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This is your guy? Lmao
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LOL A SCARED CHILD IN A DYSTOPIAN HELL WORLD FEARS DEATH THIS IS HILARIOUS
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>>24733773
No it isn't. I have no idea who you're referring to or what this passage is from

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can anyone who knows what they're talking about recommend a path/point of entry to analytic philosophy
i am reading fear and trembling and there is direct reference to hegel who i attempted to read but find unparseable
all the overviews of western philosophi i can find are school of life type self help bullshit so i have nowhere left to ask

the first reply to this will inevitably be some glib meme free of content like "start with the greeks" or "read the sticky".
i dont want to become a specialist in ancient greek/pre-greek literature or whatever the fuck that "how to read a book" chart is doing.
the charts posted to the sticky are all sophomoric memes made as a joke by schizophrenic groypers who all they do is collect and curate wikipedia abstracts. swaths of that shit just no one outside specialist historians is ever reading. you cannot tell me the original Lavoisier's Elements of Chemistry is a worthwhile time investment relative to how commonly it is recommended, by people who don't realize they're recommending it. You can't tell me the typical poster is writing with a working memory and understanding of the contents of Fourier's original Analytical Theory of Heat. This is an educational trajectory an 8 year old with google search would imagine.
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>>24732373
Roger Scruton's Modern Philosophy: An Introduction and Survey is a good introduction to 17th century-to-present philosophy from someone who was trained in the Analytic tradition. Scruton was also a big fan of Hegel, so you'll get a nice dose of Hegel from the book, though it's definitely Scruton's take on Hegel.
Copleston's multi-volume History of Western Philosophy is a good read, though I'm not sure how approachable it is for a beginner. I've read parts of it and haven't found it to be terribly obscure, but I also have an advanced degree in philosophy so take what I say with a grain of salt.
If you're looking for lectures on Youtube, the Arthur Holmes history of philosophy is supposed to be quite good, although I haven't listened to it myself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yat0ZKduW18&list=PL9GwT4_YRZdBf9nIUHs0zjrnUVl-KBNSM
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>>24732373
https://plato.stanford.edu/contents.html

Take a walk, fren. :) (Use this as a starting point)
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>>24732373
real accessible analytic philosophy. paradigm work meant for laymen
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>>24732373
You won't understand any philosophy without reading the Greeks.
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>>24732680
What's up with the difference between Cambridge and Oxford in the field of intellectual history?

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I'll start

"ontological"
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>>24732801
I thought it had to do with being or some shit

if something is ontological it metaphysically exists or something

but non-essential qualities metaphysically exist according to a lot of philosophy niggas

so ontological as an adjective would seem to extend to non inherent shit too

that is to say ontological is over and above essential, its closer in meaning to existent

or so it seems to me
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>>24733696
do they exist ontologically or are they a spatial metaphor for our spatial-sensing monkey brains ? ? ?
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>>24732932
Based
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>>24733359
Just don't. I realized making myself into a woman would make me inferior so its not worth it.
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>>24733484
Funny because he never said that, midwit

But why isn't anything writing like it anymore?
America is still a decadent rich society with an upper crust partying leisurely espousing retarded ideas and stepping on pathetic and weak poor people, but is there a single good book that can combine a fiction based on their pastime with verbose and lofty emotional experience?

None of the characters in the book and very complex, nor is the plot beyond the readily imaginable, so please can we get a 2025 equivalent with private jets, international resorts and elite parties? Have our writers simply stopped living with an open heart anymore? No intelligent liberal arts students to give expression to the practically minded zealots; it just feels we have become so poorly inarticulate.
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They’ll just watch Succession and get a vaguely similar idea.

Anyway, who gives a shit about high school lit? You should have hammered out these hangups in class with Mr. Teach.
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>>24733315
People still write about people having a lavish lifestyle, just look at A Little Life by Yanagihara.
The thing is, those books aren't any good because the publisher picked up the author based on her race and gender and not her skills or talent.
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>>24733315
the money is in hollywood so a lot of the more talented writers are trying to tell stories in films or streaming shows and the writers who are writing books about the great gatsby are all communist trannies
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>>24733315
>Have our writers stopped living with an open heart anymore?

I think this is part of it. Ask a published shitlib writer to eke out a novel on contemporary wealth, and it will be personal grievances and petty seething. They wouldn't try to humanize the wealthy as Fitzgerald did. Too much ressentiment these days. Don't know how you'd fix that.
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>>24733315
Real life isn't interesting anymore. Even the rich mostly live through screens now. You'd end up with a story about how a day trader bribed a twitter mod to boost his post but he got ratioed by a random anime pfp anyway so now he's sad or something.

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Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

>Previous:
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>Thread Question:
Do protagonists that rely on cunning and cleverness make for more interesting stories than ones with innate abilities or powers?
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>>24733636
While the "muh society" angle is corny, after watching a lot of spooky camping and urban exploration videos, I actually agree with this in a different level: Being in an isolated place with potential crazy people is genuinely scary.
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I preferred the artform in Pattern Recognition, hunting for video clips posted at random on the Internet. It felt much more realistic than this augmented reality 3D model - cum - sculpting going on in this one. I think he probably got way too into reading tech magazines and trying to keep up with things that were going on after basically winging it with Neuromancer. The prose also feels extremely clinical, although that might just be the way I'm getting it on the page in this stupid hardback which obviously wasn't read by the guy that owned it before me with the words really small and the gaps between them really big and the paper too smooth. Maybe it makes me a poser but the literal act of reading a book is important to the experience, it's why audio and e-books don't count.
The real problem with Gibson constantly telling three stories at the same time and then tying them up at the end is that, 100 pages in, it still feels like none of them are getting anywhere because they keep getting interrupted so I can't tell if I'm invested or not, which means I'm probably not.
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>>24733435
We Victrafags honor your tenacity, horsefag.
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>>24733745
We have the best girls, don't we folks?
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>>24733780
>>24733745
Apollonius is the true best girl
all other women need not apply

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where in the Bible is The Book of Sheen?
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>>24732670
I didn‘t know he was in the house
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He doesn't have any regrets, but that's not surprising: because he was a wealthy nepo-baby he never once had to face any consequences.

I'm ready for him to just go away.
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>>24732248
In the back, same place Charlie takes it
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>>24732248
was walking in target. saw him looking at me. opened it up. read some of the middle. laughed at something. fuck it. bought it. based & cool faggot. his name feels right. maybe im a faggot.
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>>24732690
Kek

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>Tarchetius, king of the Albans, who was most lawless and cruel, was visited with a strange phantom in his house, namely, a phallus rising out of the hearth and remaining there many days. Now there was an oracle of Tethys in Tuscany, from which there was brought to Tarchetius a response that a virgin must have intercourse with this phantom, and she should bear a son most illustrious for his valour, and of surpassing good fortune and strength. Tarchetius, accordingly, told the prophecy to one of his daughters, and bade her consort with the phantom
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>>24732127
The fate of all the public domain now
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>>24732202
This, it was literally just a snake.
Although archimedes sun laser is x-tier
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>>24731648
>>24733001
The giant snake is known Roman propaganda trying to justify Regulus' army being wiped out at Bagradas.
(The storms which allegedly sunkone gazillion Roman ships might have been greatly exaggerated to justify sea losses as well)
Archimedes' sun laser was real, mythbusters said so.
>B...but why wasn't it used in any other battle in all of recorded history?
Because it failed duh
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>>24733022
>(The storms which allegedly sunkone gazillion Roman ships might have been greatly exaggerated to justify sea losses as well)

No they weren't. The Roman ships were built like shit using unseasoned timber and the Roman navigators were idiots because they'd never done this kind of thing before. This is why Aderhbal fucked up Pulcher so easily at Drepana - or, do you REALLY think it was because of the fucking chickens?
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Which edition of Parallel Lives should I go for?

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This is what I read over the Summer AMA
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>>24733697
possible experience
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>>24733495
you are not as intelligent as you think you are
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What the fuck does AMA mean and why do I see it everywhere lately?
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>>24733713
i am entirely unable to distinguish intelligence in other people and even less so in myself
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>>24733717
"Ask me anything"

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Maybe Bumble? There are a bunch of lit girls there last time I tried, but they require you to take a photo of your fucking ID now, that's retarded. Are there any other good options?
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>>24729946
>A) do everything you can to get yourself into a tier I or II school
>B) live in new york city
>C) go to law school

>...so you're saying I should sacrifice my junior and senior year of HS to get into Penn or NYU...for the pussy??
Yes that's exactly what I am saying young anonling.


>>24730451
based. however, they seem to do this for me rather than me for them. I don't mind however. I'm just a little confused as to the why.
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>dating app
Don't, its time has passed

I met my wife on /int/ in 2014 so you could try that
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>>24729946
If you're in your 20s and haven't had sex or a gf just give up. I pretty much have.
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>>24730225
I actually tried that but mine was basically a homeless shelter
went to take a piss after driving there and the downstairs restroom had a guy taking a shower with the sink and the upstairs restroom had a guy audibly jerking off in the stall
I did get a library card and they have an e-library it lets me access, they've been pretty good about getting stuff I request and I don't have to go back so its maybe a win?
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>>24729946
/soc/

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Its amazing how you can take the greatest literary works of all time, some taking years if not decades to write, and make them look like shitty college psychology textbooks.
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>>24719998
>2 wild cats fighting in the forest, housecat cat in the center with light rays implying his innocence, separate box shows he's going to be dropped into this unfamiliar, unforgiving world
>More realistic rendering, but its just the main cat "hunting". All imagery from the first is lost as the main character is already competent
>Furry trash
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>>24720914
I like the lovecraft one with Chthulu on it.
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>>24729700
Get the stupid award sticker off of there and it’s perfect.
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>>24732642
No you
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>>24733344
Me too

It's possible to write a novel that visualy looks like a zine?
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>>24732260
It doesn't look like a zine, it looks like some digital scrapbook. Real zines were usually xeroxed and had that inevitable copier aesthetic.
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>>24733506
Zines where made with what was available and used anything and everything from offset presses to dot matrix printers. We had a local one that was done in dry point.
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>>24733547
Fair enough. They're not made with teenage girl washi tape though.
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>>24733551
Why not? I know a girl who used her childhood sticker collection for one issue of her zine.
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>>24732246
No novels that I know of, but Donald Barthelme has a few short stories that play with that visual look. Maybe more newsprint or a column and less like a zine. Also Gass does some weird visual stuff in Willie Masters Lonesome Wife. Its a good question though. Amateur zines were never really popular like that that I recall. I don't know of any writers that did the pro magazine look in a story either.

I tried reading A Farewell To Arms but found it incredibly boring. I have already read WW1 memoirs that were far more interesting.

What am I missing here? I can't see much appeal to his work. Is he one of those authors who were revolutionary at the time but their style has simply become normalised now?
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>>24732122
>Is he one of those authors who were revolutionary at the time but their style has simply become normalised now?
Bingo.
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>>24732122
I'd recommend trying A Farewell to Arms next. The first 40% is comatose, but if you manage to get through that, it picks up and is actually quite gripping towards the end.
For whatever reason, his novels are consitently soporific at the beginning. Guess that's part of his style.
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>>24732122
>What am I missing here?
First, read a few pages from So Big by Edna Ferber. It was the best-selling book of 1924. Once you get the idea (you don't have to read much) read Hemingway's first book, "in our time." It's short stories with vignettes interspersed and came out the same year. Then you'll get why everyone went fucking batshit over this guy. The best entry point into Hemingway is def his short stories.
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>>24732122
I read most of the Hemingway novels. I only liked For Whom the Bell Tolls. Now, that's a novel with pathos. All else is some cuck-sorrow memoir.

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I'm reading The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. Unabridged.
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extremely based.

inb4 a bunch of christcuks come in here to complain its "out of date"
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>>24733755
Kept me alive through a divorce. Looked forward to getting home to it after a long day's work back then

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>They also left notes behind for a 12th volume, The Age of Darwin, as well as an outline of a 13th volume, The Age of Einstein, which would have taken The Story of Civilization to 1945.
>we will never get to read these
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these actually made me emotional
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There is a pretty solid biography of Napoleon contained in this book.
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I really liked them.
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>>24733240
KINO

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Could he have saved the modern left and prevented them from turning into what they've become if he lived?
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>>24733092
Read your own link, retard.
>>24733114
High IQ correlates with all mainstream beliefs. The group that refuses to think and tries to enforce its brainwashing as holy dogma being high IQ has always been the norm.
It's not some remarkable thing that implies anything you're trying to imply like the brainwashed retard you are.
When Christianity controlled education high IQ was associated with Christianity. It's hard to teach a low IQ person verbally, high IQ without discipline and working foundational beliefs just means you're easily controlled, like a high IQ dog is easier to train than a dumb dog.
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>>24733043
>Won't express anything approaching an original thought, just regurgitates whatever he heard the mainstream consensus is.
Change mainstream consensus to whatever "based" belief is subtly suggested to them by the mainstream xitter algorithm that pavlo'd them and you have the average MIGAtard cultist
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He probably would've trooned out if he was still alive
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>>24733147
>Read your own link, retard.
Yeah, I thought someone would do this. That chart is comparing liberals' moral allocation to conservatives' moral allocation. It says that liberals are more likely to allocate moral concern to things beside their own families than conservatives are. Read that sentence again: than conservatives are. IE, relative to conservatives, liberals more evenly allocate their moral "units." It does not say that liberals value foreigners, trees, or rocks more than their own family. Is this the part where I call you retarded?
>high IQ correlates with all mainstream beliefs
It's true that smart people are less likely to believe in conspiracy theories, yes.
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People should stop thinking in terms of left or right and start thinking in terms of dogma and heresy.


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