Post any good history books. Primary sources, secondary sources or biographies.Washington's Crossing by David Hackett Fischer>On Christmas Night of 1776, George Washington and the Continental Army crossed the Delaware River during a brutal snowstorm. A few hours later, Washington attacked Trenton, defeated the Hessian garrison, and turned the tide of the war.https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1206073.Washington_s_Crossinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington%27s_crossing_of_the_Delaware_Riverhttps://www.americanhistorycentral.com/entries/washington-crossing-the-delaware-1776Previous thread: >>23446304
Recently I've been reading a lot of journals from early American pioneers. I read William Clark's journal from his expedition as well as Colonel James Smith's account of his time in Indian captivity. Both of them can be found on Project Gutenberg.
>>23504798From Byzantium to Italy: Greek Studies in the Italian Renaissancewhat i'm reading now philippe le Bel de Jean Favier (probably not translated)
>>23504798Could you guys recommend books about the Eastern Front, from both German and Soviet perspective at the top level, you know Hitler and his generals versus Stalin and his generals etc.? Most of the books I've came across only have German perspective.
>>23504798General consensus on Bernard Bailyn?
>>23505055The Ideological Origins of the American Revolution was pretty interesting as an “intellectual” history of the revolutionary period, if you want to know what the founding fathers were reading and how it influenced them then you will get something out of it.
The Bridge at Andau
Mandatory reading for 20th century European history
>>23506055You think Stalin let his generals write down and publish how bad the Eastern front was?
>>23507236Meant for >>23505016
American Revolutionary history is so cool I'm not even American either
>>23505016David Glantz.
>>23505016The Road to Stalingrad by John Erickson
these are the only threads that are worth anything on /lit/ anymore.
>>23508579Just goes to show how terrible /his/ is
>>23508579>same posts about american civil war and WW2 every threadYeah no
>>23508899>WW2 every threadGood, I will never get tired of WW2 recommendations.
I'm interested in learning about the legacy of Napolean and the shaping of the modern nation state. I'm also interested in how the Renaissance and Reformation related. Any recommendations?
>Struggle for Empire explores the contest for kingdoms and power among Charlemagne's descendants that shaped the formation of Europe. It examines this pivotal era through the reign of Charlemagne's grandson, Louis the German (826-876), one of the longest-ruling Carolingian kings. >By highlighting the ways in which dynastic rivalries, aristocratic rebellions, diplomacy, and warfare shaped Louis's reign, Struggle for Empire uncovers the dynamism and innovation of ninth-century kingship. To trace Louis's evolving policies, Goldberg moves beyond the evidence traditionally used to study his reign--the Annals of Fulda--and exploits the visual arts, liturgy, archeology, and especially charters. The result is a remarkably comprehensive and colorful picture of Carolingian kingship in action.It's a fun book on Louis and the collapsing Carolingian Empire
>>23504798My diary (it will be published posthumously in the 2300s as a historical document)
>>23504851>Project Gutenberg.Thank you anon!
>>23510105>goldbergnah
>>23504798this 1 is good if you like violence kekfreebie too just internet search
>>23510080>Renaissance and ReformationThe Renaissance and Reformation in Northern Europe>An essential collection of primary source documents that vividly brings this tumultuous period to life through the words of the change-makers. Representing a wide variety of document types, including legal documents, letters, journals, sermons, speeches, and works of poetry and fiction
Letters from an American Farmer by J. Hector St. John de Crèvecoeur>Michel Guillaume Jean de Crèvecœur (December 31, 1735 – November 12, 1813), naturalized in New York as John Hector St. John, was a French-American writer. He was born in Caen, Normandy, France, to the Comte and Comtesse de Crèvecœur. In 1782, in London, he published a volume of narrative essays entitled the Letters from an American Farmer. The book quickly became the first literary success by an American author in Europe and turned Crèvecœur into a celebrated figure. He was the first writer to describe to Europeans - employing many American English terms - the life on the American frontier and to explore the concept of the American Dream, portraying American society as characterized by the principles of equal opportunity and self-determination. His work provided useful information and understanding of the "New World" that helped to create an American identity in the minds of Europeans by describing an entire country rather than another regional colony. The writing celebrated American ingenuity and the uncomplicated lifestyle. It described the acceptance of religious diversity in a society being created from a variety of ethnic and cultural backgrounds. His application of the Latin maxim "Ubi panis ibi patria" (Where there is bread, there is my country) to early American settlers also shows an interesting insight. He once praised the middle colonies for "fair cities, substantial villages, extensive fields...decent houses, good roads, orchards, meadows, and bridges, where an hundred years ago all was wild, woody, and uncultivated."https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/4666https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letters_from_an_American_Farmer
>>23510158Why
>>23504798Good historical anthropology on early America?
>>23506055How do you think he thesis stacks up against Charles A. Beard’s?
>>23504798i read history magazines and history encyclopedias with a bunch of picturesi find i learn more about history this way than reading a book full of nothing but text.pic-related is pretty good. you can find it on libgen
>>23510671Do you have autism just asking
>>23504798Good books on Roman Empire trade?
>>23510878The Periplus Maris Erythraei is a primary source about trade to the East.Rome and the Distant East : Trade Routes to the Ancient Lands of Arabia, India and China is also a good source though not primary
>>23510939Couldn’t find one and the other is pricey. Anything else?
>>23511050>http://dge.cchs.csic.es/dge-i/lst-trad/Bookzz/Casson%201989.pdfFor the Periplus. Just read the introduction and the text, commentary is pretty bad.
>>23510878Raoul McLaughlin's books. Has one on Rome and the indian ocean and one on Rome and the silk road
>>23506855Irving is a hack and a liar.
>>23511151Thought so. Thanks.
Looking for recommendations for two different wars. The Crimean War and the Franco-Prussian War. Hoping for to find both overviews/general history and or memoirs. Thanks.
>>23511240How so? He did far deeper research than any other historian and cites tons of primary sources, some of which had been previously undiscovered until he dug them out of the archives.
>>23506791I’m guessing Hungarian partisans/anti-fascist rebels? Do you like it?
>>23508640This. I have 32 threads hidden and it still sucks. Although, there are actually a couple threads worth monitoring right now. Book threads always die though.
>>23511240Post nose schlomo. Irving has the highest standard of scholarship for the topics he covers, using copious primary sources instead of biased authors.
>>23512712The Crimean War: A History - Orlando FigesThe Franco-Prussian War: The German Conquest of France in 1870-1871 - Geoffrey Wawro
Are there any good books on early modern maritime history?
>>23513767>>23513969He misquotes and lies about those primary sources.Instead of reading his garbage, I recommend you instead read the transcripts for the bench trial where he was utterly humiliated and revealed to be a lying, deceptive, fraudster. They're available here,https://www.hdot.org/trial-materials/trial-transcripts/If you haven't the time, the transcipt was used as a script for a TV movie,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCe3G9gODU4inb4>That was a Jewish trial done by Jews!!1!!1If Irving wasn't lying he would have been able to refute the points made against him. He didn't, and never has.
>>23514047Ignoring the sort of cringe, pop history title, this book was actually well written and very informative for someone who doesn’t know anything about earl modern naval history. Obviously, it’s from a British perspective, but it explains things that was constant for all navies and naval adventurers.
>>23514073Forgot pic
>>23505016Stalin's War by Sean McMeekin
>>23504798Any good books about western front in 1940? I've read a bit of Code Red by Forczyk but it's full of weird and masonic takes like blaming Kimmel for Pearl Harbor, whitewashing Gamelin and blaming Petain for Gamelin's wrong moves, also shitting on Petain and Weygand in generał.
>>23514048I took a look through the trial transcripts and I haven't seen a single instance where Irving was truly debunked on any point or proven to be a liar. To the contrary, Irving continuously pointed out obvious holes in the prosecution's arguments, with one prominent example of very many instances of this in picrel. After looking through the transcripts as you asked, I'm even more convinced that the trial was a hitjob and Irving's research was factual. Either post your nose or a counterfactual that isn't regurgitated ad hominem attacks and a literal Hollywood movie used for "evidence"
>>23513769I think its a good read, Michener was actually living in Austria during the end of the Hungarian Uprising and talked with some of the refugees. It isn't the most comprehensive book on the subject I'm sure, but I usually like Michener's writing.
French bros, best books in French about the Revolution and the Commune? Preferably has an ePub as I will be uploading them into LingQ
>>23504798up from slavery
>>23506855His Rommel biography is great.
>>23515210révoluton : françois furet ,michelle vovelle pour une vision mainstream.Albert soboul (didn't find in french an epub but there's a pdf in english) for background economic (also have political history)olivier blanc pour tout ce qui est espionnage ,complotsla contre-révolution de tulard pour voir du côté contre-révolutionnaire.Différents articles dans la lignée d'albert mathiez aussi par rapport à tout ce qui est terreur,complots,agiotage etc sinon lire des articles sur différents points de la révolution.Tu peux aussi trouver les séances parlementaires de la convention sur gallica.Jean clément martin aussi ,c'est un peu l'historien qu'a la hype en ce moment ,son histoire de la révolution française est pas forcément captivante du moins ça m'avait pas marqué.Pour une histoire critique de la révolution française ,une histoire politiquement incorrect de la révolution.C'est pas forcément négatif de voir les controverses historiographiques sur le sujet.je conseille absolument de lire olivier blanc ou malthiez ,ça montre bien à quel point beaucoup de sois personnages très important en fait ont joué un double jeu.
>>23515454Merci, mon ami
>>23511240This.
>Irving has the highest standard of scholarship for the topics he covers, using copious primary sources instead of biased authors.
>>23514880The Fall of France by Julian Jackson
I got this on a whim at a library sale for $2, does anyone have any opinions on it?
>>23511240Hi Moishe
>>23515760It’s out of print from what I know
>>23515190So Irving making up something that isn't in his source is a win to you? Because we have the report with Tauber's testimony that he's referring to, and Tauber never mentions having to stoo or crouch down to get in the gas chamber,https://www.hdot.org/vanpelt/It's clear why Irving quickly changed the subject before his claim could be cross-checked.Irving literally making shit up and you believing it without bothering to check the source, and thinking he made a point for having simply claimed it. You are the quintessential David Irving fan.
>>23515760I’ve read a later version of this and I thought it was really good. The one I got was a lot thicker judging by what you posted, like 800 pages.
>>23515776I was getting mixed messages on it, because it won some award when it came out, and there was a Folio Society reprint, but it's not in print now. Some historian said it "perpetuates and popularizes an outdated view of both African and imperial history.">>23515845It's deceptively thick, mine is like 750 pages.
>>23515760>>23515950No it’s fucking great, goes very deep into the diplomatic minutiae of empire with lots of quotes and references to the letters and documents of the time. That’s not for everyone admittedly, as most of the events in that book are still obscure to the general public, and lots of the most famous statesmen of that time like Joseph Chamberlain, Cecil Rhodes, and Lord Salisbury (let alone the French and German figures) have been somewhat forgotten by non-specialists BECAUSE they were fire breathing imperialists and that’s not very kosher to teach the kids nowadays is it, and hey in any case it’s a very long time ago. There’s still plenty of war and plunder and shit but that merely is the final result of the amount of diplomatic work that goes on the background, and I think Pakenham does a great job with both topics. I suspect what’s in vogue with modern historians are narratives of oppression and highlighting unheard voices or whatever, and that’s simply not what the purpose of Pakenham’s book is. It’s to show how the colonial empires in Africa were made and that necessitates spending a lot of time in the colonial offices of Europe by design. What also sticks in their craws I imagine is the lack of editorialization on the authors part, no we don’t need someone to point out how racist something is every other paragraph. The facts are presented and I think you can decide for yourself. Highly recommend, if nothing else it’s a fascinating picture of realpolitik played on the world stage by some of the most remarkable and self-confident statesmen of the 19th century when Europe was at its height and not a single other power in the world could tell them no
>>23515950>Some historian said it "perpetuates and popularizes an outdated view of both African and imperial history."Africans will never be civilized by their own accord. This is just facts.
>>23516048Is there any other book that also touches on the subject?
>>23516167The other one I can find is Divide and Rule: The Partition of Africa, 1880–1914 by Henk Wesseling. Apparently an English translation of it came out 6 months before The Scramble for Africa came out, but was overshadowed by it. I can't speak to if it's good or not.
>>23516944Also out of print tooVery well then, how about some good economic histories of the antebellum south?
>>23511240Didn't he recant his beliefs recently?
>>23507522Agree completely. Reading up on some primary sources from this era has been very enlightening, particularly the writings of soldiers.
recommendations for good books on rhodesia?
HiI'm looking for two books if any has an ideaOne on the subject of holy Roman empire durint the X-XV century and one one on Guelfs and ghibellins or possibly italia as a whole but focused on events, political movements, geopolitics during the same period as above.Can read in Italian. Thank you very much.
I am once again asking for books about the foundation of Israel and accounts from all sides
This book was pretty good up until the last chapters when it discussed his legacy. You can tell the author is talking about things she didn’t do any research on because she makes easy factual errors. One was calling Martin Luther a Dominican monk when he was an Augustinian monk. There were a few others as well. The publisher of the book, pen and sword books did a terrible job printing the book or the author didn’t proofread it. There were multiple spelling errors in the later chapters.
>>23504798Any good books on Israel's history, especially the creation of the state in 1948, conflicts with Palestinians, Six day war, Yom Kippur war etc.?
>>23518543>>235186011948: A History of the First Arab-Israeli War by Benny Morris
>>23518543>>23518601Don't listen to >>23518895Read 'A Threat from Within: A Century of Jewish Opposition to Zionism' by Yakov M. Rabkin and 'The Stern Gang' by Joseph Heller.
>>23504798Great painting by Leutze.
>>23515454This is an English language board.
Twelve Caesarshttps://standardebooks.org/ebooks/suetonius/the-lives-of-the-caesars/j-c-rolfe
>>23515760>>23515845>>23516048In a book review for The Journal of African History, historian Tony Hopkins wrote, "Pakenham has written a book that contributes nothing of significance to our understanding of the scramble. More damagingly, the work perpetuates and popularizes an outdated view of both African and imperial history." According to Hopkins, Pakenham's work is largely based on primary source documents written by the "blunderers and plunderers" themselves without critical analysis of the accuracy, biases, or self-serving motives of his sources. Hopkins also criticised Pakenham's use of artistic license to make inferences and embellish events without supporting evidence.
Reading picrel in preparation for 1848 by Michael Rapport
>>23519031Ah yes, Leutze, the French cousin of Lao Tzu.
>>23504798I want to read the Alex Jones version.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgq7M7-db0w
>>23504798
I'm looking for books about commie china post unification, politics, economy and in general it's history during second half '900any suggestion?
I have heard from multiple sources (none of them German), that if you cannot understand German, you cannot understand history because the greatest and most clear-thinking historians in history lived in Germany from around 1840-1920.Is there any truth to this? On a related note, I am not aware of any good history written in Russian (good meaning "better than a similar work written in a Western language). Any recommendations in Russian?
>>23523245If you're interested in a memoir, China in 10 Words is a very interesting, charming book by Yu Hua about the life of normal people during and after the cultural revolution, and gives a very vivid picture of the what the actual reality of the politics, economy, etc looked like from the perspective of an actual Chinese person. I've found myself repeatedly returning to it over the years - it's a little hard to describe what is so interesting and pleasant about it because, superficially, it's just a somewhat basic memoir (other than the conceit of using 10 Chinese political concepts as the jumping-off point to tell each of its 10 little illustrative episodes), but I've recommended it to about a half a dozen people and everyone else came away similarly charmed/impressed.
>>23523320>china in 10 wordsLooks interesting, i'll give it a readthanks anon
I'm looking for stuff like pic related, african history post colonial, anything close?
>>23504798Any good histories of esotericism, gnosticism, fiorism, etc?I am not interested in how they have politically challenging spiritualities, I'm interested in the sectarianism and alchemy and the crazy shit Also, if I have such leeway, I prefer old school more literary history ala Trevor Roper and old Anglican historians of Christianity who had a bit of wit to them
>>23520181>libtard kvetching about biassounds like a great endorsement then
>>23520181Wouldn't want a reader to come up with their own opinions.
>>23515760this is pretty good. some sections can get tedious but he is really good at the "on the ground" things that were happening with european, arabs, africans etc..i recommend it
>>23525668>>23526822What anon posted is just a copy paste from the book’s Wikipedia page too. Just disregard it. I thought it was a fascinating and detailed book. The Anthony guy is probably upset Pakenham tells the truth about the mad max and kenshi type shit Africans were up to before colonization, like roaming bands Africans who were brutal slavers for Arabs and cannibal tribes in the Congo.
>>23510105>Goldberg
What's the consensus on Shelby Foote and his Civil War Narrative trilogy? I'm considering reading it as I saw it for a good price at a used book store.
>>23527197Holy shit, it gets posted in every single one of those threads. Just look in any of the previous ones and you get enough opinions about it, its a very famous series of books Also, burger friend, there is more to history then endless books about muh civil war, muh ww2, muh american presidents. Its nice to be interested in ones own history, but try to look beyond your own nose and you might actually learn something new one day
>>23527197It's a great read, Bruce Catton and Foote are both worth reading if you want a big comprehensive history.
>>23525638
Any recommendations for English history, particularly anything related to London?
>>23525638You also might like this even if it’s slightly unrelated. I actually finished it but don’t remember much about it.
>>23522770I should get that.
Are there any books on the topic of "Great Men"? Like Napoleon and Caesar?
>>23529544Yes, there are many books about Hitler
Any good book about the reformation?
>>23504798Reading picrel right now, wonder if there’s any other books on renaissance Italy besides the one Jakob Burkhardt wrote
>>23529616Allegedly this
>>23504798Looking for a book on the development of American economy throughout history
>>23504798what are the best books on various religious military orders like the templars and the knights hospitaller?
>>23520181Tony Hopkins sounds like a little bitch
>>23531218I got this
Anyone else just enjoy history as a 'genre' of literature?I've had a couple attempts at actually studying history as part of my Classics degree, and while my interest in the subject matter is undiminished I've repeatedly found myself loathing the methodology of actual history as a discipline.Basically, I greatly enjoy reading Herodotus as a piece of literature, but thoroughly dislike taking a step back and having to dissect disinterestedly the work looking only for what is relevant to some particular question, and doing the same with a dozen other pieces of literature. In a way, there's something about doing that which feels profane.
>>23531218Anything by Malcolm Barber on the Templars is basically the standard>>23531332I know what you're getting at. To me one of that fun parts of history is trying to work together arguments and think about it, but I have to be reading it for fun in the first place. I'm doing Classics right now, alongside a longer more boring STEM degree and I just think of it more as geting an in depth look at one or two topics per course, I do enjoy just sitting down and reading what I please to be more fun but in the end writing essays is really just a very extended version of a part of history I enjoy.
>>23531332I can’t understand how you do it. I’m autistic I have to analyze everything
>>23531508I might of got it. I let go of my 'hold' and just assumed it was spoken. Expect us. Maybe not. Followed.
>>23523245Books by Yang Jisheng:Tombstone - Covers The Great Leap ForwardThe World Turned Upside Down - Covers the Cultural Revolution
>>23531508It's not that I don't analyse, but that I analyse as I would reading any piece of literature. How the author of history uses rhetorical style to present their narrative is what I analyse and enjoy, not whether I can parse out facts from the narrative.
>>23531790Yeah I’m the opposite honestly
>>23504798How good are the Men-at-Arms book series? I'm feeling very tempted to buy half a dozen of them
>>23532471I’ve heard good things about them but I’m more of an economic and political history guy and not too much into military history. They do overlap quite a bit but I’d imagine these books have a singular focus.
>>23532495Yes, they are essentially picture books with history of the units they analyze as well as full color drawings of their period uniform
>>23531508>autistic doesnt exist. You are just retarded
>>23532561>he types this, while on 4chanI guess that makes two of us then, huh?
>>23533226Yes brother. We will never be lonely on this site for we got our frens :)
>>23532471Honestly, unless you're into reenactment, are a game designer, film maker, animator, really need help visualizing events even general, or just view history as a super minor interest you have no intent to truly dive into, they're pretty wanting in information.
>>23532471Usually good enough introductions to whatever they are about but if you wanted more you're going to have to look elsewhere.
>>23533853Well, I'm lookingfor one to reference about the WWI sturmtruppen to read along Storm of Steel, and maybe of some obscure unit. From what I gather they are essentially picture books then?
Is there an academic review of Procopius' The Secret History?
>>23525638Hereward Tilton wrote a great book about Rosicrucianism and Alchemy in the Work of Count Michael Maier where he gives much space to the Rosicrucian movement and refuted Principe's thesis that spiritual alchemy was a 19th century phenomenon. Really great book.
>>23530088There is a big book about the Renaissance I want to read called Renaissance Complete but there is no pdf online.
>>23535038So I kinda autistically found a scan of this book because of this post and put the images into a pdf, but it's like 800 MB
>>23517393No
>>23536604So there is no way I can download it?
>>23537035Sorry, I wanted to look for ways to shrink it without losing quality, but I got busy with something else. Unless you're okay with a huge file then I just need a decent way to share it
>>23537118I'm okay with a huge file if there is no better alternative. But I don't need it right now, where can I download it when it's ready?
>>23537121libgen when I'm done and they approve it I think, unless you have something you prefer
>>23537155Libgen is fine, thank you.
Captain James Cook>James Cook, born in 1728, was one of the most celebrated men of his time, the last and the greatest of the romantic navigator/explorers. His voyages in the Royal Navy to the eastern and western seaboards of North America, the North and South Pacific, the Arctic, and the Antarctic brought a new understanding of the worlds geography and of the peoples, flora, and fauna of the lands he discovered.
>>23529544Yes there are many books about Napoleon and Caesar, if you can’t manage to find even one of them that suits you I’m not optimistic about your prospects of being included among them
>>23537181What was meant was the topic of Great Men. Like a historical or philosophical analysis of the archetype.
Newfag here, is this a good reading order for a beginner interested in ancient greek and roman empire?If I went further down on the list the more I wouldn't lose from skipping the work because I've already covered the more famous ones?>Plutarch>Herodotus>Livy>Tacitus>Xenophon>Caesar>Cato>Polypolus>Josephus>Sallust>Eusebius>Ammianus>SuetoniusAlso who would you recommend for the later stages of rome for a historian from a close time period?I'm not going further to history of HRE or Byzantine but maybe stop around the time of Byzantine invasion to Italy maybe?
>>23537472>is this a good reading order for a beginner interested in ancient greek and roman empire?Not really. Plutarch is good for a recap who works better once youre familar with the people he talks about imo since he likes to compare the greek with romans.Chronology the order is Herodotus->Thucydides!>Xenophon's Hellenika (and his Anabasis to understand what partly inspired Alexander)->Arrian!That covers the beginning of greek and Mediterranean states to the demise of Alexander. Get the landmarks edition of these and you will be all set. Then Polybius who covers the punic wars which establishes the hegemony of Rome. Im unsure who comes next, but should give you plenty to read before you figure that out.
I'm looking for a book that focuses on the general situation in China between 1900-1950, any suggestions?
WW2:John Toland's The Rising SunAnthony Beeveor's Berlin: The Downfall 1945Sledge's With the Old BreedWW1:The Guns of August>>23516048kek>>23523245Deng Xiaoping and the Transformation of China>>23508552gonna get this, thanks for the rec>>23504798sound great thanks
>>23537897Stilwell and the American Experience in China, 1911–45 by Barbs
>>23515776check amazon they have tons of new copies and reprints
>>23537472I've done this project myself and this is the order I did it in>Herodotus>Plutach's Athenians>Thucydides>Xenophon>Plutarch's Hellenistic lives>Diodorus >Arrian>Plutarchs Early Romans>Livy 1-10>Polybius>Livy 20-45>Rest of Plutarch's Romans>Appian's civil wars>Sallust>Cassius Dio 36-40>Caesar >Suetonius>Cassius Dio on Augustus>Tacitus' works>JosephusFrom this point onwards large historical chronicles don't cover continuously. It's basically Cassius Dio and the Historia Augusta alongside minor Epitome's which just use them as sources. They may not seem important if you're don't know much but Appian and Diodorus are both pretty important, and very enjoyable sources. Out of all the Greeks I enjoyed Diodorus the most other than Thucydides. I like having the lives like Plutarch and Suetonius before getting into a subject manner because they are fun and short enough and helps get yourself more grounded for the longer ones.>Also who would you recommend for the later stages of rome for a historian from a close time period?Shit out of luck, unless you use smaller obscure historians like Marcelianus Comes it comes from multiple different sources including Gregory of Tours, who is just quoting a lost historian and Procopius
>>23504798History of the economic impact of wars?
Ive just finished American Ceasar - William Manchester. I enjoyed the book for the most part. I'm a fan of Manchester's style but the end of the korean war did not get the same level of detail that I was expecting of such a tome. MacArthur's plan to seed a belt of radioactive cobalt and his thoughts on nukes were the subjects that i was most interested in learning about but they were summed up and dismissed within a half page.I've already read two other Manchester works, The Arms of Krupp and of course the 3 volume Winston Churchill biography.I picked up Euclid's Window, a history of geometry, as a palate cleanser until I can decide on another historical direction. I'm leaning towards a biography of FDR but I want to find the right one. I'm also very interested in midcentury techological advancements and nuclear history. I re-read The Making of the Atomic Bomb - Richard Rhodes this year and would love any reccs that are in that vein.
>>23538794I put this into chatgpt and it have me a list of reccs>Franklin D. Roosevelt: A Political Life - Robert Dallek>Dark Sun: The Making of the Hydrogen Bomb - Richard Rhodes>Command and Control: Nuclear Weapons, the Damascus Accident, and the Illusion of Safety - Eric Schlosser>The Man Who Knew Infinity: A Life of the Genius Ramanujan - Robert Kanigel>The Wizards of Armageddon - Fred Kaplan>The Coldest Winter: America and the Korean War - David Halberstam>The Path Between the Seas: The Creation of the Panama Canal, 1870-1914 - David McCullough>The Guns of August - Barbara Tuchman>The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich - William L. Shirer>Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln - Doris Kearns Goodwin
>>23538794Six months in 1945 by Michael Dobbs and The Korean War by Max Hastings is something you might enjoy.
>>23538851 you are the 3rd person to recommend that Max Hastings book so I'm going to definitely pick that one up. thanks anon
>>23538794Have you read The American Prometheus?
>>23538869No I have not. The Making of the Atomic Bomb dedicates a substantial portion to outlining Oppenheimer's life though. If i were to read a scientist's biography I would like to search for a Leo Szilard, Neils Bohr, Von Neumann. Often times though the lives of individual scientists pales in comparison the collaborations they have with others
>>23538868I'm glad I could help, enjoy.
>>23504798Any good history books originally written in French? Could be any topic
>>23539233Fernand Braudel is a /lit/ approved historian. Maybe he has made a work or two that might interest you.
Can anyone recommend a good book about the Cuban Missile Crisis? I'm currently looking into Thirteen Days by RFK and One Minute to Midnight by Michael Dobbs.
>>23537720>>23538454thanks a lot anons really appreciated your helpmy interest in history got kindled recently after reading some plutarch because of how entertaining it was to read very ancient tales from the perspective of someone who is also very ancient by todays standardsthe way of writing and vocabulary is also simple and direct along with how it's conveyed like a spoken tale that the storyteller gathered from different people over the years and he's telling them to me like a friend or family member so I can pass it on to the next generation myselfsometimes they are like epics with larger than life heroes doing amazing things with help of gods (maybe wink wink)sometimes the wife of the emperor is having a sex contest with a prostitute to see who can take more cock as an obvious slander (maybe also true who knows wink wink)maybe modern historians I tried reading were more serious in their works for scientific accuracy or tried to insert their modern politics to older time periods but the modern lens is very irritating for my taste regardless of the historians bias
>>23504798This requires a serious investment but the 7 volume biography on George Washington by Douglass Southall Freeman is one of the greatest reading experience you'll ever have. Freeman is a incredible writer with evocative prose and a terrific sense of narrative. He's also a brilliant historian who spent decades collecting the primary sources on Washingtons life. Reading him is a unique experience where you are reading someone who his both a master artist and master scholar.
>>23514047John Keegan's book "Battle at Sea" is great at showing how naval warfare has changed in the last few hundred years
>>23539335I’m actually reading a book by him right now though I fail to understand how a recession could happen in a prosperous period like the renaissance
>>23505016Hitler and Russia by Trumbull Higgins
>>23538765Still waiting on this…
>>23518543Benny Morris is your best bet
>>23538794I hate the point he's making in the book, that the creation of the atomic bomb was inevitable, that it was all determinism and nothing could be done about it. There are a lot of regular people who would throw it all down the garbage and there would be no Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Tockoje, Operation Teapot, Bikini Atoll. People who are in charge and some scientists are immoral scumbags and it's time to stop pretending otherwise.
Looking for a book on the history of magic
>>23537720>>23538454I forgot to ask if I should read mythologies like>homer>virgil>ovidetc just for context before I start to read ancient greece chronologically I only have basic normalfag knowledge on myths so would it be beneficial to get the full picture in actual history when they keep referencing it on occasions?
>>23540996They're not really necessary None of the historians really believed in these stories, in the case of the Latin poets, neither did theyTheir ideals are not really the same either The poets are actually more useful if you want to read the medieval and early modern historians because they draw on them for literary inspiration and ideals>>23538794Traitor to his class is imo the best FDR biography because Brands kinda thinks like FDR did so you get a kind of autobiography by proxy I wouldn't take him seriously on much else though
>>23540996No. It almost never comes up in histories other than the vague sense of divine providence. Even Plutarch just states the 'historical' version of myths basically in full for those lives covers.
>>23540962Julius Evola has one. I haven't read it though and not sure it's what you're looking for.
>>23541035>>23541117thank you anons very much again for your kind help
>>23541129I’m looking for just an objective history from the Stone Age to the present.
>>23504798According to ChatGPT for early American history up until the end of ww2 of what I have this is the suggested reading listAdding "An Economic Interpretation of the Constitution of the United States" by Charles Beard will enhance your understanding of the economic motivations behind the framing of the U.S. Constitution. Here's the revised reading order:1. **"The Barbarous Years: The Peopling of British North America: The Conflict of Civilizations, 1600-1675" by Bernard Bailyn** - Start with this to understand the early encounters and conflicts in America.2. **"Changes in the Land: Indians, Colonists, and the Ecology of New England" by William Cronon** - Continue with this to delve into the ecological impacts of colonization.3. **"The Rise of American Civilization" by Charles and Mary Beard** - Follow with this comprehensive work to get a broad overview of American history and major themes.4. **"The Origins of American Politics" by Bernard Bailyn** - Explore the development of political structures and ideologies in early America.5. **"An Economic Interpretation of the Constitution of the United States" by Charles Beard** - Read this to understand the economic motivations behind the framing of the U.S. Constitution, complementing the political context from the previous book.6. **"Empire for Liberty: A History of American Imperialism from Benjamin Franklin to Paul Wolfowitz" by Richard H. Immerman** - Understand the evolution of American foreign policy and imperialism.7. **"The Battle of Bretton Woods: John Maynard Keynes, Harry Dexter White, and the Making of a New World Order" by Benn Steil** - Look into the mid-20th century economic history and the Bretton Woods system.8. **"Founding Finance: How Debt, Speculation, Foreclosures, Protests, and Crackdowns Made Us a Nation" by William Hogeland** - Gain insight into the financial foundations of the United States.9. **"Wilderness and the American Mind" by Roderick Frazier Nash** - Conclude with reflections on the cultural and philosophical perceptions of wilderness in America.This sequence provides a solid historical foundation, deep insights into political and economic motivations, and a comprehensive understanding of America's development.
>>23542030>According to ChatGPTStopped reading there. I don't want a summary pulled from reddit midwits and twatter buffoons. You do realize that's the sort of data all that is built on, right?
>>23541035>They're not really necessary>None of the historians really believed in these stories, in the case of the Latin poets, neither did theynot really true. Leonidas considered himself to be a descendant of Heracles, for example.
>>23541471black people bad, whites good
>>23504798Good histories on Canada or Canadian politics or whatever?
>>23542063I get it, I'm not using it as a summary, I'm actually reading the books, dumbfuck. and forming my own opinions.
why are there no good english language books on the huguenots/french wars of religion?
>>23542083>Leonidas considered himself to be a descendant of Heracles, for example.Bad example, since Leonidas was a king being talked about it by Herodotus who tries to be impartial. I would say that reading things like Homer is a good aid to understand Plato and greek culture, but not needed to understand its historical developments.
>>23542146Of magic, dude…
>>23540962>>23542718>magicHow do you define this?You mean occult practices?
Is this book any good?
>>23542790Generally yeah
>>23510152I wish I could find out about Project Gutenberg for the first time again.
>>23540049>George Washington by Douglas Southall FreemanJames Thomas Flexner is also a great read.
>>23543321I have it but haven’t cracked it open yet
>>23543394How come there are so many books on Washington in the same series?I've read Roberts' Napoleon The Great and was satisfied, I especially liked the esoteric content. Any similar books?I'm looking for a biography of Joan of Arc that deals on depth with her spirituality and her relationship with Gil de Rais.Then I need also a biography of Sir Francis Bacon that touches on his religious and esoteric beliefs.Lastly I'm looking for an academic review of Procopius' Secret History that compares his claims with other sources.Any recommendations?
>>23542030I don't get people who read books are really broad historical subjects, the the histories of a nation or a large, multi-theater war.To me history books are for the minor events that prevent more detail. I would rather read a book about one particular battle or raid than a book covering an entire large scale war, since the latter is bound to leave out details.
>>23543766To each their own I guess.On another topic I’ve asked for at least three recommendations in this thread with precisely 0 answers. This is why I just use ChatGPT for talking about books these days because people would rather ignore me than do what I ask of them.
>>23544371Narcissist, by all means go and stay with your sycophant of an ai. Youre polluting this solitary bastion of tranquility with your presence
>>23543321>>23543440I didn't enjoy it. The author inserts himself into the story a lot, and a lot of the book is him saying "And then I interviewed this guy and I thought his story didn't add up" and reflecting on his personal feelings.
>>23540191Wasn't necessary prosperous after 1450 if i recall well what i've gathered because population getting back to levels they were before plague hitted them.Also it wasn't that peaceful so with wars you've got the triad :Loot, Malnutrition, Sickness. Pair that with some metereological problems and you can easily see how it can be problematic.+ inflation throughout the XVIcentury+religions wars+inter-communal wars in ItalyHe probably explain it tho i just made my own conclusions but it doesn't surprise me Renaissance would be a shitty period for the commoner if you stop seeing this period through the lens of Letters's republicIf you're interested by that kind of history, you could also check la mémoire des paysans, it's mostly anthologies from private sources who talk about daily lives, huge anthology when it comes to climate and the consequences on prices and on people.Bonne lecture ;)
Any good books on Victorian nobility? Avoiding crybaby bias pls.
>>23544787Well didn’t things even out by 1530 at the latest?
>>23544478Absolutely nothing wrong with being a narcissist. You just have a poor relationship with yourself. I feel bad for you.
>>23529527any answer will be appreciated
>>23529527>>23545225Here are books I haven’t gotten yet, but are on my reading list based on what other anons have said (dollar amounts are estimates based on paperback copies because I’m hoping loved ones will get me some of these books as presents so ignore it if you want):The Anglo-Saxon Age by D J V Fisher ($25)With Zeal and Bayonets Only: the British Campaign in North America, 1775–1783 by Matthew H. Spring ($24.95)William the Conqueror by David Bates (Yale English Monarchs Series) ($25)Henry I by C. Warren Hollister (Yale English Monarchs Series) ($25)Henry the Young King: 1155-1183 (Yale English Monarchs Series) by Matthew Strickland ($19.29)Henry III: the Rise to Power and Personal Rule, 1207-1259 (volume 1) and Henry III: Reform, Rebellion, Civil War, Settlement, 1259-1272 (volume 2) by David Carpenter These are two books ($23 + $40)The English and the Norman Conquest by Ann Williams (~$25)The Struggle for Mastery: The Penguin History of Britan, 1066-1284 by David Carpenter ($18)King John: England’s Evil King by Ralph V. Turner (~$17.44)I’m currently reading Short Oxford History of the British Isles by Paul Langford. It’s pretty good and interesting. Only a couple hundred pages though.Off the top of my head, I read Orientalism: How the British Saw Their Empire by David Cannadine (I think). It was a short read but interesting. It focused on what the title says. I’d recommend it. I can’t think of others off the top of my head right now because I’m not home and away from my bookshelf. I’ll post more when I can. Most of the books I’ve read are about the British Isles more generally rather than just England, but I’ll post applicable ones I thought were good. I just can’t remember right now. Give me like 6 hours.
>>23545307See, this is why I knew to ask here. This is perfect, thank you. Definitely post here with your opinions on the books.
>>23529527I haven't read anything London specific but here's a list of English history stuff I've read and liked >Thomas Cranmer and Thomas Cromwell by Diarmaid MacCullochExcellent biographies. He knows the historical context quite well and can empathise more deeply with his characters than most of your usual historians. He also has good writing skills which is a rare gift among historians>English Literature in the 16th Century by C.S LewisThe historical introduction in the beginning is, in my opinion, the single greatest chapter of history written last century. It's such an elegant, colourful, emphatic and fun account of 16th century sentiments. When he goes through a lot of people we have largely forgotten, it can be a bit of a slog but Lewis the historian is simply incredible. Also, read his preface to paradise lost which is not a history book but has some English history discussion in it.>Marc Morris' stuffMuch more standard historian than MacCulloch or Lewis and an inferior writer but still topnotch, fun and informative, informative on anything he writes>the Armada by Garrett MattinglyThis book is both Spanish and British history but it's so good, like read it before the other stuff, it's short, sweet and will make you have lower tolerance for how most historians write>David Starkey stuffI'd like to think I've spread the list pretty evenly between rightoids and leftoids but here's a man who loves the monarchy and loves writing about how it evolved and functioned throughout the years with passion and elegance >George III by Andrew RobertsVery fun and informative book, worth the length IMHO>Charles Dickens by G.K ChestertonThis is not really a history book but it's not really historical fiction either, it is a chestertonised account of Dickens and Dickensian England. It's just a lovely book, it will probably get you to think differently about everything else rather than England
>>23546360Just read Carlyle's biography of Frederick the Great instead of this pop history slop
>>23545349>>23545307I’m back, like I promised. Here are books on English history that I’ve actually read and would recommend:>The Butcher: The Duke of Cumberland and the Suppression of the ‘45 by W.A SpeckIt’s about the Scottish Jacobite Rising of 1745 but from an English and loyalist perspective. I thought it was good, but it misses out on much of the story of 1745 because it deliberately focuses on the Government’s perspective. I wouldn’t recommend it unless youve read something else about the ‘45 already>England Under the Tudors by G. R. EltonPretty good book covering the Tudor period. It’s an older book and a bit dry with long parts about the evolution of government and law at the time, but I’d recommend it. Love me queen bess an’ big ‘enry.>Who’s who in Roman Britain and Anglo-Saxon England by Richard FletcherThis one is kind of mid because of its style. It’s a series of big biographical essays with a lot of them being about important clergymen, and women. It’s alright as an overview of the pre-Norman period. It’s a bit pop history-esq, but it’s hard to find books on the period.>To Rule the Waves: How the British Navy Shaped the Modern World by Arthur HermanThis one was surprisingly good, well written, and engaging. It’s scope is larger than England, obviously because it’s about the British navy but also because it mentions naval advancements and achievements of other nations and what it was like to be on a naval vessel across the board. It was very interesting. It covers the English navy in 1500s to the British navy of the modern day.>The Hundred Years War: The English in France, 1337-1453 by Desmond SewardPretty basic rundown of the Hundred Years’ War, but I would recommend it.>The Great Hunger: Ireland, 1845-1849 by Cecil Woodham-SmithThis book is about Ireland but also very much about the British/English management of the crisis. I would highly recommend this book to anyone interested in the history of the isles because there are so many misconceptions about the famine. It’s an even that effects everyone there. It also talks about Irish migration to NE England.I haven’t read these books, but I have them and they look good. The first one might especially be of interest to you:>A History of London by Robert GrayIt’s more than 400 pages and it seems to have a lot of good detail. It’ll be one of my next books.>The English Civil War by Diane PurkissI don’t know much about this book other than it gets recommended sometimes as a good overview of the English civil war.Most of these are books I got at thrift stores, so that’s why some of them are older.
>>23545307>Henry the Young King: 1155-1183 (Yale English Monarchs Series) by Matthew Strickland ($19.29)>Henry III: the Rise to Power and Personal Rule, 1207-1259 (volume 1) and Henry III: Reform, Rebellion, Civil War, Settlement, 1259-1272 (volume 2) by David Carpenter>These are two books ($23 + $40)These two were asbolute kino. My favourite biographies of all time. You might of got it from my recommendations since I sing their praises whenever I can>>23545349For the two I said up there. They act as good introductions to the period they cover while following somebody and I found pretty engaging. Henry the Young King feels pretty short for a Yale Kings biography but it's just packed with stuff and I think you get a real sense of Henry and the world he lived in, with his father Henry II, his brothers and France. Henry III is a lot more dense and covers basically everything you could ever want for the man and his reign, there are a few topical chapters which cover more than just Henry III himsellf. It's a biography that really gripped me and I basically did nothing but read it when I was into it.
I'm looking for a book that is about the secrecy during the American Revolutionary period, I think it was published by TrineDay. Basically said it was all done in secret and the people involved were lying or distorting events in new papers via the Boston committee on correspondents. Anyone know?
>>23540934It absolutely was inevitable. Its possible to make, so we are gonna make it. Americans, British, Russians, Japanese, and German physicists ALL knew the same thing.
any good books on the Genpei War (aside from the Tale of Heike)
Anyone have any literature that give a decent breakdown of the ideological differences between the Girondans and the Montagnards? Why did the alliance between the two break down? The whole book doesn’t have to be about the ideological differences, but if anyone knows a paper or say, a chapter to a book devoted to this field I would appreciate it
Started this today. I've been looking forward to reading JJN, his writing really is lovely.
>>23547234It probably was you. I got a lot of those biography recs from a bookshelf thread or something like that.
>>23550230His book on the papacy was what showed me as a kid that non-fiction could be captivating and tremendously expanded my literary horizons. I recommend him to other people because of that.
Once again asking for good books on Canadian history, from the foundation to today
>>23546360Mediocre biography desu >>23546585Are you sure it's good? It's very old and may he outdated.
>>23551461Read some books by Pierre Berton, his writings on the war of 1812 are especially good.
>>23504798I'm looking for a good book about Russian civil war between whites and reds, would you guys rather recommend Antony Beevor or Richard Pipes?
Best book on the Vietnam War?
>>23553345Dispatches by Michael Herr
>>23553262Richard Pipes and Orlando Figes
>>23504798>/History/May I get some recommendations for Agricultural History Books? I've read everything by Jared Diamond, "A History of Food" by Maguelonne Toussaint-Samat, and "An Edible History of Humanity" by Tom Standage, and have quietly realized this is not only my favorite history topic, but also that agriculture has become the lens in which I can actually understand and contextualize historical events.
>>23553453Nature's Evil has chapters on agriculture
>>23553453I just started The Little Ice Age by Brian Fagan. I’ve only finished the first chapter but it talks a lot about agriculture and climate.
>>23523245Making China Modern - Klaus Muhlhahn Was what I used for my Chinese History Class a few years ago. Covers all of China but focuses in on Modern for around half. Class was on Fall of Qing to Modern and we used this book throughout.
>>23546672Woodham-Smith on the famine is great, but can be hard to find. Anybody have a link for an ebook?
>>23553262Beevor is fantastic. Pipes and Figes are not impartial enough, for me.
>>23543710Btw if anyone is interested in the same books as me I found these as sources on Wikipedia which seem to be what I need even if I didn't read them yet.>Evans, The Power Game in Byzantium - Antonina and the Empress Theodora>Barstow, Joan of Arc - Heretic, Mystic, Shaman
Anyone here who studies/studied history (particularly Ancient) and could offer recommendations for technical works on historical methodology? Like how you should go about doing research, make good arguments, etc?
>>23537192Thomas Carlyle’s lecture series. He started the whole great man theory of history.
>>23540962Richard Cavendish The Black Arts
>>23553453Against The Grain
>>23555822John Lewis Gaddis' Landscape of History (helps unhitch your mind when starting to approach history)David Hackett Fisher's Historians' Fallacies (just really good)Gordon Wood's Purpose of the Past (best work on the purpose of the historian)Don Carson's Exegetical Fallacies (written by a conservative NT scholar but great if you're planning on interpreting really old documents)Research is just strategically using Google Scholar, learning the relevant languages and reading primary sources If you plan on doing numismatics or something, find a relevant study and use it as a basis depending on your topic
Hello anons, should I read ancient philosophy as pretext for ancient greece and rome history in general?>aristo>plato>socrates >epicurus + lucretius >epictetus + seneca + marcus aurelius + ciceroI want to understand the leader's decision making process deeply.I am interested in biographical aspect of history in regards to accomplishments and shortcomings of the figures as a lesson for myself.The lectures they took in poetry, history and philosophy would help me understand them a tiny little bit more I hoped.Their rivals and friends also took the same lessons so it makes more sense also in that regard.
>>23553094Okay
>>23555853NTA but historiography is something I’d like to get into
>>23555822I’d recommend theseIn Defense Of History - Richard J. Evans The German Conception Of History - George G. IggersDroysen And The Prussian Scool Of History - Robert SouthardThe Idea Of History - R.G. CollingwoodLectures On Modern History - Lord ActonLectures On World History - GWF Hegel
>>23549736Wanting to know this too
>>23553458>Nature's Evil has chapters on agricultureChecked the summary, this sounds like EXACTLY the sort of book I was looking for. Thanks, Anon. >>23553471>I just started The Little Ice Age by Brian Fagan.I'll check it out. His other book "The Long Summer: How Climate Changed Civilization" also sounds pretty interesting. Thank you, Anon. >>23555852>Against The GrainI actually already recently read this. Against The Grain, Human Impact on Ancient Environments, and Deforesting the Earth: From Prehistory to Global Crisis, An Abridgment < that last one, Deforesting The Earth, I actually really recommend. Interesting book covering the 'history' of deforestation mostly in Europe, North America, and a bit of Brazil.
>>23559104You should also check outNatures Mutiny - Philip BlomGlobal Crisis - Geoffrey Parker
