Tropical Beach EditionFAQ:>What is worldbuilding?Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"Yes, of course you can!>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.Old Thread: >>24667235
>>24820210That's more a function of an oligarchy. Maybe that kinda of action would lend you some possibilities in becoming a noble but I would assume that the reigning monarch would be the only one able to fully grant a Noble title.
>>24780795Selkies are mythological creatures that can shapeshift between human and seal but taking off/on their seal skini am currently in the early stages of a story of a selkie getting her seal skin stolen by a man that tricked her
Very unfinished central myth, covering the creation/chaoskampf. Brownie points for whomever can ID the real world stuff I ripped offI want to make a religion where basically the monad gets incarnated into being the most supreme god without it being too similar to christianity. More of a Mithras vibe but popular
>>24822015That the ruins and civilization was once inhabited. People actually lived and worked there. This is often missing from stories where people find old ruins or civilizations. The majority of spaces typically exist for human comfort. Imagine if you found the ruins of a modern day school. Almost all the space is to basically just "house" the students (in classrooms). It's not "full of hidden knowledge", just lots of rooms with rotten and rusted remnants of chairs and tables. Library archives would probably be the only true "repositories of knowledge". Even a regular library is half empty space for visitors to read. But that's mainly talking realism. Lost ruins do have tropes that people expect, usually in the form of loot or knowledge. So you probably want to have something like that for the characters to find.
>>24822015Speaking of which...How do you create a world that instills a sense of ADVENTURE?
Are there any instances of an audiobook being a better experience than reading the actual book?
>>24823377Darth Plagueis by James Luceno. The performance is pure kino and the sound effects are subtle but SOVLful, I heartily recommend it.
When the author reads it himself. I liked listening to The Stranger read by Camus.
>>24823377I think first-person present tense narratives work really well for audiobooks. Really makes you feel like you are there with the character, listening to his thoughts.
>>24823377World War Z
>>24823377Stephen King because his books are bloated yet also easy to follow.Sherlock Holmes because of Stephen Fry's voice acting skills.Generally genre fiction, first person narrations, erotica read by sexy women (duh), and audioplays.
Enough about the fucking eagles. Why didn't Glorfindel, aka the dude who one v oned a fucking balrog and won, go with the fellowship? he was in Rivendell
Something something it wasn't his fight and he couldn't have 1-v1'd sauron anyway, so it didn't matter
>>24823265you see anon by the third age the time if elves was over. the age if the orc cometh.narrated Mauhur captain of Mordor:said Shagrat:'o snaga, o servant of sauron, there is a calaquendi behind me, kill him!'this was not the first time glorfindel had been sent back to middle earth, if you read letter 67 by tolkien (the one to his gay lover) youd know that glorfindel had successfully infiltrated outer heaven and zanzibar land, but he had learned the hard way one does not simply walk into mordor. you see,>glorfindel was an elven-lord>from whose hips swung the heaviest swordwhy do you think the men of rohan are fair-haired after all? you want to send this nigga to mordor? the orcs would see the light of the trees in his eyes from a league away. personally, i have to wonder WHY they sent glorfindel out of aman? they arent sending their best from the west that is forgotten. kinslayers, exiles, failures. and some, i assume, are good people.i am not saying 3A glorfindel is the fair form of sauron but he did only appear suspiciously close to the death of "sauron". In fact its likely that "sauron", ie annatar, is the 'real' glorfindel, and the 'fake' glorfindel in the movie is 'sauron', who like annatar (glorfindel) claims to have been an emissary of the valar.elrond knows this, and thats why they make a big show of not vesting the ring with "glorfindel" (sauron) and instead giving it to the hobbits (hobbits) who then carry it to mordor to defeat sauron (glorfindel).
>>24823265didn't you also post this in /tv/?
>>24823653yeah, and /his/ and /v/. the /v/ one's the funniest
>>24823265iirc the reasoning was that Glorfindel fucking off on a journey for seemingly no reason is a big beacon over the Fellowships head to say 'One Ring here'. Gandalf gets the excuse that he's always moving somewhere. So despite his overwhelming power and skill it would completely ruin any pretense of secrecy the moment they see Glorfindel fucking around with Gandalf and friends.
Comfy Halloween short fiction?
>>24823246>V/H/S They all suck
>>24823311Disagree. Siren is a classic
>>24823246>>24823311>>24823341For me it's Viral.
>>24820573Shadow Out of TimeShadow Over InnsmouthColour Out of Space
>>24815647Hellbound Heart is a short read and pretty good.
where can i find my Sofya Semyonovna bros?
Trannies?
>>24823440In the streets, taking it up the ass for $20. Enjoy your born again tradwife, anon!
What do you think is harder to publish? Fiction or non-fiction? Has anyone got experience publishing either? I personally have several stories out, but want to write a history book someday. Does anyone know if it is hard to sell history books to publishers or agents?
>want to pick up a copy of ol ozzy's decline of the west>every copy on amazon is just a weird reprint of a photocopy with people saying it's low quality, a print on demand garbage book, or a $300 used hardcoverIt's like this with half the books I want to read, is this just an amazon sorting issue or are older public domain books just impossible to get good copies of? It's the same with trying to find good editions of wodehouse.
>>24821816gaze ye upon the fruits!
>>24821816And? Them ruling the world doesn't make them good at history.>>24822605They have their good things. It's just that they have some inborn tendencies that don't allow for very good philosophy of history. Every people has its limits.While I'm neither, German and English intelects have been at odds for a long time. at least since the 19th century.
>>24820603very cool!will check out the debate, ty knower anon
>>24823477It was never written down iirc.
>>24821816Indians rules over anglos
>thusly
>>24822551>>24822564>>24823413While these are bad, minus gauge (?) incredible has become a stand in for no less than 3 commonly used words. Good, non credible, and very. >This pizza was incredible. >He wrote an essay linking All Saints Day to the rise of Macy's department story, but when we looked into the sources, they were incredible>After hearing her speak, I wanted to smack her incredibly hard. It's the classic problem of wanting to use a 5 dollar word when a 50 cent one does just fine, only the word isn't worth 5 dollars
>>24822463'Very' is the most overused and useless word.
>Anon says yolk instead of yoke
>>24823541Pleb take. Your 7th grade teachers don't want you to use very because it'll end up in every sentence as a kid wants to hyperbolize, but at least very is plain with a defined purpose.
>>24823571It's rarely useful and hardly modifies anything. >She is angryvs>She is very angryDoesnt change anything, she is still angry, and her being 'very angry' is subjective. In such a simple use case, it is useless.
give me your best books on this part of the world
>>24809955The commies had some based things during the cold war, sad that they're all dead now
>>24809968>there was another side to The Mountain Wreath far more sinister than its praise of tyrannicide. With its call for the extermination of those Montenegrins who had converted to Islam, the poem was also a paean to ethnic cleansingBased>>24809985>Serbia is the only Ex-Yugo country wich never left the Union to become an ethnostate. They were the only ones who wanted to keep the multicultural communist government.Gay
>>24821143Of course there were because most Croatian soldiers who were fighting within Croatia itself were just defending their homeland. I don't understand this Serb propaganda where they pretend that Croats were just as equally depraved and nationalistic as them when they were literally the ones attacking THEIR country. I understand that there was shit that Croatia was doing in Bosnia but I don't understand where this view that Croatians were equally bad as Serbs come from when they were the ones protecting their lands from getting bombed and taken over. Not to mention there were also Serbs who fought on the side of Croatia as well because they saw what was really going on.
An Undiplomatic Diary is one of the most unintentionally funny historical books I've ever read. It includes several balkan nations.
>>24821655see Russian aggression on Ukraine.
When thinking about the story I wrote (which I finished in 2018), I have a much clearer and more detailed memory of the major characters than the minor ones. I remember the main characters as though I finished the story just yesterday, but my memory is a lot blurrier for, say, characters that only show up in one scene and have just one or two lines of dialogue. What does this mean?
>>24821923Bump
New knausgaard essay just dropped>https://archive.is/D8nUq>What are we living for?“The Brothers Karamazov” seeks the answer in the little life, among the small people, in the frail, the fragile, the fallible, the failed. If, contrary to the nature of the book, I were to attempt to sum up in one sentence what it is about, it would have to be a quote from a conversation between Ivan and Alyosha: “Love life more than its meaning.”I write this in the certainty that this interpretation, too, will dissolve as soon as you open the book and begin to read it anew. This is what makes “The Brothers Karamazov” a great novel. It is never at rest.
>>24822847Yes but that's what the publishers and agents make you do and in the end it is fir the best.
>>24822364>https://archive.is/D8nUq>ctrl f>bbc>0 results
> This is drawn from the introduction to a new edition of “The Brothers Karamazov.”Christ. How many “definitive” translations do we need? How many times do I have to read the same fucking book with slightly different words that I can’t even tell a real difference between
>>24823121This is what he meant by never being at rest
>>24822425Wow, anon! You're so cool and smart! Please, continue...
Did anyone ever refute Feser's book defending the death penalty from the perspective of Catholicism and the natural law? The statements of the recent Popes were refuted so soundly that it's almost concerning that the Vatican hasn't even tried to address this critiqueAlso, general Catholic /lit/ discussion ITT
>>24820575Yeah I think we are generally on a decentralization thing historically in general. I think the sort of mass organized thing is predicated basically on the culture shaped by printing technology and sort of the initial destruction done by electric communication/the telegram. I think we are past that though and that attitude has basically destroyed the functional part of society (again you basically just need normal families/workers tied to the land as a basic unit of political organization) the Church has just reflected that. Unfortunately I don't see it going smoothy I see the west largely descending into my tribal/ethnic warfare and conflict with all the people we've imported. I don't know exactly how it will go but that does seem inevitable now.For the Church just returning the emphasis to actual bishops instead of the giant beuarcratic structures makes sense I don't really know if anything actually to be done outside of that as I said the main problem is just the underlying social disorder. Vatican 2 arguably actually helped open up more of that flexibility however actual medieval catholicism would still be extremely alienating to basically everyone alive now in just how varied it was. Folk saints, folk practices, astrology, all the "icky" stuff will likely return that used to be acceptable. These are just products of actual cultures before they were intentionally destroyed as are part of the scientific/technological domination of reality. Which again the Church did participate in and did nothing to really stand against, but was not a primary cause.
>>24813651Christ overruled the old testament with his new covenant, love thy enemy his message. I don’t even know this writer and I’m confident he’s some tradlarper rightist orc
>>24820966>Unfortunately I don't see it going smoothy I see the west largely descending into my tribal/ethnic warfare and conflict with all the people we've imported. I don't know exactly how it will go but that does seem inevitable now.I think we'll win. We're not strangers to conflict over our long history. We've defeated pagans, heathens, and heretics before, in peace and in war. We will again. And we'll do it regardless what the current occupants of Vatican City think.
>>24822885you're brown
>>24823610Not OP but seriously what’s wrong with being brown. I don’t understand why people use it as an insult.
>realize that external circumstances and events only generate negative feelings in us depending on the narrative we tell ourselves surrounding those events>i.e if someone is verbally abusing you, insulting you, bullying you talking shit, why would this bother you? >if the above bothered you, it means your contentment hinges on the behaviour of others, which is flawed, that means you're not truly content from within; you're giving the external world too much power over your emotional state, why be so malleable?>why internalize such negativity? not only that, its often that those who say such negative stuff often have been beat down themselves, why make it your problem?>you're going to be a slave to your negativity bias? your biology? ever notice people tend to ruminate on the bad but not on the good people and fortunate things that happened to them?I choose not to be a slave.
>>24823511haha OP I love froggo XD
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ITT: Times you acted like Kerouac
I did heroin this morning.
I built a van out myself and took it to this coke head I used to date in Florida, potentially had something slipped in my drink and had a mental breakdown that led to me hiding in bushes for the night because I thought They were after me
>>24823094I smoked DMT while getting a blowjob from a Mexican cotton picker with her illegitimate son in the backseat in a high speed chase from the cops on a narrow two lane highway in upstate West Virginia. It had been 3 weeks since I'd been back home to my apartment on the upper west side of NYC and my heroin supplies were running low and I had drove out to see my ol' buddy Diamond Dave out in Richmond.
>>24823094Hitchhiked to a rainbow gathering at age 15, fell in love with a girl from NYC who gave me her landline number, her family moved apartments and I never heard from her again.
I fell in love with Emily Hale in 1912, when I was in the Harvard Graduate School. Before I left for Germany and England in 1914, I told her that I was in love with her. I have no reason to believe, from the way in which this declaration was received, that my feelings were returned in any degree whatever. We exchanged a few letters, on a purely friendly basis, while I was up at Oxford during 1914–15.To explain my sudden marriage to Vivienne Haigh-Wood would require a good many words, and yet the explanation would probably remain unintelligible. I was still, as I came to believe a year later, in love with Miss Hale. I cannot, however, make even that assertion with any confidence: it may have been merely my reaction against my misery with Vivienne and desire to revert to an earlier situation. I was very immature for my age, very timid, very inexperienced. And I had a gnawing doubt, which I could not altogether conceal from myself, about my choice of a profession — that of a university teacher of philosophy. I had had three years in the Harvard Graduate School, at my father's expense, preparing to take my Doctorate in Philosophy, after which I should have found a post somewhere in a college or university. Yet my heart was not in this study, nor had I any confidence in my ability to distinguish myself in this profession. I must still have yearned to write poetry. For three years I had written only one fragment, which was bad (it is, alas, preserved at Harvard). Then in 1914, Conrad Aiken showed Prufrock to Ezra Pound. My meeting with Pound changed my life. He was enthusiastic about my poems, and gave me such praise and encouragement as I had long since ceased to hope for. I was happier in England, even in wartime, than I had been in America. Pound urged me to stay in England and encouraged me to write verse again.I think that all I wanted of Vivienne was a flirtation or a mild affair; I was too shy and unpractised to achieve either with anybody. I believe that I came to persuade myself that I was in love with her simply because I wanted to burn my boats and commit myself to staying in England. And she persuaded herself (also under the influence of Pound) that she would save the poet by keeping him in England. To her, the marriage brought no happiness; the last seven years of her life were spent in a mental home. To me, it brought the state of mind out of which came The Waste Land. And it saved me from marrying Emily Hale.Emily Hale would have killed the poet in me; Vivienne nearly was the death of me, but she kept the poet alive. In retrospect, the nightmare agony of my seventeen years with Vivienne seems to me preferable to the dull misery of the mediocre teacher of philosophy which would have been the alternative.
For years I was a divided man (just as, in a different way, I had been a divided man in the years 1911–1915). In 1932 I was appointed Charles Eliot Norton Professor of Poetry at Harvard for one year; and even Vivienne's mother agreed that it was out of the question for Vivienne to go to America with me. I saw Emily Hale in California (where she was teaching in a girls' college) early in 1933, and I saw her from time to time every summer, I think from 1934 on, as she always joined her aunt and uncle who took a house every summer at Chipping Campden.Upon the death of Vivienne in the winter of 1947, I suddenly realised that I was not in love with Emily Hale. Gradually I came to see that I had been in love only with a memory, with the memory of the experience of having been in love with her in my youth. Had I met any woman I could have fallen in love with during the years when Vivienne and I were together, this would no doubt have become evident to me. From 1947 on, I realised more and more how little Emily Hale and I had in common. I had already observed that she was not a lover of poetry, certainly that she was not much interested in my poetry; I had already been worried by what seemed to me evidence of insensitiveness and bad taste. It may be too harsh to think that what she liked was my reputation rather than my work. She may have loved me according to her capacity for love; yet I think that her uncle's opinions (her uncle by marriage, a dear old man, but woolly-minded) meant more to her than mine. (She was fond of her uncle John but did not get on very well with her Aunt Edith). I could never make her understand that it was improper for her, a Unitarian, to communicate in an Anglican church: the fact that it shocked me that she should do so made no impression upon her. I cannot help thinking that if she had truly loved me she would have respected my feelings, if not my theology. She adopted a similar attitude with regard to the Christian and Catholic view of divorce.I might mention at this point that I never at any time had any sexual relations with Emily Hale.
So long as Vivienne was alive I was able to deceive myself. To face the truth fully about my feelings towards Emily Hale after Vivienne's death was a shock from which I recovered only slowly. But I came to see that my love for Emily was the love of a ghost for a ghost, and that the letters I had been writing to her were the letters of an hallucinated man, a man vainly trying to pretend to himself that he was the same man that he had been in 1914.It would have been a still greater mistake to have married Emily than it was to marry Vivienne Haigh-Wood. I can imagine the sort of man each should have married — different from each other, but also very different from me. It is only within the last few years that I have known what it was to love a woman who truly, selflessly, and whole-heartedly loves me. I find it hard to believe that the equal of Valerie ever has been or will be again; I cannot believe that there has ever been a woman with whom I could have felt so completely at one as with Valerie. The world with my beloved wife Valerie has been a good world such as I have never known before. At the age of 68, the world was transformed for me, and I was transformed by Valerie.May we all rest in peace.T. S. Eliot
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>>24823585>I fell in love with Emily Hale in 1912, when I was in the Harvard Graduate School. Before I left for Germany and England in 1914, I told her that I was in love with her. I have no reason to believe, from the way in which this declaration was received, that my feelings were returned in any degree whatever. We exchanged a few letters, on a purely friendly basis, while I was up at Oxford during 1914–15.TFW you will never be a Harvard Grad in love with Emily Hale in 1912 about to sail to Europe to be up at Oxford and all explaining of a marriage to Viviennne Haigh-Wood will remain Unintelligible.Nostalgic feeling suit poetry bros with a soul of a deep pond only found in a romantic painting, your response?
