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>>23984408

Too late mate. I've given up after the sea voyage to beg another feudal lord for help. I couldn't help but think "Haven't you done this already? If you wanted to write about intrigue then why did you cut it off at the knees in the first half of the book?"

Everything is just so boring. The dwarves and elves are boring, the MC is such a sad sack of shit with no agency in the plot, the invaders are also so boring with them using retarded battle tactics like attacking at night and only one side of a castle like it's some poor man's helms deep.
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How is he reading books while dead?
https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/83357.Avram_Davidson
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Reading Tad Williams again. He continues to be the one thing I look for in a writer: fun.
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Any other books with funny protagonists like Cugel? I know about Nifty the Lean already.
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Anyone read anything by Fel before? Subjugation/Karrin Tael Firestaff series.
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I find it very weird that Star Trek has it's own 'Expanded Universe' of books that might actually outnumber Star Wars but NOBODY talks about it like the SW EU, nobody mentions or ever brings up any of it, the only one I ever heard referenced consistently was the one Shatner wrote to resurrect Kirk. That's weird to me. Arguably Trek lends itself way more to long-form prose than something as action-oriented as Star Wars.
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>>23985236
Because Star Trek EU doesn't have any tour de force works like Thrawn Trilogy, didn't establish iconic chracters like Mara Jade, didn't do anything controversial like the Youzhanin Wong war etc. It's just sort of there
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How we feeling about a new witcher book, lads? I know the novels were mediocre to decent and season of storms pretty shit, but im ready to give the fat polish cunt another chance.
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Who up imbibing their sogum?
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>>23985280
>How we feeling about a new witcher book, lads?
don't really care desu
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bought the blacktongue thief from a book fair. what am i in for?
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>#9 of all books on Amazon on release day
>tv show in the works with other multimedia shit that I am personally not enthused about
Discuss Dungeon Crawler Carl before it continues plummeting into the mainstream and we attract even more filthy icky normalfags.
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>>23985309
Read Between Two Fires instead.
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>>23985334
The series has always been for normalfags.
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Read Krieg and currently going through The Siege of Vraks and Steve Lyon just fucking sucks at writing descriptions and giving the audience information that they may ask for. I mean, for crying out loud we're half way into the book and finally it tells you that the fortress is protected by a void shield. At times it just feels like he just gives you the minimum of information because not even he knows what's there and can't paint you a vivid picture
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>>23985280
Pozzed.
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read the first law trilogy
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>>23985334
The Series has always been for normies since the author didn't kill the cat in book one, but gave it "lol so randum xxD" reddit and grandma facebook jokes, and Carl became a fucking carpet for everyone to laugh at.
But I guess yoy cat piss drinking faggots would enjoy that. Glurp glurp.
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>>23985309
An objectively good YA-ish action book. It's fun. That said, I agree with the othet anon in saying that Between Two Fires is a much better book from the same guy.
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>>23985423
avoid the age of madness though
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>>23985446
>avoid the age of madness though
why?
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>>23985475
It has female characters so it intimidates incels, also no Nicomo Coska
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>>23985334
This is normal fag shit you venomous flapping cunt. Good lord society is dead.
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>>23985334
>tv show
Only way this could work if its animated
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>>23985334
>Join Coast Guard vet Carl and his ex-girlfriend's cat, Princess Donut
princess donut...
i cant read that shite
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>>23985564
BUT IT'S WACKY!!!
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>>23984475
The Domes of Calrathia
Gigaheroes
by Isaac young (Trantor publishing)
https://isaacyoung.substack.com/s/the-domes-of-calrathia
https://isaacyoung.substack.com/s/gigaheroes
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What’s that really trippy sci-fi book that wasn’t written by Philip K. Dick?
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>>23985594
What, Voyage to Arcturus?
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>>23985601
That’s the one. (Looks it up.) “Gender bending?” Is this a book of faggotry?
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>>23985441
You've been bitching about the cat in particular for at least two years, which is giving everyone else something to laugh at.
>>23985530
Agreed. Feels like it'll be censored either way and definitely toned down.
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Just finished this one because I wanted to read some "classic" fantasy an it was absolutely awful.
Maybe it was a different experience reading this in the 80s, but it didn't age well at all. Flat writing, not a single memorable character, lame and predictable plot. Not to mention half of it is a straight up LOTR rip-off.
Does it get better with the sequels or should I give up on this series?
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>>23985670
>giving everyone else something to laugh at
If you think they aren't laughing at you cat piss drinking fuck, I don't know what to tell you.
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I want to reread Bakker but I also want to read new books too
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>>23985831
Thanks for continuing to bump DCC discussion, cat autist.
Are you the cuck shitposter too?
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>>23985710
Give up and read something else.
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>>23985710
The Wertzone guy says The Empire Trilogy (co-written by Feist and Janny Wurts) is the best of the series and is actually the best writing of their respective ouvres, and it can be read alone.
https://thewertzone.blogspot.com/2018/04/gratuitous-lists-twenty-great-complete.html
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>"ah... this well-liked western fantasy is kinda dragging and going nowhere. lets take a break."
>proceed to finish a whole series of chink webnovel that's at least 40 times longer
I have shit taste.
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>>23986356
i'm the same way with smutty manhwa
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>it's another the-party-travels-in-leagues episode
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>>23986047
>This is your brain on toxoplasmosis.
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If Narnia is the eggnog of fantasy, then what is orange juice?
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>>23985236
The difference is the Trek EU was never canon. SW EU was considered the official continuation of the saga until Disney bought it.
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>>23985710
If you don't like Magician, you're probably not going to like Feist's other books. You should try to read the Empire trilogy like >>23986354 said since it's totally different.
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>Jesus has to run a secret covert ops organization because God is losing it
So this... is fantasy on Mormonism.
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>>23985236
The only Star Trek book I've ever read was one of the ones written by Shatner. He might be ok at eating scenery but writing ain't what he knows best. If Star Trek V didn't already prove that.
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>>23985280
>teenage geraldo
hard to make the book sound more unappealing than this
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>>23985423
slop
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>>23985493
who could help but be intimidated by abercombie's female characters who are the smartest strongest most capable most clever most brilliant individuals in all of fantasy
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>>23985334

The series is pretty much reddit tier with the big lesson being Capitalism = le bad.
Rich people basically buy godhood so they can squish the poor people. Most of the people who pay to hunt the unwilling contestants are actually innocent because they are corporate worker types who get ‘forced’ by their CEO’s to accompany them. And don’t forget the whole thing started with an unfair corporate agreement to hand the entirety of earth over and the corporations don’t hold up their side of the bargain.

There is one funny moment in the fifth book were one hunter goes:
>“We have to hunt you because it’s the only way I can get enough money to patch up the habitats on the inhospitable hellhole that our race lives on”
>“But the galaxy is a big place, can’t you just move somewhere else?”
>”Yes, you would think that” Dude walks away and refuses to elaborate.
Also it taps another thing with overpopulation being bad, which I am sure is a real hit with the reddit types since they are anti-natalist Neo-Malthusian types.

But I do genuinely think that the series is just way too long for it’s own good. Why 18 floors? Considering that on average they seem to be clearing 2 floors a book. That would mean that by the time the series is finished it would probably be 9-12 books unless they pull an SAO end to dungeon plot twist.
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>>23986462
I hate this everything has to be connected autism. Marvel is blight upon humanity.
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>>23986873
Man, having politics being rent free in your head 24/7 must be a nightmare. You faggots see the enemy in everything.
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What fantasy books the best encapsulate the encapsulate the medieval setting? I'm not necessary talking about books with gritty realistic settings, just ones that give of the strongest medieval feel.
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>>23986982
you're probably guilty of this as well, i glanced at his post, saw it was about politics and stopped reading. meanwhile you got angry at it, i don't think you'd do that if you were as nonchalant as you claim
physician, heal thyself
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>>23986990
doomsday book
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>>23986992
Im not angry, im just tired of the same posts where anons project their political beliefs onto a book and claim it something for or against their cause. If someone was trying to writing a book going by what doesnt offend an anon, we'd have the most bland derivative book in existence
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How long would it take to dig a big enough hole to fuck everything up again?
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I just finished the call of cthulhu and I'm starting to suspect Lovecraft was not a fan of brown people
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>>23987112
Not just brown people. The one that always amused me was Shadow over Innsmouth - he wrote it as a response to learning that he had Irish ancestry, which is why the narrator starts turning into a fishman at the end.
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>>23987117
To be fair, I would also be horrified if I learned I would die without a steady diet of whisky and potatoes
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>>23987112
He wasn't a fan of foreigners in general desu
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>>23986992
DCC has nothing at all whatsoever to do with "capitalism" and that anon is a typical generic newfag looking to shitpost about politics. It's like the cat autist can only make personal ad hom attacks related to cats. Like a cat-flavored Chatbot.

DCC will be around 10 books
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>>23985236
>star trek
I think people who are into reading science fiction have generally better taste than that. But I'm not sure why SW books are that popular, maybe because it's unashamedly pulpy and more like fantasy.
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>>23985423
I have, I was underwhelmed. Excited for The Devils though
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>>23987237

A stitch in time is kino
Way better than the sloppa that people post about here routinely. Certainly better than the meme authors or Dan Simmons
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>>23985423
I'm reading it now actually. It's pretty great.
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I finished The Left Hand of Darkness the other day and I liked it better than the Earthsea books, but then again I read those some ten years ago so maybe I don't remember enough about them. I found the characters and the writing style itself rather bland, but some ideas were interesting and the entire trek through the frozen desert was my favourite part. Estraven's death was a surprise, sort of, even though the foreshadowing was definitely there.
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>>23986990
"Between Two Fires"
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>>23987145
DCC is for faggots.
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>>23986356
>chink webnovel
Example?
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>>23985423
The first law Trilogy is underwhelming. it has a promising first book, and then slowly descends in quality after that.
So reading the trilogy is only necessary to establish the world for later better books. Best Served Cold, Heroes, and Red Country are all better.

>>23985446
>>23985475
The age of madness is better.
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>>23986410
What do you mean by this? Is it a reference to something?
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>>23986990
Green Knight, Pearl, Sir Orfeo
Beowulf edited by Tolkien
Finn and Hengest
The Fall of Arthur
Sigurd and Gudrun
Kullervo
Aotrou and Itroun
Roland
Cid
Nibelungenlied
Eddas
Harold Kraki's Saga
Huon
Alexander
William Morris' romances
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>>23987450
Masterful bait mr. anon.
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>>23987668
Not baiting at all. Joe Abercrombie grew as an artist. It's really common for an artists mid to late works to outshine their early works.
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>>23986990
the lack of proper faces in the foreground gives this a spooky quality
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>>23984835
I tried reading the Dragonbone Chair and hated the protagonist and the pacing was not promising knowing how long the series is. By page 50 (a little soon, sure, but fuck it) I'd wagered that Tad is one of /those/ writers who insists on writing insufferable fucking losers as protagonists we spend too much time with who only get a moderate amount of growth over a too-lengthy series considering.

Convince me otherwise.
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>>23987738
I'm wondering why the background characters have more features.
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>>23986990
This part is for me the weirdest moment in the Arthurian mythos. Just random prophetic fighting dragons under a castle.
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>>23987755
Not that anon. But you're correct about that book. I'm not sure about Tad's whole whole discography. But I read Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn, because some of the Game of Thrones youtubers reference it a lot.
There really is little to no growth in that series. Everything felt so flat.
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>>23984872
Rance. Apparently VNs don't count as games, so that makes them books.
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>>23987421
>The Left Hand of Darkness
People today would be crying over how WOKE it is.
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>>23987841
I'm reading it right now and was wondering if I'd ever see it brought-up here without someone shitting themselves. Only just past the three-day exodus though so ain't clickin' that spoiler up above. Cool story so far, not sure I'm into her writing style, but I can appreciate it.
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>>23987810
No, they aren't books either.
>what are they then
VNs.
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What's this book called? I forgor
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what are you fellas reading lately? I need something.
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>>23987867
>Second Foundation
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>>23987872
Trying to catch up with the Babylon 5 EU books
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>>23987867
>this is that cute tomboy I was telling you about
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Anything in the same vein as Richard Calder's Dead girls trilogy? Not necessarily his amphetamine fueled ramblings about underage Thai hookers, but the crazy tech such as the organic spray-on clothes with synthetic nerves and neuronal links.
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>>23987872
Nevermind, I'm already sorted >>23987890
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>>23987888
You weren't wrong.
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>>23986451
People really believe this?
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>>23988009
I don't think there's a single person who thought George was beholden to the EU except for the most deluded autists, for decades the EU was playing catch up whenever he contradicted them like Sheev saying the Republic had lasted 1000 years when in the EU it was like 25000.
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>>23984872
What's the little scorpion supposed to be under Cugel's cloak?
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>>23985334
Bump.
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>>23988040
That's Firx
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lads, recommend some good fantasy novels, please.
some recent stuff.

i might be committing a crime here, but what about that yaros woman? i am asking about her because every book she wrote was just published here in special editions.
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>>23988207
I'm currently reading The First Law trilogy and it's pretty good so far.
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>recent stuff
>first law
fucking chatbots in this thread
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>>23988234
thanks, anon, but those aren't recent. but thank you for the suggestion. i have the first one but haven't read it.
again, thanks, nevertheless.

please suggest books published after 2021.
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over the last few months ive found it difficult to care about any fiction
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>>23988207
what are your standards for "good" and "recent"? because a lot of people post that sort of shit and then start nitpicking every suggestion
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>>23985280
Lol I'm polish and this is the first I've heard of it. I'll probably read it someday.
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>>23984475
Sorry for asking for recommendations, but after looking among OP's chart I'm baffled I can't find exactly the type of book I'm looking for, as I assumed it'd be a common one.
I'm in the mood for D&D style of HIGH fantasy (at least common magic and monsters, but omnipresent sentient species beyond humans'd also be nice, though not a must) and adventure, the usual SMALL group of penniless mercenaries get into a dungeon stuff, so no homeric wars (or at least the group of protags just participate in them as foot soldiers and nothing else), destined kids, nor single barbarian/ powerful wizard, only some bros (no problem with female characters and povs) getting by with their swords and spells doing any kind of quests.
>Inb4 "Just read Dragonlance, Gotrek & Felix or similar books"
You see, now comes the true problem: I want something well written/ more complex than the usual teen stuff.
The difference between Mushishi and any Isekai, if you understand what I mean.

I'm no expert in the genre, but I liked Malaz, aSoIaF, Black Company and The Witcher, while disliking Mistborn and Name of the Wind.
Of course none of these books are the kind I'm looking for (Malaz and Geralt's would be the closest, I guess, but the first is MUCH more epic/ grand, and the second focused on a single character, instead of a little band of comrades), just examples of what I'd say is well written fantasy.
Anyway, thanks in advance.
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>>23988306
hum, recent: after 2021.
good: well, here I have to go by mentioning that I do not want to be preached at. I want an author who seeks to entertain, not lecture or indoctrinate. I don't want political shit in disguise.

for instance, from here, what would you recommend:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/most-gifted/books/4034595031?ref_=Oct_d_omg_S&pd_rd_w=bKmzQ&content-id=amzn1.sym.ec8f623a-d4f7-4017-b387-58abf6ea18ca&pf_rd_p=ec8f623a-d4f7-4017-b387-58abf6ea18ca&pf_rd_r=BDZB0VXF144D47SS4GRW&pd_rd_wg=l1HxI&pd_rd_r=7946c38e-7d3e-47b1-b4bb-bab8f8509b5a

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Sellers-Books-Fantasy/zgbs/books/279254/ref=zg_bs_nav_books_2_4034595031

ah, anyone here has read The Goblin Emperor? I know it's not recent, but I was gifted this book some time ago and I sort of enjoy the synopsis.

thanks in advance.
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>>23988318
Delicious in Dungeon
Dungeon People
Iw It Wrong to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon?
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>>23984475
>>23988318
Shit, after writing all that I just realized I could just said this:
"TLDR, I'm Looking for The Hobbit but for adults"
Or Conan but with five guys and more psychology introspection and drama.

>>23988326
Not looking for comics/ manga, although I did watch the first episode of Dungeon People... and not a fan at all.
Dungeon Meshi REALLY attracts me, but I'm waiting for it to be finished.
Thanks, anyway.
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>>23988207
It can be very difficult to tell whether someone is completely ignorant, trolling, or some combination of both.
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>>23988318
>>23988344
There's a upper limit to how well-written and for adults what your asking for can be. Not because of the content, but rather because those who are considered to be as such don't write that.
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>>23988379
Yeah, I fear what I'm asking for just doesn't exist, which is weird because at the very least I could see it being commercially successful.
I don't think everyone who enjoys high fantasy adventures are fine just with Drizzt and Vox Machina level of quality.
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>>23988398
To be fair, your requirements are very restrictive, as it's very heavy on specific tropes and plot points.
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>>23988404
Yeah, just with my quick search among OP's pics I saw a group of equally important protags instead of a single one alone is fairly uncommon. And the "travelling around the world living adventures for the sake of it" instead of a "normal" plot too, unless you go with the classical Sword and Sorcery route, and to find a combination of both seems impossible.
I guess I was misguided by vidya into thinking D&D'd be much more influential that it is in literature.
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>>23988421
Even the many hundreds of d&d novels aren't like that aside from a few and then the ones that are campaign module novelizations. There's litrpgs, but those don't fit your quality requirement. There are light novels, but same. There's manga, which is a different matter. You also contradict yourself somewhat because an adult hobbit wouldn't be anything like you've described.
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>>23985334
>Katia's scars
:(
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>>23985334
Did that little fruit Jeff Hays give any excuse why the audiobook is delayed for 3 months?
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>>23985309
the "sequel" , Daughter's War is way better, makes more sense
after reading both, BTT is like 30% and DW 70% of all the cool stuff
all his books are very different! wont hurt to try em all
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>>23987886
>Babylon 5 EU books
how do they compare next to star wars and star trek eu novels?
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>>23987755
You don't have to like everything other people like.
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>>23988277
But it is recent though? The year 2000 is the cut-off point. Everything this millennium is recent.
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>>23988344
>Dungeon Meshi REALLY attracts me, but I'm waiting for it to be finished.
But its finished?
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I finished the first Thomas Covenant trilogy. Kind of overrated desu.
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>>23988909
I thought the fact that the third book actually had a positive payoff was pretty satisfying after the utter bleakness of the first two, but I could see why someone wouldn't like it in general. You go back to bleak in book 4.
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>>23988915
The first book was really good, I loved the world building especially. But after the first book it just felt like it was bogged down in pointless shit a lot of the time and the plot was going nowhere.
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>>23988918
imo Troy offered a nice contrast to Thomas with how readily he embraced The Land.
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>>23988868
b-but how will you belong then?
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>>23988918
after the first book, or alternatively the first trilogy, it increasingly started feeling like torture porn.
i don't know if i regret reading all the books. on the one hand, they made me miserable, on the other it was pretty impressive how creative the author got with torturing the land. in this genre, you so often you encounter books which try to describe a world of evil by saying vague things like how incomprehensibly bad everything was, how it was hellish, how it was miserable, how it was oppressive, but practically never do you get any details. these books give you the details very vividly. i appreciate that in a way, because every time an author refuses to elaborate on this subject, it makes me think "you thought you weren't a good enough writer to describe this and you were probably right"
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>>23988949
With passion. This is our only common cause.
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>>23987886
Pretty good, they were endorsed by the show creator so you can consider it "episodes that were never made"
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>>23989082

meant to >>23988848
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Read An Instruction in Shadow, sequel to An Inheritance of Magic which came out last year. Feels a lot more meandering and badly paced, and honestly it should've been trimmed down and made the first half of a book instead of its own thing.
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>>23988442
>Even the many hundreds of d&d novels aren't like that aside from a few
Not an expert in that as I only read a few as a kid, but both those and the Warhammer fantasy novels I read back then were VERY close to what I'm looking for (except, of course, the quality and mature focus part), and just a quick glance in summaries of other D&D books make me think you are mistaking me giving as much info as possible as an OPTIMAL book to facilitate people here, with me expecting to get a 100% perfect book made in heaven personally for me.
>adult hobbit wouldn't be anything
Even ignoring the obvious fact I was doing a simplifying summary (you know, a TL,DR), a bunch of dwarves, a thief and a wizard travelling the world to steal a dragon while encountering goblins, sentient animals and elves, and an invisibility ring owned by a magical mutant, all to end in a big battle, not to save the world but to conquer a profitable mountain, is obviously pretty close to what I'm asking for premise wise.

>>23988905
Had no idea, will check it out some time in the future, then.
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Why isn't Inherit the Stars a better known series here? One of my favourite sci-fi series and the author was also accused of being anti-semitic.

I only learned about the series through a Japanese friend. Apparently it's big there.
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I’m about halfway through Anathem. It’s been comfy math monk slice of life so far, but man, I can feel that the story is about to go off the rails. Of course, even if all the apocalyptic hints are a fake out, I think it still would be an enjoyable read.
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>>23989264
They should've never left the math.
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>>23989237
not much marketing i guess. if it helps, i just read your post while i was close to finishing the books i was currently reading i downloaded all 5 of ur series. if you're memeing me, i'll soon know and i won't waste much of my time. but if you were serious, thanks for the recc
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>>23989283
Well, I won't spoil things, but if you get to the end of book 2 or 3 you'll realize why it's not better known in general, but it's still something that I could see popular with people here.

First three books were awesome, last two books probably shouldn't have been written, post back and let me know what you think. Enjoy.
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>>23984475
Who are the most notable deaths of the year?
https://sf-encyclopedia.com/timeline.php?rip

Here's my top 4 picks
Bisson, Terry died 10 January 2024
Priest, Christopher died 2 February 2024
Stableford, Brian M died 24 February 2024
Vinge, Vernor died 20 March 2024

There's still the rest of the month and December and if there's anyone notable I can revise it.
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>>23989340
Christopher Priest
>Fugue for a Darkening Island (published in the US as Darkening Island) is a dystopian novel by Christopher Priest.[1] First published in 1972, it describes a man's struggle to protect his family and himself in a near future England ravaged by civil war. The violence is brought about by a new far-right political party entering government, voted in to combat a massive influx of African refugees. Those refugees are aligned with the principal opposition faction, known as the Secessionists, leading to a multi-sided conflict.
umm based?
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>>23989403
Didn't Christopher Priest write for Marvel comics?
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>>23989340

>Vinge bought it without writing a decent last book for zones of thought

FffffffffffffffffffffffffffUCK
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Which one should I read next: The Gods Themselves by Asimov or We by Zamyatin?
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>>23989440
zones of thought? what fucking zones of thought? more like zones of fucking talking foxes
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What's the best fantasy book with a morbidly obese protagonist?
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>>23989723
Captain Bluebear's 13 and 1/2 lives, though he's morbidly obese for only one chapter
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>>23989728
based Walter Moers enjoyer
>tfw no books translated since 2012 (5 books in the Zamonia series have been released since then)
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>>23988459
I don't do audiobooks so no idea. I think the audiobook is always a few months after the actual prose. He does cold reads in the meantime.
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>>23989237
>Why isn't Inherit the Stars a better known series here?
There really isn't much discussion: https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=%22inherit+the+stars%22
Ultimately, /lit/ is a poor place to discuss books because the board (and arguably the greater website as a whole) does not branch out beyond their comfort zone of reading some Top 5 "in-vogue" bestselling book or series, and then roleplaying as if that particular book/series is the greatest creation of all humanity.
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>>23989237
Never heard of it. Give me a rundown anon
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I wish there were some comers figs I could buy. Vin or Dalinar
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>>23984475
I've been reading some of the titles in this infographic, but it seems more than half of what you would call dark fantasy simply takes the "and then the bad man tried to sexually assault the little girl" route, and it's getting fucking annoying. If anyone knows some dark fantasy that's a bit more nuanced, I'd appreciate it.
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>>23989964
kane. karl edward wagner kane, not caine
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There really isn't much discussion.
Ultimately, nowhere is a suitable place to discuss books in general because people don't branch out beyond their comfort zone of reading some Top 5 "in-vogue" bestselling book or series, and then establish a fandom that declares that particular book/series is the greatest creation of all humanity.
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>>23989969
I'll give it a shot.
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>>23989972
>>23989891
this place can't be that bad, since it has luminaries such as yourself posting
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>>23989972
I agree that there is no decent book discussion on the internet; and for different reasons, that my statement needed proofreading.
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/lit/ calls this slop, but it's actually kino and I want to continue the series. How do the following books compare?
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/lit/ calls this <newfag buzzword> but it's actually <newfag buzzword that means film> and I want to continue the series. How do the following films compare?
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>>23990028
Glad I could trigger you anon, thanks for the laugh.
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>>23990021
/sffg/ isn't /lit/. The Way of Kings is among the most read and highly rated of all sff here. Don't listen to the vocal minority who say otherwise.
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>>23989340
>Priest died this year
fuck
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>>23985280
Cash grab.
Hopefully it will be a collection of short stories, which is what Sapkowski can write.
>>23988313
No wonder, these fuckers haven't done any real advertisement.
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>>23990021
I'm here for the first time in years waiting to see if an epub falls off a truck before next Friday. That's how much I enjoy this series.
And waited on a 900 second timer to post. What the fuck has happened to this shithole?
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>>23990141
That helmet looks heavy as hell.
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>>23990141
blud looks like one of those hyperborean edits
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>>23990210
Why would you come here for that? It'd be someone posting it from getting from somewhere else. Do you not know where to get stuff? As for the 15 min timer, that's one of the various new protective measures. You can read about them elsewhere.
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>>23984475
This Inevitable Ruin, Dungeon Crawler Carl #7 - Matt Dinniman

This is the craziest and longest book in the series so far. It's also the first one where I had to wait for the next book since I started reading the series. Once again I was struck by how wild it is and how it continually finds ways to be fun and awesome. However, this was also the first time I considered whether it was too much of a good thing. So much happens and so much changes that it makes me wonder what the next book will be like. The ever increasing level of entropy doesn't seem sustainable, but perhaps that's irrelevant and the narrative has only begun to reveal how absurd it truly can become. Considering what's happened it's possible for the series to end at any time, though I can imagine various scenarios where it becomes more intense and focused or more expansive and epic.

The commentary becomes more serious and pointed as well. What was most notable to me was how the more everything collapses the more engaged the audience becomes. The audience is so enraptured by catastrophe as content that they find themselves unable to be concerned about it in their own lives, let alone do anything about it. That too may extend to the reader. I also continue appreciate everything else and what I interpret it to mean. There are those who prefer not to read anything into any of it at all, and I believe that to also be entirely suitable and that their enjoyment won't suffer for it.

As with previous book, and may be the trend going forward, it's frontloaded with going through achievements and rewards, discussing the floor, strategies, people, equipment, and preparatory work in general. It's a lot, probably more than any previous book. The entire first part, The Ceasefire, is literally about preparation for war. Once the ceasefire ends, it really is war. There's even atrocity-class spells, including one called War Crime, which definitely lives up to its name.

I don't know if it's just how I feel about it, but I believe the series started as a litrpg with science fantasy elements and now has become a science fantasy with litrpg elements. Though its absurdist, surrealist, and even bizarre elements have are also increasingly more prominent. It's also more horrific, but maybe not in a way that'd qualify it is as horror.

It's an impressive series and yet I'm surprised by its reception. It would seem that all the books will also be traditionally published and there are various other media projects in the works. Considering its content, I still have considerable doubt that it can become vastly more popular than it already is, but I'd like to be proven wrong.

Rating: 4.5/5
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>>23986356
>read synopsis
>I was X Y Z, BUT L HAPPENED?!?! AND Z IS ACTUALLY X???
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>>23990284
Does the cat turn into a human and carl fucks it yet? That is what it will end up as right? Some furry shit while carl gives the AI a footjob?
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>>23990397
No. No. No.
Excerpt:
Donut sniffed angrily. “Carl, if this turns into some weird, furry porn thing, I’m going to lose my absolute shit.”
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>>23990463
even better, fourthwall bending, selfaware, Whedonesque winking at the reader
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>>23989891
Fair enough, let's change that then.

>>23989914
It's 2027 in a different timeline and man is just about to go to the moon for the first time. The astronauts land on the moon and... find a dead astronaut in a completely different space suit. The first book is humanity trying to figure out WTF is going on. The next two books are also really good and follow on, but the final two are kinda crap.
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>>23990284
>ever increasing level of entropy doesn't seem sustainable, but perhaps that's irrelevant and the narrative has only begun to reveal how absurd it truly can become
Lol. Remember the part where they arrive at the amplification ceremony when the Architect Warlord dude operated on some people, and Carl said something about it being so grotesque that he wouldn't even describe it? Meanwhile in Kaiju: Battlefield Surgeon, every bit of it would have been described, to the exact way the viscera slides down the wall. It's wild reading 7 books of this and thinking that while they both are inhumanely DARK, this is a romp in the flower park compared to something like KBS. It can always get darker with much more vivid descriptions.
>>23990397
There's a part early on where Donut explicitly states that Carl gaining a monster girl harem is not the planned narrative.
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>>23990539
I remember that. (I read the manga.) IIRC there was some guff about the asteroid-belt being the wreckage of an interplanetary war. Which is bullshit; that's not how our solar system works.
Quite a lot of it was too much for me to swallow so I dropped it.
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>>23989964
>No Philip K. Dick
>Dune is "shit"
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>>23990556
I couldn't take seriously any list that said otherwise.
>>23989237
Give me a single reason why it should be better known. I'm not enough of a /pol/tard to read a book just because the author hates the joos.
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>>23990542
Yes, I've seen you post about such before. I haven't decided whether to try reading his other series.
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>>23990577
He has a few different series. I am obviously now wary because I don't read horror and was completely blindsided by Kaiju. I have heard that Dominion of Blades is like a middle ground (between KBS and DCC) but DoB is also an unfinished trilogy. The premise of his Shivered Sky trilogy sounds intriguing yet dark, and I probably won't read The Grinding.
If you ever read KBS, just read until the amplification ritual (the first 20-25%) and if you can tolerate that, then you should tolerate anything that happens afterward.
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Books with these vibes? no im not a woman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STIsEKfZLsQ
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Germanbros, any good German ADULT fantasy (so no Funke, Moers, Ende, etc)? I have heard good things about Hennen (The Elven) and mid things about Heitz (The Dwarves) and Hohlbein.
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>>23990639
Oh, and I'm able to read in German by the way. And I like Gothic games, their vibe and atmosphere.
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>>23990639
Deutsche Mythologie
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>>23988318
Abercrombie and similar stuff(like Michael Fletcher or Nicholas Eames)?
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>>23990653
>is a treatise
I will take a look, but that's not what I want.
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Galactic Patrol, E.E. "Doc" Smith

From a historical perspective, it's interesting to take a look at the beginnings of a genre, and see the seeds that later grew into ultra-popular franchises like Star Wars and Dune, and to note how little there is in these newer space operas that wasn't already present in Smith's writing.
There's the hero who becomes part of a society of galactic warriors of justice who gains access to seemingly supernatural abilities, including telepathy, remote viewing, mind control and more. There's the signature mythical melee weapon of the heroes, in this case a kind of space halberd. And I love Smith's coinage of words - he literally just calls it "space axe". The alien mentor who trains the hero to use his magical abilities is just named... Mentor.
Very little betrays the fact the story is written in the 1930s... well okay there are some clues. Like "computer" being a profession and not a gadget. Women barely existing and barely being considered people. The heroes being quasi-military supercops with the unlimited carte blanche to act as judge, jury and executioner in any part of the galaxy and kill anyone on the spot for being evil. And everyone is okay with this because Lensmen are known to be incorruptible - they just are okay? This stuff is quite something to read. The protagonist, Kimball Kinnison, despite the obvious parallels, feels less like Luke or Paul, and reminds me more of Stardust the Super Wizard, especially as the story progresses and his powers keep growing ever absurdly stronger. There's quite the contrast between his murderhobo exploits and the light-hearted old timey english "pip-pip, bally-hoo old chaps" dialogue.
However I must give some credit to the Doc, despite the story being essentially hyperbolic capeshit, he never forgets he's writing SCIENCE fiction, and he's almost autistically obsessed with staying true to physical laws - both to the real laws of physics like Newton's Three and thermodynamics, but also the ones he made up - somehow, in spite of all its bizarreness, this book is a masterclass in internal consistency. Outrageous as the happenings are, there's very little there that directly contradicts anything else in the text, and Smith also is very good at remembering the stupendous scales and distances in the real universe and what they mean for the plot. Mickey Mouse's writing committee could learn a lot from him. Most modern space opera writers would just throw their hands up and say "it's just fucking sci-fi, this doesn't matter!" But to Smith, it matters greatly. And because it matters to him, the reader also cares.
It's not a book I would, in all seriousness, call "good", but there's enough campy fun to make it worth, and like in classic Star Wars, the action never pauses so it's easy light reading.
I'm only half surprised to find out there's an anime based on it. (Loosely, from the looks of it) There were several points in the book I thought "this feels like some 70's anime".
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>>23990397
Probably that will happen in the Russian knockoff.
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>>23987872
Vorkosigan books for the first time. wonderful, lots of fun
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Richard Adams' review of The Silmarillion in 1977.
>O mighty Tolkien! Prince of fantasists! How shall we find words rightly to praise thy nobility of conception, faultless consistency of narrative, and superb fecundity of invention?

>When I was asked to review The Silmarillion, I thought, “Ah, barrel-scraping, no doubt.” . . . Usually these are dredged-up bits and pieces, well below the standard of the great work. The Silmarillion is not. It is, in my view, greater and more satisfying than both The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings.

>The form of The Silmarillion is not a romantic novel, like its forerunners, but a sort of Elvish Bible. The general “feel” most resembles that of the Old Testament. Dialogue and individual character have about the same degree of importance that they have in the Old Testament—that is to say, characters appear and vanish, subordinate to history and narrative flow as they are not in Lord of the Rings.

>The style is most like Malory, the greatest fantasist of all—a kind of simple, stately, half-archaic prose, eminently clear and readable. Like Malory too is the flow and the feeling that a huge plan is being worked out. . . . Some critics may feel this is eclectic. I can imagine no other style or treatment appropriate to such a theme.

>Many characters and places have two and sometimes even three names each. . . . Tolkien here is “doing his thing,” if you like it. Personally, I could unravel this stuff with delight all day and all night.
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>>23990725
Lensman transcends any pedestrian notion of good or bad quality, it's like asking if splitting the atom was good or bad, it set such a new paradigm and was essentially ground zero for space opera while also being a fucking berserk and relentless stream of consciousness of Doc Smith you come away from it with much the same experience as ascetic monks mediating for 40 days and nights with no food or water; like you caught a glimpse of something the human mind is not equipped to process, and glimpses of it reverberate down through time. To me Lensman deserves all the accolades as 'the father of science fiction' that Dune receives.
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How are indie books?
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>>23990725
>>23990851
Congrats on taking the time to write an original review to express yourself.
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>>23985710
I read this in 3rd grade. Its basically baby’s first fantasy. Pug is very much like Luke from starwars.
I have too much nostalgia to judge, LOVED these books as a kid. The video games were popular in the 90s, helped add to mystique.His later books vary wildly in quality. He eventually has no clue what to with his OP main character.
Stuff like Wheel of Time and Mormon Fantasy displaced Fiest now a days
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>>23988318
Sounds like you want Fafhrd and Grey Mouser
I'd also suggest Moorcocks Eternal Champion series, personally I'd suggest starting with The Knight of the Swords but Elric is much more popular.
Also check out The Broken Sword
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>>23990842
As a child I disliked the Silmarillion and was disappointed in it. The older I get the more I feel like the funny rabbit book guy here
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>>23990544
That's right, the manga is pretty popular. I don't know enough about orbital mechanics to worry about things like that.

>>23990575
Because it was a really fun thinking book. If man has only just reached the moon, how can there be a space man from 50,000 years ago on there? If you like solving problems then you'll like the book.
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>>23989964
Is it kino?
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>>23985236
what are the kino star wars EU/Legends books? don't care what the Mouse says about canon
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>>23991097
thats the most autistic sci fi book ive ever read, somehow even more than greg egan
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bondwine.com
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Ohne Tolkien, Keine Fantasy
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>>23989964
>Pastel City
>not shit tier
LOL
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Where are the stormlight leaks
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>>23990613
Gormenghast. But I have a feeling you've read that already. I haven't seen any other gothic books get recommended. That seems like thee one.

I want to copy you. So someone recommend me a book with these vibes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jztkifMBSc0
I just finished Chronicles of Amber.(The Corwin Cycle) And I liked it. It was very fantastical. But now I'm seeing something even more fantastical than that if possible. No upper limit on how flowery and abstract it can get.
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>>23989723
Fuck, I remember there was this 80's or 90's fantasy series about guy who got teleported into a fantasy world and from covers this guy was your typical fat neckbeard in red shirt, but I can't recall the series' name for shit.
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>>23989743
And since John Brownjohn died in 2020, chances are the next translation is still is still far away. I still find it sorta weird how little presence these books seem to have in English circles considering what a household name Moers is in Germany. The Little Asshole movies and comics don't have a dub either afaik.
I've considered making an unofficial translation of Ensel Und Krete myself since it's relatively short (compared to the other Moers books), fun and has some interesting background on Yarnspinners life and views, but it's still a daunting task for someone who's never done anything of the sort, especially since I wouldn't want to use machine translation.
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>>23991570
Breaking into a crowded market like books in English is difficult for anyone. There's probably dozens of Moers tier authors languishing in relative obscurity who would be overnight hits if they were publishing in Finnish, Polish or whatever
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Short story, may contain analorgieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=089e3ziWcx0
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>>23991721
>Finnish
There are Finnish hits? You mean the Moomins?
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Happy St. Catherine's day!
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>>23990284
>>23985334
the anarchist backstories were so good!
I especially liked the Gargoyle one.
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>>23987755
>writing insufferable fucking losers as protagonists we spend too much time with who only get a moderate amount of growth over a too-lengthy series considering
dbz nigger opinion
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>>23989723
lightbringer by brent weeks has a self-conscious fatass protagonist
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>>23992179
Was she really Severian's mother or is it Reddit headcanon?
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>>23992358
Reddit headcanon. She's just a chem like Jonas.
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One of my characters is a dark, moody, mysterious and depressed girl that wants to put her life in danger to punish herself, but she doesn't want to outright kill herself.

Think of Russian roulette. Except less risky and her death depends on an unpredictable external factor. And if she survives she won't become a vegetable.

Something like walking through a crime-ridden favela while nicely dressed. You don't know if someone will rob and kill you, it may happen, just like it may not.
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>>23984475
>the ultimate villains of a seminal science fiction epic are defeated by kicking them really, really hard
B R A V O H E R B E R T
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>>23992549
>ultimate villains are defeated by explosion
>ultimate villains have already lost
>ultimate villains blow themselves up
>ultimate villains die in a shootout
>ultimate villains die in their sleep
>ultimate villains give up and change their minds
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>>23992561
These could possible be considered equivalent if, for example, the hypothetical villains died in their sleep in sequence due to a secondary character going around deliberately strangling them one by one.
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>>23992568
No, no. The bad guy dies because the good guy kills him in his sleep.
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>>23985334
I liked the whole series because the protagonist is not retarded and makes sensible choices compared to other protagonists, also no dumb romance subplots. Audiobook was also good
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>>23989340
Terry Bisson
>Fire on the mountain
>an alternate history describing the world as it would have been had John Brown succeeded in his raid on Harper's Ferry and touched off a slave rebellion in 1859, as he intended
>Socialism wins out in the rump U.S., following a revolutionary outbreak in Chicago. Socialism works out as predicted by the German philosopher Karl Marx, bringing happiness and prosperity to all of humanity. (Marx himself is mentioned in the book as an enthusiastic supporter of the rebellious slaves, though he does not personally come to America to help them.)
>The book has two levels. The overt plot takes place in 1959, in a Utopian Socialist world far in advance of ours in all ways. To mark the centennial of Brown's raid, black astronauts lead a mission to land on Mars. However, the story of the protagonist, a young black woman grieving the death of her husband on an earlier Mars mission, is mainly the framework for excerpts from the vivid diaries of two people who lived through the stirring events of 1859 and its aftermath – her ancestor, who was then a young black slave, and a white Virginian doctor who sympathized with the rebellion. In this world, an alternate history book is published called John Brown's Body, which describes a world in which Brown failed and was executed, the slaves were emancipated by Lincoln rather than by themselves after a war between two white factions, and capitalism survived as a political and economic system. It is considered a dystopia, describing a horrible world in all ways inferior to the one which the people in the book know.
LOL boomers are so retarded
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I've been wondering. Is "The Flash of Two Worlds" the first story about characters traveling to an alternative universe? Moorcock wrote many of these only after 1961 when story was published.
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>>23992247
Pour one out for Volteeg.
Think of the inevitable "Carl" chapter.
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hyperion cantos is actually pretty incredible
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>>23992027
What I mean is it's much easier for a Moers calibre author to get noticed in the smaller market of Finnish readers versus the larger market of English readers. Non-English media trying to enter the English market face significantly more headwinds compared to their native market
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>>23992930
three hearts and three lions was published in 1953 (though i haven't read the original novella, only the novel, which coincidentally was also published in 1961)
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>>23993148
also if you're not a stickler about the "universe" framing and terminology obviously a lot of stuff qualifies
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>>23993148
But that was more of a magic world similar to Narnia. I was wondering specifically about works where people travel to "alternative version" of our universe. Like Star Trek's Mirror Universe, Sliders and such.
It would be unusual for a comic book to introduce a new sci-fi concept instead of taking inspiration from a previously published book.
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>>23993228
>But that was more of a magic world similar to Narnia.
sort of, but there's also explicit discussion of the physics behind it, and it's meant to parallel real history in certain ways. i guess it's not quite the alt-timeline kind of thing you're looking for.
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i can't bring myself to finish jonathan strange & mr norrell. i reall enjoyed the first part of the book but the middle third was just kinda okay.
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>>23993340
It's a magnificent book. Could have been 3x as long as far as I'm concerned.
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>>23987117
Welsh and it's a myth like so many claims about the man. He was proud of it even though he joked about it.
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any good sci-fi (either a standalone story or part of a series) about a single operative sneaking into dangerous places or otherwise being a one man army type deal like Kyle in Dark Forces?
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>>23987421
I enjoyed it, but The Dispossessed is by far her best work of science fiction.
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>>23990842
Definitely feel this. The Silmarillion is my favorite work by Tolkien. It reads like a book of myths and legends with themes/archetypes directly taken from real-world mythology (destiny/geas, doomed love, the fall of man). You can see that this is what Tolkien really wanted to write as a student of mythology and he was truly in his element. Also it isn't hard to read at all if you have any experience with higher level/older texts.
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Not exactly fiction, but a dece place to ask this without starting a new thread:
Any recommendations on a good overview/primer on all the little complications of orbital/extraterrestrial operations? Would like to understand a lot of the scientific fundamentals considered in science-fiction (even if many stories fudge or eschew some realities.)
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>>23993805
Why not ask /sci/?
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>>23993805
you could try "The Case for Mars" by Robert Zubrin, a lot of it is about the journey to Mars rather than the colony itself. one thing that stuck with me is that he pooh-poohs the Aldrin Cycler concept by talking about the amount of algae that was found clogging up Mir space station.
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>>23993805
this is /sffg/ and scifi is about fucking cars (ballard) and time travelling to the past to fuck your mom (heinlein) it's not about science
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>>23993868
I checked that board out once and it turfed with so many obnoxious retards complaining about jews (so like most boards on this site these days) that I never went back. Checked it just now with a quick search that pulled-up a stupid-questions thread that might do the trick, but otherwise I legitimately feel like that place is likely less intelligent than /lit/ (which is saying something.)

>>23993897
Thank you for the suggestion, I will look into this.

>>23993906
Just because you only read Fantasy, doesn't mean hard Sci-Fi doesn't exist.
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>wrote a 600 page book just to say that incest is based, actually
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>>23993805
Project Rho / Atomic Rockets is the go-to as a starting point for your research to any science fiction related topics:
https://projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/

Read picrelated if you want to go deeper into orbital mechanics and all the math involved.

As well as the other books on Atomic Rockets non-fiction suggested reading list: https://projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/reading.php
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>>23990851
Calling Dune the father of science fiction would be ridiculous - science fiction in the modern sense we understand it had literally existed for a century before Dune. Who said that?
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>>23988365
not trolling, but i admit my ignorance as to what fantasy books, if any, were published after 2021.

i ask this because i watched a video on youtube about the state of the fantasy publishing world and it is, according to the author of said video, dire and tainted by left-wing politics: he basically said that the best fantasy book imaginable won't be published ny any mainstream publishers if the author does not include gays, non-whites and does not award the role of the protagonist to a female character.
he further fortified this view by speculating that brandon sanderson is about to ditch mainstream publishers because of this imposition.

but i am not here to chat about politics. i just want some good fantasy recommendations. i don't mind female characters, but about good plots and coherent characters.
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>>23994350
dune the father of sci-fi? preposterous!
balderdash of the most baseless sort, i say!
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>>23993594
I'm planning to read that too at some point. A Fisherman of the Inland Sea too.
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>>23994652
Publishers are the same as ever. Money is what matters most. Content is less important. Popular self-published books are picked up by traditional publishers if they sell well enough and the author allows it. Sanderson isn't going anywhere. While he does have his own publishing company, definitely the largest of SFF authors, and possibly of authors in general, there's no advantage for him to only do that.

Here are some fantasy books I enjoyed, which doesn't mean you would, published in 2022 and afterwards. If you want more details let me know.

Councilor (The Grand Illusion #2)
Age of Ash (Kithamar #1)
The Justice of Kings (Empire of the Wolf, #1)
Speaking Bones (The Dandelion Dynasty, #4)
Priest of Crowns (War for the Rose Throne, #4)
Tress of the Emerald Sea
The Tyranny of Faith (Empire of the Wolf, #2)
A Portrait in Shadow
The Will of the Many (Hierarchy, #1)
Blade of Dream (Kithamar, #2)
A Harvest of Ash and Blood (Ashes of Eormun Book 1)
Contrarian (The Grand Illusion #3)
The Great Change
The Sunlit Man
The Tainted Cup (Shadow of the Leviathan, #1)
The Trials of Empire (Empire of the Wolf, #3)
The Orphan and the Queen (Ashes of Eormun, #2)
The Breath That Breaks the Stone (Ashes of Eormun, #3

There are quite a few others that I enjoyed to a lesser degree.
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>>23994709
thank you very, very much, bro. i'm genuinely thankful for your suggestions and will definitely buy at least 3.
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>>23985280
Is it out yet?
I need to pick it up
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>>23994709
>The Will of the Many (Hierarchy, #1)
Isn't this some teenagers-go-to-magic-academy slop?
>The Great Change
Author?
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>>23994748
Yes. Everyone's reading it.
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>>23994753
>premiers 29.11.2024
I don't think that's true.
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>>23994755
>he isn't reading the ARC copy
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>>23985280
>just finished crossroads of twilight
>now it's crossroads of ravens
no no no not again please
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>>23994752
Joe Abercrombie
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>>23994765
nta, but I gave up reading ARC copies because I eventually didn't find it to worthwhile.
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>>23994752
Considering he (Yev?) thought Tress, of all fucking books, warranted mention, the majority of his other recommendations will undoubtedly be YA nonsense that a teenager would be enthralled by.
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>>23994811
One drop rule
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>>23994811
What's wrong with it?
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>>23994752
"Will of the Many" is indeed the sloppiest slop that ever slopped. embarrassing and derivative garbage.
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>>23994952
Are you the anon who wrote many full posts in this thread arguing about why it is?
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>>23993805
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>>23994324
I think it'd be neat to write some sci-fi in the future. This isn't exactly what I'm looking for right now but I'm sure it could be interesting or handy in the future, thank you.

Update on visiting /sci/: holy shit there are a lot of retards shitting-up that board. Anyway I'll post in that thread I mentioned to see what other recommendations I might get.
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>>23994765
Is there a good source for ARC leaks? Really want to get my hands on a copy of The Devils
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>>23995340
Good luck for getting one of a TOR book. They're notoriously stingy about who they send them to. Those who get them wouldn't want to risk it.

> To receive a Tor Publishing Group e-galley, you must have a way of distributing your review. —Requesters should have an above average means of spreading the word about books. —Blog/website content must be relevant to book requested. —We are only able to share a limited amount of galleys. Provide your e-mail address and the following information: If you are a reviewer/blogger: —A direct link to your book review blog, with evidence of timely reviews and recent activity. —Include any relevant social media links such as Twitter, Facebook or Instagram. If you are a librarian or educator: —Include the name and address of the library/school where you work. If you are a bookseller: —Include the name and address of the bookstore where you work. If you are a media professional: —Include the name and address of the company where you work. If you are a freelance reviewer for publications: —Include the name of the media outlets you write for. If your request is approved: —Please feel free to publish your review as soon as you’ve finished reading on your favorite retail outlet. Please post a link to your review to your NetGalley profile so we may see your response to our book.
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>>23994922
Formulaic "borderline personality disorder main female character does impossible things" Sanderson novel.
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>>23985051
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Do you know any fantasy books with the feeling like "you are sitting in a castle (a tavern or any other place) and there is something unknown outside"? Maybe like "The Tartar Steppe". As I remember, GRRM has this trope in "A Dance with Dragons" in those chapters in Winterfell with Ramsay Bolton and Mance's wives.
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>>23995645
I've just been watching it; the TV show From has a few episodes like that.
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>>23995645
Also, The Terror. I only watched the TV show, but I imagine the book has that as well.
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>>23995653
>>23995654
I have watched the show and read Terror. Yeah, Terror had this feeling while the crew was on the ships. I also remember this feeling in the first/second Gothic games, in the Old Camp.
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>>23995445
That’s what I figured, but it was worth a shot.
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>>23995520
Is the most important word "female" in that statement?
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What good pseudo-Western-European-medieval fantasy do you know besides ASOIAF (and maybe The Witcher, although it is more high-fantasyish)? Like feudalism, knights, lords and castles, small cities and villages, agriculture, etc.
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Does anyone else like fantasy stories without magic or mythical creatures?
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>>23995728
For example? I like down-to-earth fantasy like GRRM, but still there are magic and creatures.
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>>23995726
The Chalion series.
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>>23995768
Bujold?
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>>23984872
Is that the Ranking of Kings artist?
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>>23995726
My favorites are more standalone literary works. Namely, The Deep by John Crowley and Pavane by Keith Roberts. But I doubt these are what you are looking for.
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Why didnt one of the Consult just go into the carapace themself?
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>>23995696
Sanderson's main female protagonists are commonly the same.
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I'm writing a Tolkienesque cyberpunk zombie apocalypse novel.
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>>23995975
not enough subgenres
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For the first time after reading several lengthy cultivation webnovels, this entire starting arc of I Shall Seal the Heavens book 6, where Meng Hao runs into Patriarch Reliance again, has had me laughing so much.
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>>23996011
>post this
>Quick, give me your spirit stones and the Patriarch will repay you tenfold! Do you think he cares about some trifling Spirit Stones?
>ol turtle gets madder and madder
o lawd it doesn't stop
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>>23996011
>I Shall Seal the Heavens
is a chink take on The Consult?
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>>23995616
>Lmao bugmen
>This type of slop teir monologging is why I can never into wuxian/xianxia
>'looks at Lord of The Mysteries with further disdain'
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>>23994791
>novella
gay
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>>23994794
Why?
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>>23995445
TOR ARCs are difficult, not impossible, to get. However, most of their stuff is shit and, in most cases, not worth the effort. The good stuff comes from smaller (or more desperate) publishers.
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>>23995340
>Is there a good source for ARC leaks?
It's mostly about who you know and if you're in the right Discord server.
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>>23996128
Too many were terribly formatted, perhaps to make them less likely to be shared. After comparing the to retail copy I didn't like how there often a lot of minor changes. Nothing that really mattered, but it bothered me. I'm not going to buy them anyway, so getting them for free mattered less. I have plenty to read, so getting more early didn't matter. I didn't like feeling the obligation that I'd need to write about every book. Most importantly I didn't like how it influenced what I wrote even when at the time I did preferred to think it didn't in any way. So, really nothing that would matter all that much to most. Every book I asked for I received, except for TOR.
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>>23996138
On average, how far did you receive the ARCs ahead of the scheduled publishing date?
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>>23996141
The books often go up on Netgalley well in advance of publication. Usually many months. I'm sure there's a lot on there right now that don't release well into next year. I think the earliest one I got was 6-8 months before it was published. The annoying thing is that it's often requested that nothing be made public about it until about 2 weeks before release to maximize marketing for it. Many seem to ignore that though. So, I voluntarily held back a lot and had to keep track of that.
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>>23996141
Here's the SFF category. Looks like the current latest date one is August 19th.
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>>23996138
In my experience they often don't have any of the material that would come before or after the text. Whether that's maps, glossary, dramatis personae, acknowledgements, and other background info. A few times they don't even have a cover yet.
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>>23996155
"Black Brane" is the only book that doesn't look pozzed.
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>>23996173
Cisco is considered a good literary weird fiction writer.
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>>23985406
The Witcher was leftist from the very start. Geralt is a fedora tipping, pro abortion redditor who loves to moralize despite claiming neutrality and enjoys getting pegged by his gf on a daily basis.
Funny how rightoids claimed the series as a pinnacle of traditional Polish culture.
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Any sff recs with the MC finding that some myth/legend turns out to be true?
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>>23996208
Rightoids think the Polish have a culture?
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>>23995975
>not Lovecraftian Tolkienesque cyberpunk zombie apocalypse
Will not read.
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Just finished Celephais and it convinced me that Lovecraft was a Sensitive Young Man™
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>>23996283
What does that mean?
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>>23990639
I read The Dwarves as a teen and quite liked the series, although the 4th book is kinda weird.
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>>23995445
>above average means of spreading the word about books? Yeah I spread my words to this site where 4 million unique visitor comes to this site every single day
>evidence of timely reviews and recent activity? *pull up greenies screencap with lots of (You)*
>my book review blog? Go to 4chan.org/lit/sffg
>social media links? No I dont have social media
>company where I work? Its called Home, position: basement sofa occupier and regional manager
>oh its accepted? Cool. What is that? You want to sent me some arc as well, orbit? Just go ahead then
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>>23996175
He's the only man in that list of trannies and femoids.
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kind of incredible that they banished romantasy to its own category and yet the goodreads readers' choice awards for fantasy are still utter dogshit

except jay kristoff, he's OK I guess
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I like my MCs wearing an eyepatch
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>>23996979
Why would you want your taste to be the same as the mainstream?
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>>23996979
>goodreads readers' choice
I can only imagine 90% of that site are women and fags.
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>>23997252
So what? Good writing is good writing. We're all hunan. I'm not gonna judge a book if I haven't read it myself, personally.
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Good lesser-known post-apocalyptic fiction?
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>>23997339
woman and fags can not write good. We need to judge books more by their cover
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Good paper on the SF Tolkien liked
https://scholar.valpo.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1387&context=journaloftolkienresearch
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>>23997341
The Jerusalem Man trilogy
Tight Little Stitches in a dead man's back
Engine Summer
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>>23997347
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I humbly request a recommendation of urban fantasy from a male POV with slow burn romance.
Please, I've looked everywhere but I've found nothing that fits my criteria.
It has to exist, I refuse to believe that only women are into slow burn romance, I refuse. I am sick and tired of instant love on first sight.
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>>23997838
when you want something that bad you might as well be the one to write it
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>>23997838
You ever think you might be a woman trapped in a man's body? I suggest taking hormone blockers and getting government assisted surgery (thanks to my tax dollars that I love to give to you and Israel!) asap
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>>23997860
Trump won.
Seethe.



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