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Saving up 100k to pay for a surrogate as a single male seems more practically achievable than finding, dating, marrying, and then conceiving with a woman. Even then, the child isn't really yours and can be taken by courts for any pretext. truly rotten and contemptible culture

>>23715062
Some men are just bound to die alone. I'm not saying to give up on creating a family, but to try making a family and not become bitter and misanthropic when it most likely fails; for your sake I hope you win the lottery with this one.

I'm just gonna poop my pants.

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>>23715116
I don't mind dying alone. stopped fearing that years ago. I fear not leaving any mark on the world. To die and have it be like you never existed in the first place, is a truly horrifying thought to me

>>23715053
I wanna spend Christmas in Japan with this chick I know but that would require me to save up around 10k in 4 months. Damn, this doesn't seem possible.

>>23715170
A trip to Japan doesn't cost 10k. What the fuck.

>>23715189
No, but I'd also need to get a passport and I want a good amount of spending money for while I'm there. Even if I needed less (say 5k) I don't know how I'd get that in 4 months.
>Why don't you get a job?
Great point, however, I'd wanna spend at least a month there (there are a lot of places that I wanna visit while I'm there) and no job would let their new employee who's been working there for 4 months just leave for a whole month. I need to find a way to get the money without having to commit to a job, that's where the issue lies.

>>23715210
Just give your notice two weeks before you leave

>>23715210
Just find another job after. What are you a communist son

>/lit/: travel agents for the chronically neet

Fuckin pathetic is right.

>>23715210
What the fuck lifestyle are you expecting to be using the equivalent of 120k a year. The most expensive thing will be a flight and even that isn't that bad. a strong USD makes everything cheaper in japan- Are you expecting to eat out, hit the club, etc every day for a month?

>I don't know how I would get 5k in 4 months
That's like 14 dollars an hour pre-tax. Go work at a warehouse or some shit for 15-17 an hour and stash it. I'm assuming you're some kind of student who doesn't have any real bills yet (Rent, etc) since you implied you don't have a job.

>>23715231
>a strong USD makes everything cheaper in japan
I'm Australian.
>Go work at a warehouse or some shit for 15-17 an hour and stash it.
I would if they'd take me, I've already applied for them.

wwoym threads were so much better 5-6 years ago. now its just a shitpost.

seriously, why did this happen?

>>23715261
People don't care about this site anymore.

>>23715189
I spent about 8k for three weeks personally last year between lodging and plane tickets. Just for christmas would be significantly less.

Make my bub bubs bounce

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Found my waifu

>>23715261
I can’t decide if wwoym is part of the problem of /lit/ or more emblematic of it. Either way it’s hard to care anymore or put in effort. Despite the anonymity everyone feels more or less the same and interchangeable. If you’ve been here a week in the past few years you’ve seen 98% of what /lit/ has to offer; it’s boring, repetitive, uncreative, and largely off topic

>>23715305
This girl was raped by a black guy or will eventually end up fucking one. The few girls I’ve known who were outspokenly racist each ended up hooking up with a black guy at some point. I suppose there is some type of self hatred or humiliation or breaking a taboo that gets them off

I don't wanna work at fast food but it's probably the only job I'll get.

>>23715116
>Some men are just bound to die alone
This is true, but it's really hard to accept if you have the same biological urges to meet a nice girl and start a family as everyone else.

>>23715326
Weird projection but okay

men are retarded

>>23715463
Do you have squishy boobies?

>>23715463
I want to nibble your nipples

>>23715463
show me your butthole

>>23715463
Licky licky booby, yummy yummy.

KFC application is asking me what team stuff I do for fun, brother, I don't do any team stuff, I just read and watch movies.

I hate /clg/ so much. I hate that jannies allow it on /lit/

>>23715562
Just lie

>>23715562
You should say that and also add that you post on 4chan

After my parents divorced my mom became fond of talking about just how much her kids mean to her. She’s say it over and over again and insist upon it. Eventually, it became obvious to me that it was a sort of a cope, a lie basically, a “me thinks thou doth protest too much” type deal. The reason she insisted it is because she knew deep down it wasn’t true. But the terrible truth was too difficult to face. Either she had nothing, or herself first and foremost. Now that I’m an adult I can say with certainty it’s the latter and all I want is to resolve to not put the same burden of knowing such a thing in my own kids. I genuinely don’t know what it’s like to have good and loving parents who care about you at least as much as they care about themselves, but I want my own kids to know that.

>>23715562
It’s nuts that KFC assesses people for fit now. This modern disaster can’t end soon enough. People need their dignity back.

>>23715062
Raising kids on your own as a man isn’t practical

>>23715584
They're also asking why I want to work at KFC (which is a pretty normal question for a potential employer to ask) and how my friends would describe me (why the fuck do they care?

>>23714960
Social scientists are the worst, but they’re all terrible. They’re just the biggest faggots IRL. I’ve met dozens of them through work, maybe hundreds. I can seriously count on one hand the number that weren’t insufferable midwits or pricks. Staff and admin hate them as well. They have this weird group think culture as well that is strangely reminiscent of the R*ddit upvote-downvote sustem and never has there been a less self aware group of people. They all pay lip service to academic freedom and yet dogma is so affirmed in academia it’s insane. If you challenge it in any way especially if you challenge it in such a way that you more not affirming their status as the top caste in academia (as if anyone cares) their wires cross and they get hostile. Just dog shit human beings really. I think something happens where they get their bubble burst between undergraduate and becoming a professor and it makes them all bitter and resentful or group-minded prestige whores.

>>23715590
Idk man. Shit is fucked. You gotta game it. Just tell them what they want to hear. Some 98 IQ manager is looking for responses regional trained him to look for. Once I realized that there are literally right and wrong answers on applications like a test, applying for easier for me.

>I could work mowing lawns, that's heaps easy.
>They require me to be able to drive.
>Damn.

>Can't drive because I don't have a car.
>Can't get a car because I don't have any money.
>Don't have any money because I don't have a job.
>Don't have a job because no one will hire me.
>Even if a car magically appeared in my driveway I would need someone with their full licence to sit in the passenger.
>Don't know anyone who has a full licence.
>Can't pay a driving instructor because they're expensive and I don't have money.

It really is a ruthless cycle.

>>23715590
It's basically an IQ test and you're failing it

I've shit maybe 5 times today. This is terrible. I feel just awful. And my ass hole is bleeding from all the wiping

My biggest problem is that all my friends and family are underachievers. Obviously, I care about them but we don’t help each other grow and succeed, only fail.

>>23715623
Nice blaming other people

>>23715526
Do you have squishy basement dweller man boobies? Let me feel them

My neighbor had a fatal car accident tonight. His poor mother kept wailing and screaming for hours, she couldn't believe it. He was walking towards his house, then spotted a friend who lived a few miles away and offered him a ride home. They both didn't make it. All of us were around the same age. Death was calling them to that exact spot.
I vividly remember going to his house when we were kids, playing a shitty shovelware ps1 game called world's most dangerous police chases or something like that, and sharing some delicious pastries.
May God have mercy on their souls.

>>23715545
>>23715550
>>23715557
thinking about putting people like them on an island and making them touch starved makes me horny

>>23715691
I'm currently on an island and I don't like being touched, how does this make you feel?

>>23715668
Only if you promise to twist my nipples

>>23715624
I’m not blaming them. I’m just saying the “you are the result of the people you’re around the most” is true. If your friends are all losers you’ll be a loser, even if you have talent and drive.

>>23715695
You were touched as a kid and I know you like it

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There is so much human history, so much human experience, that we will never know. For instance, even the just a compendium of all the fetishes possessed by human beings in our 240,000+ prehistory would run millions of pages longer than all of our present anthropological literature. All the fire and thunder of pre-historic sexuality... pre-verbal eros...

>>23715704
You're a fag and I would promise to laugh

I get hard when she texts me.

>>23715723
>le... fetishes
coomers are a modern phenomenon. never before has masturbation become a lifestyle and identity

>>23715731
good to see the american boner & food dairies itt are going strong. i will never know what possesses a person to run to 4chan to tell strangers about some incidental erection

>>23715053
Here’s to shitting, the cheapest vacation you can buy.

>>23715732
Sexual fixations are as old as time.

>>23715622
Try washing it under the shower head instead of wiping so much. Just a friendly advice.

>>23715734
it's art nigger. I know all of my posts will one day be collated into a groundbreaking masterpiece. thanks for contributing. when you connect the post about my text-boner with the other non-sequitors it will all become clear.... I'm an artist.

>>23715732
Tell that to Diogenes

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People say that the West is still too comfortable to have a civil war, but to me this misses the fact that in actual history the United States, in particular, has been perfectly willing to have a devastating war when it was materially doing quite well.

I speak of course here of the US Civil War. It has no obvious economic impetus. The Southerners were doing pretty well economically, the Northerners were doing better. Yet America tore itself apart and spilled the blood of hundreds of thousands over a purely moral and philosophical disagreement.

The lesson one might take from this is that Americans are funny and don't obey the normal rules of revolution and civil war. They WILL take a good thing and trash it in the name of a moral and cultural dispute. Materially the United States is doing very well right now, but I still would not be surprised to see us in another civil war within a decade, simply for cultural and moral reasons.

>>23715774
>The Southerners were doing pretty well economically
Southern landowners were massively incentivised to secede because their economic prosperity relied on slave ownership

>>23715774
Grow up. Nobody hates trannies enough to start a war over it

>>23715777
Pro-lifers and pro-choicers might hate each other enough to go to war, though.

>>23715774
It would never be a battlefield war. Most people won’t fight. It would look more like terroristic attacks, such as The Troubles. The USA is just too big, diverse, and comfortable to fight any large scale war. The left and the right will just trade shots and propagandize on the internet

>>23715791
Or we just balkanize Soviet-style. If, say, California or Texas or Florida seceded, and took a lot of their neighboring states with them, how much strength is really there in Washington to fight to get them back in the Union?

And once there's one secession there would be others. Maybe America's fate isn't some grand and terrible Gotterdammerung, but for us to just pathetically pull apart out of exhaustion.

>>23715796
The civil war was a regional conflict. The culture war has each side living together. People aren’t going to move to go to war. If things get bad enough in a certain area the national guard will be brought in. This is all a pipe dream you’re having

>>23715774
I don't think the modern masses of the West to have meaningful ideas let alone fight over them in a civil war.
Their ideas are dumb and stupid both among lefts and rightwingers. One could almost say insane.

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Ba boom.

>>23715802
>national guard

Not ultimately strong enough to fight on the soil of natives.

We are going to come apart. The United States, the West, everything. We're going to split and not come back together No power on Earth can stop us from coming apart, it's already started. One big economic crisis is all it will take to kick the splitting-up off.

>>23715805
This. Most people aren’t radicalized, just the radicals are loudest on the internet. Most people think they’re jackasses

>>23715731
Has she sent you nudes yet? Is she hot?

>>23715810
Fine. You going to have California fighting the US Army, Navy, and Marines? Not to mention most people in a succeeded state aren’t going to want to take up arms. Many will move out as well if shit is getting bad. Time to grow up and stop fantasizing

Webcamgirl sites went to shit after onlyfans, barely any model worth following

>>23715817
You are a fool if you can't see things getting very bad, already getting bad and going to get worse. The United States as we know it is almost over.

>>23715840
>2 more weeks

>>23715840
Politics was way more fucked in the 1960s

>>23715815
we were alone in her apartment and she showed me she can do the splits

Don't get me wrong, I live in a good country, but I live in the most boring state in my country, shit is so ass.

>>23715774
For some reason people think a civil war is every able bodied person showing up to fight and all normal life stops but that’s not what civil war is. Civil war is two political factions and their volunteers going out while the regular civilians scurry like ants and try to go about their normal lives.

>>23715774
The civil war wasn’t merely a moral disagreement. It was cultural and it was especially legal. It was literally a battle for the future of America.

I think I'll kill myself this weekend. Why keep trying? So I can repeat the cycle again? Meet someone and lose them, because I wasn't good enough, or because I didn't have what they wanted, all over again? I can't keep going like this. I'm so tired. If I had known that things would never work out with anyone I ever knew I would rather have just never met them at all.
I have asked God to let my life end soon many times but his answer is obscure. Good things happen to bad people and bad things happen to good people, but miracles don't happen to anyone but the pure of heart. I guess I'm just too dirty for any of my prayers, for an end or otherwise, to avail anything.

>>23715892
is this some copypasta?

>be me
>no sleep for 48+ hours
>brain is fucked for some reason, chronic insomnia
>lie in bed, lights off, close eyes, try to relax
>feels like one of those infinite mirror rooms, but the reflections are all interrogating each other
>i've had enough of this consciousness shit
>pray for it to just end already
>moments later, i feel a weird sensation on my arm
>open eyes and lift the covers to take a look
>initially it's too dark to see my arm, but after staring for a bit my eyes adjust
>there sits upon my bicep a static, black shape -- the static silhouette of an enormous cockroach
>stare
>somehow unable comprehend this shit
>"is this real?"
>it begins to crawl up my arm towards my shoulders
>it's definitely real
note: i've always been a pussy about large bugs
>lurch up to a standing position, still on the bed
>vigorously brush myself off and leap down to flip the lights
>lights flipped, eyes dart back to the bed
>see it crawling down into the crevice between the wall and mattress
>bedframe is impossible to move
>lift mattress; can't find it
>i'm finished
>just sit on the ground
>type this post
human body salesman scammed my soul bigtime during the reincarnation. "defective brain" should be written in huge bold letters at the top of the page

Crazy how Americans are the real heirs to the Roman Empire.
They literally go on imperialistic war duty overseas.
Then they come back and everyone is forced to worship them as heroes.

>>23715774
I don't think relative wealth is a good metric in this case.
The US in the 1850s was still a largely agrarian society where everyone, except the slave owners and the bankers was acquainted with hard and dangerous physical labor.

>>23715774
There's like 35% of adult men who don't get pussy.
That's your army.

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Snoop Dogg is my role model

>>23715970
An army that consists of angry young men. They are completely harmless, of course; these guys can't even get matches on Tinder.

>>23715053
talent talent
motivation motivation
discipline discipline

>>23715810
> Civilians vs a trained force
anon stop being retarded please even if everyone that could fight would the army has to much technology that can wipe out any force

>>23715962
anon probably just lack of sleep/underlying mental issues I'd talk to a doctor

>>23716011
>half the army defects to the breakaway states
what now genius

>>23716011
Undertrained and underequipped civillian forces have been demonstrably effective in asymmetric warfare in both international and domestic (civil war) conflicts.

>>23715966
Wasn't it ten or more years ago that it was officially declared that US is no longer the global superpower? Move on with times, amerishart.

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Everytime I see Italo post I think "why always Calvino and never Svevo" crashing in here with a Svevo post.

In my small hometown there is a tradition that, when it's someone's birthday that person pays everyone's 1st expresso cup, in our town's cafe.
I've drank many free cups thanks to that, and tomorrow it'll be my turn to pay for the lot.

The mountains of BMWF interracial porn on the internet disturbes me.

>>23716011
do you think the U.S. military is just gonna airstrike its own cities? ravage their own industry? if even Texas alone secedes, the process of retaking it would involve an excruciating invasion of a place whose population A. outnumbers your troops 100 to 1
and B. is sitting on enough guns to arm every one of their men women and children twice over. there's also the problem of having to effectively cripple their industry with as little unnecessary damage as possible so as to prevent generating unrest and sympathy from any other undecided states.
vietnam was a tiny, third-world shithole of a nation, and yet U.S. troops simply couldn't take control of it. with all their technology, they were still bested by a bunch of untrained peasants with guns. geurilla warfare with U.S. citizens be incredibly unpleasant to deal with.

I have become convinced that I will win several writing prizes. It is unfathomable to me that I am not going to write at least two (2) great masterpieces in my lifetime. I feel it in my soul that it simply will happen. Any alternative makes no sense.

>>23716179
>do you think the U.S. military is just gonna airstrike its own cities?
NTA but yes, they've wanted to do it in the past.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Never really been a Powerade or Gatorade guy but I've found a few flavours recently that I've really liked, I'm drinking the Grape Gatorade right now and it's so good.

Slept in my own house for the first time

Thinking about whether I should give up on buying a house downtown and invest in a big plot of land further out in the boonies and build a small cabin on it that I slowly build up over time. I won’t be able to rent it, not regularly anyway. And it will be socially isolating living there, but at least it would be peaceful, right? Idk. I worry a lot that I’m not putting myself in the thick of the hustle and bustle enough.

>>23716431
I'd love to build a sick cabin with a bitchin' basement out in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by pine trees, by a lake that's clean enough to swim in. Man, that sounds like the dream.

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I use Twitter as a newsfeed (I have no idea what is a good substitute) and the amount of retarded shit I've seen makes me hate humanity even more. I can't tell if 90% of the website is legit retarded, or if the users are just engagement farming.

I see negresses and nigs cry about the "YT" folks. I've seen homos presume everyone is a faggot and pretend they're so "edgy" by reclaiming the word faggot when I know the average poster here would make them cry irl within 5 minutes. I see women talk about how much they hate men despite these whores doing fuck all but post pics of themselves for men to gawk at.

And then there's the shitty fucking gay arguments like: "OMG is this 19 year old dating a 29 year old man. She was liek totally groomed!" No you cunt, she's an adult and she made a decision. Twitter users don't want a young woman taking dick, but if she wanted an abortion suddenly the choice is hers.

Bitches watched the Johnny Depp trial and call him guilty (probably because Heard has BDP so Women and Fags can relate) and never shut the fuck up about it

Worst of all is Elon Musk's bogged ass talking about free speech while publicly sucking jew cock and limiting visibility on 1,000 words. And if I tell people they're being faggots, suddenly I can't post anymore.

>>23716445
Don't use Twitter, it's genuinely been nothing but garbage since that retard, Elon, took over. It's all just ragebait because engagement gets you paid.
>Worst of all is Elon Musk's bogged ass talking about free speech
Yeah, he's a huge hypocrite, I can't think of a single good reason why anyone should like him.

>>23716431
Depends if you still need to find a mate or not.
If not or you don't care and you're fine living on your own, I'd do the boonies. Otherwise leave it for later. Especially if you're still young.

>>23716445
If you want free speech+ you should get premium.
That way you can say nigger and faggot without being censored.

Never forget Twitter is just highlighting the extremes. Yes women are vapid, but not as vapid as seen on Twitter.

>>23716445
>>23716451
Monetization of online content has turned the internet to shit. Once Google bought Youtube, that was a sign that the party ended.

300 years ago, streamers would be court jesters. Pokimane and her ilk would be warming a knight's bed.

>>23716445
Twitter is the best. Just mute libtards whenever it pops in your feed and you're good to go. Also a huge fan of elon. One of the only people that actually affect the course of humanity and realizes it. Shame about the jewish stuff tho

I think my body is not entering REM when I sleep.

>>23716460
>If you want free speech+ you should get premium.

That's hilarious. Straight from a Douglas Adams novel.

>>23716521
It is. But you can go extremely hard on twitter if you have it.
I've seen racism that would make a /pol/cel blush.

>>23716474
lol no? Jesters used to be educated and cultured people; sometimes even polymaths. Don't compare attention whores to jesters, clowns is term you are looking for.

Photos of space and objecs in space are really unsettling. The infinity of the void makes my skin crawl, like some sort of lovecraftian creature that mesmerizes the beholder at the same time it breaks down its sanity.

>>23716543
links?

>>23716554
https://x.com/barrystantonGBP
That one is a gem.
They made him take off his profile pic and banner because he was getting too much traction.

>>23716489
REM is such a good band

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'Cause memories can be friends
Or they can take you to a place that you never thought you'd be again
And take you to a face that you never ever thought that you would see again

I finally sympathize with that my ass is a swamp guy. I just can't stop shitting. I thought having a ton of fiber would help, but my shit is only more watery now. This sucks, it's actually negatively affecting my daily life now.

>>23716450
What's a good place to get up to date news on various topics?

>>23717084
Telegram

>>23717084
uh npr like a decent fucking human??

>>23716552
install libgen

dive through the galactic plane

toggle stars off.

enjoy.

>>23716450
>my curated echo chamber is gone: (

>>23717106
i mean, star engine*

kek

>>23715951
No

>>23716179
OK but now imagine how Vietnam would go if every vietcong has a spy device in his pocket, there's an electronic dossier of his political beliefs, he's on average fat and old, many of his relatives rely on government payments to survive, there's no cambodia or laos to hide in, and the US has infinity Africans foreign mercenaries available.

America is done. There's not going to be any renewing revolution just a long slow slide of enshitification.

my therapist said that all things being equal, going to law school may be the best fit for my life situation

Fucking hate my shitty ass town
Can't even meet any good women here and the online dating shit here is pointless. Wish I could move somewhere but it's hard.

>>23717171
You underappreciate how vast America is

How many times do you have to eat something to force yourself to like it?

>>23717308
Depends. Practice eating my dick until you like it

I'm so fucking horny

>>23717324
same

>>23717365
Mutual problem... mutual solution?

I got laid of work in april. Spent the whole summer a free man collecting worker benefits. Now a week ago a past collegue who's now a local boss asks if I'm interested and here I am going to work tomorrow. I'm nervous I liked being free and not having to do anything. Sure there was existential dread every now and then but thinking 'bout how this gay earth will implode within my lifetime made it less awful. What the fuck, now I gotta pay attention, smile and shake hands? I hate doing that shit but I think I am too good at it for my own sake, I constantly wonder if my coworkers know I am putting up a complete facade, I even wonder if I truly AM putting on a facade since it's possible I'm just a normie. I can't wait to join the army.

>>23717084
Fuck the news

>>23717391
Sorry, typo. *jews

>>23716445
You have to change the people you follow there. My Tweet feed is gold. A little bit too much outrage porn, but that's it.

>>23717385
Work is more bearable if you have some sort of 'out'.
I used to just work for a year or two and reward myself with a few months of unemployment. I'd save enough money to do that very comfortably.

>>23717401
It's too sensitive.
If you interact with an account you dislike you're going to see a lot of those accounts in your feed immediately.
It makes me not want to even comment on tweets by people I don't like. Because I know I'll have to hit 'not interested in this post' for the next 15 minutes just to get it back to normal again.

I might just make it my life's goal to goof off at work as best as I can.
Out of everything I do I think this might be what I'm the best at. Everyone has their strength, and maybe this one is mine. I've made promotions while pretending to be working hard.

>>23715053
I work with a 19 year old kid, we're fucked guys. The boys these days are just tall babies, get ready to have to comfort crying adult males.

>>23717487
Imagine if you're a normal man of that age.
Must be easy as fuck, your competition just sucks that much.

>>23717308
It's about 14-17 times for infants to get enough tastes to know if they like a new thing, but I don't know what it is for adults

>>23717455
Then do that. I don't interact with people I despise there, nor with people that say things I despise. That's the magic of Twitter. Even here I have to endure the outrageous dishonesty of progressives, not on Twitter.
Why interact with them? Do you think you are going to own them? No, they will just be mind–blowingly dishonest about what you said and it won't make a dent.

>>23717499
It's not even to own anyone. But I do like engage with people who think different.
The problem isn't that I occasionally have some nonsense in the 'for you' page, it's that after making one comment, EVERYTHING is from that sphere. One time was extreme where they pretend 'blackface' is a thing in the netherlands. I made a comment arguing otherwise. For about 3 days 30% of all posts I saw as from leftist whining and crying that it's a racist thing and boo hoo.

>>23717487
Are you an amerishart?

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This is hilarious

>>23717498
Time to babymax

>>23715053
I wish there weren't porn ads on blue boards.
In other news, I just started Augustus. Good stuff.

This anhedonia is scooping out my insides and turning me hollow. I almost want to turn to drugs to escape.

>>23717560
Magic mushrooms might be able to fix it.

>>23717635
I’ve done shrooms and acid a few times before years ago when I was in my late teens. I was in a terrible point in my life that I’m still not entirely out of, and those trips were frightening to say the least. Anything psychoactive makes me fearful and paranoid.

>>23717647
First few times I did it (7/8 years ago) was great. I think it really did open up my mind to new perspectives.
However the last 3/4 I did them (6/7 years ago) it was like you said, bad trips.
Still I would recommend it to people who feel depressed. Just make sure you do it in a comfortable environment.

>>23717647
> unironically doing acid and shrooms
Pathetic

>>23717664
The thought of being able to grow from the trip (good or bad) sounds enticing, but resorting to drugs to make myself feel better sounds like a lame excuse to be reckless if I'm being honest.

>>23717678
It is not at all reckless to take a reasonable dose in a safe location, don't be a fucking pussy

>>23717560
What's your quality of life like? Do you have hobbies, a job, and meaningful relationships? How do you spend your time? Are there specific factors you can think of that brought on this anhedonic state? Have you ever talked to a psychiatrist or tried antidepressants?

>>23717678
Some people need to be a little reckless to grow. For me it was needed.
Mushrooms are 100% not addictive either, the moment I noticed they were not fun anymore I quit.

Honestly you probably never need more than one trip, everything you want to know can be learned in one trip.
Depending on how you want to grow I think it can be helpful. For me it was more letting go of anxieties. It was as if I put on a new lens to look at problems, I could truly look at situations from a new perspectives and it stayed with me since then.

>>23717687
I thought the standard advice with psychedelics was to take them only if you're in a stable state of mind. I can see how a depressed person might benefit from a trip with the right guidance, but at the same time, I can also see how that can be a recipe for disaster.
>>23717710
>Depending on how you want to grow I think it can be helpful. For me it was more letting go of anxieties. It was as if I put on a new lens to look at problems, I could truly look at situations from a new perspectives and it stayed with me since then.
Fair enough, but don't you think that you could've achieved that on your own?

>>23717560
Are you the anon who posted about having a gun and wanting to shoot yourself because of anhedonia a while back?

>it finally hits me that I'm out of time and should move out of my parents' ASAP just as my mom is admitted to the hospital
Leaving right now will most likely burn all bridges with my close/extended family but fuck it, I brought it upon myself for waiting this long.
No, I can't just wait it out, I would get stuck into a life I'm not fit for, and I would rather kill myself than let that happen, so short of a miracle, I'm gonna upset my family one way or another.

>>23717727
>Fair enough, but don't you think that you could've achieved that on your own?
Impossible to tell.
All I know is that after that trip I realized a lot of things holding me back were nonsense. And now I have a life I honestly dreamed of back then, but didn't think I'd actually get.
Unless you have some family history of schizophrenia or you take it with people who dislike or don't care about you, I don't see how it could really go wrong.
Just as long as you remember that whatever there is to learn on shrooms, you learn the first, maybe second time. There is no reason to become a 'shroomguy'. Not that I think it is likely or does a lot of damage, just a waste of time.

>>23717740
Maybe? I wouldn't be surprised if I wrote something like that in these threads. I started self-harming months ago. I haven't done it since, thankfully, but I'm having a terrible day today and considered doing it again. However, I do remember feeling immense regret and guilt afterwards hence I'm weighing the pros/cons of doing that versus a bunch of drugs.

>>23717727
>if you're in a stable state of mind.
Nta but most people can generally feel okay for the length of a four hour picnic in a nice park. They might stop themselves from taking a picnic or never think of it, but if for some reason they were stuck with a blanket and food and just had to wait four hours in nice weather, they would not have a freak out where they needed urgent assistance.
That's about as stable a state of mind and setting as you need, but people who would freak out given four hours touching grass are not stable enough.
However, promoting them as some kind of be all or end all thing, whether from a positive or negative view point, skews results a lot. People who think it cured their mental illness and therefore everyone should do it are about as common as people who think it caused their mental illness and therefore should be banned. Most people without expectations are just like
>I really liked this rubber ball for a while, it felt like it made sense and was good
>I was really comfortable and I think nature must be comfortable most of the time too, we really vibes
>There's a really nice pattern of bricks over there, it looks like a waterfall sometimes
They gave a bunch of seminary students psychedelics once and all that happened was they all had a nice comfy of sense spiritual alignment. How your expectations are loaded affects it almost as much as what type of person you are and your surroundings.

Food is better than sex. Sex just feels off, even when I'm horny. Food on the oher hand is purely nice.

>>23717769
Why are you having such a bad day? Did something happen?

>>23717743
It's fine, move out to not burden her while she's sick.

This thread sucked today, do better tomorrow.

>>23717801
The problem is that my parents were pretty much expecting my older sister and I to take over their bussiness but now my dad and my sister are busy dealing with mom. Oh, and an employee got pissed off for who knows what and didn't show up despite knowing the situation.
Why do they need two shops? The one I'm at gets way less customers, just focus all your efforts on one and leave me alone. I was already planning on leaving, I'm not going to let this stop me.

anyone here read Thomas Bernhard?
about to start reading his book Extinction pretty soon

> love my job
> love my employer
> hate where I live
> hate my employer

>>23717785
you sound fat

I'm very sensitive and I believe I deserve to be treated with exquisite gentleness and courtesy

>>23718288
If you are girl you won't have any problem
If you are guy then it's gonna be hard for you unless you act really homosexual

God is dead and he killed himself

>>23718288
Same

Why do they allow /clg/ on /lit/ when it should be on /his/?

I'm convinced that getting a deep tissue massage a few times is the key to feeling better and not feeling depressed

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>>23718432
>deep tissue massage
How deep does it go? Sounds gay desu

>>23718420
Because none of the people who read Greek are going to /his/

>>23718432
Me too I just can't afford it

>>23717785
Obviously, you’re wrong but I get where you’re coming from because sex can often be disappointing or the woman just make it more pain that it’s worse and by nature sex I’d lore of a feeling of release of discomfort with just a brief moment of ecstasy

>>23718432
I really like getting rolfed. If I had the time and money I'd get rolfed every day.

>>23718288
Is this your idea of a joke? Try harder. Pathetic.

>>23718629
Deranged post

Is initiating contact with women supposed to feel degrading? I thought the opposite effect was the one you should be expecting to get.

>>23718649
No one who frequents a shithole like this is sensitive.

>>23718432
And yet you say the gym bros are wrong when they insist it’s lifting to muscle failure

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx4CVAsxPqM

I think bodycam/cop youtube channels are having an appreciable effect on public discourse, everywhere I go someone is talking about them lately due to the algorithm. People are seeing subhuman fucking scum like this every day now, getting 8 years for killing a woman and barely even caring, or getting all charges dropped or dismissed after they ruined the lives of a dozen people for a joyride.

If there's an economic downturn, and the eternal 1990s delusion finally wears off and some actual hardship starts to affect people that they can't hide from on their smartphones, and politicians start having to actually address the problems by running on law and order platforms, I pray we see an incredibly authoritarian regime that ruthlessly exterminates all druggies and dealers and punishes petty crime with death for a good 20 years. Purge this accumulated sewage from the human genome. Hang every single junkie and vagrant.

Imagine some new administration that says "You have 3 months to stop using drugs. If you are found high or in possession of drugs you will die." And actually making good on its promise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDEaPNMXAig

>>23718894
Debilitating crime is not a bug but an intended feature of the modern urban landscape. Anarcho-tyranny is far more effective at securing the rule of the elites than simple tyranny from above.

Someone I know doesn't seem the brightest but he's still a decent person. I think he relies on the fact that blind faith is a thing and when "ah ha" moments come that's common sense it's from Jesus.

>>23718894
I think we should just make labor/rehab camps for all homeless and drug addicts. Give them a chance to reform but take them off the street. If they fail they get permanently sentenced to rehab camp

Just waiting for the right opportunity to come along, I'll be sure to snag it when it does.

I hate my crippling social anxiety

>>23715210
> no job would let
lol ngmi

>>23719439
The time is now. Do it now.

>>23719499
I physically can't, this is actually something that I have to wait for, it's not available right now.

>>23719510
What are you waiting for?

>>23719526
The right clinical trial to be available. There are a bunch available right now but I don't care for any of them. I'm waiting for a real long, well-paying, one to come along.

>>23718698
Lifting is retarded and will end up doing long lasting damage to your body, calisthenics it's where it's truly at, the ability to lift up your body and do multiple pullups with various grips is beyond based. Also obviously pushups and dips are great as well.

>>23715210
5k USD is what, twice the average monthly salary in Japan? Even if you spend like an idiot that will be enough.

Last time I was there I'm pretty sure I spend ~ 1-1.2k USD for 10 days, but I crashed at my friend's place. If I had to stay at a hotel that wouldn't have been more than 300-400 either way. So 10 days is definitely not less than 2k. 5K should be enough for 4 weeks if you don't spend like an idiot and go for cheaper places to sleep at. Also rent a bike rather than using busses/trains where possible.

>>23716140
'Tomorrow' is today, and so is my birthday!

the behavior of people makes me glad the world is going to shit
I enjoy the idea of people I hate being miserable far more than my own happiness

>>23719444
Social anxiety is retarded, I was agoraphobic to the point I could have been committed for delusion and I'm fine now due to years of exposure

Every socially anxious person just needs literally me to talk to them and bully them into opening up. If they start saying some gay shit about being scared I'll say 'boo hoo hoo little gay baby gonna cry?' and if they try to leave I'll physically block the exits until they stop being retarded

It's fascinating how the people around you kinda sorta dictate the personality and sort of "being" one is allowed to be

Till around December 2022, I was surrounded by nice, receptive people who would listen to what I had to say and, in turn, I would listen to their thoughts and opinions. It was just a great positive atmosphere. However, since then, I've had to be around people who were negative and disagreeable and would shut me and others down whenever we spoke. It has created a palpably negative environment where no one is looking to open their mouth.

Praying I get a better job soon and can move to a better place with better, nicer people soon.

I wish I didn't have to be on these meds, since they make me feel a bit dull and slow.
But the alternative seems to be ruining my life in a manic episode and getting committed due to manic delusions. Shit sucks yo

My name is Dave but nobody calls me that

>>23719980
What do they call you

Where are you most ticklish, /lit/ anons..

>>23719984
my peanus weenus of course

>>23719991
I'm really curious to try tickling someone's cock... running pointed feathers and makeup brushes and such over the balls and folds of the groin and swishing them up and down the thick rigid shaft and fluttering them about the hyper-sensitive tip... getting someone into such a state of arousal... squirming and wriggling about... hot and bothered... stiff, ticklish, wet... poised to explode...

>>23719983
mostly by my last name, some people call me by my middle name, nobody calls me Dave.

>>23719444
get a massage

>>23719999
gay ass fruity ass queer

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Was amazed to learn that not only had the Irish Republicans downed army helicopters with machine guns, it was captured it in full color video for propaganda purposes. Was like a vision come to life, I had seen it in my head and dreamed of it in the night, they shot the helicopters in the city and way out in the bright green hills like the ones I rest in.

Meetings in hidden groves and fields in the rolling forests, men crouching in the sunny grass and calmly explaining how to load machine guns. Ordinary men with homemade grenade launchers, with rockets and mortars, working around the clock. If such hidden clearings were in the hills of Kentucky I could not tell, and in such scale as the fabled isle is to our own North America.

But in the open fields you can see clearly it is the old country. Like something out of a fairy tale, so bright and quaint. But instead of men with scythes harvesting barley, or magical fae dancing around to a tin whistle, it is guerrillas with machine guns shooting down army helicopters. It isn't Joyce's country, nor Yeats's. Nor is it fantastical, mythical.

It is mundane, realistic, practical:

Shooting down helicopters with machine guns.

>>23719900
t. glassback

>>23720335
I'm not lazy you moron lol, I make like 30 pullups and 80 pushups, what the fuck can you do lol?

>>23720043
>homemade
m8 we know a lot of arms manufacturers, it's only bombs you do bespoke, besides half the lads with rocket launchers are english born hippies trying to protect their crop

Dressed as fairytale character, going to get cake for breakfast and maybe a new book :3

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>>23715248
>I'm Australian.
Oh, my bad continue on then.

can't stop watching porn and jerking to it

>>23720553
I have succeeded and excelled in all my plans for today :D

Beginning to grow tired of social media. It's like the atheists are dumb and the Christians are dumb.

>>23720821
I've deleted all of my dating apps recently, they're fucking pointless in my tiny shithole town and and they're nothing more than vanity shitty tools

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>>23715053
Recently started a reread through my self-defined canon of classical literature. Though I have read all these works piecemeal over the years, I have never read them "sequentially."

>Lutheran Study Bible
>Book of Concord (selections)
>Works of Plato (selections)
>Basic works of Aristotle (selections)
>On Being and Essence
>Summa Theologica (selections)
>Apocrypha
>Upanishads
>Iliad
>Odyssey
>Theogony + Works and Days
>Daodjing
>Analects
>Greek tragedy
>Greek comedy
>Histories of Herodotus
>History of the Peloponnesian War
>Euclid's Elements
>Bhagavad
>Republic + Laws
>On Duties
>Eclogues + Georgics
>Aeneid
>Metamorphoses
>Lotus Sutra
>Lives 1
>Lives 2
>Enchiridion of Epictetus
>Annals of Tacitus
>Histories of Tacitus
>Meditations of Aurelius
>The Enneads (selections)
>On the Egyptian Mysteries
>Orations of Nazianzen
>Confessions
>On Christian Doctrine
>City of God
>On the Trinity
>Brahma Sutras
>Elements of Theology

>>23721033
I'm rereading nazi incest science fiction

So are we actually gonna run out of oil soon

>>23721087
Depends what you mean by "we" and "soon" but likely not

>>23720349
Lift weights without fearing that my paper bones, delicate ceramic joints, or glass spine will explode.

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>tfw normies are surprised when they find out I'm a 20 something khv
They're always like "how haven't you had sex!?"

>>23721091
As in, all civilizations within the next century

>>23720349
>80 pushups
The other anon has a point. Free weights strengthen bones, ligaments, and tendons in a way that calisthenics cannot.

>>23721133
Nta if you're lifting at least BW you should be able to do a pull up
>>23721183
Unlikely if you mean all, possible if you mean most

>>23721044
Are these physical books, or abominable "books" on a computer screen?

For the sake of comedy, I hope they're physical books.

I can't think anything more soulless that being famous in the current age. You gain nothing outside of money, you constantly under the spotlight and if you do something wrong you are ostracized, basically you have to perform a certain role your entire life

>>23721210
Physical. That's why you get physical books, so you can reread them when you want

>>23715053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5H1nEP2wXA
thread themeth

>>23721215
Please give titles. Or pics

>>23721087
no

>verification not required

>>23721279
Plan for Chaos by John Wyndham. Ignore the press line it's a companion to Day of the Triffids, he just wrote them about the same time.

>>23721290
That book...doesn't seem that bad.

Is it actually a decent potboiler, or are you just reading it for the eroticism?

>>23721316
It's everything you could want in a book, including a bit with ufos because why not. Limited eroticism, but you are meant to root for cousin marriage as the less of some evils

>>23721205
I can do 20, quit acting like only calisthenics practitioners can do pullups.

>>23721451
I was saying the opposite of that. Lifting BW isn't even lifting heavy bro lmao wtf is wrong with you

>>23720877
I got banned from discord right now so that's a step forward. I haven't been on dating apps but being in a small town it probably wouldn't benefit.

>>23721456
What's your point? First you call lifting free weights retarded, then you say that lifting your own bodyweight in calisthenics isn't even heavy?

>>23721749
>Anon is all one person
>>23721205
>Nta
Lrn2 4chan retard

>>23721761
no u

Emily Jashinsky from Breaking Points has a Wikifeet. Who in the audience of Breaking Points takes it upon themselves to make the Wikifeet for such a minor figure?

>>23715053
How do I stop thinking about the suffering of the world? I tried using spite and hatred to tell myself that every single human deserves what they get, but that doesn’t work for animals and it was only a temporary solution anyway. It’s not that I have any desire to try to reduce the suffering, I just am constantly disturbing myself by thinking about it and it lowers my mood. I constantly tell myself that it’s not a problem because we live in a dreamlike world where nothing is really experienced at all but I still feel bad all the time from thinking about it, it really lowers my drive to do anything

I really dislike trashy behaving people, which is everyone now apparently.

>>23721825
I’m not a Christian, at least not yet, but a Christian explained to me somewhat recently when discussing the books of C.S. Lewis that this world sucks for us precisely because we’re not made for this world, and I found that really profound and quite comforting actually. The idea that people suffer because there is a far greater kingdom that they were made for is a nice thought.

I realized I would never get married when I realized that my mother is trad relative to these girls today and I would never marry a woman like my mother.

>>23722040
What is your mother like?

>>23722059
Very disagreeable, career boss girl type woman, lives like a total slob at home, selfish but insists otherwise, been divorced 3 times.

I have this vision floating around my head. A man in his early thirties, respected by his peers but always reaching for new heights, his remaining family is proud of him, he sits next to his wife who loves him deeply. Their first child is playing. They want more. He is financially secure and has plenty of free time to enjoy the things that enrich his spirit. He turns to her and smiles that kind of vulnerable smile reserved for the most intimate moments.

'What?' she giggles.

He turns his head to the sunset. 'There was a time when I thought there would never be anything good in my life.' He begins to cry. 'And now I have everything I've ever wanted.' His chin quivers. She holds him close. 'I'm happy.' he says, smiling. 'I hadn't been happy for so long'.

I want to be that man one day.
I don't want mine to be a sad story.

Was that cringe? I'm sorry.

>>23722104
Was what cringe?

>>23722097
Back in reality, your wife’s pussy dries up when she sees him quiver and cry and the relationship is never the same again.

>>23722125
You’re just an emotionally stunted loser. It’s okay for men to be vulnerable with their girlfriends/wives sometimes.

>>23722117
The fact that Harris has to lie to the world to push their agenda to her cult.

>>23722134
Oh really? Take a guess how I know this is what happens.

I’m thinking about going to law school. I should’ve gone years ago.

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Rotting alone in a small apartment and a fridge loaded with alcohol is the fastest way to depression and suicide

>be me, given old testament Christian name
>could be mistaken for having Jewish name
>since Palestine starts getting bombed, fewer delivery packages arrive at my home
>pretty sure this is because they think I'm a jew
Can we scale back the antisemitism lads? I'm having to suffer like this for a choice that wasn't even mine...

>>23722179
Don't rot alone, drink with your buddies or go for walks, do some exercizes outside

>>23721155
It's still not too late, your age is fine

>>23722157
Just because you dated some chick who left you after you expressed your emotions doesn’t mean that all women are like that.

>>23722223
Faggot alert

>>23715053
I look forward to my deportation by the virtue of the fact that I'm a non-white whose grandparents decided to shack up in an Anglo country.

>>23722197
Sorry to hear, Elijah

>>23722037
Babbys first idealism Christianity is right by the way

>>23722037
> The idea that people suffer because there is a far greater kingdom that they were made for is a nice thought.
How is that supposed to make the suffering that is happening right now less disturbing?

>>23722151
imma put this thing in your thang

>>23722289
All yours, friend

>>23722179
>Tfw alone and high in a small apartment during a storm after just finishing my last book with food supplies for days
You should get into romanticism and save crying for street corners. When did you last write a poem?

>>23722179
That was my life for 3 years when I first started adjuncting. I would show up to lectures so hung over. My only saving grace was that I did administrative work most mornings so it was just me and a couple of other staff.

>>23722223
I’ve seen it countless times. It’s just the reality, I’m sorry to say.

>>23722288
Because it implies hope

>>23722242
The more self-hating you are the more pity points your receive

I’m wondering if it would be worth it to stay with my parents for another year for another $50k. After one year I’ve got $50k but I’ve also got severe depression so it kind of cancels out.

>>23722320
Enlighten me, anon.
>>23722373
Did you ever get out of that slouch? I already know that I will get even more depressed once classes start again.

>>23722476
>Did you ever get out of that slouch?
Sort of, but only sort of

>>23722476
How the fuck should I know when you last wrote a poem?

Reading, thinking, and walking are like eating a healthy meal with grilled chicken, fresh vegetables, and a nice cool glass of water. Going from that to 4chan is like chugging a grimace shake and red bull at the same time

Journalism is actually a career hack. I wish I knew that when I was younger. I should’ve just become a journalist.

Writing coaches are charging 150 bucks an hour on fiverr what the FUCK my art tutor charges 45 bucks an hour and his skill is actually viable! No fuck you writing industry you exist to fleece naive idiots out of their money, maybe I should transition to a drawfag exclusively because every painter and illustrator I have met are fucking awesome and reasonable

The smoke alarm in my house started chirping and my first thought was "niggers could be here"

>>23722567
The woman who gave me my grimace shake looked like a grimace

>>23722453
I mean, Shirley, there must be things you could do to mitigate your depression. You don't really think the entirety of your depression is caused by living with your parents? Saving 100k would be enough to put a down payment on a house and still have savjngs left over my man

>>23722567
But sometimes the grimace shake and red bull end up being better for you in some schizophrenic twist in fate

>>23722567
I need to get back into reading but at least I just got a new weight vest to improve my walking.

Fairly sure I’m having an actual nervous breakdown again because I’m mentally retarded.

Should I pen my existential crisis/nihilistic diatribe and submit it to a publisher? I have nothing to lose.

>>23722682
I mean, yeah writing would be helpful. You should also seek professional help and confide in friends and family you can trust.

>>23722684
I’m done with therapy, I’ve tried it multiple times. Same old shit and I can’t afford a “good” shrink. I’m med free though because fuck that. I learned some CBT tricks that help me manage. Sadly, I have very few confidants. The ones that offer an ear really only do it out of obligation because it’s the done thing. They’re good people but we operate on such massively different wavelengths neither of us could offer each other much other than ears and the standard platitudes. I don’t say that with malice, it’s just how it is.

I feel like I could frame a lot of these thoughts into a short story, but haven’t decided on whether I would want to go first person anonymous (Notes from the Underground style) or turn it into a more stylised character study. Maybe a hypothetical “conversation” between a grievously wounded hunter that didn’t cleanly kill his prey and comforts it as it dies with the story of his life, perhaps.

My ex is the only person I speak to on a semi-regular basis, via text at that, and I feel extremely lonely

>>23722703
Man if you're having a nervous breakdown "again," maybe meds aren't that bad of an option

>>23722703
Therapy for me today was amazing. I am very grateful to have found a truly caring therapist who actually listens and has real insight to share with me about my problems.

Huh, this is rhe first time in a long time that I've seen wwoym last more than a day

>>23722794
There’s two of them up

>>23722807
Oh. Of course.

>>23722703
Therapy works better when you're 100% honest with the therapist and internalize/memorize what they say.
It's like a psychic osmosis. The sentences that you say or questions they ask can become like mantras until you start treating yourself better. Instead hypothetical conversations with prey have an actual conversation with healers.

>>23722766
Genuinely happy for you, Anon. It must feel great to make that connection and really work through your issues. I’m yet to find one I can really mesh with. Plus a lot of the free services here in Bongistan will drop you if you can’t attend which is fucking dumb when you’re dealing with people who are gonna struggle to get out of bed and whatnot. But hey, I’m surviving.

>>23722747
I hear you. But after trying every med under the sun over a few years and having it totally fucking zombify me I think I’d rather live with the suffering of existence and try to distract myself from it. I’m able to manage it well enough. Just having a blip because I’m off work with an injury and can’t get out or exercise so yeah, cabin fever is creeping in.

>>23722817
I’ve certainly tried but I’m gated behind paywalls for decent long term solutions. You normally only get a few sessions here before you’re sent on your way unless you shell out, which is just not doable for me. I’ve been a bit harsh on my therapists, they’ve given me pointers towards the tools that have saved me more than a few times, but it’s very hands off and I miss that conversational aspect.

>>23722836
I literally cried today. She said something that clicked into place like a puzzle piece and felt like a great weight had been lifted off my soul. I feel like a little kid again right now.

Some people want it all. But I don't want nothing at all.

>>23722836
I haven't seen a therapist for about 4 years now, had about 30 sessions 10 of them emdr.
I can get like 60% of what I got from a therapist using AI now.
If you got how a therapist talks to you remembered you can sort of music the therapy style with ai, plus it's always available unlike the therapist.
I'll probably see a therapist next year since after the nhs service i'd have to go private now.
Good luck with whatever your going through. AI is definitely helpful if you can get into it, it wasn't around as much when I had therapy.

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>>23722289
I dedicate this one to you, anon.

>>23722673
Not the entirety, but it’s my biggest problem. I just turned 30 and my parents are fucked up in short so it’s the single biggest issue I have. I want to buy a house.

>>23715062
How about a marriage that is governed by a legally strong premarital contract? No romance: pure contractually mandated procreative sex performed within the confines of her menstrual cycle. Prenups work if there isn't too much money. Stories to the contrary are rare or false.

3 months in Seattle and 3 months in San Fran as well as years working in a liberal arts college made me realize that leftism needs to be destroyed and snuffed out and then relentlessly ripped out like weeds forever. This is an ideology of DELUSIONAL freaks and leads to civilizational suicide. It is a bigger threat than climate change or nuclear war or genetic engineering or any of these things these things.

Ugh just got a notification on my phone that there's only one nurse at the methadone clinic today, so it's gonna be a long ass wait when I get there. It already took two and a half hours yesterday and there were two nurses! Might be three hours today, Christ.

>>23723842
marriage is for losers and cuckolds

>>23723968
oh, a contrarian statement, right on schedule

> buy 0.26 gallons of chocolate milk in the store
> slop it down within 5 minutes
Why am I like this?

>>23724018
based and milkpilled