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What was his endgame?
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>>24765716
>Low IQ thought experiment.
Low IQ is thinking your language algorithm AI is capable of consciousness because it's capable of recursion, as you put it.
>Yes, I have.
No, you haven't. You chose the answer that would appeal to common consensus the most, like all fake philosophers.
>Consciousness can be explained entirely in materialistic terms.
Yes, in the nonsensical framework of materialism, consciousness is tautologically a physical process like everything else ever conceived according to it.

They don't actually care about the problems of self, first person perceiver, or questions such as "Why am I this person and not that person" i.e. the vertiginous question because materialism isn't actually taking consciousness into account to begin with. It's all just a completely sterile machine of morphogenesis unfolding... because it just is, okay?!
>>24765723
>people aren't p-zombies BECAUSE their brains have to interface with themselves.
That's clearly not what I asked. WHY does a brain interface with itself if there is no true consciousness to begin with?
>If your brain doesn't know what's going on inside itself it would be incapable of thinking.
In order to create higher level thought processes inside the brain, it has to be able to synthesize and interact with the processes already happening inside it. It does this by creating an image of the thoughts inside it.
Yes faggot, I am aware that we are le flesh automatons living inside of a big machine according to Dennett. To Dennett, if you use terms like "phenomenon", then you no longer qualify as a scientist, and anyone who is not a scientist should not speak of the true nature of reality.

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>>24765818
Oh I wish I was as confused as you, philosophy must be so interesting and mysterious. If you are interested in wisdom, though, try and have these discussions without using shorthand systems of control like all the "-isms" and "-ists".
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>>24765818
>if there is no true consciousness to begin with?
no one said there is no consciousness. I'm not invested in defending whatever dennett said about qualia, but he never said consciousness doesnt exist.
>You're not the person I replied to so idgaf.
yes I am, that other guy just replied before me
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>>24765804
jeffrey epstein gathered intellectual figures around himself because they were all pedophiles. doesn't mean they were all status symbols
retarded bitch
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>>24766010
>jeffrey epstein gathered intellectual figures around himself because they were all pedophiles.
proof?

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what kind of retard actually reads philosophy?
anything worth knowing at such a meta level, i've already thought or perceived myself.
the only reason why you'd want to read this shit is being a low IQ pseud who likes to feel more intelligent than he actually is.
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>I already know all there is to know
>People reading what other people knew about life and new persepectives are pseuds
I hope you're 17, OP. It'd be very cringe if you kept thinking like a teenager in your 20's.
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>>24765852
Not OP, and it's unlikely that OP really is a native philosophical genius. However, you need to understand that you are this generation's leddit atheist.
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t. lazy undergrad who gets his "insights" from internet shitposts
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>>24765987
>I just wanted to let you know that I mentally categorized you into a meme about redditors based on two posts
good for you
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>>24764968
People who actually really care about a subject tend to be strongly driven to learn about it. Because they actually care about it.

As opposed to just wanting to pose with it like a social media prop like (you) do.

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All memes aside, is does picrel have any literary or philsophical merit or is it just a bible for larpers?
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>>24757484
lol surely noone on this board takes this seriously. the guy is an e-celeb one step above indian run "save the west" twitter accounts, cashing in on zoomers discovering conservatism and building their entire ideology from social media posts and news headlines. him and raw egg nationalist are suspiciously afraid of criticizing israel for their US-enabled impunity, which makes me believe that they're on thiel's payroll
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>>24764257
Right-wing totalitarian
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>>24762531
You can't be gay and manly.
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>>24762374
>Organized crime is failure
Tell that to Mexican cartels who control bigger land mass than Aztecs ever did some of them already shaping politics too
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>>24765994
>>24763410

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How do you become a good writer
How did pynchon or mccarthy do it?
Do you just need to be born with a high iq? Cuz my iq is low 80s
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>>24764092
Reading Pynchon's early short stories in Slow Learner shows the learning process, you're not born a great writer. It's a skill you learn through practice like any other skill.
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>>24764092
First off, read a lot until you find out what you truly enjoy. Don't read to become a good writer but to develop your ability to enjoy reading for its own sake.

Then, one thing Pynchon actually did when young, and which many other writers do, is write parodies in the style of authors you admire. Robert Louis Stevenson called this the equivalent of practising musical scales.
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>>24765435
I don't think that's high IQ. By definition it isn't since IQ only tests for fast pattern recognition.
Mccarthy is introspective, he probably spent a lot of time just thinking about stuff. That's not high or low IQ, it's having an inquisitive mind and dedicating time to just processing stuff. A lot of generally stupid people have that.

You do need to spend time in silence mulling over ideas instead of filling each second of your time with scrolling, posting and listening to stuff.
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>>24765435
>You don't need a high IQ to read largely inaccessible texts
Not high IQ per se but there is definitely a specific cognitive function required to parse dense and largely inaccessible texts otherwise they wouldn’t be inaccessible
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>>24764311
>be kind to yourself

>says that the French language is so majestic and commanding that it's proof that France has a God-given duty to rule all of Europe

All right, that's it, I'm gonna learn French. I've got to see what all the fuss is about.
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>>24764343
I've had this website recommended to me for learning French:

https://www.aliceayel.com/

Thoughts?
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I talk to character.ai AI bots in French.
They even fix your shit
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>>24764482
I'm not a fan since it's a lot slower of a method but you do need a lot of listening practice in order to comprehend spoken French which this would provide
I found that that was something I was missing when I focused so much time on reading French but I only learn languages in order to read literature so I don't really care that much
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>>24764164
so was he a gallican or a papist?
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>>24764995
He is a turbo-Papist, basically thinks the Church is necessary to save us from oblivion.

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Based
>Nietzsche
>Heidegger
>Holderlin
>Devi
>Serrano
>Yockey
>Cioran
>Eliade
>Alamariu
>Schuon
>Klages
>Dugin
>Spengler
>Moldbug

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>>24764623
>Alamariu
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>>24765107
It was also traditionally the other way around but then you'd have to be slightly less biased towards what you consider tradition.
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Bump
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>>24765107
Philosophy was invented by Thales in like 600 BC as a way to explain natural phenomena without resorting to the gods. Anaxagoras was exiled for saying that the moon was a rock. Socrates was executed for subverting the traditional understanding of the gods.
Then for a short time in early christianity, writers like Origen and Tertullian shit on philosophy and reason, and even Paul himself said that philosophy was basically bad because it makes you follow "human reason" instead of God. Similarly to how Al Ghazali later wrote against the philosophers because they contradicted Islam. But then Augustine had the brilliant idea of appropriating Aristotle and Plato into Christianity and invented the idea of the "noble pagan." This was a more successful tactic than trying to get people to just stop reading the philosophers, so it stuck. Now 1600 years later, ignorant retards like you say that philosopher was "traditionally" the handmaiden of theology, when in reality that was a propaganda narrative created by a cultist named Augustine just recently.
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>>24765682
TRVKE

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bit meanspirited don't you think?
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>>24765649
no, but the suicide rate would drop to normal levels.
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>>24765623
Reminder that "trans" is not a race, it is a virus introduced to destroy a race
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>There is literally an ongoing trans genocide
>There is literally an ongoing Palestinian genocide
>There is NO ongoing trans genocide in Palestine
how do leftists rationalize this
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>>24765947
like pottery
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>>24765960
Lmao wow. Irrational and shameless, fucking hell. Which just goes to show, as it has always been with women, ignore what they say. What they say and they would do are two different things

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>Easiest shit in the world to understand
>Westoids continuously "don't get it" and as a result, seethe and cope about it constantly

You're a fucking retard if you don't understand this book.
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You say you understand it. Therefore you do not understand it.
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>>24762914
Lao Tzu didn't praise non-action. What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>24762914
Retard faggot.
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The Dao is so straightforward raw wisdom in itself that some uncle and aunt's sons here are just genetically disabled to get it.
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>>24762914
Camus literally did the same what are you talking about

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I plan to start reading more in general since I've primarily read non-fiction books. I'm going to start reading Dracula tonight.

Is the original book still the most recommended way to experience it, the 1897 edition?
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>>24765812
Basically what I meant with it as there is a lot of editions with the book is there maybe one that is considered better than the OG. I'd want the original experience and all was just curious since I notice the editions have varying lengths
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Also it feels so surreal talking in a normal way on 4chan lol. I go to /v/ a lot and it literally feels like some fever dream having people respond seriously to me and not call me a troon or faggot in every sentence
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>>24765890
Read the original. Avoid the heavily "annotated" editions that float around. Some notes about historical trivial here and there are nice, but heavy commentators about random shit of the book are usually to be biased and sour your experience.

Yes, is a good book. Especially to read in October. My recommendation is you read it slowly and maybe put some music while doing it. Is one of these books you only get to experience the ending once.
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>>24765901
/v/ is one of the most retarded boards on the site. /vr/ is a big step up in discourse. /lit/ is relatively good but not as good as it was ten years ago. Plenty of trans deranged chuds hanging out on every board at this point. Believe it or not, /mu/ used to be worthwhile.
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>>24765919
The thing is /vr/ has a more exclusive use and if I wanna talk about something generally or I guess something newer too /vr/ isn't really the place for it.
Even though funny thing is I actually don't play new shit that much at all really lol

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>>24752984
I find this funny but also sad that utter braindead cunts like this are common in the literary world and it caters to them for the most part
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>>24765428
midwit post, rap is about entertaining the crowd, or person listening to the record, poetry as it stood, was produced on the page and for the most part utterly cucked by the English public standards of the time, so that they were limited to coming up with radically creative meter because the subject matter was always the most mind-killingly mundane expression of life you could ever imagine. Rap has lots of other limitations, for example, the neccessity to hide behind symbols of bravado. DJ Premier being, for example, completely musically illiterate and forced to steal other people's music to create a beat.
The idea that someone on 4chan willingly reads meter for fun without telling anyone before or afterwards is laughable.
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>>24765953
>and for the most part utterly cucked by the English public standards of the time, so that they were limited to coming up with radically creative meter because the subject matter was always the most mind-killingly mundane expression of life you could ever imagine.

The most renowned English poet of the 19th century died in battle as part of a Homeric larp while most of his poetry reflects a combination of that with bawdy comic interludes.

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Anyone read this? I thought it would be the literary equivalent of slice-of-life anime, but it's boring as hell. When does it get good?
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>>24765221
You’ve read it with restored pronunciation?
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>>24761355
Yeah it takes a nosedive after he is exiled for being a coomer.
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>>24765233
Yes, and it doesn't rhyme
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>>24763612
I have no idea why he did it and even Genji reading guides that mention it don't have an answer (I think one of them even says "for unknown reasons").
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>>24765903
I believe it was just something like the Catalogue of the Ships in the Iliad. Just a long list of useless information.

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Someone said this part of my shelf is giving red flags? I don't think that's true at all, but maybe I missing something?
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>>24763909
>Jew propaganda to besmirch one of the only non-Jew creators
Wow, genuinely never put this together but that makes sense why they’ve latched on to it so much.
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>>24763884
/lit/ is officially reddit
"people" like OP should be publicly beheaded with a dull knife
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>>24765752
Why does your phone use nazi language?
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>>24763880
Women don't like feminised men.
We have a word for your kind in my shithole. It's "feministo". A man trying too hard to be a feminist to the point where he is despised by both females and males.
If you are a girl, it's fine, though. But I would assume you like to be shocked during sex...
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You stole this exact post from r/bookselfdetective

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Steelman it for me. Why should I read it, why is it good, and why is it enlightening?
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>>24763795
>our innate humanism derived from Christianity
LMFAO
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>>24765047
prove it. should be easy for you, right? i'm too brown to do my own research.
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>>24765641
https://www.ctvnews.ca/barrie/article/health-officials-warn-about-potential-hepatitis-a-exposure-at-barrie-tim-hortons/
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>>24765714
>Hepatitis A exposure at Tim Hortons
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>>24763883
When did I say I was a neocohen? I want the Jews and Muslims to kill each other in their shitholes. Neither should be allowed in the West.

What books do NPCs read?
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>>24764117
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>>24762244
>Ctrl-F
>"Stephen King"
>0 results found
I am disappoint
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>>24762279
SA, Facebook, and Wikipedia are only for the intellectuals, obviously
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>>24763986
>Jordan Peterson
>wash your penis self-help book
>good
i hope this is bait, I read it when it came out, I liked Peterson back then; because back in the day he was almost like a completely different person, calm and collected, I really digged his Jungian take on Bibel stories since back than I didn't even know who Carl Jung was so it was a huge mindblow to me to see someone explain these concepts, but even then, I thought his book was very underwhelming, it is basically like any other self help book, just with Jordan's lingo.
4/10 at best
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>>24764400
Has anyone who's not critical of him even read his books? I hate Vox Day but he read his books and said what everyone's shitting on him(not a real christian, postmodernist by constantly redefining everything while "shitting on postmodernism" and can't answer simple questions) on a video years ago. It's probably his best work but it's mostly the editor that did a nice montage and sped up his speech that is usually unbearably slow. He wrote a whole book about it called Jordanetics, that no one read and claimed he caused his temporary downfall with it(by hexing him???) when his wife got cancer and his daughter was being promiscuous both of which were out of his control.
>>24764359
Sexual assault is for intellectuals?

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this lil nigga said that we live to work. That there's no other meaning
don't ask me why but I unironically found that powerful
that a billionaire who's so old he could die tomorrow still cares about going to his factories worldwide to do management and oversight work there not necessarily because he cares so much but because there's literally nothing better to do than to work even after becoming a billionaire
In case you want to watch it
https://freemovieswatch.cc/movie/watch-american-factory-online-7775
or just search in Yandex "American Factory stream online" and you'll find multiple options to watch it for free
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>>24765925
here's the exact quote
>the purpose of life is to work
>what else can he (one) do but work, that's what life is for
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>>24765925
Here's another link if the one in OP doesn't work (it gives me a DNS error for whatever reason)
https://moviesjoy.is/watch-movie/american-factory-7775.5512975
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Well it depends on how you define "work." Mere drudgery, the usual 9 to 5, I might argue is not meaningful work like what this guy is doing. This guy is managing, controlling, organizing, planning. Productive and engaging stuff. That's real "work," and that sort of thing is very fulfilling. But I'm not sure it's the same as going to a factory or an office or a service job five days a week.


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