It takes the noble savage trope a bit too seriously don't you think?Also what is this thing on the cover supposed to be? And what the hell is orgy-porgy? Is it pronounced with a hard g or like orgy with a j sound?Pretty good book overall all things considered.
there's only one savage in it who is reflective and chases nobility, the rest are savage savage
Mustapha Mond did mostly nothing wrong.
>>23629361Huxley's portrayal of John the Savage in "Brave New World" serves as a multifaceted critique of Christianity rather than an endorsement of the noble savage archetype. Through John, Huxley exposes the limitations and potential dangers of rigid religious morality when confronted with a radically different society. John's strict adherence to Christian values and Shakespearean ideals leads to his inability to adapt or find contentment in either the "civilized" world or his native Malpais. His self-flagellation, sexual repression, and eventual suicide can be interpreted as Huxley's commentary on the destructive nature of Christian guilt and self-denial when taken to extremes.Moreover, Huxley brutally skewers Christian ideals, portraying them as archaic, self-destructive, and ultimately futile in the face of societal progress. John's obsession with sin, punishment, and sexual purity is depicted as a form of madness, leading to violent outbursts and self-harm. Huxley seems to mock the concept of religious martyrdom, showing how John's attempts at moral superiority only result in his own misery and isolation. The Savage's inability to reconcile his Christian beliefs with the reality of the World State highlights the impotence of traditional religious values in addressing modern challenges. Far from being a noble savage, John becomes a pathetic figure, destroyed by his own outdated morality and inability to adapt, serving as Huxley's scathing indictment of Christianity's irrelevance in a scientifically advanced society.
>>23629519Holy Based
>>23629519this is Huxley, not Wells. the world of the book is a dystopia that you were retarded enough to misinterpret as a utopia. John is the only sane man present.
>>23630564Sane men don’t whip themselves after getting pussy.
>>23629519On your view then I suppose Saint Francis should have been shipped to some sort of inpatient psychiatric facility after he abandoned his comfortable social status to live in the gutter off of food scraps and alms. I mean and intelligent son of the emerging middle class reduced to living in a hovel, spending all his time trying to rebuild a church—clearly this is a case of pathology. Likely the correct application of psychiatric drugs and therapy could have led him to see his own mental illness, and in turn he could have been brought back in line with sane desires for consumption.
>>23629519I am not reading this blogpost.
>>23630608Christcucks are too emotional to even read a book objectively.
>>23629519Did chat gpt write this? Because chat gpt having this interpretation of Brave New World would be one of the funniest things I've read in a while.
>>23629519Huxley was a luciferian weirdo who purposely misportayed Christianity and made the only semi-noble character into a suicidal strawman.
>>23629519How long did it take you to realize that Anon? For me...decades after reading and living like the noble savage...and moments after reading your post.
The wanting seed is better
>>23629361Yeah it does.>Society just doesn't get it man, the monkey boy understands SHAKESPEARESuper cringe. I actually really disliked this book, one of the most overrated books I've read all the way through. I'd give it a 2/5, being generous.
>>23629519This take is almost as bad as the book
>>23629519John the Savage is a reminder for the modern man:1.) To keep his soul and mystic nature alive through personal experience that are meaningful to us however ordinary(John's recurring visions of that night in the light of the moon with his spirit animal which for him was a significant point for his personhood and becoming)2.) To develop skill through patience - an overlooked and underdeveloped aspect of man, which if one sets it in his mind to have, it must necessarily follow that he learns to be patient with himself and understand his growth of personhood as a long and tedious process but worthwhile(John making a bow and arrow with patient craftiness with his bare hands)3.) To coexist with evil, that pain and suffering and evil are a part of this life and the ebb and flow of life is a perpetual tug of suffering and joy, for one's life to flourish it is necessary that one embraces all misfortunes that happens to him, and that suffering and evil is an ingredient of life, one must realize this and still continue to desire to do good for one's self despite of it all.(John vs Mond dialogue)
>>23633069Your interpretation of John the Savage as a paragon of virtue is nothing but a romanticized delusion. Let's tear this apart with actual evidence from the text:1. John's "mystic nature" is nothing but primitive superstition that cripples him. His obsession with the moon ritual doesn't preserve his soul; it warps his mind. Remember his deranged chanting of "strumpet strumpet" while whipping himself? That's not spiritual growth; it's mental breakdown.2. Praising John's "patience" in crafting a bow is absurd. This isn't noble skill-building; it's pathetic regression. While the World State has conquered disease and poverty, John's busy playing caveman. His refusal to engage with modern society isn't admirable; it's willful ignorance that leads to his isolation and death.3. The idea that John "coexists" with evil is laughable. He doesn't cope; he collapses. His reaction to the World State isn't measured acceptance of life's complexity; it's violent rejection. He assaults Lenina, disrupts the soma distribution, and ultimately hangs himself. That's not embracing life's challenges; it's spectacularly failing to handle them.John's dialogue with Mond doesn't showcase wisdom; it exposes his inability to comprehend a world beyond his narrow morality. Mond systematically dismantles John's arguments, leaving him with nothing but impotent rage and self-destruction.Huxley doesn't present John as an ideal; he's a tragic demonstration of the dangers of clinging to outdated beliefs. His "virtue" doesn't lead to flourishing; it leads to madness and suicide. Far from being a "reminder for modern man," John is a stark warning about the perils of refusing to adapt to progress. His end isn't noble; it's a pathetic whimper of obsolete ideology in the face of an evolved world.
