What modern fantasy novels would Tolkien have liked?
>>23814207The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect A Novel by Roger Williams
did he ever like anything other than old myths?
ASOIAF
>>23814291he shat on CS Lewis
None. Modern writers are atheist hacks who don't understand the appeal of an ancient world. They just recreate modern day world barely disguised.
>>23814207earthsea
>>23814367it has land, it has water, it has everything
>>23814207I find it interesting there are very few experts in their field who translated it into writing like Tolkien did. Steven Erikson brings an interesting perspective as archaeologist and anthropologist to Malazan series, for example.
>>23814291He spoke fondly of George McDonald, and liked the first book of CS Lewis' Space Trilogy.
>>23814207I'm so sick of this guy getting worshipped.
>>23814446u mad orc boi?
>>23814207Liked? Probably nothing. Not hated? Probably The Belgariad.
he hated dune
>>23814396it's more a SF thing. or used to be back in the day. fantasy writers seem to mainly be failed literature or english majors.
>>23814207Idk about him but I'm sure Lewis would've liked Susanna Clarke's Piranesi
>>23814448>There is a lack of diversity in Lord of the Rings
John CrowleyGreer GilmanGene WolfeMaybe.
Maybe Robert Holdstock? It’s hard to say, man was crochety
>>23814824Strange and Norrel is better though.
>>23814207He would be extremely disappointed with the publications in our era. >>23814445The first one is defiantly the best--the last one is pretty heady.
>>23814448
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Brandon Sanderson
Sander Branderson
Stormlight Archive by Sando. Because is le evil against le good
How would he react to ASOIAF?>Ten thousand of your children perished in my palm, Your Grace. Whilst you slept, I would lick your sons off my face and fingers one by one, all pale sticky princes.>The three men were erect. The sight of their arousal was arousing, though Daenerys Targaryen found it comical as well.>Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water.>Even his manhood was ugly, thick and veined, with a bulbous purple head.>And suddenly his cock was out, jutting upward from his breeches like a fat pink mast.
>>23818666Checked He'd go back in time and burn his writing
>>23814291I've heard he liked asimov
>>23814207not a novel but I think he really would have liked Frieren's depiction of elves
>>23814291There's a single quote of him saying he "rather enjoyed" the Conan stories, although I believe he only read like one.
>>23819081What about his depiction of demons? Aura was ultracringe
>>23819081He would've absolutely despised its melding of modern and medieval aesthetics.
>>23819118yeah he wouldn't have liked that or its depiction of magic.its depiction of elves and their relationships with humans is what Tolkien would have liked
>>23819155Hobbits smoke pipe tobacco, eat potato soup and wait for the post to be delivered
>>23819164>pipe tobaccoThey called it weed, instead of tobacco to keep it vaguely less anachronistic. Potatoes are never mentioned in the books. Postal services date all the way back to ancient Rome.
>>23819199>Potatoes are never mentioned in the books.
>>23819206That's the film novelization you fucking retard.
>>23819081He would've hated it just as much as he hated Chronicles of Narnia.
>>23819210no it's not you stupid faggot. Book 4, Chapter 4: Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit
>>23819221Whatever, he still would've called your weeb trash dogshit and considered it below contempt.
>>23819210Can't tell if trolling or genuinely fucking retarded.
>>23814207Try starting the thread off with what you think modern fantasy novels tolkien would have liked to get the conversation going. This thread is low effort and extractive.
>>23819325>low effort and extractiveWelcome to the internet.
>>23819164If Tolkien wrote it today would hobbits eat tikka masala?
>>23814207He wrote exactly the sort of books that interested him, and no such books have been written since.>>23814445He got crotchety about McDonald later in life, and his disagreements with Lewis' religion, friends, and wife probably colored his opinions more than the actually quality of Lewis' work. Tolkien and Lewis' disagreements probably hit their high point with the posthumous book, "Letters to Malcom", and Tolkien's unpublished critique of said boo,"The Ulsterior Motive".>>23819095Yeah, we know Tolkien read "Shadows in the Moonlight", and in regards to R.E. Howard's stories, told L. Sprague de Camp he "rather liked them". He was probably just being polite. From my reading of both men's personal letters I believe Tolkien and Howard would have got along quite well in life if they had made contact anytime before Howard's suicide. Howard's obsession with the Celtic would have annoyed Tolkien, but his agnosticism would have given Tolkien something to pick at to stay interested.
>>23820233>He wrote exactly the sort of books that interested him, and no such books have been written since.This is what a always thought, he wrote what he liked and readers be damned.
>>23818756He didn't like Asimov. It was too pessimistic, too limiting for him. >What point is it to venture forward only to do the very same that we do now? Along those lines.
>>23819081dialogue and characterization in this anime is so bad, there's no tension built, the troupe separate from each other like people who just met 10 minutes ago, i don't understand why anyone praises this
>>23820233>he was probably just being politeHe was known to be quite open-lipped about things he hated, going so far as to actually insult his friend CS Lewis over his Narnia books.
Would he like it?
>>23814207Sanderson. He would appreciate the systems autism.>>23819155He did it with Christianity and European paganism.
>>23814291You wouldn't expect it but he was a reader of Mark Twain despite them coming from very different cultures, having very different outlooks on society, and very different tones in their own writings.Tolkien had his own autistic niches but he was more broadly-read and willing to engage with a lot of shit you wouldn't associate with him.
>>23819081Unrelated, both for Tolkien and /lit/, but I love stories that take place in an unconventional, idiosyncratic place in time compared to where a normal stories plot would take place. Most stories would be the quest Frieren and her fellow adventurers embarked on, but it taking DECADES after the big quest is the kind of shit I love. It's why, even though the game sucks mechanically, I love Dark Souls 2, because it takes place as a semi-backdrop from the MAIN story which is maximum comfy.
>>23814291He mentioned liking/owned books by>Isaac Asimov>The Death of Grass by John Christopher>Rider Haggard, especially SHE>John Buchan>E.R. Eddison (with some reservations)>Some of C.S. Lewis' work (but he hated Narnia)>William Morris>Olaf Stapledon>C.S. Forrester>H.G. Wells>The Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame>A Voyage to Arcturus by David Lindsay>Not sure if he liked him but Tolkien was definitely familiar with Lord Dunsany>Mary Renault>>23821759he did like Asimov, pic related
>>23821789tension is demonic subversion
>>23814207when side n*gga catch feelings
>>23814207Book of the new Sun maybe
>>23822255>Mary RenaultThat stupid fucking bitch was one of the big reasons people started seeing the Greeks as dick-sucking homos. Fuck her and her dogshit books.
>>23823849I thought the faggotry in some of Plato's dialogues did that.
https://youtu.be/WLjVWIxwpao
>>23819164None of those are modern you massive retard. All 1500s-1600s in the UK.
>>23814396Somehow I think that he’d dislike authors almost more so if they are scholars.
Honestly I can’t think of any mainly because I can’t think of any which took the old myths and fairytales as inspiration as Tolkien did. Pretty much everyone notable since him has taken him and D&D as their inspiration.
>>23823849>Plato: It's contrary to natureyeah, the greeks knew that. it didn't sop them from doing it anyway
>>23819081>>23822015He'd consider comics to be inferior to literary fantasy.>There is, for example, in surrealism commonly present a morbidity or un-ease very rarely found in literary fantasy. The mind that produced the depicted images may often be suspected to have been in fact already morbid; yet this is not a necessary explanation in all cases. A curious disturbance of the mind is often set up by the very act of drawing things of this kind, a state similar in quality and consciousness of morbidity to the sensations in a high fever, when the mind develops a distressing fecundity and facility in figure-making, seeing forms sinister or grotesque in all visible objects about it. I am speaking here, of course, of the primary expression of Fantasy in “pictorial” arts, not of “illustrations”; nor of the cinematograph. However good in themselves, illustrations do little good to fairy-stories. The radical distinction between all art (including drama) that offers a visible presentation and true literature is that it imposes one visible form. Literature works from mind to mind and is thus more progenitive. It is at once more universal and more poignantly particular. If it speaks of bread or wine or stone or tree, it appeals to the whole of these things, to their ideas; yet each hearer will give to them a peculiar personal embodiment in his imagination. Should the story say “he ate bread,” the dramatic producer or painter can only show ”a piece of bread” according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own. If a story says “he climbed a hill and saw a river in the valley below,” the illustrator may catch, or nearly catch, his own vision of such a scene; but every hearer of the words will have his own picture, and it will be made out of all the hills and rivers and dales he has ever seen, but especially out of The Hill, The River, The Valley which were for him the first embodiment of the word.
>>23819081>can't escape this putrid dogshit even on a board like /lit/kill yourself
>>23824043thishe knew just how much of a hack he was
>>23822255Genuinely surprised he never liked or read Lovecraft because the nameless things under Moria or all the cursed lands, or Ungoliant sound purely Lovecraftian inspired.
>>23824916Lovecraft was a very obscure writer through most of Tolkien's life, only becoming notable towards the end in the 1960s
