>start reading pic rel>realise I can't have a cute virgin like Natasha ever fall in love with me>instantly get demoralised and give up reading or doing anything productiveHow do I stop this from happening? I'm tired of reading dark fantasy and pessimistic philosophy since life is shit and it won't change things if I bring logic into it. At the same time I just get demoralised when I read happy stories, or books with happy elements. I feel as if I'm being mocked by being shown what I can't have. I don't like looking at cakes that I can't eat. So what do? How do I motivate myself to anything? Currently I'm just keeping myself occupied with chores so that I don't have to think about how unlicky and miserable I am. I would like to read books like War and Peace, but not in a life situation like this.
>>23320151>How do I stop this from happening? Have sex.
>>23320151youre cannon fodder, anon. just another body shredded by grapeshot. You're not a Russian aristocrat.
>>23320182Already did, and it just made the problem worse. What now?
>>23320232Then you already know what it feels like to get something you desired and thought would fix your problems only to make it worse because the real problem is that your obsessions were unhealthy to begin with. Maybe stop caring about dumb shit?
>>23320265No, I didn't get what I desired.
>>23320288Have you tried being racist against blacks? Failing that, embrace orthodox religions like Amish, renounce all the technocrap and in exchange have purity within your reach, technocrap perverts human nature and introduces impurity, it's a tool of the state to ruin the white race, blacks are an impurity agent too, any church that houses them is a false church as blacks are provably demons
>>23320151Stop being such a fucking pussy.
>>23320317What would being racist give me? I don't even see many blacks around me, I'm not an american. Blacks are extremely rare in my country, bur even if that wasn't the case, I don't see how being racist against them would help me achieve anything.
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>>23320346Surely there's some group in your country that you can be racist against
>>23320151Natasha is not the best War and Peace girl. Eventually you will understand.Sonya is so much better it is not even funny.
>>23320151I wouldn’t want to date a Natasha tbqhRead Anna Karenina and realise that Kitty is the superior waifu
>>23320392Very trueSonia is also easier to get because there’s far less competition for her (none at all actually)
>>23320399Sonya (War and Peace) > Sonya (Crime and Punishment) > Kitty (Anna Karenina) > Natasha (War and Peace) >>>>> Anna Karenina
>>23320403As a divorced man, seeing Anna K pull through and live at the halfway point of the book made me so fucking mad. Thought it would just go on to follow Levin. I would have seen her tortured to death by African pygmy niggers by the end of that fucking book. How anyone rates Anna K higher than W&P is beyond me.
>>23320411Maybe because we’re not Goodreads women and we don’t rate books based on how much of a good person the main character is?
>>23320425I think I have seen people claiming Anna Karenina and.... ...Emma Bovary of all people are heroines.
>>23320425>we don’t rate books based on how much of a good person the main character is?Yeah but Tolstoy seemed to have a hard time making up his mind. If he thinks any of her whoreishness permissable then I have problems with the writers morals which is a problem even if you try to diminish it through reductionism. It's the same reason I don't read atheist writers anymore. Character bad = ok. Author bad = waste of my fucking time
>>23320430If a woman ever told me that (the “people” you mentionned are all women, we all know that) it’d be the reddest of flags to be ever flown
>>23320438Anna Karenina ends up in a terrible situation.
>>23320438You should be able to appreciate art regardless of the morals of the author or the story but even then, AK suffers a lot through the story
>>23320442Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that much of her behavior is presented in a positive light. Lots of people die or end in horrible positions without it relating to the authors opinion of the characters value. Towards the end I'll concede that Tolstoy seemed to think some of her specific crimes unforgivable, but there are plenty of horrendous things he handwaves and even seems to support, namely much of the initial adultery >>23320448And I did appreciate it well enough, but in my limited time I'd rather read people who have a similar worldview to mine, people like Goethe or Rousseau
>>23320451>Goethe or Rousseau>RousseauWhat?
>>23320462Rousseau tolerates make infidelity but doesn't suffer it from his women, as proven in Confessions. Male infidelity is ok because men are intelligent and have agency and women are stupid and are whores. But I do feel there's a deep similarity between the worldviews of Goethe and Rousseau and they're two people who's writings speak very well to me. So far I've enjoyed Balzac a lot too
>>23320151Masturbate for gay porn, faggot.
>>23320151Why are misogynists always the ones to write women the greatest?
>>23320392Great, so there are more girls who I can get demoralized by. Yay.
>>23320151Just detach yourself bro
>>23320151I'm with you OP. Reading old books makes me extremely depressed about the state of the world. I had to stop reading John Muir's writings, because he kept describing how incredible all the nature in America was and then I would put down the book, look around, and think about how 90% of the places he talked have been razed to the ground.
>>23320470>Rousseau tolerates male infidelity but doesn't suffer it from his women... Male infidelity is ok because men are intelligent and have agency and women are stupid and are whoresThis makes no sense to me. If anything, it should be the opposite. Male infidelity is not okay, because they're intelligent and have agency, so they're responsible for their actions. While women are stupid and whores, so infidelity is just part of their nature.
>>23320392The best WaP girl is Comtessa Bolkonska.
>>23320394They are quite literally the same archetype of Tolstoj's ideal woman.
>>23320970Rousseau is a funny guy. Don’t worry about it
>>23321528Tolstoy thinks women are only fit for being mothers and wives. He also thinks everyone should stop having sex and kids because Jesus said it was bad. Tolstoy also had 14 kids. He believed a lot of things.
>>23320451Tolstoj never handwaves any of her shit away. He very much condems it as wrong and amoral. However, as a christian he still has pity for her. It is beyond me how you could read that book and miss the entire point.
>>23321558Yes, By his very admission in WaP he is Bezuchov. He was always struggling to live the kind of ideal he believed in.
>>23321574Nigga bitch you're wrong, I read that shit a month ago. Plenty of it is >Oh yeah it was pretty uncool but her husband was a real loser so no wonder she's fucking aroundAnd that's him as a narrator. I'm too fucking lazy to go pull lines for you, but he 100% handwaves a good half the shit she does, especially early in the book Should have done a reverse Faust ending where she's dragged to hell and forced to suck Satan's thorny penis
>>23321982You should learn to read with comprehension then.I too finished the book last month and, nkwhere does he approve of her adultery, and her entire ending is portrayed as result of her own actions and failings while draging Vronskij down as well.
>>23320151Natasha is a BPD girlSonja is where it's at
>>23322680Gentle reminder to all anons to NOT stick your dick in crazy no matter how desperate you get. You'll regret it
