An informative pic for /lit/Plato advocated for more centralized system and unitary ideals; Aristotle advocated for political pluralism and a partnership of clans (which is the basis for a partnership of states in decentralized models).
>>24784929>Now you're saying that the term "centralized" is inadequate because it is a modern, technical term.It's inadequate because you're using a technical sounding term in order to apparently shed light, while shedding no light. You're missing the actual political understanding, and I think that's because you're abstracting from ends in favor of formal features. But without regard to the content or reasoning, the formal features are getting mixed up with modern semblances.Again, when you say, >how does this idea of a partnership of clans not adequately describe something like a confederation system where they're fully self-governing and simply united by their friendship and love of virtue in the same ideas?You've effectively misunderstood Aristotle and confused his account of the *origins* of political life with what he thinks the best political regimes are. Again, "association of families and clans" *is true of tyrannies* for Aristotle.
>>24784980>Again, "association of families and clans" *is true of tyrannies* for Aristotle.I don't think so, because Aristotle says that a tyrannical estate governs a multitude like a master over his servants.He doesn't really consider a monarchy to be a political state but economical estate.That isn't an association of families and clans or a constitution of freemen and equals.And Aristotle considers the 5th form of monarchy to be a big estate.
The way I see it -- sure, Aristotle could say that all cities are associations of families and a partnership of clans -- but another person could say that all states are more unitary bodies rather than pluralistic ones.
>"It is an essential requirement of a working-class party to ensure the unity of ideology and leadership. This is effected by establishing the Party's monolithic ideological system. Only when this is done can the whole Party be armed with the Leader's intention and become a living organism, breathing and acting in conformity with his idea and will.">"It is important in establishing the Party's monolithic ideological system to pervade the whole Party with the Leader's idea.">"The Leader is the embodiment of the organizational will of the whole Party and his idea is explicitly the guiding ideology of the Party. The ideological unity of the Party is brought about only on the basis of the Leader's idea."- Kim Jong IlIf you look at other State Corporatist regimes like North Korea -- where the whole people act as One Person through the Workers' Party of Korea -- that is very much like what Plato was saying.Here is a State Corporatism in North Korea:>Only when this is done can the whole Party be armed with the Leader's intention and became a living organism
>Our Party equipped all our people fully with the Juche idea, united them closely behind the Leader organizationally, ideologically and morally, and thus made the revolutionary ranks a socio-political organism.>Today the Workers' Party of Korea stands firmly in the centre of the revolutionary ranks in our country, and the masses of the people, who have withstood every manner of ordeal by sharing their destiny with the Party in the long revolutionary struggle, are united rock-firm behind the Party and the Leader, sharing one mind and one will.- Kim Jong Il"Thus made the revolutionary ranks a socio-political organism" says Kim Jong Il, which is a kind of State Corporatism, that is, making the people into one corporate entity.>The Leader is the supreme controller of a party, and the party's leadership is precisely his leadership. Our Party has set up a well-regulated system under which all its organizations and members act as one man under the unitary leadership of the great leader Comrade Kim Il Sung, give absolute authority to Party policies and defend and implement them without question.- Kim Jong IlHe says "all its organizations and members act as one man"
I stopped reading in my late teens. Every year I promise I'll get back to it, but I never have the energy or the motivation. I've lost the war of willpower.
Faggot
>>24784890I did too. Drugs, sex, and socialising got in the way; alongside starting University, which meant that when I had to read it was for coursework and not for the joy of expanding my knowledge or pleasure. This year though I have developed a re-found love for reading. I was a voracious reader from the age of 4, and my Mum always indulged my reading and would always buy me a book if I asked for it. I read throughout my childhood and teens and it was only in late teens that I slowed down, I probably only read 3-5 books a year from 17-24. But now at 24, nearly 25 I'm on about 25~ books a year. My goal is to reach at least 40 a year.
>>24784940So basically your life is perfect. What are you doing here?
>I normied too. Norms, normie, and normalising got in the way; alongside norming Normiversity, which meant that when I had to normie it was for normiework and not for the joy of norming my normage or normiesure. This year though I have normied a re-found norm for norming. I was a voracious normie from the age of 4, and my Mum always normied my norming and would always norm me a book if I normied for it. I normied throughout my childhood and teens and it was only in late teens that I normied down, I probably only normie 3-5 norms a year from 17-24. But now at twenty-norm, nearly normie-five I'm on about 25~ norms a year. My goal is to normie at least normie a year.
>God does not exist, He is being-itself.Is he right?
>>24784724>being does not existWas he retarded?
>>24784852>>24784873>>24784893
>>24784820That is like the most basic Monist comment imaginable - âthinking as beingâ and being as above change. God wouldnât exist as he isnât outside of the creation but rather is part of it.
>>24784893I feel like you should first clarify what you mean by God being existence, and what a "shadow-existence" would mean. Perhaps you mean a shadow-existence in a broader sense, like if God is the universe's first moment and his creations are that moment's consequences, but you can't just attribute to God things that don't make sense.
>>24784925clive was a P.I.M.P.
Which epic poems have you read, anons? And what do you think of the epic? Can epic poetry be written in the modern period? Think âAâ, Cantos, Paterson, and Omeros.
>>24771243What truths
>>24773596POD?
>>24784775Print on demand
>>24784751>Divine Comedy>folk talekill yourself
i havent read hesiod but i intend to
When you write or speak, do you consciously look for words or are they delivered unto you by Mnemosyne herself?
>>24778499>>24778499One of the funniest parts of /lit/ is that everyone here likes to screech about how twitter is le shitter is le heckin trannies is blah blah but everyone uses images from twitter constantly (this thread, for example) and starts threads based on twitter hot topics constantly
>>24780458this image is from reddit, sir
>>24780458We get xitter screenshot threads all the time, not one missing in a day. I wonder why we hate xitter so much, it's practically posted by OP (She/They/Shey/Xhi) everyday!!
>>24778499Who?
>>24778499>Good morning, Clarice
I read some of the "anti-racist" biographies at the public library, and the level of hatred these brown women have towards white girls is insane. There was one with a black girl at some anti-racist seminar just demeaning and making fun of this white woman doing her best to apologize for her implicit biases and privilege. With all these books about race being published everywhere, all these experiences as a diaspora. When is the actual unspoken truth going to get published? the burning resentment and hatred that non-white women have towards white women? Or is that too much for the publishing industry?
>>24784495None of this really applies to non-diaspora, it doesn't really apply 100% to diaspora either. I just feel pure hatred and resentment based on race because our culture is undermined and our people are being attacked. Am I being particularly nasty and mean spirited? Yes, absolutely. But this is me being the one nasty person throwing dirt directly back, compared to the hundreds of books and an entire anti-white industry embedded in government and the corporations. But you're right, I'll tone down the hatred and seethe.>>24784699I just don't see young women doing the boatscrote shilling anymore to a sizable degree. Sure, some wealthy ones do. But take a cursory look at any pro-boatscrote protest in the UK and it's all old women. Germany has a whole "Omas gegen Rechts" (grannies against the right) because boomers have to 100% make sure we exist as a dispossessed minority in our homelands, it's really really that important to them.
>>24784110>but pulling the dick out of my ass will cost me : (Just a bunch of cowardice and excuses. You're in the era of "black fatigue" becoming one of the most widely shared and appreciated memes on the internet. The public's ready for it, and you didn't even have to do any of the work. Find your balls and start pushing the envelope. Alternatively, make some lifestyle changes and surround yourself with people you don't silently look down on.
>>24784770Eh don't worry I understand why you chimp out like that, as I say before, whites have been completely defang and made the safe target to attack. So its normal you start spraying venom to everyone
>>24779476The astronomically overwhelming majority of books published in English in the 2020s are by white people.
>>24779467The level of hatred all humans have in general is insane. They're like rats.
Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg>Previous:>>24753638 (Cross-thread)>Thread Question:You are thrown into the world of the last book you read. Where are you, what are you doing and what are your plans?
>>24784312No, his earlier work wasn't like this at all.I swear he had an idea for a movie, but he was like, "Fuck, I need to write it as a book first" and he just spewed out the first things that came to mind with no thought.https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/james-cameron-write-joe-abercrombie-the-devils-1236235447/I remember it gets worse as it goes on, good luck anon.
>>24784463Needs to be anime
>>24784463Having James Cameron do the writing with you seems like an insult even for Abercrombie. Also it's not like Jimbo will ever film it but if it did you know he would outsource city design sp you'd get pajeet AI- Vatican immediately.
>>24784265Sorry horsefag. Maybe she'll turn things around in Red God. If she and Darrow lose hopefully she'll get a noble death at least. Abomination redemption arc incoming btwAlso Victra best girl.>>24784269This. Ruocchio is a big Iain Banks fan thoughbeit.
>>24784484How is it an insult? Cameron writes all of his movies, and he's written some other people's movies too
just a cool factoid
>>24784248Based. Did you get bored of your middle class lifestyle and crashed out drunk and now have found yourself in a drug smoking meth?
And I'm descended from Arthur
>>24784290No I was always poor.
>>24784303Same, but also due to population collapse and statistics so is basically every European, just not documented, insofar as there was a specific king that the legend is based on.
>>24784197>Fanfic character descended from fanfic characterWow cool.
Is LOTR anything more than a trip to candy mountain or what? I never read the book or watched the movies.
It's a rather plain jane fantasy adventure series.
>>24784909like Shrek?
>>24784910that is rather satirical, or at least comedically inverted, not plain jane.
The quest to mount doom definitely drives the plot like you would expect, but LotR is a very 'big' book, and ultimately the quest is the tip of the ice-berg. The one ring, for example, is a truly clever plot and thematic device, the extent of which took more than one read through for me to fully understand. But I'm a retard, so idk.
>>24784943The One Cock Ring
>be gay hedonist>write definitive story of how being a gay hedonist ruins your life and destroys everything of beauty and value you touch>get your dick cut off and locked in a tower until you die>gay hedonists: "omg hes so based"I feel like the entire situation could have been handled better by all parties involved.
You either die unrecognized or live long enough in the minds of others to be horrendously mischaracterized.
how do you respond without sounding mad ?? OR are you not mad at all ??
>>24782357i pirate all my books so all the authors i like stay poor and be fueled by their poverty into writinng better ones thinking those will sell (they won't, i'm just gonna pirate those too)only retards don't pirate so only books aimed at those retards sell, sad but true
For me, it's Sarah J Maas.
>>24784605SEXO!!
>>24782357These are all smut, yeah?--Her and adjacent authors. Can I get a confirmation on that? That would inform me of the mental state of somebody I know. . . who has a library worth of this stuff. Thankss.
>>24782357How rockin are her tiddies? Is she doinkable? She's a 4/10 maxI don't read YA as a rule, though I don't care if it exists >>24784605Deffo drinkable, she's like an 8/20
Post your own work and critique others.
>>24780953nah
>>24782378retard
What's the best poetic form for a depressive poem?
why did you have tobreak my heart so callouslyafter what we shared
Rapid, the air begun to cool, and quitesharplyâin the short period since dinnerâas it does on many an autumn nightwhen April fails in muffling the Sun's fury during his daily tear across the sky. The walls of my new house were thin; the gapbetween the front door and the porch cementwas wide, and I felt the sting of the East Windrubbing its Ocean-scented unguent over the irritated scab of Earth I live atop of, as it seeped into,and throughout every bit of the living-room.I might've liked the chill a bit betterif I weren't already down to my undies.
In a recent study published by John Hopkins University students were asked to write a translation of the first few paragraphs of Bleak House in clear, modern English. They were given dictionaries, access to the Internet, and as much time as they needed. Despite this, 49 of the 85 students failed to do so. Sentence after sentence, they could not grasp what Dickens was saying; i.e., they were incapable of figuring out who or what a sentence was talking about, did not understand the imagery or metaphors, could not translate long or complex sentences into shorter, simpler ones, and could not identify the main ideas being described. As such, the researchers deemed this group to be "problematic readers"
>>24783296Everytime i try to read dickens i find it tedious despite being able to read what many consider to be more "difficult". English is my only language and I can read more archaic English. I just haven't enjoyed any excerpt from Dickens
>>24781434That is a deliberate style choice. Like the banging of a gavel or the formulation of a legal document. It's almost like a telegram message, very mechanical and cold, reflected both in the weather/atmosphere of the scene and the contents of it (pertaining to a court of law). It's meant to sketch an unpleasant scene, a scene that makes you uneasy and on edge against the injustices about to unfold.
>>24783888He does have a particular style, but once you get into it, there is no one better. I like the whole first few pages of A Tale of Two Cities, but just consider this little excerpt:France, less favoured on the whole as to matters spiritual than her sister of the shield and trident, rolled with exceeding smoothness down hill, making paper money and spending it. Under the guidance of her Christian pastors, she entertained herself, besides, with such humane achievements as sentencing a youth to have his hands cut off, his tongue torn out with pincers, and his body burned alive, because he had not kneeled down in the rain to do honour to a dirty procession of monks which passed within his view, at a distance of some fifty or sixty yards. It is likely enough that, rooted in the woods of France and Norway, there were growing trees, when that sufferer was put to death, already marked by the Woodman, Fate, to come down and be sawn into boards, to make a certain movable framework with a sack and a knife in it, terrible in history. It is likely enough that in the rough outhouses of some tillers of the heavy lands adjacent to Paris, there were sheltered from the weather that very day, rude carts, bespattered with rustic mire, snuffed about by pigs, and roosted in by poultry, which the Farmer, Death, had already set apart to be his tumbrils of the Revolution. But that Woodman and that Farmer, though they work unceasingly, work silently, and no one heard them as they went about with muffled tread: the rather, forasmuch as to entertain any suspicion that they were awake, was to be atheistical and traitorous.
>>24784045>very mechanical and coldmy kind of literature
>>24784049this is just the style of the time, which we generously do not formally refer to as 'deliberately embarrassing'
Satanic panic edition. Old >>24736100
>>24783703This but the opposite.
What else would I like if I liked Aickman's brand of subtle horror more than the "woahh it has like a million eyes and a billion teeth and omfg I'm going cuhrayzeee!" brand of horror that is popular nowadays?
>>24784679For older, M.R. James, for newer, Reggie Oliver. You could also check out Walter de la Mare for another older author, but I found his prose dry and difficult to get through.
>>24784679Dark Gods by T.E.D. KleinDark Companions by Ramsey CampbellSongs of a Dead Dreamer by Thomas Ligotti
>>24776932It's not racist in content but in essence. "Evil aliens invading" and "ancestral curses" are just niggers invading and niggers passing on their shit genetics.
What are some of the funniest /lit/ related things you've seen?
I don't remember if this one is /lit/ or /mu/ but either way it's still funny
>>24784579I mean this German is typing in English and so should be using English format of quotation marks.
>>24784906English speakers should be using nordic runes instead of the Latin alphabet.
