[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/lit/ - Literature

Name
Spoiler?[]
Options
Subject
Comment
Verification
4chan Pass users can bypass this verification. [Learn More] [Login]
File[]
  • Please read the Rules and FAQ before posting.

08/21/20New boards added: /vrpg/, /vmg/, /vst/ and /vm/
05/04/17New trial board added: /bant/ - International/Random
10/04/16New board for 4chan Pass users: /vip/ - Very Important Posts
[Hide] [Show All]


[Advertise on 4chan]

[Catalog] [Archive]

File: 1750830367145736.webm (3.86 MB, 802x802)
3.86 MB
3.86 MB WEBM
I can't deal with the hurt of pining over females anymore. How do I completely kill the instinct for female intimacy within me? Any Lit that will kill romantic delusion? I'm so tired and it hurts too much.
>Bingo, Bingo, baby
>I love you, ain't that crazy?
>I want you, I want you over again
>Bingo, Bingo, baby
>I love you, ain't that crazy?
>I want you, I want you over again
32 replies and 2 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24954191
>>24954868
stupid answers. just do semen retention OP. you're only as horny as you allow yourself to be. the default response is usually just to masturbate. don't do it, and put your mind to other things. eventually you'll magnetise not just women but people in general. IGAF if anyone says otherwise. I and a lot of other people have lived through and enjoyed this. life's just good
>>
File: 1765905773341461.jpg (63 KB, 959x765)
63 KB
63 KB JPG
>>24954850
unironically
>>
>>24954219
that sounds miserable. i get it.
>even IF i was in her pussy, i'd derive more pleasure from locking myself in my room and getting fucked up on opiates
>doing that ruins your life
>>
>>24955180
>eventually you'll magnetise not just women but people in general
source?
>>
>>24952024
Read tons of manga, and jerk off to ero doujins 3 hours per day

File: 04815.jpg (302 KB, 1485x1248)
302 KB
302 KB JPG
What was Solzhenitsyn's mistake?
>>
File: IMG_20251214_235333_663.jpg (88 KB, 1033x1150)
88 KB
88 KB JPG
>>24956444
Not revealing his judophobe persona from the start
>>
>>24956444
What vidya?
>>
>>24956444
Was just thinking about how depressed this dood would be by modern Russia. He was deluding himself at the end that the post-Soviet period had anything of a revival, but it got way, way worse.

Very sad when I think about these things. The man endured so much by clinging to a (delusional) belief system; the sufferings end, and he begins to hope - and then this! It's all so sad.
>>
>>24956444
It could've been when they rebelled in the gulag? He gives up in the end.

File: 1676173964671272.jpg (142 KB, 1175x818)
142 KB
142 KB JPG
I've noticed that a lot of sophist philosophizing is based around this concept of "nonexistence". But it seems obvious that "nonexistence" just isn't a real thing right?
How can something exist that by its own definition does not exist? It's just a nonsense idea made up of circular reasoning. There cannot exist a thing that doesn't exist. Everything that exists exists and there is nothing else. Existence by definition is an all encompassing concept. You can't logically accept that things exist and then turn around and say there are things that don't.
And logically the concept of nonexistence is already nonsensical but if you believe in determinism the idea really just gets defeated many times over.
55 replies and 7 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24953662
That's a good question. I don't pretend to have all the answers. I only expect that whatever answer is given, it be coherent/conform to the nature of reality.

I don't think "underlying" is helpful, because existence is flat - everything is what it is, absolutely, with no thing being more real than any other. But if you want to talk about scope or breadth, then sure, cast a lasso around "raw meat" and "cooked meat" and call it "meat" - I agree that they're common in that they are "of meat", just as they're common in that they are "of reality"/exist.

As for causality, yeah, there are major issues with how people describe it. If you want to say that the raw meat is near the fire, and then there is cooked meat, great, I agree. And each is what it is, as always. So now causation will become some sort of proximity in accordance with some system of possibility. You can describe the shape and content of being - where there is fire and raw meat there is also cooked meat nearby, chronologically & spatially. But those who say that one thing causes another to be what it is, or to be what it is not, lmao. It all hangs together as one perfectly completely whole wherein everything is what it is in its own right, a grand amalgamation of all that ever is, and causation is just the product of retards wearing blinkers, who think they are saying something meaningful when they blather on about generation and destruction. OP has realised their words are worthless - what they type is as meaningful as chicken scratches in the dust

>>24954799
Not disagreeing with you, but it's not a counter-point.
>>
>>24955919
This just sounds like Humeanism, and denies knowledge as much as the claim that something comes from nothing. If there's no causal relation between a piece of raw meat and a fire resulting in a piece of cooked meat, then putting our hands in the fire is on the table. It doesn't cause us to be burnt, after all, according to you.
>>
>>24956042
Putting Hume aside (not someone I've ever read or cared for), how am I denying knowledge if I am asserting a bunch of facts like here is raw meat, here is cooked meat, here is fire, etc, etc. If anything I am the ultimate supporter of knowledge - absolute knowledge, because whatever you know it is what it is, for there only is what is - truth all round, and the only issue is whether a person says something or merely squawks like a bird.

But anyway, whether or not I have said anything about knowledge, that fact will never make "something come from nothing" meaningful. Nor will it create a "causal relation" between anything, if "causal relation" consists of some jumble of nonsense about things being what they are not. You can say that a hand moving towards the fire bears a close relationship to a hand in the fire, but please do not be like the vast crowd of idiots who bleat out that "a hand before the flames" is "a hand burnt to a crisp".

Anyway, I must return to Age of Decadence. Enjoy your evening, literary greatness awaits me.
>>
>>24956066
>how am I denying knowledge if I am asserting a bunch of facts like here is raw meat, here is cooked meat, here is fire, etc,
Your "knowledge" only answers what-questions, no why-questions. "Why does fire near raw meat CONSISTENTLY replace raw meat with cooked meat?" Knowledge will provide an account of the fire as a cause, and will elaborate further by how it's the heat in the fire that does the work, and will connect the example to the heat of boiling water as further example of heat working on raw meat to cook it, and will explain why the cooked meat by fire or by boiling differ in certain effects. With your account, again, you can put your hand in fire and there's no necessary consequence. If you really believe that fire won't burn you to a crisp, feel free to show us plebs visual proof.
>>
>>24955919
>>24956090
This is a very good rebuttal, actually. At the very least, we should want to understand the “shape” of the current that leads from raw meat to cooked meat through the application of heat. Maybe we can talk about that without saying anything about creation or destruction. Also, talk more about how some stories are better than others and justify why and how “better” stories are possible in general.

What is the oldest book you've read that really disturbed you
I just finished reading Matthew Lewis' The Monk and was surprised by how brutal it still is after over two centuries
100 replies and 28 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24955858
king really didn't do any lovecraft stuff besides that one short story in night shift. he's not the person to go to for that. maybe find a compendium of cthulhu mythos stories by different writers. plenty of people just as talented or more talented than king wrote lovecraftian tales. fritz leiber, clark ashton smith, robert bloch, colin wilson, robert howard, the list goes on.
>>
>>24955866
>maybe find a compendium of cthulhu mythos stories by different writers
I did do that lol, a few months ago during Spooktober. There were some good ones.
>>
>>24953299
>>24953391
Swift to Chase is his worst collection thus far. TBTAUA is on par with Occultation and better than most of The Imago Sequence in my opinion. His newest one might tie with Swift seeing as I don't remember a single story from it.

I felt like an asshole being as critical of Not A Speck once I read that the man almost died recently and has been in poor health.

The Croning is his magnum opus.
>>
>>24956057
That's good to hear, I'll definitely check out Beautiful Thing at some point. And yeah, I personally felt that Imago had a lot of weak stories, with the exception of "The Procession of the Black Sloth", "Hallucigenia", and "The Imago Sequence", all of which are great and stick out far above the other stories.
>>
>>24955861
Good call anon. Where on earth do you live though?

File: Kill_The_Hero.jpg (85 KB, 480x672)
85 KB
85 KB JPG
Kill The Slopper Edition

Stubbed >>24949498

>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.

Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
240 replies and 22 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24956506
Main attraction of my fantasy city.
>>24956509
MOGGED
>>
>>24956514
You just ripped off one of the most famous landmarks in the world to liven up your fantasy city? Why not add the eiffel tower or the statue of liberty too while at it?
>>
>>24956528
>Ripped of
Wrong, my Paris's pyramid is as huge as an egyptian one, and sculptured from solidified Mana.
Sadly, my version wouldn't fit well in the cover.
>>
>>24956493
what would you name a female demon
>>
>>24956545
Lily.
Jokes aside, literally anthing else. Some really outlandish name as a "true name" is cool

File: IMG_3821.jpg (39 KB, 415x739)
39 KB
39 KB JPG
Should I start with Eliade or Varg Vikernes for a better understanding of paganism?
11 replies and 2 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24956364
Outside of /pol/ this board has the highest african population
>>
>>24956372
No, it doesn't.
>>
>>24956248
Eliade if you want to actually understand esoteric symbolism better. Varg if you want the pagan equivalent to religious fundamentalism + muh heritage.
>>
>>24956291
>buzzwords, buzzwords, buzzwords!
you are mentally, if not physically, 16 at best.
>>
>>24956266
>>24956276
I've read the bible. It is not the word of God.
Jesus did not rise and he's never coming back.
You need to come to terms with this.

Sapient Species, Races, and Miscellaneous Sapients Edition

FAQ:
>What is worldbuilding?
Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.
>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"
Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.
>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"
If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.
>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"
Yes, of course you can!
>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"
Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.

Old Thread: >>24748733
272 replies and 45 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24956069
like (you) when you keep remaking this thread and bumping it when it's about to fall off
>>
>>24956069
Presumably like in The House on the Borderland by William Hope Hodgson or The White Ship by Lovecraft, in that the main character has an epic dream and at the end of the dream is back at home like it had all been a dream, but some readers think the character is in a new universe now.
>>
>>24868365
>Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch
Oh really? What have you created that wasn't a mashup of cliches? I really want to know.
>>
>>24956374
An alternate history world where the little ice age was worse. Industrialization was truncated, and economic thought tends to derive from physiocratic-like schools. Though you have also a lot of thought that ressembles classical economics. I'm still reading up on it. It is meant to be mostly about economics, social structures, agriculture, ecology. There's still war, but the scenario is more than just war.
It is still a work in process though. I'm still trying to figure out what I am going to do with the Americas, Oceania, frica, SOutheasia. Lots of reading.
>>
>>24956069
Throw a stone in a pond. The ripples are the universe. Eventually the ripples stop and the universe ends.

Then throw another stone in the pond.

File: 1765760969544318.jpg (136 KB, 922x1024)
136 KB
136 KB JPG
What books should I read in public to attract women?
78 replies and 12 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
File: before sunrise.jpg (78 KB, 1280x726)
78 KB
78 KB JPG
>>24953269
that's true btw
>>
>>24953868
>matched
So you never met her then since you left it at "matched"
>>
>>24955746
Would you go farther with such a girl anon?
>>
>>24953267
I'd like to blow a disgusting gifilte-fish-tasting spermwad down her evil throat and watch her swallow
>>
File: Pierceknowsbest.jpg (95 KB, 1395x775)
95 KB
95 KB JPG
>>24955444
Based Pierce. Also checked.

7 replies omitted. Click here to view.
>>
Bump
>>
>>24954588
Trivium is just a pseud LARP marketed to midwits too dumb to notice it's just boomer-tier Reading, wRiting, aRithmetic nonsense.
>>
>>24956111
>Renaissance is just a pseud LARP marketed to midwits too dumb to notice it's just scholastics-tier lectio, meditatio, quaestio nonsense.
>>
>Trivium:
Read aristotle most notably organon
>Quadrivium:
Read euclid elements, iamblichus theology of arithmetic, nicomachus manual of harmonic, ptolemy tetrabiblos
>>
>>24954588
gay thread for retards. just read more books and spend more time writing anons.

File: Suttree_-_.jpg (748 KB, 1949x2848)
748 KB
748 KB JPG
Was he on a mission to write the most exhaustingly dense prose without using any dependent clauses?
9 replies omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24956219
It's he's only good novel
>>
>>24956346
>>24956410
>bunch of retarded ESLs
>>
>>24956335
>english is too difficult for me, I'm worn out by these obscure words like perambulation and ambulance
okay, retard
>>
>>24956495
What the fuck are you even saying, retard?
You have clearly never read the book if you think Suttree is one of the simpler Mccarthy's.
>>
>>24956286
I wonder how many people read the first page, which isn't too far off from this: >One could, after a protracted and almost ceremonially circuitous perambulation through the briar patch of lexical extravagance, rhetorical grandiosity, and ostentatiously sesquipedalian flourish...
except beautiful, and then give up long before they get to the watermelon fucking or Lolly Crushing.

File: Shakespeare-facts-1.jpg (66 KB, 635x404)
66 KB
66 KB JPG
>dude you have to read this guy
>umm he's LITERALLY the most quoted author in the english language
>how have you not read this already
Pocked up Hamlet and I have never read a more overhyped, convoluted, edgy teenagers diary in my life. It is literally just arust fund prince moping around a castle for five acts because he is upset his dad died and his mom moved on.

The whole thing is just people talking in circles:
>to be or not to be
wow, so deep. You are contemplating suicide because you are to indecisive to actually do anything about your uncle. The guy spends more time giving soliloquies to the skull of some dead clown he knew than he does actually taking revenge. Which, by the way, he finally does by accident in a poorly choreographed sword fight at the end. So brave. Much tragedy.

And then there's the language whereover we all fucking fawn. (even though for every woe is me and the lady doth protest too much there are two dozen lines of forced garbage)

Also, Ophelia is just so horribly underwritten I can't bring myself to give a shit.

The play is full of plotholes, to. Why does not anyone just search the castle for the old kings body. Why does Hamlet agree to a fencing match with the guy he knows murdered his dad? Why is everyone named fuck as shit like Polonius, Laertes, and Ophelia? Could not tell them apart if my life depended on it.


Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
18 replies and 2 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24956078
Did you?

To be, or not to be, that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles
And by opposing end them. To die—to sleep,
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to: 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep, perchance to dream—ay, there's the rub:
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come,
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,

Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>
>>24955527
>>24956078
Plays aren't meant to be read any more than a picture is meant to be tasted. It's your fault for doing something as stupid as picking up a script and expecting to get it by simply reading it. Go to the theater, dipshit.
>>
>>24956274
why is Hamlet being made as a book if it's not meant to be read? checkmate.
>>
>>24956274
I mean you can read a script and have a good time. It’s just a bit dry
>>
>>24956274
if you can rotate an apple in your mind you should be able to enjoy the play.

File: shec.jpg (136 KB, 1001x1500)
136 KB
136 KB JPG
This book changed my life for the better
148 replies and 10 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24950554
I have a 7" cock and I find this fucking disgusting. If my gf said some vile shit like this to me I would end things with her.
>>
>>24956077
>Men are perfectly content with women with small tits and flat asses
Nah, that's just (you).

>Men are sincerely able to look past appearances and physicality
All kinds of people can, most just don't want to.
>>
>>24956342
I have a 7.5" cock and I'm pretty sure my gf thinks things like this but she's happy with what I have, she probably thinks she won the lottery or something. You should assume all women think that way.
>>
>>24956008
Why do you hate cats?
>>
>>24950554
Rape: justified

File: kaf.jpg (31 KB, 500x500)
31 KB
31 KB JPG
I had to drop this because K is just so insufferable. Was this Kafkas intention or was it just in his jewish nature to write a horrible person and act like hes the victim? I got about halfway and these were my thoughts.

The story starts with K immigrating to a new country, he gives him self the title of "surveyor" (doctor&lawyer) but he shows no ability of how to actually preform that job, or any job.
Upon arriving to the new town the citizens are hesitant to take him in but allow him to stay out of the goodness of their hearts, which he fully takes advantage of. The local government provides him with ample opportunity, housing (which displaces local residence)food and supplies(at the cost of the villagers) and even a new job but K. expects even more.
The cuckoo, the brood parasite, the jew
Unable to create anything of its own, it can only destroy the nest, the culture, the people who act its host. upon giving his own residence, he destroys that too. A violent animal incapable of assimilation.

Is there a reason to keep going or is it just gona be more jewish tricks?
2 replies omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24955195
K in the Trial is an asshole too, he worms his way into that woman's room and sits down on her bed and she keeps trying to get him to leave and when she finally gets him out the door, he forces a long kiss on her, and she tries to avoid him for the rest of the story but he keeps stalking her thinking she's in love with him
>>
>>24955123
Sounds interesting. Reinforces the no outsiders/strangers mantra the ancients had.
>>
>>24955123
I'd be fucking pissed too if I came all the way out to some podunk ass dutchy for a land surveyor job that turned out to have been sent out by a clerical error, and then made me supervise two of the most irritating little dickwads the count's bureaucratic machine could throw at me.
>>
>>24955123
that's the joke, dummy
>>
>>24955195
I came away with the same impression reading The Trial and I'm pretty sure it was the point.

There's a comedic element to The Trial in that while the government and the courts seem quite dystopian in that the way they act comes off as arbitrary, ruthless and aloof but there's also the fact that K is kinda... the worst possible subject. He's convinced he can win his trial through pure stubbornness and righteous indignation and never seeks professional assistance unless he's literally bullied into doing so.

There's this really funny scene rather early on when he's attending his initial hearing with a judge and he spends the entire hearing monologuing about how unfairly he's being treated and how he's going to take down the entire corrupt institution, never even letting the judge a word in until he's dismissed.

I don't think you're meant to think of K as this sympathetic everyman who's up against overbearing institutions. He's clearly meant to be kind of a shithead.

File: images (27).jpg (15 KB, 597x335)
15 KB
15 KB JPG
Anyone else see Dick Van Dyke as Jason Taverner. Just finished this book. Still scratching my head at how KR 3 turned that girl into a skeleton.
7 replies omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24952210
You will never be white.
>>
>>24952195
There's lots that go unexplained in the book. Like for example the transition between the first scene and the second where Jason's ex gf siccs the alien sucker monster on him, and then the rest of the plot runs without ever really acknowledging it again.
>>
>>24952205
Like PKD?
>>
>>24950742
>Still scratching my head at how KR 3 turned that girl into a skeleton.
PKD was very bad at trying to explain the “science” in his stories, in most of them none of it makes any sense if seen as anything other than fantasy. You have to take it at face value.
>>
>>24954943
The opposite of what Lucas did.

File: 1644896083160.jpg (161 KB, 816x1024)
161 KB
161 KB JPG
>age
>location
>current read
207 replies and 34 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>37
>USA
>Lost on Venus by Burroughs
>>
>>24931414
20s
midwest
The Trackers by Charles Frazier
>>
>>24944034
I finished it and am now reading Lolita, am about half way through and will be onto a re-read of The Odyssey (Fagles) or the first volume of Proust's ISOLT
>>
>26
>Kansas
>The Foundation trilogy
Seems pretty gay so far but as a /tg/ autist I'm sure I'll like it by the end.
>>24933314
Kant is drier than a peanut butter and asshole sandwich, don't do this to yourself man. He was also a 5'2 autistic freak who died a virgin. You don't have to read his blogpost to understand skepticism is gay.
>>
>>24931681
Finished revolt of the masses.
I am reading Kierkegaard Either/Or now


[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.