So i have a friend who recently got into audiobooks and he keeps talking about this one and tries getting us into it but it just seems like slop to me,did anyone here read it and what do you think of it ? worth getting into ?
>>25189422i like visual novels, some comics/manga, the occasional NPR approved novel. but odds are some of that stuff would be seen as "overly pretentious" by weebs and gamers who think that popcorn flicks in novelized form are high art.
>>25189422Sci-fi
It's nothing particularly special. Likes others have said it's written for normies. The plot is decent but full of tropes. It's just entertaining. I enjoyed it decently, but I wouldn't confuse it with well written or ground breaking.
>>25188060To his defense, as an audio book it's a lot less jarring.But the genre is fucking garbage from top to bottom, and these are equivalent in prose to something like Animorphs.t. Also had it recommended by a normie friend, DNF about 30 pages in.
>>25187539You're allowed to try something and make up your mind. I don't like modern fantasy/isekai type stories but I started reading Carl. I got into the first book eventually and then the rest of the series got really interesting. Just realize you read for fun and it's a fucking goofy satire and not something you have to analyze or write a report on. Yes, it's reddit compared to your Baudelaire or whatever you usually talk about on /lit/.Audiobooks can be a personal taste. I read the paper versions. I don't listen to audiobooks and some of the voices in this were annoying to me when I tried it. But people say it's one of the better current audiobook efforts and it gets better as the series goes on.
Which philosophers have totally 180d on their previous held views and repudiated themselves?
>>25188444checked
>>25181449You could say that they all turned on it (it being Marxism). Due to pragmatic reality of thing. As well as the need for control. That's why they ditched democracy, workers councils, and brough in strong centralized control, which, if you go with Marx, should "wither away" instead. But it only grew stronger with the need to control the populace.
>>25175417Transhumanism is not inherently anti or pro liberal, at least as far as we can see ideology as it stands now. In fact, it's a nebulous concept as of now, because most of the tech would actually turn it into reality is very rudimentary or non existent. And I am not talking about AI, robots, because those are ancillary things. Transhumanism, in purest form, is about human augmentation, fighting the aging processes, things like that. It's human centered.
>>25184020>can't think in four dimensions >calls me a moronWell ain't it the pot calling the kettle an African.
>>25189288Objective biological superiority will not bode well for liberalism. They already suppress eugenics for that reason, now imagine augmented cybernetic humans and such
Monsters, Dragons, Beasts, Creatures, Horrors, and Miscellaneous Lifeforms Edition Version 2: Magical and/or Alien BoogalooFAQ:>What is worldbuilding?Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"Yes, of course you can!>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25189013This is fucking bullshit.
>>25189682It is what it is.
There's a difference between a practice being common and accepted, if you get my meaning. Some things may be common enough in a society because people can get away with it and get something out of it, but the majority of the population might outright hate it.
>>25189907Like pedophilia?
>>25130237List anon, are you there? I was thinking of having a small pantheon of seasonal gods in my setting and I could use domain ideas besides the obvious like Spring and Fertility, can you help please? Dies anyone else have any suggestions please?
Ginger Snaps edition.OLD: >>25125217
>>25187663Give us a synopsis
>>25182568What is the greatest edition of King In Yellow?
>>25189306Just get a copy with annotations
>>25188794>A world caught in an endless war...A world where Western civilization is but a distant memory...a world on the brink of...GLOBAL ANARCHY>TL;DR If the current world we live in could be described as SATAN then what follows is SATAN 2.0. The current cover is AI-slop (albeit loosely based on the finale) and I wish I knew what scene to use for my cover...I've sent the audio version to a few friends but it's an EPIC (almost 9 hours in Romanian, a bit over 8 in English) so it'll take a while until they can give me any pointers (They have jobs and even families, unlike me). It's on Youtube (Channel: BE3R), recently posted...Global Anarchy: Audiobook seems to work as a search termI've had SOME positive feedback but until more people give it a listen I myself don't even know how to promote it...Or what to do to eventually make a game out of it (Can't code to save my life, wanted to make a Deus Ex-like, but don't have a team and I do not want to create AI slop)TL;DR Gib ffedback plz
>>25189888>8-9 hour audiobook is an epicHuh?
>read The Sorrows Of Young Werther>it's proto-simp literature of its time>read Elective Affinities>it keeps getting more and more ridiculous in its moral whitewashing of its characters with every chapter>keep waiting for some sort of divine punishment or moral>end up with a sequence where within 5 or so pages a baby has died, the culprit is forgiven, the parents feel glad it's gone and they're all just horny to fuck each other now that the baby is out of the way>main heroine again an heroes >there's no moral>apparently wanting to divorce your wife to fuck her nubile niece and wanting to divorce your husband to fuck his friend is based and properWtf? I am now very hesitant to move onto Faust. It seems to me Goethe was literally just a simp who placed some cringy love above everything. I expected more but these are literally just romanceschlock for moids instead of foids. The more old and revered literature I read, the more I keep getting >my friend>my love>oh dear gracious God>loving sure is good and the bestest best, surely you agree my friend>yes my friend whom I loveComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>when will this book finally get to longhousing me into accepting a moral lesson
>>25189495They were more austere and cerebral. I prefer that.
>>25187262Says the homosexual of soul like the OP
>>25189495Of course Schopenhauer and Nietzsche knew heartache.
>>25187262>when will yahweh strike down these wicked sinners for having desireSuffice to say Faust will also be lost on you.
>Genesis was a snore fest of lineages that I didn't bother to remember(This begot that guy, that guy begot him, him begot he, no one in-between has any relevance to the plot so you could've just skipped them and said that he was a descendant of this guy)>It still had enough edge/grit/tension to keep me reading through it>Start Exodus, know that there were alot of adaptations and homages to it so maybe this one is better>The entire first act is just a cycle of Pharoah refusing to let 'em go, then a plague comes, then he let's them go before saying 'SIKE!'>The rest of the book is a tent building guideYeah, I think I understand why even the fans don't even read ts
>>25178804Yeah the old testament is a struggle to read for a lot of it and one of the reasons I call people LARPers when they say the Bible is their favorite book. The new testament is a better place to start if you don't have a ultra serious scholarly interest in the bible.
>>25178804Leviticus was a slog, but you need all the stuff in the Old Testament to make sense of the New Testament
>>25189525That's why I tell most people to read it but don't worry about memorizing anything as a third of those laws aren't even relevant to Jews anymore, and even more aren't relevant to Christians.
All parts of OT worth preserving could fit in 100 or 200 pages or so.First page of Genesis.Moses Bush and Platonic Cave ascent on mountain, bronze serpent.Skip to David and his Psalms.Song of Songs, Ecclesiastes + other Wisdom Books.Maybe Isaiah for the spice then Micah for obvious Apokatastasis.For the rest Marcion was right.
>>25188507to be fair, I like 1 samuel through 2 chroniclesbut yeah "favorite book" feels really larpy
basically, I'm going out to a family thing and I wanna read a book with animals in it to pass the time, so, any suggestions would be nicepreferably something I can easily just find online and read on my phone
>>25189957There's like 30 redwall books, just read the sequels.
>>25189957warrior cats seriesand that one with the owls.
>>25189957There are like 20 redwall books, just reread them. Game of Thrones is just a cheap imitation, don't start them.
watership down
Book of the Dun Cow is great and rarely talked about. Plague Dogs too.
What is the proper way to read a play?
Left to right, up to down
>>25189915Plays were meant to be viewed, not read, so watch the movies instead.
What does /lit/ think of this series? As a retard who hadn't read a book since high school, I thought it was nothing short of incredible.
>>25189926Right, the Mohaine desert is like the tip of the tip of the tip of the iceberg. Took me a while to get through Wizard and Glass, as well as Wolves of the Calla. Disliked certain parts of Song of Susannah and The Dark Tower but overall thoroughly enjoyed them, nearly as much as The Drawing of the Three and The Waste Lands. Thought the movie could not have been more far removed from the books. The tower is barely mentioned, Ka is never mentioned even once, no Eddie or Susannah. Its an decent-at-best movie on its own legs, but its gotta be the worst adaptation of anything I've ever seen. I've always kinda pictured Vigo Mortensen as Roland.
>>25189876first 4 books are incredible, after that he can't sustain the elan vital, should have wrapped it up book 5.
>>25189965I agree and disagree. I think books 2-4 are god-tier, but I actually really loved 6 and 7. Book 5 was cool but had some manor pacing issues for me
I can never figure out to rank this series, it's just too all over the place
>>25189876It's a bad end to a multi-route mystery visual novel, if you're familiar with the term.
>name is literally GOATWas he not the greatest of all time?
>>25189658Hey now, his opinion is retarded but Melville is brilliant; shut your mouth.
>>25189079English from German is always better in translation than it ever was in German anyway.If it's translated to Swedish that's even more beautiful. (As is English into Swedish.)
>>25189024yeah he be da goat n shiet nigga got those bars in dem books like that one about the sorrows of a yung nigga nietzsche vibed with this nigga he was a real g dont mess with my fucking goat yall bitch ass niggas
>>25189857This manner of conduct ill beseems you, anon.
>>25189862shut up nigga
I just ordered my first book & read ever. The divine Comedy
>>25189941I hope you enjoy it, anon. It's a beautiful poem, but also a difficult one. Even if you end up dropping it, I hope you come back to it in a decade or two.t. loved Purgatorio, but was filtered by Paradiso and I plan to come back to it eventually
>>25189941I have it on my reading list for a long time. i hope you make a post on the book telling us your thoughts some day
Will literature ever regain cultural prominence?
>>25189100>he's not the richest or the most famousshouldn't it be "he's not the richest nor the most famous"?
Of course old-school books/authors are not as influential as they were but the creative force is still vital; it just finds its way into other forms (products).Regardless of the modern entertainment, it's genesis is still someone and their ideas (and a desire to express them).I see writing as vital because it is the least meditated of the art forms. Consider all the efforts made, the number of people involved, in adapting an author's work into a film/tv show. So many egos, opinions, constraints and obstacles exist that the writer avoids, snug in his garret, living in their imagination.Consider the struggle for authors to get published in the past, if their themes were heterodox to their culture, race, politics. Many were prosecuted and exiled in a manner that few of us could contextualize or really understand (off the top of my head, see Solzhenitzen).If you have an idea and some ambition, you have a million ways to make that a reality that people in past did not have.When an author achieves mass popularity, they can also become a character/public persona (or even caricature). Nowadays, someone becomes notorious first, or gets some niche attention, then leverages it to get published. Many of the agents I've listened to have made this point.I guess the point is that the forms that lit will take in the future are hard to predict, but that spark will remain.Hit me with your best cynicism and I'll try to defend my dung heap.
>>25189705"Nor" is typically used with "neither."
How do I get started with Franzen?
>>25189923the word typically is doing a lot of heavy lifting for your so-called argument
>have to re-read a paragraph because my mind drifted to boobs and pusy again
>>25189406Libido out, then what other pleasure? Hunger as well? Taking a nice shit also? Everything we do is so we can maximize our pleasure and minimize our misery at the end of the day. We work, we read, we want to become more intellectual partly because of pussy.
>>25187153Your wife's boobs and pussy are that distracting? Lucky man.
Then you simply don't enjoy reading. It's a cult for you. Find other hobby
>>25189406Or..you can just discipline yourself.
>>25187142if you have any interest at all in the book you are reading, your attention likely snaps when you are challenged by a phrase or word you do not immediately understand - and i mean this word literally, not in any abstract or "higher enlightenment" sense. you were likely very poorly educated, there is so much you do not know, and the real problem is your mind is used to wandering when faced with any challenge whatsoever.my suggestion: read with a pencil and/or notebook. immediately write when you notice you have stopped paying attention, either with your thoughts, or your best attempt to understand what the impediment was. keep a wiktionary or wikipedia tab open, or better, use physical reference material to keep from being distracted by the internet. and, obviously, stop watching so much porn.you are an idiot, i am very sorry to tell you. we all are. you have to educate yourself. it will take years, and most of the time you will just be frustrated. but it can be done. you do not have to be convinced it is worth doing, since you are already doing it yourself, which is perhaps your strongest asset.>>25189954we ought to read for more than mere enjoyment!
"Sadly, Porn" by The Last Psychiatrist, what do you think of this, is it worth reading?
>>25189863Used to be more common than you'd think
>>25189875wait is it an essay? i thought it was a novel
>>25189881its for people who read too much, externalizing their desires and ideas of their accomplishment and loss to other people and things
>>25189578>>25189866This guy has never interested me.
>>25189894joyce and bely already addressed this, read more
Bakker being deep editionHere we discuss any kind of science fiction and fantasy.>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
>>25189709You must know, all that pointless exposition will be skipped entirely. Maybe that will make it entertaining.
>>25188718>filteredYes. Shitty writing and poor characterization filters me.
>>25189647AppleTV seems to give respectable budgets. Still, I can't see anyway they could do a live action Stormlight well. The scale is too large and there is just far too many fantasy elements.
>>25189287Sounds like the game is missing an arab orgy expansion.
>>25186986The Wolf's Call in nuthshell.
