All people read today is vapid romantasy crap. Or I should say all women because men apparently don't read anymore. They just play video games, listen to podcasts and wank.Where are the Hemmingways? The Pynchons? Where is the Dostoevsky of the digital age? Looking back it was kind of a short run and it makes sense. The age of the writer was sandwiched between the invention of the printing press and the internet. We have Mark Twain to McCarthy and that's it.The only contemporary writer I like is Murakami which may signal (just like in film) a cultural shift to Asia as the American empire fades. It feels like the end of an era.
>>23980604>a cultural shift to Asia as the American empire fades.Things are not looking good in nihongo either. Anime has destroyed japanese culture, you don't get novelists from japan anymore, you get light novel authors.It's the end of the great writers, because your average zoomer will never write let alone read a book.
>>23980618Whats the point when I'm bad at writing
>as the American empire fadesdelusional chiang/brown third worlder/vatnik
>>23980604>The only contemporary writer I like is MurakamiWell, look how Murakami grew up. Read Tolstoy, Dostoevsky and tons of other books while in school. No computers, no internet. Went to college during the 60s student protests, experienced the rebellious spirit of youth, counter-culture, economic boom etc. It all depends on people are socialized, experience society and are shaped by their enviroment.
>>23980631You get better by reading and then writing. Emulate the greats. And record every single idea you get in your head however stupid or retarded it may sound.
>>23980672Its just not going to happen. I'm too old. Good artists are born not made.
pynchon isn't dead, guys... why are you so dumb?
>>23980668I haven't read any of that. Man...
>>23980674No one is born an artist. Great artists are made, though I agree that have to start early in life but there are exceptions. I remember reading Micheal Haneke only started making films on his 40s.
>>23980689Nah I think its innate. I'm sick of hearing that positivity talk. Its so tiring and demotivating. People told me that since I was a baby. Its just not real.
>>23980604Excess=dilution
>>23980618>It's the end of the great writers, because your average zoomer will never write let alone read a book.I'm literally shaking right now.No, seriously. I teach at a prestigious college in my country. But every year it's flooded by people who can't understand a paragraph if they don't read and re-read it for almost half an hour. How can I ask them to understand, then, an article, let even a book? And don't get me started about their writing skills. I have asked some of my students what they like to read, and they are mute. I then asked if they even read, and most of them timidly said no.Of course the system has failed them, but they don't seem to put much from their part once you encourage them to read. They prefer social media, and who can blame them really?
>>23980689Nobody really cares if you get good at something late in life. Everyone knows Rimbaud but nobody cares about some good author who picked up a pen for the first time after 35(if that even exists)There seems to be something special about your younger years that you just can't recapture and this is across all media and artformsAlso the motivation that you have to write or else your starve probably helps a lot.Older folks who start in arts never really become more than dabblers and dilettante. Life is a caste system and not everyone makes it
>>23980733I don't read. I don't have attention or comprehension issues but I just haven't really had books available to me
>>23980604I think it's a lot harder now for male writers especially white male writers from working class backgrounds to make it in the industry since it seems to have been corrupted like every other media industry by only selecting specific people from diverse or ethnicity backgrounds. Regardless of the quality of their writing they just want to appease a certain type of middle class people who have a fetish and fixation for ticking off boxes on a list so they can brag to their woke friends and colleagues.
>>23980604>>Where are the Hemmingways? The Pynchons? Where is the Dostoevsky of the digital age?why do you want more sexual pervert bourgeois? you think the world is not pornographic enough putting whores on pedestal?
>a cultural shift to AsiaLol>as the American empire fadesLmao
>>23980733Everyone talks all messed up now and they have such bizarre sensibilities I really don't understand it. I honestly feel like I came from a different planet. I was going along my life like normal and then suddenly got dropped into this weird hell world where people are so maligned.Even people my age and older. It might sound pretentious but I just don't understand whats happened
>>23980736I think it's more that older people simply aren't capable of learning. Past 25 neuroplasticity essentially only exists in the memory center of your brain, and that's short lived as well. For reference, see your demented aunt.Past 18 you will never become fluent (not just proficient) in a foreign language for this reason.
>>23980794Yeah. I really don't see the point in living past 30 at all and I'm in my 30s
>>23980604Short answer: yes.There are no societies around writing anymore. You can still aspire to be a writer, but you can't surround yourself with other writers and lead the lifestyle of a writer. You basically have nowhere to go. Ideally you'd have a handful of writer friends, live with them in some cheap flat, share food and booze with them, spend your day hanging around pubs and the city, perhaps play some instrument on the street to afford a living. Doesn't have to be forever, but doing such a thing for a couple of years when you're young was the college of the pennyless lads back in the day.Now everything is structured, there's nothing chaotic anymore in Western society, you live by your parents, go to college if you can afford to, or become a wageslave if you can't, and then at some point you get yourself a flat and ideally move in with your wife. There's no freedom anymore. The pathetic, useless, degenerate Westerners of our days have even lost the meaning for it. The reason for this is that the dominant ethnic element is no longer the adventure loving, chaotic but outstandingly smart Germanic, but the Latin type, like Jake Paul for instance, an accomplished modern man and fully Latin in habits, customs, manners and belief.
>>23980604Male writers (and readers) are suppressed by the two things:1. Publishing industry that only advances female voices2. Technological environment that furnishes countless other occupations and diversionsThe former will likely go away eventually; no civilization can last if it puts women first, and we're already seeing the great reversal of this wave. As for the latter, I don't think it's going anywhere; engaging with novels will certainly be seen as increasingly irrelevant, and it's already up there.
>>23981144So you're against learning Latin now
>>23980604>All people read today is vapid romantasy crap.This isn't true>>23980604>>The only contemporary writer I like is Murakamilol
>>23980794People fall off not because they stop being able to learn but because they simply stop trying. At some point they decide to stop being open to experiences. Culture zips past in a few years, within ten years they no longer understand technology, if they make it twenty years they have nothing to talk about except how crazy and stupid all the young people are. But people who simply choose to stay engaged rather than scoffing at every zeitgeist can stay mentally adroit right into the coffin.
>>23981173No, I find the cause of Western civilization to be rooted in the sudden predominance of the Latin type, who are also the more numerically large. Basically Western society has a Germanic ueberbau and a Latin unterbau, to use Hegelian dialectical terms. However, the Germanic ueberbau is withering, crumbling, and all that's left is the Latin unterbau. Not that the same can't be applied to the ancient Latins. Their society had a Latin ueberbau, and a Semitic unterbau. The Latin ueberbau collapsed, and the Semitic unterbau remained.The only Latins worth reading are the ones who wrote before the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, because they still come from a time when the Latins were a master race.The Latins from the later eras don't really deserve to be named Latins, but Semitized Latins.And neither can there be spoken of proper Germanics, but of Latinized Germanics.I don't know what more to add. It's a highly complex topic only true masterminds can comprehend.
>>23981233But have you learned Latin or any Germanic language
>>23981233It's Jews.
>>23981240I have recently written a lengthy essay in German. I actually looked up the ratio between Latin and Germanic words used, out of 400 words, approximately 20 were of Latin origin, largely terms related to government and organization. And yet, how so superior is the organization of the US in face of the decrepit state of Mexico! And yet, it looks like the Germanics are about to get struck by the same faith that had the Romans in their time, of devolving from a respectable master race to the by the Anglo-Americans so rightfully despised 'Latinos', as if belonging to an inferior human variety. And yet, it is the action of the once so masterful action of the old Latin spirit inside their veins that the modern Germanics are so rapidly devolving. They point their fingers towards the Mexicans, they can't look within themselves.
>>23981271This isn't good writing
>Alpha as fuck
>>23981271Esl?
>>23980604Don't worry, I will save it. You should get to work also.
>>23980604Blame the publishers. They are more corrupt than you would assume.
>>23981285What's with women and their obsession with besmirching a man's legacy?
>>23980738You know there are books are on the internet for free right? Public domain books. I suspect there may be some underlying issues here.
>>23981281>>23981287Say something. Don't be like woman, calling everything that you don't understand as stupid.
>>23981330I didn't call it stupid it genuinely doesn't read well and doesn't have a logical flow. I can't parse your point
>>23981323I need physical books and I don't own a computer
>>23981336The point is that Western society of our days is heavily disordered. It is no longer a serious society. The only ticket to success is being filthy rich, just like in modern Turkey and other countries immersed in Semitism and Latinism, and where law and order is more important than freedom.
>>23981357And how does that relate to the op
>>23981366Well there will be no great men anymore in the West. The only way to be hip and cool is to have a huge mansion in wich you make fun parties only shallow boring rich people are allowed into. What else am I going to say? I have been watching Turkish TV series recently and I can tell no difference between the main characters and your average rich ig kiddie from the West in the way they act and behave. You don't have to be great if the audience is only impressed by things only spoiled rich kiddies can be impressed by. They aren't cultured, they aren't literate, they're just rich and refined.
>>23981377Ok
>>23981383And that is a very sad and pathetic report about the modern West. Us, us Germanics have founded, built this society and now we can't even be ourselves anymore. Elon Musk is a Germanic man, he's rich, he builds rockets. Ig kiddies are Mediterraneans, they are rich, they blow it on becoming vain and stupid.
>>23981391Imagine writing garbage like this and not even proofreading before posting it. Really eager to prove the stereotype of the retarded, uneducated racist, huh?
>>23981397I'm not shaming Mediterraneans, I'd say I can even sympathize with their way of life or else I wouldn't be watching Turkish TV series. They are merely useless for the making of a serious society. They could in antiquity, but they have lost that power and the Germanics are loosing it too. They are becoming like the Latins.
>>23980604Complains about the lack of male writers. Completely ignores the/lit/ Renaissance.
>>23980604>Where are the Hemmingways? The Pynchons? Where is the Dostoevsky of the digital age? Looking back it was kind of a short run and it makes sense. The age of the writer was sandwiched between the invention of the printing press and the internet. We have Mark Twain to McCarthy and that's it.Youre a naive idiot if you think that we could still produce le great art anymore. You know the first non verbal lesson that we learn in film or any other art school is that we will never be a great artist, that everything is decaying, and we're advancing towards grand annihilation. Why do you think that every literature, cine, music are either good or bad? Because we can only measure them by entertainment level, for any artistical attempt would be seen as a useless pseud take (which it did) by pretentious people. Wanna now why? Because 'artist' that lived in our era right now are not an 'artist'. They are copycat, a fraud. In any metrics they are not even in the same level as the modernist artist from 60 years ago. The supplementary that was given to them are not sufficient enough to make them an artist, for example, how much of these 'artists' that were grown with poetry? Philosophy? Or bar low, the non academic one, the life? Nothing. They werent shaped to be one either. So artist is a lost relic, something that will not exist in millennial or afterwards generation, even I'd argue that the entire thing has been drying out since gen x era. No anon. Art have been replaced by design and here we are. Everything have to be designed, planned, reasonable, everything have to be rational, serve themselves as solution, and ignore subjectivity. This is the era that we lived right now
>>23981456And I am supposed to further show any respect for this pathetic society founded by my own very ancestors who had an entirely different concept in mind? I don't, I spit on it, I am barely even a tax paying citizen, I don't give a fuck anymore, I don't need this society anymore, it's Maccadonalds goyslop taken from the trash can, I spit on it, and I no longer care about it's well-being. I no longer want to serve it's predilections. I am, in thought and behaviour as well as physiognomy, a fossil from the Middle Ages. Even 50 years ago I'd still have fit in. The problem is that this society is no longer built for founding stock like me, because they have been declared virtually extinct. There's no special rights for people like me anymore, no legislation that reserves us the rights that our nature demands.
>>23981285That's what it takes to create masterpieces, philistines
>>23980604He looks like he hides 70s kiddie porn zines I'm his desk and hires teenager male prostitutes.
>>23981233Latins and Germans kneel to the Greek übermench
>>23981557>Britt said that the state police and the FBI were after them at one point – McCarthy feared being found guilty of statutory rape or in breach of the Mann Act, which criminalises trafficking
>>23980677He could as well be. Has been writing very mediocre books for a really long time now. What was his last great one? Mason and Dixon?
>>23981285>motel poolbased nigga writing his life into his books
>>23980604youre on 4chan asking if great art can still be playedshut the fuck up faggot
>>23981557True he does look pretty based
>>23980604I'm reading the travelog of a 1920s expedition through the horn of Africa.
