Monsters, Dragons, Beasts, Creatures, Horrors, and Miscellaneous Lifeforms Edition Version 2: Magical and/or Alien BoogalooFAQ:>What is worldbuilding?Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"Yes, of course you can!>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I need names for two fantasy nations based on Belgium and the Netherlands … where do I even start
I’ve started a new world building project focused on a place of learning, think the citadel from asoiaf. I want the main bulk of it to be in universe texts written in some of my conlangs that further explain the world. I started learning calligraphy with a dip and made an Arabicish script for one of them and got some aged looking paper and I hope to bind in universe books. I’m starting with a book of creation myths that the various cultures have. The pic is of the current version of the script.
>>25183713You should make a naming language conlang. Figure out the sounds that make dutch sound Dutch and French sound French. Pick a structure for the syllables then just make them up. Using this isn’t as complex as a full conlang but will allow the names of people and places in your world to be coherent and sound like they belong together. I recommend the zompist how to conlang web page but do just enough to make words. You don’t need to do any grammar or syntax work. You can also just search “naming language worldbuilding” to find good info
>>25183713Pick a name of a rural town from each country and call them that.
>>25183702>Without the ability to reset from sudden deaths, your characters would be likely to die young from freak accidents.Only if they couldn't see it coming.
>Genesis was a snore fest of lineages that I didn't bother to remember(This begot that guy, that guy begot him, him begot he, no one in-between has any relevance to the plot so you could've just skipped them and said that he was a descendant of this guy)>It still had enough edge/grit/tension to keep me reading through it>Start Exodus, know that there were alot of adaptations and homages to it so maybe this one is better>The entire first act is just a cycle of Pharoah refusing to let 'em go, then a plague comes, then he let's them go before saying 'SIKE!'>The rest of the book is a tent building guideYeah, I think I understand why even the fans don't even read ts
>>25181995Traditionally it's held that he killed Cain.
>>25181683>The Orthodox Christian reading is that the six day creation was entirely metaphoricalt. Has never read a single patristic work on the subject, or a work on the subject written by a SaintThe bare minimum is reading St Basil the Great's Hexaemeron, and Fr Seraphim Rose's work on what the Fathers have actually said about Genesis, and chasing up the sources he cites, which are easy to find.The six days of creation are not metaphorical and have never been considered metaphorical by the consensus patrum. That is pure modernism.
>>25184432The orthodox study Bible literally calls them metaphorical. Yes I know St Basil and the other ancients believed them literal but the consensus among orthodox churches today is they are a metaphor. It would be wrong to tell others some ancient heresy for no reason.
>>25184208That's not contradictory at all. God creates humans last, then the next chapter explains the creation of humans. The two chapters have a different focus: First is to explain the creation of the universe and world, second is to explain humans.
>>25178804Idk what you're talking about, Genesis was extremely interesting and sets the foundation for millenia of religious traditions. You kind of have a point with Exodus though lol
>>25184481Principia Mathematica
>>25184533
Neon Genesis Evangelion script.
the art of computer programming
Name the most based author you can think of?
What do you all think of the 1981 BBC radio adaptation of Lord of the Rings?
>>25184073Not familiar with that porno
>>25184073unabridged > abridged > dramatized > movies
>>25184073I don't know, I haven't heard it. What do you think about it?
>>25184363I like it.
If it's not unabridged and verbatim I'm not interested.
Ginger Snaps edition.OLD: >>25125217
>>25183631Joshi seethes at everyone who doesn't write weird fiction
>>25184102King has written some Lovecraftian stories though. Crouch's End and Jerusalem's Lot.
>>25184229>Crouch's End and Jerusalem's LotI knew about Jerusalem's Lot. Probably my all-time favourite weird fiction story not by Lovecraft, actually. Haven't heard of Crouch's End tho so I'll check that out.
>>25184229Doesn't Revival count too
>>25184386Haven't read it yet.
I'm at a point in my life where I think I have a pretty good idea of what most people are like if I spend enough time with them, even if they aren't open about it. Except rich people, especially rich women. They're completely opaque, I can never know what they truly think or whether they really believe what they're saying. There's some non-rich people who also do that to me, but *all* rich people do it. It's like being unreadable is the essential skill to get there.I also recently heard of the "novel of manners" genre, is there something like that for the modern west?
>>25184464in what has replaced humanities, the criminal mindset is the only rationality. the theory was rich people went to university to learn cicero and plato
>>25184472You could have just said “the only way to win in modern society is to be a piece of shit” and you would have gotten your point across more clearlyAlas I agree with you. I was recently given two job offers: one a Silicon Valley startup(they’ve been a “startup” for 8 years now) where almost all the employees are ex FAANG and another a basic satellite engineering company. When I met with the managers and employees of the startup, I was immediately turned off. They were all just pretty awful people, as opposed to the other where everyone was cool and down to earth. Guess which one was making more money. I couldn’t sacrifice whatever soul I still have to gain that much money and turn into whatever those fucks are.
>>25184241This seems uncharitable
>>25180706>It's like being unreadable is the essential skill to get there.What you do isn't interesting. Your financial sorrows, windfalls and net worth derivative observations aren't interesting. You're not Richard Branson. THEY aren't Richard Branson. Business and Politics are the antithesis of light conversation. When you broach these things - particularly over a meal - you've outed yourself as a bore, not of that world. Propriety is the highest good. It's simple: pretend you're a Fed and they're marks. >>25181159>"rich people" are essentially more obsessed with image and material wealth than your average ghetto drug dealerHaute bourgeois are even more mid, because Mammon cannot anoint them with better character, social graces, real learning . . . this is where the real 'consumerism' is. These aren't the 'unreadable' per OP, they're The Hollow Men, Patrick Batemans one and all. >>25181408>Being friendly to [outgroup] serves no benefit.Comes from The Help treating them like Tourists and attempting to up-sell and scalp you as a matter of course, for no other reason than they think you're soft, and to conflict averse to not just take the hit, 'because you can afford it'.
>>25181549What looks lazy is also ruthless efficiency. Autopilot's the goal. >>25183052>the idea of poor people being flesh automata is pretty on point.Communication breaks down once there's one or more standard deviations of IQ in play. Genetic distance between, say, the British aristocrat families and working poor may as well be as distant as an entire other race. >>25184164This is the right noblesse oblige attitude, and it's what Total Tech Panopticon State fetishists can't have.
Are Hunger and Growth of the Soil any good?
>>25183641>Hungerthis one is a must-read
>>25183641Hunger is great
not just good, but necessary reading
Existentialist garbage. If you're Christian you're not going to enjoy it.
>>25184447So as a Hellenic polytheist, will I like it or not?
Either regularly or now and again count>Granta>DIAGRAM>New Yorker>Ploughshares>Paris Review>Heavy Traffic
>>25181182Thanks, that was great. I remembered I've had a copy of Young Skins on my computer for a while, and probably heard of it on here. Were you recommending it before? And my own Irish rec would be Nobber by Oisin Fagan, which I really enjoyed last year. Brat by Gabriel Smith is good too.
>>25181367Wasn't the one who was recommending it before but I think I first heard about it here too lol. Really, really good. His sophomore novel was a letdown though>Nobber by Fagan, Brat by SmithNever read either, but I've heard of the second. Thanks for the recs. Gabriel Smith's associated with the NY Tyrant scene, right? I might be thinking of someone else. Didn't know he was a /lit/tard lmfao
>>25182296Yeah, I think the NY Tyrant guy was the one who originally pushed him to work on Brat, then when Gian(?) died Penguin took him on or something like that. And I believe he said it was a story that he originally published in the Stinging Fly that became Brat (which as a process was something that I found illuminating, and got me to finally make something out of some old ideas I'd been doing little with).>Didn't know he was a /lit/tard lmfaoHe was actually posting about Brat here before it came out, posting the work-in-progress cover. I dunno if I was in the first thread, and I started out pretty skeptical from the shill angle, but he left a good impression and it got me to read Brat. Plus the version I read was the copy he uploaded to LG, based on what he said here, so that was cool. Later there was a trip pretending to be him, but the first few threads were seemingly genuine.Anyway, hoping to see more from Gabriel Smith, but I haven't seen any short works of his published since then besides his occasional Twitter posts babbling about AI and another novel.
>>25179463THANK YOU FOIDS AND FAGS
>>25183399Huh, interesting. Didn't know he got his start in The Stinging Fly. I'll have to find his story in there somewhere, hopefully it's online>shills book here, uploads it to libgen himself, book is actually goodlmfao this is great. This just shot way up in my reading list order. Second-gen Tao Lin type of deal
I ran out of space
>>25183789>>251837963/4
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1/2
>>251838212/2
>>25169811Heh, truly based, fellow chud.
I simply REFUSE to believe that this retard sold enough books to own a PENTHOUSE.
>>25184387>saar he is brahmin and gets bob and redeem
>>25184084>write a bunch of books no one reads>put effort into it>no one reads>kill yourselft. the one who was closest to making it.
>>25184084>t. delusional Unreal cocksucker
https://discord.gg/EMq43xYNxq
it's a really shitty studio condo in chicago that his parents bought
I love this grumpy old man like you wouldn't believe.
>>25181808aura
>>25181860>t. has never read Redemption
>>25181808Me too but man was he wrong about Shakespeare.
>>25181808Read his wife's diaries. He was fucking mental. But then a lot of geniuses are
>>25183556Overly exaggerated. Tolstoy and his wife exchanged diaries, he read everything she wrote and so it was written with the intention of airing their grievances during their turbulent marriage. At points she became so hysterical she even threatened suicide, and constantly oscillated between hating him and being relentlessly devoted to him. He was a bad husband and it was his greatest error in life but she wasn't the helpless victim she's painted as today either
I am trying to write fun novellas with good prose, but for the love of God, all I can ever write about is the problem of suicide, and the farthest I've strayed from his is low brown economics and political philosophies (the pro-wrestling of philosophy) masquerading as actual philosophy. My characters can barely pontificate about anything besides how they deal with their own suffering, like I am somehow repeating time and time again what Camus has already talked about in the 1940s.I guess it does not help that I have struggled with the problem of suicide myself, and frankly have so much ceased to find joy in the struggle that I'd have blown my brains already had I not given away my one gun.Everything else just feels unimportant, but I have nothing particularly interesting to add to what Camus has already written.
>>25184471They say actually killing yourself helps you to understand, you could try it and who knows, maybe the right ideas and the right words will come pouring out.
Where are /lit/ people in real life? How do I get a book club of people as autistic as me and the people on /lit/? I don't mean faggots who read Cormac McFaggot or retards who vaguely like Socrates. I mean the schizo who learned Greek to read Proclus in the original while working at a taco restaurant and not getting laid for 14 years. I only want severely autistic friends.I will never, ever use Discord for any reason. I will never talk to anyone who uses Twitter for any reason. I want /lit/ friends in real life. I can't take it anymore. All the "smart" people I know are STEM PhDs who watch retarded documentaries about quantum physics and then get high and spitball wacky ideas in their “free time”. It's NOT ENOUGH. Reality itself seems thin and alien. I joined a Plato reading group and it was just 120 IQ midwit normies who wanted to sprinkle a dash of Plato on their otherwise normal lives. IT'S NOT ENOUGH. I don't want to talk about basic bitch podcast Stoicism once every few months with a laser biochemist who hates talking about his own work and doesn't give a shit about science or anything but ordering junk on amazon and exercising. I don't want to talk to WOMEN about Jane Austen because I read Jane Austen just to have something real to talk about and I was excited they also read Jane Austen, only to find out that they are "1917"-watching mental children who read Jane Austen the same way they watch "Severance." I don't want to read Kant’s Critique of Pure Reason so I can talk to some positivist faggot who thinks it’s about empirical cognition, just to find out his entire reading is based on reddit posts. I don't want to talk to “””atheists””” who parrot Hitchens and haven’t read a word of Augustine, because they think the RETARDED EVANGELICALISM they were raised in is the summit of theism. I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO SOI-DISANT PHILOSOPHERS WHOSE KNOWLEDGE OF EVERYTHING THEY BUILD THEIR GAY IDENTITY ON COMES FROM SUMMARIES AND DUMBASS FUCKING BLOGS AND REDDIT!!!I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!! I HATE THIS PLACE! I NEED TO BREAK FREE! I WANT TO TALK TO A FAT SOCIALLY ABNORMAL GUY WHO LEARNED SANSKRIT BECAUSE A THREAD ON 4CHAN TOLD HIM IT WAS COOL!! I WANT TO MEET THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN TRYING TO READ THE ENTIRE ST. JOHN'S BOOK LIST OR BLOOM'S CANON WHILE LIVING WITH THEIR MOM!!! NO MORE QUIRKY PEOPLE, NO MORE INTERNET-BRAINED NORMIES AND NORMIFIED INTERNET TEACHING GAY MILLENIALS, I WANT REAL ACTUAL SCHIZOS AND I WANT THEM FUCKING NOW!!!! WHERE DID ALL THE REAL HUMANS GO?!?!?!? WHERE'S THE GUY TRYING TO WIN A FIELD'S MEDAL TO THE TOTAL DETRIMENT OF HIS PERSONAL LIFE WHILE PHONING IN A MECHANICAL ENGINEERING DEGREE BECAUSE HIS BROWN DAD WANTS HIM TO "GET A REAL JOB?" I KNEW HIM ONCE!!! HE WAS MORE INTERESTING THAN THESE BLOG-READING, PODCAST-LISTENING, TWITTER- AND DISCORD-USING FUCKING FAGGOTS!!!!!!!!
I see a whole lot of resentment ITT.
>>25184055I have been here long enough to remember the sort and I'm still here.I'm not near as bright as anyone you describe though, so I wouldn't be able to form part of your secret club.I really tried learning ancient greek, and do know enough to impress some people. To "impress" as no one really cares if you know some greek. And it is so much easier to find translations, and so time consuming to learn a language.Time goes by so fast you quickly stop being an edgy teenager, and if you lack the talent (or audacity) to make it, you realize the only thing that stops you from killing yourself or total insanity is becoming a wageslave.Actually, I don't think anyone can make it in this time and age. Have you seen the best sellers? The public does not reward talent, but mediocrity. I guess these people who aimed high either became wageslaves or killed themselves or just married. Who knows.As long as the world punishes genius, we will all continue to be mediocre or die.
>>25184203Fuck you dude I graduated college with honors. I have been offered promotions multiple times at my blue collar job and turned them down, didn’t even apply. I also intentionally sought a no-skill job because I am so disgusted with the likes of you. I’d rather be poor than engage with normie society. I know you think it’s cope (you’d really give up ENDLESS AMAZON PACKAGES??) but it is completely true. I hate you and everything you believe in and I hope you die in a fucking fire.
>>25184055People like that are probably more common than you might think, they're just very reclusive and you'd rarely ever encounter them outside of the internet.
>>25184055I feel like a loser doing it, but check out meetup __dot__ com and look for book club. You join the group on the website and then show up to the meeting.I'm near DC and I just found a history of philosophy book club (last 3 authors are Vico, Montesquieu, & Pascal), a classic literature club (last 3 readings are To The Lighthouse, Emily Dickinson poems, and Stoner (lol))... there's also a history book club and a lit fic meetup in a local suburb. There's probably something near you provided you live close to a big metro area.
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>>25184429>good fucking god you are pathetic. shoot me in the head if i ever lose my sapience like thisone of my characters talks exactly like you and i'm stealing this line
>>25184429Cite me some legitimate sources saying reddit spacing is "the standard" if it's so standard>>25184437Your character talks like an idiot
>>25184443your argument changed from "the reason it's standard is because other people did it, making it the standard" to "it's not actually the standard, SOURCES NOW??"i wonder if you even realize you're the npc
>>25184311Oh cool you have no taste.
>>25184451You're putting words in my mouth and ignoring my point. You lose the argument.
