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Are there any philosophers which cover the concept of expecting others to have cohesive or logical reasons which inform their poor decisions?
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nah i didn't think so either
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Yes, several philosophers have explored this territory! Here are some key thinkers:
Jonathan Haidt - His "social intuitionist model" argues that moral and practical judgments are primarily driven by immediate emotional intuitions, with reasoning serving as post-hoc rationalization. People make decisions first, then construct logical-sounding justifications afterward. His elephant-and-rider metaphor captures this: the elephant (intuition) goes where it wants, while the rider (reason) just explains the path.
Daniel Kahneman (philosopher/psychologist) - Distinguished between System 1 (fast, intuitive, emotional) and System 2 (slow, deliberate, logical) thinking. Most decisions are made by System 1, with System 2 only providing the illusion of rational control. We're much less logical than we think.
David Hume - Famously argued that "reason is, and ought only to be the slave of the passions." He believed reason cannot motivate action on its own—our desires and emotions drive decisions, while reason merely figures out how to achieve them.
Dan Ariely - Focuses on "predictably irrational" behavior, showing how people consistently make poor decisions in ways that follow patterns but defy rational logic. We're not randomly irrational; we're systematically so.
Robert Kurzban - Argues the mind isn't designed for consistency or truth, but for strategic social navigation. Contradictory beliefs can coexist because different "modules" serve different purposes.
The running theme: expecting coherent reasoning behind decisions misunderstands how human cognition actually works. We're rationalizing creatures, not rational ones.
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>>24822617
rationalism is a dead end

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>anti-christ lectures audio recordings been leaked
where can I get a download link?
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>>24821595
>Look at me, everything nihilism
Lowest IQ in the thread so far
>>24821596
>Lenin started a civil war
Second lowest IQ in the thread.
Lenin got rid of an unpopular government that nobody liked. The Bolsheviks overthrew the Provisional Government, and didn't have to fire a shot, because nobody wanted to defend it.
The "social democrats" in question tried to assassinate him, and "killings" he did were done by every side in the civil war. That's how wars work, kid. Maybe read some history books, and stop with liberal moralism that never applies in real life.
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>>24822373
he's on that diddy shine
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>>24818918
>only for the British to facilitate mass Soviet infiltration of the Roosevelt government to the point of inducing Nuclear Proliferation with many spies walked straight into The Manhattan Project
Lol? It was the American Jews Rosenbergs that did that.
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>>24822384
>Lenin started a civil war
Pedantry since you still have to admit communists started a civil war even if Lenin personally joined later.
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>>24822281
>>24822292
>no u

What the fuck are women reading nowadays
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>>24819592
Those books are written for women, no self respecting man would read that garbage. Horror movies are mostly aimed at women as well.
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>>24820617
He's a tranny that's been spamming that shit recently, just report him and ignoring him
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>>24819546
What they want.
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>>24819556
Since when the FUCK do women want ugly guys? This must be a recent phenomenon, because I certainly have not gotten laid.
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>>24819546
The slob is for men btw. I've read it.

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He still filters normies from the grave…
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>>24822092
He did have a dialectic on this from his Extreme Phenomena article. It was comical. He blamed the sexual revolution for causing people to exert sex energy for no purpose. At some point people question what they are and it's all over, the revolution never happened. The process is the endless one from Nietzsche and since there are no answers everyone is a tranny for political purposes and no one is a tranny for all intents and purposes.

>once the orgy is over there never was liberation.
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>>24821167
>french theologian
Did a new Guenon (pbuh) just drop?

>incorrect simulations
Reality itself was always an 'incorrect simulation'. It is a consensus film, imposed by reiterated forces. None are more 'real' than the other, only more forceful. Your tendency towards God on the basis of avoiding 'nihilism' is purely utilitarian, less ontological. If anything these religious hyperrealities do already exist and they compete with deadly force.
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>>24822150
pretty trvkeful i must begrudgingly admit
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Jogging won, Baurdrillard and his purple prose lost
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I plan on reading him soon

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Anybody else working on a novel?

This is the absolutely worst, and I hate every second of it. It’s like I’m in a fight with my brain every day to start writing, then dealing with imposter syndrome the whole time I am writing, and then facing mental exhaustion that eventually forces me to stop. I’m nearing 100k words, and I just want this to be over.

I do think it’s good, though. I built a tight outline, and I’ve stuck to it. Maybe that’s part of why it feels like work, since it’s all architecture like factory work.
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>>24822271
>This is the absolutely worst, and I hate every second of it. It’s like I’m in a fight with my brain every day to start writing,

This is how I feel trying to just write a short story. It is a fight I lose every time.

A novel seems like an insurmountable challenge.
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>>24822874
compared to my cock, sure. but, again, vinyl have varying degrees of thickness
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>>24822908
>vinyl have varying degrees of thickness
enough to warrant a distinction in your already-overwritten goofball novel?
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>>24822271
My issue is that I feel confident in my ability to write, in my prose and all that. I just can't come up with a plot to save my life
I am considering partnering with someone who comes up with the plot and I write the actual bulk of the novel
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When I get a little tense sometimes I just grab a knife and slash myself a couple dozens times across my chest and thighs and upper arms where it's easily hidden. Very cathartic.

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Is it possible to purchase physical copies of the original 1610 Douay-Rheims Bible without the 1752 Challoner revision?
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>>24822206
I'd be interested in this too
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>>24822206
Did it have an introduction?
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>>24822807
https://archive.org/details/1582DouaiRheimsDouayRheimsFirstEdition1Of31609OldTestament/page/n15/mode/1up
It has a section called ‘To the English Reader’.

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>no Honor Levy thread on the catalog

When is the next book?
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>>24822996
What did she mean by this.

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>>24820163
my diary desu
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Lonely
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Man Alone - Mulgan
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>>24822956
> it is often misrepresented as a celebration of the loner, but is more important for its gritty glimpse of life during economic disaster
Your grievous misrepresentation notwithstanding, that sounds interesting. I only New Zealand literature I've read have been Maori-focused stuff.

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Still boggles my mind that Redditors push this “author” so hard. Maybe his 2nd grade level prose glides across their smooth brains so it feels good. Anyway make fun of him for crafting a universe where competence only exists in evil and good only wins through pure happenstance
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>>24817092
>just turn your brain off
i already accepted that when i started the stormlight archive series and it was still worse than expected.
it´s incredible competently written, but everything felt incredibly mechanical.
>the story
instead of just finishing a storythread it gets interleaved with chapters of other characters, which stretches each 80 page substory over 500 pages. it´s a slog but i guess people consider this writing style modern.
>the characters
somewhere between fun caricatures representing an aspect and "realistic" humans, Sanderson writes them with the worst qualities of both. They are juuust a bit too complex to be an archetype, but too shallow to represent real humanity.
>worldbuidling&magic
i expected this to be the load bearing pillar of his writing, but it was incredible stale, overly technical and awkward. At this point i dont even know if its even possible to make "hard magic" interesting.


The best summary i have seen a few years ago was on some thread where someone described Sanderson as the opposite of the messy genre inventor. Usually some author has an incredible idea and tries to bring that creative spark into reality and then fails halfway. Sanderson is the opposite, there is no spark. I think he´s interested in characters but not people or archetypes. He likes magic systems, but doesnt care much about magic. But his competency allows him to write great fantasy content.

His apologists usually say it´s just not high literature and a fun read as you can see itt. But his works wont go into guilty pleasure territory either like any cheap romance novel or isekai slop.

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>noone mentions Feist's works
Sucks to be you guys.
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>>24820543
Perrin's portions of Dragon Reborn are also kino
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>>24821461
Rand is great yeah, I really do like him as a character and I can see why he's so many favorites. I haven't read enough like true novels since I was a kid reading YA so I'm not comfortable saying he's my favorite but I can see him going up there in the top 10.
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>>24822760
Yup, the reasons I always struggled with this series is the more interesting and crazy Rand, the less PoV we would get. It's one of the many reasons why CoT is ass. No Rand.

Is there anything worse than a movie cover for a book?
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I always loved this cover and I'm so sad I lost my copy with it.
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aye, it's awful, but the cover situation has been clogged in shit for many a year.
look at the cover of today's sci-fi novels and compare them to what was the norm 40 years ago.
the whole sci-fi genre is in the crapper, desu. all that is digestible is being printed independently.
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>>24818307
Could have just used this one instead.
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Literally the second page:
>He was a tall man, thirty-six, born of English-German stock, his features undistinguished except for the long, determined mouth and the bright blue of his eyes, which moved now over the charred ruins of the houses on each side of his.
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>>24818307
5 year old kids dying of cancer I guess

swords from the big chair edition

ASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page
Blog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/
So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/
Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/
SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdy
General search: http://searcherr.work/
TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chapters

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>>24822405
I'm hoping for those scenes from the book that Anon said he would draw last thread.
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Why didn't Stannis just challenge Renly to a 1v1 to see who would keep the throne between them? Could have used blunted swords or something to make it more enticing an offer.

Better than using dark magic that would turn everyone against you.
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>>24822625
How good of a swordsman is Stannis, he was an accomplished commander and sailor but he was not like Robert in terms of enjoying the fight. Book Renly is described as basically being a Robert clone so its possible that Renly might just beat him. But then again Renly wouldn't even bother since he had the bigger army.
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>>24822598
>tower fingers typed this post
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>>24822825
Naw, if you call out Renly in front of his boys you force him to fight as to not look like a coward.

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Burke seems like a retard to me. I understand his dislike of "metaphysics" or abstract principles, and trying to derive an entire political system from them after abolishing another system into its "molecules" (individual people). I also appreciate that he understands that institutions or assemblies empowered by such abstract principles in a power vacuum CAN act with authority (make themselves obeyed), as he easily could have been sloppier and denied any such possibility. He clearly thinks it's possible, just dangerous and retarded.

But when he tries to positively prove the validity of the English constitution he loses me. He keeps appealing to what the "wisdom of the nation" did, or the "unanimous consent of the people." I understand this is a polemical move meant to counter the "political divines" who are appealing to The People and their consent abstractly. He's trying to say that "The People" DID act, and chose the maintenance of the hereditary principle in the English constitution. But surely he understands that the revolutionaries will just counter with the populist point that the people are hardly represented by a few conservative Whigs in parliament when 1-2% of the country can actually vote.

It's a disappointing book for me. I came in expecting a robust defense of conservative organicism and instead I got special pleading. I prefer de Maistre and Savigny.
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>>24822921
I wouldn't worry about any one argument, since Burke follows the typical rhetorical practice of the time, modeled on Cicero, in which you're supposed to just come up with as many arguments as you can for every point.

Read Pocock's articles on the ancient constitution and on Burke's political economy. Also the chapter on Burke in Pitkin's The Concept of Representation. I found these very helpful in appreciating the Reflections.
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>>24822960
I was just talking to ChatGPT about it and he said that Burke's whole point is NOT supplying an abstract justification of his position since the political can never be justified abstractly, only inherited and tended. That makes more sense to me but I still feel like the rhetorical effect is weak and almost counterproductive if you're on the fence.

I'll read these, thanks. I actually had the Pocock book out from the library once and only got a little bit into it. The only thing I remember is that Burke was more friendly to radical reform earlier in his life, and the dual meaning of "constitution."
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Thomas Paine wrote a rebuttal to Burke. Burke then wrote a rebuttal to Paine which addresses what you mention

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My favorite book is Dragon Rider. What are some other comfy adventure novels?
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She: A History of Adventure by H. Rider Haggard
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>>24820901
I'm not into gender politics so I'll pass on this one
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Treasure Island
The Sea Wolf
Captains Courageous
The Riddle of the Sands
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>>24820675
I started reading this, as well as Angels & Exiles, and I think Yves Meynard is my new favorite author.
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The Three Musketeers
The Long Ships
Flashman
White Fang

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>French collage exchange qt is going to move in with my parents and I in November
>I don’t speak a word of the language
Someone please fucking help me saar

Everyone talks about learning Spanish, or Greek or Latin, but would i gain more considering the state of the world by learning Hebrew instead? I used to know the Hebrew alphabet by heart as a kid but its mostly escaped me now. Its for college mainly.
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Biblical Hebrew is good if you are trying to max schizo. But you also need Greek and Sanskrit otherwise you only get a slice of the pie.
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>>24822901
>Sanskrit
nigga who are you trying to fool. Sanskrit's only relevance was in linguistics, and we already figured all that out by the 19th century.
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>I let others think for me
Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru
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>>24820707
Wrong dummy
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>>24820230
If you're going to be a weirdo anyway, learn Yiddish, definitely the best books


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