>killing le women is bad bravo bolano that really needed 900+ pages
That's not even the point of the fourth book mouthbreather, which is the only section dealing with the murders directly.
>>23978103how good is this book? what am I in for?I do love detective stories but what more will it give me besides examining a murder?
>>23978230its very very good i was being a disingenuous baiterits a sprawling work, and hardly a detective novel in any sense really
>>23978230> what am I in for?He’s trying to move us beyond ideas of grief and horror: he’s smelting the constituent elements of unspeakable nightmare and presenting them as a kind of mystical, eloquent whole. (Is it the strange statue emerging from trembling waters in part one?) What does a pile of bones mean? What does suffering actually mean, once it has passed? Has it passed, ever, or does it transmutate into its environment? Is it that environment and those inhabitants speaking to the world, or the universe? Why do we feel pain reading a fictional account of gang-rape and murder, and is there something we can do with that restoratively, in terms of our evolution? What can such empathy achieve, if anything?Unchecked chaos: is it the inability of man to prevent this descent or is it man’s ultimate nature as self-annihilating?
this book made me not care about the murders the same way most characters don'tbravo bolan~o, also check em
>>23978367I don't know how accurately this explains the book is but the way you explained it made me put this book on a permanent blacklist.
>>23978103I need to finish this. I got laid off in the middle of reading it and ended up putting it aside because of the distractions of life, but I was really loving it. It's really evocative. My excuse for setting it aside was that each section was envisioned as a separate book, anyway. I picked it back up last year to read The Part about the Crimes, and now I'm ready to read the last section.
>>23978103I dropped it 100 pages in. Literally nothing happens in the first 100 pages
>>23978599retard>>23978367sold. be honest with me, is the book as throught-provoking as your post or is it more 20th c. pervert canon slop that always leaves me cold?
>>23978694>is the book as throught-provoking as your postretard
>>23978698fuck off back to readit and/or twitter, tourist. it's faggots like you that ruined this board
>>23978693Maybe serious literature just isn't for you, anon. Try TikTok.
>>23978711Sorry, if you're book isn't interesting after 2 hours, it's goin on the shit pile
>>23978717Based
>>23978717This book was interesting after two minutes.
>>23980127oh yea, they go on discussions about this stupid obscure fictional author and there's a sort of a love triangle happening, and they beat up some fag driver somewhere, very interesting I'm sure
>>23978457>this book made me not care about the murders the same way most characters don'tThat was my take as well. The part of the murders is brilliant because you as a reader don't care about it, and despite how grim and horrible it is, you only want to be done with it and see what's up with Archimboldi and the other characters you do care about. It's a very confronting realization. >>23980131I loved the scene with the cab driver and the dinner scene with the love triangle, I thought both were hilarious and excellently written. >>23978367This post doesn't make sense and has nothing to do with the book.
>>23978693Just want to agree, the Archimboldi critic fanclub is just complete dull shit. I had some interest in their interest in our mysterious author and I was willing to set aside how little I cared for any of them but when it segued into a sad love triangle where there was still nothing interesting happening and I still didn't care at all for the characters I moved on to other books.I've asked this a couple of times but should I just skip to the part after the critics? What value do they actually add to the book aside from establishing Archimboldi as a character?
>>23980151>What value do they actually add to the book aside from establishing Archimboldi as a character?None, really, but it's not like the second or third book add any more "value". If you didn't enjoy the first part you probably won't enjoy the other ones either. The part of the critics does an excellent job at portraying the academic world as a community of self-proclaimed intellectuals who have nothing to offer to anyone except their peers.
>>23980159>The part of the critics does an excellent job at portraying the academic world as a community of self-proclaimed intellectuals who have nothing to offer to anyone except their peers.I can agree with that, but that's part of my problem. If that was the point he was trying to get across he does an excellent job, but I imagine it's also possible to do that without page after page ad nauseum of uninteresting pursuits being carried out by uninteresting people.I suppose I won't bother going back to it.
>>23980165I didn't find these pursuits uninteresting at all. Sure, it's not le epic quest for the Sword of Lig'ma-bolz but I found the various antics to be funny and recognizable. I cared a lot more about this irrelevant search for some obscure elderly author than I did about the murders, and I think that was entirely the goal.
>>23980188I'm not strictly a scifi/fantasy guy and I can enjoy a story that covers mundane pursuits but I guess I just didn't find the characters interesting. Like I said, I had interest in their interest of trying to find an obscure author. Perhaps I just didn't like the writing style. I'ts been pretty common that I've been reading a translated work and something about the writing itself has felt consistently off, but I'm a monolingual retard so I've never really been able to go to the original to compare.
>>23980195I'm not judging, anon, we all like what we like. You can give another part a try, the characters are all very different, just don't expect another type of book. I read it in Dutch, it was great.
>>23978693>impatient baby wanted dessert before the appetizer many such cases, play a stream from twitch, from kick, and then have a subway surfers compilation going in the background for minmaxing focusing and dopamine
>>23980242>you must eat tasteless paste for five courses before being allowed to eat something that resembles food
>>23980242>many such cases, play a stream from twitch, from kick, and then have a subway surfers compilation going in the background for minmaxing focusing and dopamineNo thanks, I'll rather focus on interesting books
>>23980262name one
>>23978103>killing le women is badIs that even a conclusion the text reaches, or are you bringing that to it?It's been forever since I read it but I more remember it being about some sexually frustrated lit students screwing around, boxing, a serial church-pisser, and some duchess getting railed by some horsecocked nazi. Which I think tied it back to the lit students.Like yeah women were being murdered, but even the textual point was it wasn't really that much on anybody's mind.
>>23978599Same.
>>23978693TRVKEAnd the part of the critics is one of the more action packed parts of the book>>23980151Bolaño does a shit job with the critics. Pelletier and Espinoza are so indistinguishable from one another they have sex with the same woman. The characters are uninteresting 1 dimensional NPCs that he actively avoids giving any unique traits to. He had no idea what he was doing.>>23978711>>23980242>>23980314When you read actual good literature (e.g., Moby Dick, 100 Years of Solitude, The Brothers Karamazov) you will find them engrossing, beautifully written, and profound, unlike the unedited slop Bolaño wrote.
>>23981984>failed to name one
>>23981984>And the part of the critics is one of the more action packed parts of the bookwhy do you lie on the internet?
>>23981984>When you read actual good literature (e.g., Moby Dick, 100 Years of Solitude, The Brothers Karamazov) you will find them engrossing, beautifully written, and profound, unlike the unedited slop Bolaño wrote.I did read them, and I found them engrossing, beautifully written, and profound, just like this unedited masterpiece Bolaño wrote.
>>23978694>took the bait
