Lewis and Huxley both died on the same day, 11/22/63. Which was of course the same day as the JFK king-killing ritual.

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>>24076515
I think both Huxley and Orwell wrote cautionary tales about what the progressive experiments of the 20th century could lead into while still internally supporting some undefined project for a Beautiful Progressive Society Of Tomorrow, while Lewis correctly called that the whole thing was doomed from the start. That said, That Hideous Strength is pretty much Lewis smashing a bunch of toys against each other. He throws all his favorite shit into that book and it's a mess. Has all the good folks at N.I.C.E. be absolutely fucked by Merlin, there's even some latin in there I think. Fun book though and that dialogue about morally neutral actions becoming less of a possibility as time goes on was quite clever

>>24076918
Where on earth did you find this meme? Thank you so much for posting it. I can't find hardly anyone who's read the space trilogy on these boards unfortunately.

Anyways, I always felt like Huxley got off to the dystopian lit that he wrote. It's too much "this is inevitable, you can never escape", if it doesn't provide hope for an escape than it tacitly supports it.

>>24077007
>Where on earth did you find this meme?
Someone I know IRL had been reading the Space Trilogy so I went ahead and made this meme just to amuse them. I wish I hadn't been the one to make it though, cause that would imply at least one extra person caring about that trilogy.
>I can't find hardly anyone who's read the space trilogy on these boards unfortunately.
Hear, hear. It's odd to me because Lewis is known by everyone and he didn't write that much fiction apart from Narnia and this trilogy. So you would assume everyone would be familiar with it, at least here. But that's not really the case for some reason. Once I made a thread asking if anyone else found a similarity between Weston and William Blake and I think one guy replied "yeah kinda". Might also have to do with the fact this board doesn't seem to really enjoy reading and discussing books or thinkers outside of a few /lit/core books and a few polemic authors (old Nietzsche comes to mind). Or maybe the few people who care about that space trilogy visit the board rarely. I know I do.
>if it doesn't provide hope for an escape than it tacitly supports it.
I don't know if that's the case, but looking back on the book, it is somewhat strange that Huxley had the poor savage kill himself in the end, even though said savage spent his formative years reading the Bible and the complete works of Shakespeare. Just because he what, took some addy and partook in a drug-fueled orgy? Am I misremembering it? The author then went on to write a second book in which he goes over every little nook and cranny of the first, comparing his narration to the state of the art in propaganda/biology/brainwashing technology at the time, and just then just jerks himself off for a few pages going "See I was right guys... I told you guys". He sports this tone of "I lament to inform you gentlemen that we are ruined", but I don't think he lamented it that much. He's enamored with his own ability to predict disaster and he betrays it in these pages. Even then it's kind of funny because most of what he describes kind of went nowhere and is so very different from what the CIA guys started doing with LSD and pentothal when they got into that whole brainwashing deal.

>>24077128
What I remember, is that Huxley was involved with the types of people who would've been planning the IRL implementation of this "brave new world" scenario, and many of his ideas were taken from here. Also some other things that Huxley said about human nature were very sus. They were written like they could've been written from the perspective of the societal planners in his novel, in how cynical/dehumanizing they were.

I'm not very familiar with the differences between CIA lsd/pentothal mind control and Huxley's method?

In general, when someone constructs this doom and gloom nightmare scenario for humanity and gives no hope for escape, I think that person is either misguided or that they have ill intentions and are trying to deceive/demoralize people. Huxley's BNW seems very anti-human imo.

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Lewis' friend Tolkien was also familiar with the sort of stuff Huxley and Orwell were getting into, the stuff they were in on. For Tolkien they became the inspiration for Saruman.

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>>24077187
bump for mirth

>>24076918
>while Lewis correctly called that the whole thing was doomed from the start
Where?

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>>24077378
You'll have to read both The Abolition of Man and That Hideous Strength. There's no way around it, because there's only so much energy and time that can be spent on a 4chan effortpost. We are also working with limited space. Even then, let's try to make do.
The Abolition of Man lays down some ideas Lewis had regarding traditional/objective morality (which to him, are indistinguishable), the possibility of inventing a new system of values and inculcating it in newer generations through education or other refined techniques. We should agree at this point that all attempts at building a Progressive Society for the Future™ must be based on some ideology, which will have its own implied system of values. If you do not agree with me or Lewis on this, I will not try to convince you. I will assume it is the case that we both agree and move on. Lewis is quite skeptical of any attempts to derive a new form of morality. He calls traditional morality "Tao", likely in an effort to be as universal as possible, and asserts that any new morality is just an isolated subset of Tao and therefore incomplete. Quote from the first book:
>"The rebellion of new ideologies against the Tao is a rebellion of the branches against the tree: if the rebels could succeed they would find that they had destroyed themselves. The human mind has no more power of inventing a new value than of imagining a new primary colour, or, indeed, of creating a new sun and a new sky for it to move in."
This is likely an idea he adapted from Chesterton. Quote from "Orthodoxy":
>"The modern world is not evil; in some ways the modern world is far too good. It is full of wild and wasted virtues. When a religious scheme is shattered (as Christianity was shattered at the Reformation), it is not merely the vices that are let loose. The vices are, indeed, let loose, and they wander and do damage. But the virtues are let loose also; and the virtues wander more wildly, and the virtues do more terrible damage. The modern world is full of the old Christian virtues gone mad. The virtues have gone mad because they have been isolated from each other and are wandering alone. Thus some scientists care for truth; and their truth is pitiless. Thus some humanitarians only care for pity; and their pity (I am sorry to say) is often untruthful."
Lewis dedicates sections of the book to The Innovator, an hypothetical character on a quest to invent a new system of morality, and The Conditioner, a man born in the first generation to attain complete control over the following, whether through education of refined scientific techniques. He notes that, because any attempt of stepping out of the Tao to invent a new system of morality is reduced to an arbitrary selection of elements, all systems of morality The Conditioner could try to inculcate in the following generations could only be derived from his own preferences, and therefore, from his own emotions. Again, read the two books, they rule.

>>24077614
Also noteworthy: in the Space Trilogy, the Innovator and Conditioner are embodied by Professor Frost, which derides other forms of morality (Tao included) as being sentimental. In his own search for an actual objective morality, he ends up as worshipper of Satan

>>24077181
I did not know that. That's awful.
>In general, when someone constructs this doom and gloom nightmare scenario for humanity and gives no hope for escape, I think that person is either misguided or that they have ill intentions and are trying to deceive/demoralize people. Huxley's BNW seems very anti-human imo.
Oh yeah I can kinda get where you're coming from now. I don't know to what extent Huxley was denouncing the people he was involved with or actually attempting demoralization when he wrote that book, but the demoralization aspect is certainly there.
>I'm not very familiar with the differences between CIA lsd/pentothal mind control and Huxley's method?
To keep it short, Huxley had his brainwashing be centered around streaming .mp3 files while you sleep, which iirc is somewhat discredited now, while the CIA guys go the usual hypnosis route and just pump you full of drugs if you give them too much work. I haven't read Gravity's Rainbow yet because quite frankly I don't have enough of grasp on english as I wish I had, certainly not enough to read that book, but I think Pynchon deals with that Mk Ultra shit at some point.

tf is a screwtape tho

>>24077614
>>24077622
This is just gobbledygook that doesn't answer anything. Condense it into a single sentence.

>>24077277
all of these are good books

>>24078082
nta but it's not gobbledygook, zoomer

>>24078183
Condense it into a single sentence.

>>24076515
Based knower. There's not a week that goes by where I don't think about this quote from Abolition of Man.
>We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.

>>24078185
Either take the 90 seconds to read a couple paragraphs or fuck off.

>>24078082
Shut the fuck up, you begging peasant.

>>24076515
Eugenics never went away, but it can't be done in a Nazi way anymore. If you make eugenics look good, people find it more acceptable. A lot of progressives today are very pro eugenics, they just don't realize it. Progressivism has a smiley face, so it looks good. You can see how people nowadays will rant about Nazis, not realizing they think the same way.

The only people they feel comfortable openly displaying it towards is White people. White people who don't live in the city and are uneducated are subhuman. There's no hope for them and they need to fuck off forever. This is the complete opposite reaction they have when encountering poor uneducated non Whites. They don't actually feel that way. Progressivism has turned into the church. If you go to church you're a good person. If you support progressives, you're a good person.

Many of them are misguided, like the Trump supporters they hate, but some of them are just angry vindictive assholes. Any socially acceptable outlet for anger is their go to, which is why they openly despise poor uneducated White people. They will pretend to care about poor uneducated non Whites, but they don't actually. They want anyone they view as inferior or a lost cause to be gone.

The worst thing about progressivism is the dishonesty. They're the nice guys of politics. If a guy is yelling racial slurs, then everyone knows where he stands. The progressive creep hides in plain sight. They greet you with a smile, but stab you in the back.

Examine progressive spaces. They only direct their anger at approved targets. Very hateful and vengeful. Moral superiority complex. Very obsessed with image. Very egotistical. Very obsessed with cities, atheist, accepting of everything but with extreme inconsistencies, loathes people, but loves cities and places with tons of people, looks down on everyone else, elitist, gatekeeping. If you aren't in their group they view you as less than. Hubris.

These are the type of people who are convinced they're better than everyone else. You can see how this can lead to death. Death tolls that dwarf the regimes they never shut up about. Progressivism is a creepy ideology. It sounds good.

>>24078185
>You are retarded
There. Nta, he seems cool but it irritates me to see retards like you.

>>24077614
Did you understand what exactly happened in Perelandra? I felt like I lost the plot towards the end.

Also as much as I like both books I got extremely bored at times when they describe Ransom just walking around through the alien environment. I still feel there is a lot of wisdom in them, it's just a bit dated writing style at times.

>>24078082
This is the dedicated book board of this hell site. Weren't you supposed to enjoy reading? I don't think what you're asking for is possible and I don't feel like trying. If you don't care much for my posts, you can just google for a pdf of the two or three books I mentioned/quoted and go from there. Alternatively, if you really dislike reading, you can ask chat gpt to condense all the books into a single sentence. Ask the robot to go easy on the commas of course.
>>24079014
From memory and possibly subject to imprecision: Maleldil makes it clear to Ransom that he could just beat the shit out of the devil in a quite clever section that I recommend you read again. Ransom accepts the ordeal and, eventually, the devil gives up on a direct confrontation and runs. Ransom then chases him over earth and eventually sea while the two ride strange Perelandrian fishes. At some point, Weston appears to come back to his senses and begins a seemingly amicable dialogue with Ransom, explaining to him latest theory, dealing with life and what comes after. It is implied that, during the time Weston was possessed, his subjective experience was akin to being in hell. Realizing that both of them would soon crash and drown, Weston tries to embrace Ransom, maybe to stay afloat, and they both sink. The dialogue in this section is also worth revisiting. It is not made clear whether Weston really came back one last time or if the devil tried ye another trick on Ransom; it is also not made clear whether Weston's attempt to grab onto Ransom was due to panic, cowardice, malice or demonic possession. Ransom then finds himself in a pitch black cave and finds a way out of it deep into the volcanic portions of a mountain, where he has one last stand against the possessed Weston, killing him and throwing his body into the lava. He eventually finds a way out of the cave system and realizes he had been climbeing the mountain from inside. Now outside, he is greeted by the King and the Queen, and also by Mars and Venus. He then partakes in their coronation ceremony and also in a Great Dance, both lasting together maybe a whole year. This last section is easier to grasp if you read Lewis' "The Discarded Image". I do not recall if or how he develops the concept of that Great Dance in other works.

>>24079181
I thought the part where he tells Ransom to just go ahead and beat the shit out of the devil was hillarious lol. Sure I'll reread it again.

Also the part leading up to that, the way the devil was trying to convince the lady to sin was interesting to me. Especially the part about trying to make her feel like she was part of some sort of drama. I think there's probably a lot to learn from that section with analysis.

I suppose I got most of it, up until the end when the lady and the king are given domain over the planet at which point I stopped understanding what was going on and can't remember much of.

I do feel like I probably missed a lot of the meaning in it. I heard it makes a lot more sense if you are familiar with genesis.

>>24077640
A mischievous little devil

>>24078185
(You) === faggot

>>24077640
a based and redpilled demon bro

>>24076534
> king-killing ritual
what does that mean anon? are the three deaths related?

Newfag here. Are the narnia books good for a newfag?

>>24081574
Idk if they're related, but when he says "king killing ritual" I believe he's only referring to the death of Kennedy even if he's implying they're all related.

>>24081705
yes, you should read them

but the space trilogy is based and you should also read it

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>>24081705
Narnia rules but keep in mind you probably won't get the right mileage off it since you're old and jaded now and the books are pretty much "Christianity for kids". Nevertheless the books are quite endearing and clever at times (see pic related). Anyhoo if you have to choose a single fiction work by the man go for Perelandra
>>24079275
>Especially the part about trying to make her feel like she was part of some sort of drama
Absolutely. I think we can justify anything to ourselves so long as we can come up with enough of an interesting story for it. The complexity of the temptation described also made me wonder how much Adam and Eve had to endure. I always assumed the fall of men happened in a flash and that the couple was kind of retarded (oh the hubris of thinking we'd do any better) but those sections in the book made me rethink that.
>I suppose I got most of it, up until the end when the lady and the king are given domain over the planet at which point I stopped understanding what was going on and can't remember much of.
I don't think we're supposed to get everything. Lewis has a short essay called "Transposition" which deals with the weakness of language to map all the heavenly stuff to our known words. I'd wager Lewis was aware of that when he wrote that portion and chose to work on leaving an impression on the readers rather than making us "get" what the Great Dance was like. Maybe it was supposed to be eldritch but somehow positively so. Lovecraft flipped on his head

>>24078206
This hit me real hard fr fr
t. Zoomer

I found the Ayn Rand commentary on Abolition of Man by mistake, and it's hillarious. It's what you'd expect an old kike bat to say about CS Lewis. Most of it is just her screaming at him.

Okay, this is an interesting period of time I feel like I should know more about. I guess it can be called the split between the traditional and progressive. I want to build a reading list for it. Give me your thoughts/advice
>George Orwell
I read Animal Farm a while ago, but I could reread it. Never finished 1984 even after multiple attempts. I will give it another go.
>Aldous Huxley
Brave New World. Anything else from him?
>CS Lewis
I have never read anything wrote by him. I guess Narnia, Space Trilogy, Abolition of Man, That Hideous Strength, Mere Christianity
>Tolkien
I havent read Tolkien is such a long time. I might enjoy rereading The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings
>GK Chesterton
I read some of his Father Brown stories but nothing else. I guess I will Orthodoxy, because it is mention in this thread. Anything else by him?
>Pynchon
Havent read anything by him. Gravity's Rainbow?

So that is what I am taking away from this thread. Any other books/authors you would recommend? Thoughts?

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>>24084002
>The complexity of the temptation described also made me wonder how much Adam and Eve had to endure. I always assumed the fall of men happened in a flash and that the couple was kind of retarded (oh the hubris of thinking we'd do any better) but those sections in the book made me rethink that.
Silouan the Athonite's poem Adam's Lament is quite poignant. The only thing worse than being cast out of Paradise is knowing God's love and throwing it away.
>https://www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2013/03/st-silouan-athonite-adams-lament.html?m=1

>>24084072
I wish there were more space trilogy memes

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>>24084636
I found this one.

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Supposedly there's a book about Huxley and what he was getting up to at Oxford, and Lewis reacting to it. How he and the other intellectuals at Oxford were cooking up the modern world, the world as we know it, way back in the 1930s and the 1940s, and Lewis was horrified by it, and so was Tolkien.

Does anybody know the book I'm talking about? I think it was called "Inventing the Future" or something similar to that.

>>24084652
thanks anon

>>24084661
I haven't heard of that one, but chatgpt gave me this when I asked
>"Inventing the Future: The Losers of the Oxford Mind" by Mark A. Noll. This book delves into the intellectual climate at Oxford in the 1930s and 1940s, particularly focusing on figures like Aldous Huxley, C.S. Lewis, and J.R.R. Tolkien.

>>24084636
posting from my phone rn but i think i have one downloaded. will look for it later when i have the time

>>24084661
>>24084670
nvm I think this was just an AI hallucination sorry lol

>>24084941
L O L

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>>24084652
>>24084636
dunno who made this one

>>24084965
basado

>>24084002
Charles Williams and maybe Lord Dunsany. George MacDonald is late 19th century but he was huge influence on Lewis, Tolkien, etc.

>>24084965
that cover is kino

>Deeper Heaven: A Reader's Guide to C. S. Lewis's Ransom Trilogy: By Christiana Hale
Any thoughts on this book? I'm not a big fan of the tone the author has but is the information good?

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>>24083510

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>>24086570
These are excellent, thank you anon.

>>24084652
>>24086562
>>24086570
I've never actually read the books after Out of the Silent Planet but you've convinced me

>>24086815
You should. Idk about you, but I find the books to be incredibly boring at points. Maybe they were less boring when they were written, I find the alien landscape decsriptions in particular really a slog. But there is so much interesting stuff included in there and it has really great moments I recommend reading,

>>24076515
you can't choose who the muse will use
https://odysee.com/@Realfake_Newsource:9/RFNS-1.21-001-010:7

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>>24077614
the funny thing is that you described like 10% of the book. Its such a dense and meaningful read that you could take any 10% of it and if you understood it then its a worthwhile read.
>the meta irony of only reading 10% of a complete thesis when your whole point was about fragmenting the original
Language is an amazing example of the ills of subjectivity. As a result of people using the word literally for the purposes of emphasis rather than using it for its literal meaning, literally can mean "in a non literal sense". By taking only whats ascribed to it rather than its objective meaning, its become meaningless. I believe he used the example of a waterfall being pretty. The green book instructs that the waterfall is infact not pretty and the feeling it evokes in you is being projected onto the waterfall. The waterfall itself is not inherently pretty, you just feel that it is after observing it. lewis's argument would be that the waterfall is in fact pretty by its own nature and that if he hadnt witnessed it, it would still be pretty. In other words a tree still falls in a forest even if i dont observe it. besides the tendency of subjectivity to remove the innate characteristics of things (like how literally doesnt even have a meaning anymore), subjectivity also leads to relativism. If every quality is indeed projected and theres nothing innate for your senses to reflect, then all judgements are pointless. Is genocide bad? this would be ascribing objectivity to genocide, but if its subjective then it would just be an opinion that genocide is a bad thing rather than a quality of genocide. You may try to convince me that it in fact is, but if i have not projected that same feeling, and its subject to me observing and projecting, then genocide is however i feel about it at the moment similar to the definition of literally.
The inability to respond rightly to objective qualities is being sapped from the children who are taught subjectivity by the green book. the idea that their feelings dont reflect upon reality stunts their moral reasoning and intuition. This lack of chest (cant get into plato rn) is what lewis describes as the abolition of man.
>didnt even get to talk about the nature analogy
such a dense book.

>>24078185
>>24078082
(you) are the result of the abolition of man and i mean that in the most sympathetic way possible. theres your sentence

>>24088479
And that means what exactly?

>>24088484
lmao look at him go

Is Ransom mentioned at all in the third space trilogy book, are any of the characters from 1 and 2 mentioned at all?

>>24089456
Yes, he just doesn't appear until a few chapters in.

>>24088484
>describe it in one sentence
>umm can you elaborate???
You are just like my ex

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>read it because of the meme
>it’s actually good
Man C.S. Lewis has such a good understanding of human nature. He did such a great job of explaining the inner-workings of Mr. Studdock being worried, then elation at being accepted into the inner circle of NICE, only to have them turn on him.
>op eds getting pumped out for both sides to control the discourse
>”intellectuals” are the easiest to fool
>Rails against Jane for not submitting to husband
>BDSM German gestapo woman
>Fairies are feminine almost to the point of imbecility. Small and slight, fluffy and full of giggles.
>Merlin represents how the old paganism can be integrated, redeemed by Christ
>Planetary Archons
>Cosmic Christ figure
What an absolute banger of a book. One of the best I read last year!

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>>24088479
>>24079275
> Especially the part about trying to make her feel like she was part of some sort of drama
This reminds me quite a bit of the train scene in the beginning of Anna Karenina, where she's reading the novel and imagines herself as the heroine. The distastrous plot of the rest of the story unfolds from there, but in both cases (Perelandra and Anna K.) the authors use the medieval Thomistic theory of action and sin - All actions begin in the imagination

I love the ending part of Perelandra, when Ransom is speaking with the queen, and there's a description wherein Lewis talks about Ransom as yearning to meet his planetary mother (by which I think he was referring to Eve). I like to imagine Tolkien telling Lewis in the pub how close he is to Catholicism, as for Catholics, Mary is like this mythical mother to whom we have recourse

That Hideous Strength is one of my favorite novels, right after Chesterton. I just love the schizo Arthurian mythology come to life and the N.I.C.E "pulling down high heaven on their heads"
see "Rorate Coeli" from Isaiah 45:8
https://youtu.be/-EjHCYLukRY

>>24084002
Chesterton is my favorite author of all time. I highly recommend his Ballad of the White Horse, Manalive, and the Ball and the Cross.
Man Who Was Thursday and Return of Don Quixote are also fantastic, but Chesterton is one of those authors where he just resonates with some people, while for others he falls kind of flat. I like him because to me his ideas and his enthusiasm are very real, whereas for many people, they take him as being satirical. I disagree, but there is definitely a spirit in which you have to read his novels that comes naturally to me, because it is the spirit to which I approach life in general
Chesterton takes his joking very seriously. It's like Gnosticism, except the hidden Truth of reality is hid not in the sinister way of conspiracy, but in the same way that the punchline of a joke is hidden

>>24089819
https://www.lewissociety.org/innerring/

Great essay from Lewis on "The Inner Ring" Clear references to this idea with Mark Studdock

>>24089883
I tried reading The Man Who Was Thursday and I just didn't get it even though I like Chesterton in general, and distributism, and Christianity. What else should I try?

>>24090006
If you like distributism, I recommend Return of Don Quixote. Hilaire Belloc's Servile State is also good for a historical perspective of distributism. Man Who Was Thursday took me a couple read-through's to get, but I love it now.
Ball and the Cross is phenomenal, my first Chesterton novel - the premise is that a Scottish Catholic and London atheist get into a duel over the honor of the Virgin Mary, and they get chased by the police trying to stop people from fighting for the sake of religion - the conversations that Chesterton writes are really great and do honor to both sides for their dogmatism, although at the time of writing, Chesterton had already become Christian.
Manalive is a good book for if you ever have the unhappy malady of falling out of love with life
And Ballad of the White Horse is an epic poem with a lot of stanzas worth committing to memory

Discord thread

>>24090062
what do you mean?

>>24084002
I really liked The Man Who Was Thursday by Chesterton

>>24077181
Did you read his final book? The Island

>>24091659
I haven't read it yet no

>>24091659
no I haven't, why do you mention it?

>>24084002
You can also add The Screwtape Letters and Till We Have Faces by C.S. Lewis.

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>>24077007
I've read Out of the Silent Planet and own the last one but I can't find Perelandia at any book stores, especially after the best one for sci-fi/fantasy closed down. Are there more otter people in the sequels?

>>24092761
You can buy the entire trilogy together for 22$ on Amazon if you're not opposed. There aren't anymore otter people :( Well, I haven't read the last book yet so I don't know for sure. Weston comes back though

>>24092828
I'm not sure which youtube video you are referring to, but you should read the books too!

>>24092835
if you're going to quote your favorite comedian/surrogate dad basically word for word the least you could do is cite him

>>24092842
Surrogate dad ... are you talking about Jordan Peterson? The sentiment in OP post isn't exactly exclusive to one person, and the books themselves are much older than YouTube. I'm not sure why it'd be less worth discussing because it's an interesting topic even if the books are old.

>>24076534
Kennedy
King
Kennedy

KKK

We’ve been living in a global CIA mind control state since the 60s

>>24092982
The CIA developed the ability to control minds at close range in the early 60s using rapid subliminal messaging via radio wave transmission. From that moment they controlled the US government. It took them a further 30 years to gain control of Russia and China. All world politics today is fake, all of the key decisions are made by a few hundred intelligence officials with access to the mind control technology. The Harry Potter series was written by the CIA to portray this secret world order and its relationship to the public world order.

CIA means “Control in America”

>>24093003
The real reason the West’s actions (multiculti, offshoring) appear irrational from a realpolitik perspective is that there is no real global competition anymore, all of the people with access to nuclear switches are mind controlled so they can’t use them.

They are working toward one world state but it will take a while

Next phase is a Europe wide refugee deportation movement…they brought the refugees there, made the interracial TV commercials and porn, etc, all with the long term goal of giving the Europeans a common goal, to make the EU stronger.

EU unification will provide the blueprint for unifications in South America, Arabia, and Africa.

>>24093018
Next phase is a war with Russia with a predetermined outcome, NATO victory. Putin works for CIA, hence his retarded Ukraine debacle

They want to unify EU before Russia war

There will be no nukes used

Iran war will happen around the same time

>>24093018
>>Next phase is a Europe wide refugee deportation movement
lol

>the CIA is all powerful and controls the movement of the planets all the way down to the movement of the president's ass hairs
>but also they're so dumb random people on 4chinz know their deepest secrets
I fucking love schizos.

>>24093138
Why do you think this is in any way mutually exclusive?

>>24093138
They don’t care if randos guess what’s going on, no one can stop them

>>24093138
Secrets get out, but it doesn't matter as long as the population at large is not effected and just sees them as "schizo shit" not worth considering. I didn't read the other anon's posts and it probably is schizo shit, but I disagree with what you're saying here too.

>>24076515
Lewis was delusional. He is quintessential Christian apologist cope.

>>24093185
(YOU) are delusional

>>24088479
Kino…

>>24089883
>I like to imagine Tolkien telling Lewis in the pub how close he is to Catholicism, as for Catholics, Mary is like this mythical mother to whom we have recourse
I love the allusion to Mary in The Great Divorce... whom he does not name, but in one scene every indication seems to point to her imminent arrival, with the actual arrival being a quite unexpected and lovely surprise -- accompanied by a sly and rather charming a fortiori implication that suggests Lewis had a very lively sense indeed of the unparalleled honors bestowed on Mary in heaven.

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>>24092823
I own that version and the margins are too small.

>>24094669
there's also a lot of typos in mine too

>>24089883
Here's the thing dude. When someone bullshits me about Christianity and Heaven and whatever the fuck, I just ask him for money. You know what he does? He doesn't give me shit, despite having 100 or 10000 times more than me. Fuck "Christians" and fuck "Heaven" when you can't even be a decent person in this world.

>>24088452
There's only so much that can be said on 4chan post though. there is no substitute for reading the damn book unfortunately which I suspect the "single sentence" anon won't do
>>24094848
A worm in an apple is incidental to it, not essential to it. I'm sure you already understand this considering you put "christians" between quotation marks. most so called christians don't give a fuck about christianity but you'll be delighted to hear that most people don't give a fuck about their ideals period

>>24095546
I just need one to save my life with money, but there's exactly zero of them so..

>>24094848
>>24095546
You can't just go up to people and demand free money, then act like they're bad people when they don't give it to you lmao. That makes you sound like an abrasive bum, people are going to be repelled by that and the fact you think you can do that with people makes me think you're a piece of shit who'd probably just piss away the money anyways. It doesn't matter if you go up to Christians or anybody else they're going to be rightfully repelled by that attitude.

What do you need the money for anyways?

>>24095712
>makes me think you're a piece of shit who'd probably just piss away the money anyways.
Don't judge lest ye be judged?

>>24095926
>Don't judge lest ye be judged?
>Fuck "Christians" and fuck "Heaven" when you can't even be a decent person in this world.
Why (mis)quote scripture that means nothing to you? People who attempt to abuse the charity of others are repulsive to most, and others are right to avoid being taken advantage of by bums like you lmao.

>>24095972
Because I'm specifically talking about Christians? Follow the conversation dude. And read the Bible.

>>24095994
I'm following just fine. You're an entitled pos who tries to take advantage of people's charity and then you lash out at them when they don't give you free shit that you'd likely just squander anyways. Nevertheless, you still judge them with their own morality even though it's something you trash, as if you have any right to do that. People are allowed to judge others intentions so that they can avoid being taken advantage of by people like you. That's as much time as I'll waste on you.

>>24076515
Are there any other books like The Space Trilogy out there with the same / a similar cosmology?

>>24096032
>Nevertheless, you still judge them with their own morality
Well someone obviously has to since they don't do it themselves?

>>24096352
They already have a God who will judge them, but what do you have to gain by pointing out their hypocrisy? It's not like it makes you any better than them.

>>24096731
So everyone should just be selfish Jew scum like you?

>>24076515
>Space Trilogy thread
A welcome suprise.
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>>24079275
I loved the part when Ransom starts to realize what he is supposed to do about the un-man.
>>24084636
Take this shitpost.
>it took Ransom almost an hour to kill the poor frog
>what he saw just after

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>>24096889
*forgot pic

>>24096738
>waaah give me free money

>>24096889
thanks anon, this is fitting

>>24096893
This is the best picture of Wesley I have ever seen in my life

>>24096058
I think Lewis wrote a book called The Discarded Image that is specifically about the cosmology.

I also love the bit in THS when he's talking about the 8 genders - each planet representing a gender, not just Mars and Venus (Jupiter being royalty, Saturn being age, for instance)