What did Watts mean by this? Why is there meaning in just being alive? What's the point?
>>23614245To be alive why? because you can experience things if you don't want to experience things then you can kill yourself
It's kind of a shorter way to say what he says in this video, if it'll help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERbvKrH-GC4
he's a retard who's dodging the question because he's afraid to confront the unknown
it's funny how atheist venerate a drug addict
>>23614251Noooo, you can't just enjoy life in all its facets and colors, you have to slave away at some vain goal!
>>23614245Yeah but I want more, “being here” isn’t cutting it.
>>23614245>What did Watts mean by this?Idiot copout. Poor interpretation of Jung.
>>23614255>>23614331Can't you enjoy having goals and moving up in life? I enjoy the process. What does Watts expect you to do otherwise? Just be an author or whatever as a starving artist? From my understanding, he already came from wealth. His advice is great for someone wealthy, but if you're poor you need to escape poverty or life really sucks.>>23614349this
>>23614245Good quote
>>23614245gotta come up with some reason or other not to kill yourself.
>>23614245He’s right. Life should be cherished and celebrated in itself. What you do with it is up to you.
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>>23614260I would say they venerate the ideas he shared and helped them understand as opposed to venerating him as a person. Literature would be lacking a great deal if you removed the work done by alcoholics.
>>23614375You can enjoy it but it is not necessary. An author/starving artist are the least ‘alive’ things you can do as you’re perverting life with the mind - it’s the exact opposite of what he is talking about.
>>23614375thinking u need wealth or to be struggling to experience life is brainlet shit my nigga, get out of here
>>23614245He explains the idea in great detail in several of his talks.One example he uses is music and dancing. When you dance, you're not trying to get from point A to point B, when you play music you're not trying to get to the end of the composition in the most efficient way.So music and dancing are examples of processes that don't have an external goal, they are not means to an end, they are an end in themselves.So he says that life and existence are like that.
>>23614748he's right. it's easy to get filtered by his simplicity because we heuristically expect complex answers to (seemingly) complex questions
>>23614260>an atheist is someone who doesn't conform to meh christcuckery>>23614375I can't tell if you're simply a bugman or an actual neurotic jew. Life isn't meant to be grinded like a videogame.
>>23614245>'uhhh just be alive and live for the moment, trust me'>what did he mean by this?Simply something he'd tell his students before trying to bone them. He was an alcoholic, who cheated on his wife and manipulated his students, telling hippies nihilistic-hedonistic ''JUST BE, YOURE ALREDY PERFECT LOL" shit was him priming them for a drug orgy
>>23614729>perverting life with the mindthe mind is part of life. you are so afraid of it is not even funny.
>>23614930Again, you’re misunderstanding.. which makes sense given your continual misuse of the English language
>>23614864>I can't tell if you're simply a bugman or an actual neurotic jew. Life isn't meant to be grinded like a videogame.why not? videogames are fun.
The degree to which you can experience a good life is determined by genetics and luck.
>>23616127No it depends on the expectations that have been set for you and how they get met.
>>23614349You are Lucifer incarnate
>>23614748What kind of music are we talking about? Tribal? Radio music is definetly designed with a purpose. There is a lot of money and message tied to an art project.
>>23614245>The meaning of life is just to be alive. The meaning of life is to die. The meaning of life is to perfect your body. The meaning of life is to achieve transcendence. The meaning of life is to live with virtue. The meaning of life is to live in accordance with nature. The meaning of life is to live in accordance with god. The meaning of life is to live freely. The meaning of life is suffer and struggle. The meaning of life is to explore. The meaning of life comes from introspection. The meaning of life is A. The meaning of life is B. The meaning of life TAWTESGASDGSDF THE MEANING OF LIFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..........like...please just calm down....just shut up.
The meaning of life is wrap yourself in a warm blanket after a hot shower, take a slice off that chocolate fudge and shitpost till your eyes rock you to a good night's sleep.
problem with this midwit attitude is that to simply be alive sucks cock. so if this is your position then there's no good reason for most people not to just kill themselves
>>23614257This, biggest cope in the history of mankind
>>23616531You missed out the one thing which is actually the meaning of life which is love. Not unconditional love, that’s for the weak. Only love people who deserve it.
>>23616579I was trying to make a point about humans and their tendency to complicate things.
>>23616255Knowing your expectations have been lowered, that it could be better, soils it.
>>23614245I feel like this is one of those things you either get or you don't. You need to have one of those stoner moments, not necessarily while taking drugs, where everything suddenly appears to be inherently significant.
>>23614245If you like the semi-profound dribble of this retard you're ngmi
>>23614245You really can only say shit like this if you live a privileged first world life without any health problems or crippling poverty. In other words, when you live in a society for which countless others have suffered in trying to build it.
>>23614245He meant that the philosophical and scientific pursuit of the One True Purpose of Life is simply a byproduct of a multi-generational trauma that Western civilization has been perpetuating for thousands of years, and he wasn't wrong.That said, cultures that were never traumatized like this (e.g., Asian) fell behind in terms of scientific discovery, technological ingenuity, and artistic originality. Hence why Nietzsche wants MORE suffering, not less, for his disciples.
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>>23614864>Life isn't meant to be grinded like a videogame.I mean... it is if you are into that kind of thing. I think ultimately the quote is for people who let that kind of thinking be the only way to live, and therefore creat anxiety in them to achieve. But some people thrive on that anxiety as an ecstasy rather than a kind of suffering, to which I think Watts would have said "more power to you." Lets not forget that Watts aspired to be a widely renowned orator and teacher, he just didn't let that path cause him suffering.
>>23614375You're on a website that is infested with people who want to demoralise you. Do not waste your time arguing with them.
>>23614245i feel like watts and gaston bachelard are the only people i can listen to when in severe bouts of depression
>>23619107>gaston bachelardwho's this?
>>23614245Yes. The meaning of life is experience.
>>23619133french philosopher who lectures on poetry and memories, architecture and space, but also known for stuff on the philosophy of science. the poetry and architecture stuff - very life affirming if you know frenchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ephpGDIhwIs&list=PLXi8twtuwjjkYJ8cZIorwUclg4prgRRR3&index=1
>>23614245Watts was a charlatan.
>>23614245Contentment is to be found by focusing your attention on the present moment.People who strive after goals are always focused on the future, and never achieve contentment.
>>23614245It is. The purpose of life is life itself. It's a chain reaction going on for the past 3 billion years, and every living creature has the fundamental instinct hard wired into it to survive and reproduce. Everything else is secondary.
>>23614245Watts was an alcoholic charlatan that actual Buddhists saw through.
>>23614748>music and dancing are examples of processes that don't have an external goalOf course they fucking do, are you retarded? You could write entire books about the purposes and goals of music and dance, and I'm sure many have been written.
>>23619681Yeah, I don't understand the analogy either. Obviously, some parts of songs are better than others. You listen through the more boring parts so it builds up to the best part. Same as life. I work hard through the day, so the leisure parts feel better. If I were constantly playing the good part of a song on a loop, it would lose its appeal, but with a yin-yang effect, it's sustainable.If we all listened literally to Watts, we would likely become alcoholics/drug addicts chasing temptation after temptation, which seemed to be what he did, with just enough work in between to sustain his lifestyle.
