It changed my life. It will change yours.
I read Stoner a decade ago and I get worse and more wretched every year. Is that the kind of change you’re talking about?
>>23617439Yes. We are mundane.
>>23617435I never read this and while things arent as good as I'd like theyre arguably better than ever
>>23617446(It can't get no worse)
>>23617445Maybe you are, but I’m depraved
>>23617458What's your biggest problem anon?
>>23617459My toenails and my penis are inverted.
>>23617460You're never serious. Maybe that's the problem.
>>23617459The worst of it is worse than Stoner on his wedding night, we’ll say that.The rest is living in filth and garbage and gambling my parents’ money away, you know, the mundane of the depraved
>>23617468The movement you need is on your shoulder.
>>23617435>how to be a cuck: a novelHard pass desu.
>>23617492Or it could be warning you NOT to be a cuck? He did cheat on his wife also anon
>>23617435boring drivel
>>23617435Bros... I cried so hard at the end...I don't think any other book is able to capture the human experience as well as this one.
>>23617504>>23617579interesting opinion difference
>>23617435I'd go so far as to call it one of the only truly impactful books I've ever read, but you have to be in the right place in your life to appreciate it.
>>23617504this
>>23617435Ghastly rigmarole
>>23617435For the good or bad?
>>23617435>>23617579>>23618943>This book changed my life but I won’t say how or give any specifics on how my life changedReally makes you think
>>23619354Cut off it's head
>>23617435Gave me hope that I could fuck some hot piece of ass when I’m in my 40s.
I saw this post at 7am this morning, I found my dad's copy of the library of America edition of Williams' collected works at roughly 12 and finished Stoner at 4p.m. This book is profoundly depressing, all the more so because my parents are academics and I can imagine that they relate in ways that I would be uncomfortable knowing. I may have to reread the novel. My only real question is whether you think at the end of the novel if Stoner himself considers his life a failure. I think for my own sanity I must imagine that he does not, that there is some sort of satisfaction, fulfillment.
>>23620010"What did you expect?" He doesn't think it's a total failure but he does have his regrets. Ultimately he did what most people aspire to, which is marry and have kids and a somewhat stable, painfree life.
>>23620935The main thing that comes across is unironically Stirnerist (?), and it makes me feel stupid that that's my first impression. The man acts in accordance with social convention at almost every turn, trying to do what is moral or proper, and at every turn it fucks him up, with the one exception being the time he acted truly egoistically and pursued Katherine. That 'what did you expect' is repeated in relation to his failures, specifically of marriage and lack of career advancement, I think advances my point of Stoner's primary failure being not acting egoistically enough. Yes, this includes beating his wife a little into submission, for the sake of his daughter. Yes 'for the sake of his daughter' is still egoistic.
>>23619886She wasn't hot.................
