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Doomers win
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>>25189450
The idea that we can't grow without starving was sold by the Bilderberg elites. The economic conditions of modern capitalism was designed by these same elites. The "doomer" generations of teenagers arose from these conditions and they were sold this doomer literature and lots of drugs.

The Epstein class have been found out, more than ever, and they're unleashing the Zionist plans which will destroy the fragile interdependence of international shipping and cause a lot of shortages and they hope starvation.
Do you seriously want them to win? These child raping cannibals should be killed.

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Reality check
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Redditality check*
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>>25189842
go back chud
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>>25189839
Disagree. History and (philosophy as well) is 50% material conditions and 50% lived experience..anything else is just cope.
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>>25189839
>diffident
retard
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>>25189842
fpbp retard op k.o. kwab

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Fiction or non fiction.

t.33 year old NEET.
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>>25187684
>Most of ancient greeks were neets. Some of them went to war once but that's it. Their economical system was slaverism, so they had slaves do everything for them while they dedicated themselfs to the arts.
Why can't I just have a guy working for me so I don't have to die in a ditch or kill myself from poverty?
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>>25183046
She kinda looks like that other anime girl who gets spammed everywhere. Lain is it? Sorry, I don’t really know about anime.
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>>25183454
This. Read Oblomov OP.
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>>25189664
Aristotle explained this. Not citing directly:
>uf we had machines that worked on their own, the master would not neet a slave
Slavery was banned some years after the industrial revolution, when machines could work on their own by just throwing coal at them.
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>>25183046
This might not be what I remember watching a review of, but is that the novel where the guy is confused about why the girl wants to help him so much, so he asks her about it and she admits she finds him disgusting and that no one would ever like him, and she's basically just fascinated by him?

That was pretty realistic, but the way he just casually finds work after that was funny. IRL, there's a good chance he'd just starve and die. I guess the reality of the lost decade and economic stagnation hadn't yet settled in the author's mind and he thought that work is something you can just get if you want it enough, rather than facing rejection after rejection and just wasting away with no one caring regardless of your efforts.

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the japanese say you have three faces. the first face you show to the world. the second, to friends and family. and the third, to 4chan because it's anonymous.

Thoughts on the usage of online posts within multi-nodal works? Some of my more autistic and orthodox colleagues insist that it's post-modern bullshit but I see no difference between it and regular epistolary novels.
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>>25189645
What does it mean when I show pretty much the same face to everyone?
>>25189652
I know the Greeks and Romans believed that the soul was housed in the stomach.
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>>25189656
>What does it mean when I show pretty much the same face to everyone?

Autism.
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>>25189843
Cope
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>>25189645
if you give a man a mask, he will tell you the truth
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>>25189656
no, anon is right. being able to adjust your personality to the situation is an important human behaviour that requires recognizing and understanding contextual nuance. that you apparently can't do that is a strong indicator of autism.

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This book is reddit. Pure reddit. I spent the entire time reading it repeating the words "This is reddit, this is memes, this is reddit, this is memes..." under my breath.
I fucking hated it. I was writhing around on the floor in front of my sofa for the last 30 pages it was so painful
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>>25187932
Seethe more this book kicks ass
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>>25188420
More like licks ass (as in eats shit)
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>>25188534
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I didn't read the thread, just finished M&D. I liked it, but I think I missed a lot. What should I read next?
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>>25189175
Try AtD.

the hills of norvos edition

ASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page
Blog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/
So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/
Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/
SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdy
General search: http://searcherr.work/
TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chapters

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>>25189786
Fastest wall crash of all time
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Is Asoiaf more detailed and vivid than Akotsk?
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>>25189627
My poor boy Quentyn got roasted
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>>25189816
Have you seen her brother
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>>25189829
He's obviously still alive.

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I shouldn’t have to strain to understand what an author is saying to get little to no pleasure from it. Reading should be fun, which isn’t to say I read only mollycoddling garbage like Lord of the Rings. But my life is too short for Mrs Dalloway or As I Lay Dying.
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>>25188949
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that may be the second worst "criticism" of tolkien i have read
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>>25188947
>>25188949
>>25188954
https://worldwithoutmoneyarg.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/moorcock-1978-epic-pooh-in-arena-2-anarchists-in-fiction-2011.pdf
>Writers like Tolkien take you to the edge of the Abyss and point out the excellent tea-garden at the bottom, showing you the steps carved into the cliff and reminding you to be a bit careful because the hand-rails are a trifle shaky as you go down; they haven’t got the approval yet to put a new one in.
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>>25188697
>Reading Should Be Fun
>posts the most boring space opera ever
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>>25189586
>space opera
You've never read it.

Barring direct Priest-King intervention, is there anything Goreans could do if Jason was transported to their shithole and started rampaging, or will he just become their own version of SCP-682? He destroys any of them one-on-one physical stats-wise, unironically probably has better equipment (which also still fits into the restrictions imposed by the Priest-Kings, explaining why they wouldn't interfere), and whoever gets close to him, which is the only way they have of fighting him, will have a tough time not just surviving but also damaging him more than his regeneration can handle.
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The Spider People could probably seal him up in a web, then have the humans toss him off the side of a ship at sea.
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>>25189676
Pre Part VI, Jason gets ganked. VII and onwards it's Jason all the way.
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>>25189751
Possible, I haven't even though of that.

>>25189760
Seems so, unless they pull off something really unlikely.
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>>25189676
Jason was a massive simp. Figures my best friend likes him.

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Will literature ever regain cultural prominence?
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>>25189371
george lucas didnt make star wars as he proved with his prequels. copyright destroyed writing
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I was watching the show madmen, its set in the early 60s, in one scene the secretaries are passing around a risqué book whose name i dont remember.

My point is none of that shit would happen today

books used to be part of the cultural conversation. even in the 2000s you had harry potter, twilight, 50 shade of grey. Now no one has the attention span to read
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>>25189100
>he's not the richest or the most famous

shouldn't it be "he's not the richest nor the most famous"?
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Of course old-school books/authors are not as influential as they were but the creative force is still vital; it just finds its way into other forms (products).
Regardless of the modern entertainment, it's genesis is still someone and their ideas (and a desire to express them).
I see writing as vital because it is the least meditated of the art forms. Consider all the efforts made, the number of people involved, in adapting an author's work into a film/tv show. So many egos, opinions, constraints and obstacles exist that the writer avoids, snug in his garret, living in their imagination.
Consider the struggle for authors to get published in the past, if their themes were heterodox to their culture, race, politics. Many were prosecuted and exiled in a manner that few of us could contextualize or really understand (off the top of my head, see Solzhenitzen).
If you have an idea and some ambition, you have a million ways to make that a reality that people in past did not have.
When an author achieves mass popularity, they can also become a character/public persona (or even caricature). Nowadays, someone becomes notorious first, or gets some niche attention, then leverages it to get published. Many of the agents I've listened to have made this point.
I guess the point is that the forms that lit will take in the future are hard to predict, but that spark will remain.
Hit me with your best cynicism and I'll try to defend my dung heap.
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>>25189705
"Nor" is typically used with "neither."

What is the proper way to read a play?
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Left to right, up to down

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Saturday Edition

Stubbed >>25180540

>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.

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>>25189855
People are posting stuff that's only 12k words? Geez, it's fascinating seeing just how difficult transferring a web novel to print is. You would need 40 chapters if not more to get anything remotely publishable.
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>>25189782
>Is it worth continuing on?
It wasn't even worth starting
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>>25189879
>People are posting stuff that's only 12k words? Geez, it's fascinating seeing just how difficult transferring a web novel to print is. You would need 40 chapters if not more to get anything remotely publishable.
real sure they meant chapter length of 1,200 to 1,500 words. Personally in a traditional papernack format, I enjoy a healthy mix of chapter lengths with the course of say a 80k to 100k typical paperback. A 1,00 word chapter in the right place, but 5k and 10k is fine for others. And a big action chapter that could go more but was all culminating excitement you've been anticipating the climax being even bigger, sure that's fine. I think it adds to the paperback. I'm not sure that enjoyable paperback would be as good when microserialized down to have all those tiny chapters to farm views and numbers.
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>>25189916
>A 1,00 word chapter in the right place
I meant 1,000
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>>25189918
>100 word chapter is due tomorrow
i can't do it bros...

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We should be more like the Japanese
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I'm the only one here who lives in Japan permanently and basically I have nothing but contempt for all of you no matter on which side of the issue you lay.
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>>25173586
yes, pornwise
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>>25189170
are you le ebin samurai with a harem of asian women yet, Billy?
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>>25189170
Sounds miserable, your attitude seems to imply as much too. Us gaijins are unwelcome after all.
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>>25180469
>conflates Americans with Jews
Yep, its a chudpost.

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What are some good tasteful erotic scenes in serious literature /lit/?
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literally any random page from gravity's rainbow
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>>25188649
Women like to stretch it and get fucked in it though, so maybe it's good?
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>He whisked off her shoes and panties in one movement, wild like an enraged shark. His bulky totem beating a seductive rhythm. Mary's body felt like it was burning, even though the room was properly air-conditioned. They tried all the positions - on top, doggy, and normal.

Exhausted they collapsed onto the recently extended sofa-bed. Then a hell beast ate them.
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>Such a slender child: her throat swallowing, strummed to a moan as he grabs her hair, twists it... she has him all figured out. Knows exactly when to take her mouth away and stand up, high-heeled Parisian slippers planted to either side of him, swaying, hair softly waving forward to frame her face, repeated by the corset darkly framing her pubic mound and belly. Raising bare arms, little Bianca lifts her long hair, tosses her little head to let the mane shiver down her back, needle-tipped fingers drifting then down slowly, making him wait, down over the satin, all the shiny hooks and laces, to her thighs. Then her face, round with baby-fat, enormous night-shadowed eyes comes swooping in as she kneels, guides his penis into her and settles slow, excruciating till he fills her, stuffs her full...
>Now something, oh, kind of funny happens here. Not that Slothrop is really aware of it now, while it’s going on—but later on, it will occur to him that he was—this may sound odd, but he was somehow, actually, well, inside his own cock. If you can imagine such a thing. Yes, inside the metropolitan organ entirely, all other colonial tissue forgotten and left to fend for itself, his arms and legs it seems woven among vessels and ducts, his sperm roaring louder and louder, getting ready to erupt, somewhere below his feet... maroon and evening cuntlight reaches him in a single ray through the opening at the top, refracted through the clear juices flowing up around him. He is enclosed. Everything is about to come, come incredibly, and he’s helpless here in this exploding emprise... red flesh echoing... an extraordinary sense of waiting to rise...
>She posts, his pretty horsewoman, face to the overhead, quivering up and down, thightop muscles strung hard as cable, baby breasts working out the top of her garment... Slothrop pulls Bianca to him by her nipples and bites each one very hard. Sliding her arms around his neck, hugging him, she starts to come, and so does he, their own flood taking him up then out of his expectancy, out the eye at tower’s summit and into her with a singular detonation of touch. Announcing the void, what could it be but the kingly voice of the Aggregat itself?

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Where do you usually get free e-books for your Kindle?
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>>25187793
People think bib is frozen in time since the-eye. You can get anything at Anna's archive or irc or any library overdrive anywhere. With a request worth enough people will straight up purchase a book to upload. I got several in Swedish from bib because people there are desperate for upload.
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>>25188626
Yeah. It's frustrating how many older books are either PDF-only or the only epub copy has really bad OCR errors.

I've tried to tinker with the advanced conversion options before and have had some success, but the spacing is never right.
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>>25188661
Or the ebook is 50 bucks and the pdf is the only pirate available. I'll pay that for a hardcover, or something I can see myself returning to often like reference material. Not something I'm reading once out of curiousity.

Maybe when we get flashable ereaders - 500 flexible eink pages that you turn like normal paper and reflash into another book when done. The young lady's illustrated primer, or more specifically the drunken neanderthal ancestor.
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>>25187780
I've done it manually several times before discovering the "send to amazon" feature.
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>>25186485
Drop your manga that you got from nyaa.si into KCC for epub conversion. Set custom resolution to match your e-ink screen and select manga mode. Or download something like Tachiyomi on your reader.

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>t. Midwit
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>>25188334
history is not an area in which i would feel comfortable giving recommendations
id suggest looking through some university curriculums and working through the mentioned works (which will also mention other works)
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>>25183386
filtered
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Intellectually stimulating myself by reading a book about 2 guys puking and shitting on each other
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>>25189852
2 guys, 1 book?
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>>25187570
How is it pretentious?


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