it 1700 years ago

>>24603272
>pee pee poo poo saar

>>24603090
>here it means all internal experiences.
There is no way to prove the transition is 1 to 1 due to qualia being inherently subjective, which means the recorded data is merely anecdotal.
>so is the correspondence some or none?
The correspondence is in your senses and not your subjective awareness.
>do you not observe that when things happen to your brain, your internal experience changes?
It's not 1 to 1.
>just the fact that your sight has the perspective of your brain not mean anything?
Not really.
>i have never seen anyone hold this position.
You're a dishonest pseud so it doesn't matter.

The "Aphantasia" meme is peanuts, though. What I do is I imagine that I am an external agent in every conversation. Like I go outside of myself. I act as if I do not have opinions or viewpoints, but as if I am an external observer to any conversation, who only interested in the objective truth. I understand that normies do not do this, perhaps they are not even able to, they identify with opinions and arguments and have emotional reactions to opposing viewpoints which they perceive as "external". To me, every discussion is external, every debate is external because my point of view is that of transcendent truth, from the viewpoint of which there can be no oppositions, and no contradictions. And lastly, I take for granted that any person with any aspiration towards wisdom acts in this manner, but it is clear to me that most people don't even understand that they have the power to detach themselves from mental processes (they don't believe in spirit or spirituality, they think that people are the creations of their own brains, a ludicrous concept).

>>24603683
Demons.

>>24603643
>Visualizing is really fucking useful
Hyperphantasia has its own problems, though. I can literally daydream an entire day away, which is excellent for creativity but outside of that not so much.

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>>24602193
Is this even a real thing?
My sister thinks she has it but I don't believe her lol.
Don't we, after all, think in images? if words are symbols for images wouldn't it require some sort of imagination to form a sentence?

>>24603683
based