>read The Sorrows Of Young Werther>it's proto-simp literature of its time>read Elective Affinities>it keeps getting more and more ridiculous in its moral whitewashing of its characters with every chapter>keep waiting for some sort of divine punishment or moral>end up with a sequence where within 5 or so pages a baby has died, the culprit is forgiven, the parents feel glad it's gone and they're all just horny to fuck each other now that the baby is out of the way>main heroine again an heroes >there's no moral>apparently wanting to divorce your wife to fuck her nubile niece and wanting to divorce your husband to fuck his friend is based and properWtf? I am now very hesitant to move onto Faust. It seems to me Goethe was literally just a simp who placed some cringy love above everything. I expected more but these are literally just romanceschlock for moids instead of foids. The more old and revered literature I read, the more I keep getting >my friend>my love>oh dear gracious God>loving sure is good and the bestest best, surely you agree my friend>yes my friend whom I loveComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>when will this book finally get to longhousing me into accepting a moral lesson
>>25189495They were more austere and cerebral. I prefer that.
>>25187262Says the homosexual of soul like the OP
>>25189495Of course Schopenhauer and Nietzsche knew heartache.
>>25187262>when will yahweh strike down these wicked sinners for having desireSuffice to say Faust will also be lost on you.
"The I is a pure act, a pure doing, which cannot be objectified in knowledge, precisely because it is the principle of all knowledge. If it is to become an object of knowledge, this must happen through a kind of knowing entirely different from common knowledge.This knowledge must:a) be absolutely free, precisely because all other knowledge is not free; that is, a knowledge in which no proofs, conclusions, or any mediation of concepts intervene at all—indeed, a knowledge that is, in the strictest sense, a pure intuition;b) be a knowledge whose object is not independent of it; that is, a knowledge in which the object is simultaneously produced by it—a kind of intuition that produces freely and in which the producer and the produced are one and the same.Such an intuition stands in contrast to sensory knowledge, which does not appear as producing its object, where the intuition itself is different from the intuited; this is called intellectual intuition.Such an intuition is the I, because through the knowledge of the I, the I itself (the object) first comes into being."
Auf Deutsch:»D𝔞s Ich ist reiner Akt, reines Tun, w𝔞s schlechthin nichtobjektiv sein muß im Wissen, eben deswegen, weil es Prinzip 𝔞lles Wissens ist. Soll es 𝔞lso Objekt des Wissens werden, so muß dies durch eine vom gemeinen Wissen g𝔞nz verschiedene Art zu wissen geschehen.Dieses Wissen muß𝔞) ein 𝔞bsolut-freies sein, eben deswegen, weil 𝔞lles 𝔞ndere Wissen nicht frei ist, 𝔞lso ein Wissen, wozu nicht Beweise, Schlüsse, überh𝔞upt Vermittlung von Begriffen führen, 𝔞lso überh𝔞upt ein Ansch𝔞uen;b) ein Wissen, dessen Objekt nicht von ihm un𝔞bh𝔞̈ngig ist, 𝔞lso ein Wissen, d𝔞s zugleich ein Produzieren seines Objekts ist – eine Ansch𝔞uung, welche überh𝔞upt frei produzierend, und in welcher d𝔞s Produzierende mit dem Produzierten eins und d𝔞sselbe ist.
Eine solche Ansch𝔞uung wird im Gegens𝔞tz gegen die sinnliche, welche nicht 𝔞ls Produzieren ihres Objekts erscheint, wo 𝔞lso d𝔞s Ansch𝔞uen selbst vom Angesch𝔞uten verschieden ist, intellektuelle Ansch𝔞uung gen𝔞nnt.Eine solche Ansch𝔞uung ist d𝔞s Ich, weil durch d𝔞s Wissen des Ichs von sich selbst d𝔞s Ich selbst (d𝔞s Objekt) erst entsteht.«
>Maybe the real meaning was the boulders we pushed along the way!
>>25185732midwit
>BUT CAMUS! Couldn't this potentially mean that free will is an illusion?!?>Yes but that gives me bad vibes + I feel like I have free will therefore I do even if I actually don't. Also quantum fluctuations and shit.
>>25185726Why is there not only one, but two threads up about this proto redditor for 19 year olds?
>>25189742>>25189794Nice buzzwords, gaylords.
>>25189776>he holds your hand and gently explains absurdism>retards still miss the point entirely
>Genesis was a snore fest of lineages that I didn't bother to remember(This begot that guy, that guy begot him, him begot he, no one in-between has any relevance to the plot so you could've just skipped them and said that he was a descendant of this guy)>It still had enough edge/grit/tension to keep me reading through it>Start Exodus, know that there were alot of adaptations and homages to it so maybe this one is better>The entire first act is just a cycle of Pharoah refusing to let 'em go, then a plague comes, then he let's them go before saying 'SIKE!'>The rest of the book is a tent building guideYeah, I think I understand why even the fans don't even read ts
>>25178804Yeah the old testament is a struggle to read for a lot of it and one of the reasons I call people LARPers when they say the Bible is their favorite book. The new testament is a better place to start if you don't have a ultra serious scholarly interest in the bible.
>>25178804Leviticus was a slog, but you need all the stuff in the Old Testament to make sense of the New Testament
>>25189525That's why I tell most people to read it but don't worry about memorizing anything as a third of those laws aren't even relevant to Jews anymore, and even more aren't relevant to Christians.
All parts of OT worth preserving could fit in 100 or 200 pages or so.First page of Genesis.Moses Bush and Platonic Cave ascent on mountain, bronze serpent.Skip to David and his Psalms.Song of Songs, Ecclesiastes + other Wisdom Books.Maybe Isaiah for the spice then Micah for obvious Apokatastasis.For the rest Marcion was right.
>>25188507to be fair, I like 1 samuel through 2 chroniclesbut yeah "favorite book" feels really larpy
basically, I'm going out to a family thing and I wanna read a book with animals in it to pass the time, so, any suggestions would be nicepreferably something I can easily just find online and read on my phone
>>25189957There's like 30 redwall books, just read the sequels.
>>25189957warrior cats seriesand that one with the owls.
>>25189957There are like 20 redwall books, just reread them. Game of Thrones is just a cheap imitation, don't start them.
watership down
Book of the Dun Cow is great and rarely talked about. Plague Dogs too.
What is the proper way to read a play?
Left to right, up to down
>>25189915Plays were meant to be viewed, not read, so watch the movies instead.
What does /lit/ think of this series? As a retard who hadn't read a book since high school, I thought it was nothing short of incredible.
>>25189926Right, the Mohaine desert is like the tip of the tip of the tip of the iceberg. Took me a while to get through Wizard and Glass, as well as Wolves of the Calla. Disliked certain parts of Song of Susannah and The Dark Tower but overall thoroughly enjoyed them, nearly as much as The Drawing of the Three and The Waste Lands. Thought the movie could not have been more far removed from the books. The tower is barely mentioned, Ka is never mentioned even once, no Eddie or Susannah. Its an decent-at-best movie on its own legs, but its gotta be the worst adaptation of anything I've ever seen. I've always kinda pictured Vigo Mortensen as Roland.
>>25189876first 4 books are incredible, after that he can't sustain the elan vital, should have wrapped it up book 5.
>>25189965I agree and disagree. I think books 2-4 are god-tier, but I actually really loved 6 and 7. Book 5 was cool but had some manor pacing issues for me
I can never figure out to rank this series, it's just too all over the place
>>25189876It's a bad end to a multi-route mystery visual novel, if you're familiar with the term.
>name is literally GOATWas he not the greatest of all time?
>>25189658Hey now, his opinion is retarded but Melville is brilliant; shut your mouth.
>>25189079English from German is always better in translation than it ever was in German anyway.If it's translated to Swedish that's even more beautiful. (As is English into Swedish.)
>>25189024yeah he be da goat n shiet nigga got those bars in dem books like that one about the sorrows of a yung nigga nietzsche vibed with this nigga he was a real g dont mess with my fucking goat yall bitch ass niggas
>>25189857This manner of conduct ill beseems you, anon.
>>25189862shut up nigga
I just ordered my first book & read ever. The divine Comedy
>>25189941I hope you enjoy it, anon. It's a beautiful poem, but also a difficult one. Even if you end up dropping it, I hope you come back to it in a decade or two.t. loved Purgatorio, but was filtered by Paradiso and I plan to come back to it eventually
>>25189941I have it on my reading list for a long time. i hope you make a post on the book telling us your thoughts some day
This week we're going to talk about a very simple idea that's going to get you from someone who's really confused by complex paragraphs or complex books, especially nonfiction books that you're struggling to understand. And the automatic conclusion that we all have is basically I am stupid. I can't understand books because if you know, if this book is understandable, I speak English, I read English, why can't I understand any of it?And if you want to take anything away from today's post, it's simply this. This problem right here, this reading problem is not an intelligence problem. It is merely a skill problem that you've inherited from the shitty English education system or from the education system that really never bothered to teach you what it takes to read well or to teach you how to get the message out of a pretty complicated paragraph.So, as your substitute English teacher today, we're going to cover two exercises or two aspects of reading that anyone can work on. It takes a bit of time, takes a bit of getting used to, but once you get into the habit of doing these two exercises when you read after a few months, your ability to tackle difficult material will skyrocket. And you will be able to tackle whatever material that you want to tackle. And this, especially in the age of AI, this is a superpower. The power to explore whatever subject that you want to explore without language, without letting language get in the way. I think this is a worthy skill to pursue.So, these two aspects of reading that underpin most of how we consume information or how we even register information are comprehension and coherence. To put it simply, comprehension's all about understanding what the words are about on a page. For example, when you study a new field like history, words like sovereignty, words like colonialism, words like multiculturalism, these words won't automatically make sense to you if you don't know what the word is pointing to.So, in case you encounter a paragraph that's really dense and difficult, the first pass that you have to do is to slow down. And slowing down is not an act of, you know, declaring defeat. You know, I think I'm too dumb to understand this. Why can't I just understand it straight away? But slowing down to gather the definitions of words you don't understand, concepts that are not quite clear to you yet. This should be seen as an investment because as you define one word, and if you if you see the same word again two pages later, in most cases you don't have to look that up again.
View building comprehension as you investing different things into a bank of words or a bank of ideas. And over time, this bank of ideas is going to start to grow. You're going to start to understand everything a little bit better. And when you move on to another book that contain these words and ideas, you'll be able to read a lot faster. This grows at an exponential scale, not that reading fast is the point of of today's post. But over time, you start to see that that even understanding one key idea will unlock a whole sphere of different readings for you.And over time, yes, you'll get to a point where you can recognize most of the words on a page. You know the definition of most of these words, and reading reading becomes really enjoyable from that point onward.And the second aspect of reading that throws a lot of people for a loop is coherence. In short, if comprehension wants you to understand the individual building blocks of a paragraph or of an idea or of an argument, coherence wants you to trace how this idea moves or how this argument moves.And one of the quickest ways to do this is to spot the connectives. In grammar, there's a group of words called conjunctions that also come with uh subsections like coordinating conjunctions and subordinating conjunctions. But nevertheless, the main function of a conjunction is to join different sentences together or to join sentences together without using full stops because if we use full stops all the time, all the sentences would sound pretty clunky. And on the other hand, these conjunctions also provide logical relations between different ideas. Hence, if you want to grasp how an argument or how an idea is flowing on a page, the quickest way to do that is to spot these connecting words. To let these connecting words tell you how the idea is moving on a page.Some common connectives or conjunctions include and, which shows sequence, because shows relation, however shows an exception, therefore shows an explanation. Different connective words, they serve these very distinct functions. So, as you go through a difficult section of a text that you don't really understand, these words are your keys to understand how the idea is moving on a page.And when combined with comprehension, if you already know what the definitions of these words mean, that's what creates a powerful reading experience when you're able to tell what the ideas first of all mean and being able to trace how these ideas are moving on a page. And this is essentially the two main mechanisms of reading. Like I said before, every one of your reading problems probably come down to one of these two factors.
So, as a series of practical exercises, this week after you've finished today's post, make sure to return to a difficult book and pick out a difficult paragraph that you're having some trouble understanding. And exercise number one to build comprehension, I want you to take a difficult paragraph from one of these books that you're currently reading >> [snorts] >> and circle every unfamiliar word out there.I know some people out there are going to say, you know, if I do this for every paragraph, I'll never finish the book. Well, the beauty here is if you simply do this exercise on one paragraph, you probably don't need to do this again for a few paragraphs that follows that paragraph. Again, learning new definitions and learning comprehension or gathering a bank of ideas and words, this is an investment that's really going to expand what you can read and what you can comprehend in the long run.So, circle and define every unfamiliar word on a page. Look them up. You only need a brief definition, and then reread the paragraph to see if things start to make a little more sense.And once you get into the habit of collection and definition to expand your comprehension, let's move on to exercise number two. And this is when you have to go back to that paragraph. And then now, instead of circling unfamiliar words, I want you to circle the connective words that glue the entire paragraph together.Do you see an and? And is the author showing a sequence of arguments? Do you see therefore? Is the author introducing a conclusion after providing a lot of evidence? Do you see however? Is an exception being introduced after however?Remember, connecting words, aka conjunctions, they are the linchpins that hold an idea together. Without them, the whole text would fall apart. It wouldn't make any logical sense. So, if you can go in there and to retrace the shape of the paragraph, they'll make your reading experience a lot less taxing because now at least you have a general overview of the flow of the paragraphs.And just like comprehension, the more of these connectives you collect, the more you build up a backlog of how these words are functioning in a text. And over time, you probably don't need to look this up every time you read a book. But for the first couple of books, if you read through them with these two exercises, over time, you're going to wake up one day and a book that was very difficult to you will start to appear like, you know, it's it's really all right to read. I can understand everything now.
So, in conclusion, difficult writing becomes easy once we see that there are these mechanisms holding them together, at least in the case of nonfiction. And if you can learn to see that, in fact, wrestling with every difficult book out there or every difficult book that you wrestle with, they will all expand your comprehension or expand your ability to read permanently.So, that over time this becomes a life skill. This becomes a formidable force in your life where you're able to explore different weird interests that you have, not through second-hand opinions on the internet, but first-hand through accessing a piece of text without bias.And over time, as you practice some of the ideas in these posts and as you practice some of the techniques and exercises that I give you every single week, you're going to start to see that this really is a superpower. And I'm very excited to share more perspectives and ideas around this topic of learning how to read and write. Or in other words, teaching you all the stuff that you should have learned in your English classes.Nevertheless, that's all I have for this week's post, and I'll be back here next week with more. Take care and goodbye.
did you read a logic book lately or did i witness an independent derivation in real time? either way good explication
Will literature ever regain cultural prominence?
>>25189100>he's not the richest or the most famousshouldn't it be "he's not the richest nor the most famous"?
Of course old-school books/authors are not as influential as they were but the creative force is still vital; it just finds its way into other forms (products).Regardless of the modern entertainment, it's genesis is still someone and their ideas (and a desire to express them).I see writing as vital because it is the least meditated of the art forms. Consider all the efforts made, the number of people involved, in adapting an author's work into a film/tv show. So many egos, opinions, constraints and obstacles exist that the writer avoids, snug in his garret, living in their imagination.Consider the struggle for authors to get published in the past, if their themes were heterodox to their culture, race, politics. Many were prosecuted and exiled in a manner that few of us could contextualize or really understand (off the top of my head, see Solzhenitzen).If you have an idea and some ambition, you have a million ways to make that a reality that people in past did not have.When an author achieves mass popularity, they can also become a character/public persona (or even caricature). Nowadays, someone becomes notorious first, or gets some niche attention, then leverages it to get published. Many of the agents I've listened to have made this point.I guess the point is that the forms that lit will take in the future are hard to predict, but that spark will remain.Hit me with your best cynicism and I'll try to defend my dung heap.
>>25189705"Nor" is typically used with "neither."
How do I get started with Franzen?
>>25189923the word typically is doing a lot of heavy lifting for your so-called argument
>have to re-read a paragraph because my mind drifted to boobs and pusy again
>>25189406Libido out, then what other pleasure? Hunger as well? Taking a nice shit also? Everything we do is so we can maximize our pleasure and minimize our misery at the end of the day. We work, we read, we want to become more intellectual partly because of pussy.
>>25187153Your wife's boobs and pussy are that distracting? Lucky man.
Then you simply don't enjoy reading. It's a cult for you. Find other hobby
>>25189406Or..you can just discipline yourself.
>>25187142if you have any interest at all in the book you are reading, your attention likely snaps when you are challenged by a phrase or word you do not immediately understand - and i mean this word literally, not in any abstract or "higher enlightenment" sense. you were likely very poorly educated, there is so much you do not know, and the real problem is your mind is used to wandering when faced with any challenge whatsoever.my suggestion: read with a pencil and/or notebook. immediately write when you notice you have stopped paying attention, either with your thoughts, or your best attempt to understand what the impediment was. keep a wiktionary or wikipedia tab open, or better, use physical reference material to keep from being distracted by the internet. and, obviously, stop watching so much porn.you are an idiot, i am very sorry to tell you. we all are. you have to educate yourself. it will take years, and most of the time you will just be frustrated. but it can be done. you do not have to be convinced it is worth doing, since you are already doing it yourself, which is perhaps your strongest asset.>>25189954we ought to read for more than mere enjoyment!
"Sadly, Porn" by The Last Psychiatrist, what do you think of this, is it worth reading?
>>25189863Used to be more common than you'd think
>>25189875wait is it an essay? i thought it was a novel
>>25189881its for people who read too much, externalizing their desires and ideas of their accomplishment and loss to other people and things
>>25189578>>25189866This guy has never interested me.
>>25189894joyce and bely already addressed this, read more
Bakker being deep editionHere we discuss any kind of science fiction and fantasy.>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
>>25189709You must know, all that pointless exposition will be skipped entirely. Maybe that will make it entertaining.
>>25188718>filteredYes. Shitty writing and poor characterization filters me.
>>25189647AppleTV seems to give respectable budgets. Still, I can't see anyway they could do a live action Stormlight well. The scale is too large and there is just far too many fantasy elements.
>>25189287Sounds like the game is missing an arab orgy expansion.
>>25186986The Wolf's Call in nuthshell.
>>25188863"Jewry cannot create a new world; it can only draw the world’s new-made creations and relationships into the sphere of its industriousness, because practical need, whose motivation is private interest, acts passively and never initiates growth, only feeds on the growth of society.""Jewish Jesuitism—that practical Jesuitism which in the Talmud, as Bauer shows, deals with the clever circumvention by the world of private interest of the laws that rule it—is the chief art of that world.""What is stated as theory in Jewish religion, namely, contempt for theory, art, history and man as an end in himself, is an actual and conscious point of view, held to be virtuous by the man of money. Even the relations between the sexes, between man and woman, become an object of commerce. The woman is auctioned off.""The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the true nationality of the merchant, of the man of money.""The law of the Jew, lacking all solid foundation, is only a religious caricature of morality and of law in general, but it provides the formal rites in which the world of property clothes its transactions.">The view of nature gained under the dominion of money and private property is a genuine contempt, a materialistic degradation of nature, such as exist in Jewish religion, if only in fancy.>It is in this sense that Thomas Münzer complains that “all creatures have become property, the fish in the water, the birds in the air, the plants on the ground—the creatures, too, must become free.”Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>the JQ will be solved if we give everyone free shit
>>25188899Wrong thread
>>25188899The ruling class are the ones getting gibs without doing any work, it's just a matter of cutting parasitic jews out of the equation
>EditedWhat gal
