how do you guys actually remember what you read? I've seen some Andrew Huberman videos on it, and it all seems to have to do with a lack of attention span, forcing yourself to pay attention, taking notes etc but what are you guy's methods? Like say for example, if you were to read a philosophy book, or 12 Rules for Life by Jordan Peterson, how do you remember what you read, and how do you apply it to your life effectively?
by being interested in what you are reading, which forces you to repeat, how many times are you retard zoomers going to ask this, you know the answer but are too lazy to follow through, if you have adhd go see a therapist, 4chan will not help you
>>24083998Here's a technique I find helping. Whatever you read, try to implement those in your life. I mean literally. If you are reading Philosophy. Try to contemplate those with current affairs. If you are reading self help books. Try implement those in your daily life.
>>24084039What's your reason for saying people shouldn't read self help?>>24084028but I do care>>24084037good idea.I've always had this idea about reading that I need to be able to read a whole book in like a day or a few days but I've never been able to do that and so if I couldn't do that, then I figured books were just not for me even though I had an interest in them. What's you guy's normal reading timeline? Say if you read gonna read a book like Contact, whichi is like 400 or so pages, how long would it take you and how much of it would you remember?I read that book twice when I was in my early teens and liked it a lot, but each time I think it took about 2 weeks.
>>24084055The reason why nobody should read self help should be obvious. I genuinely can't fathom living in a reality where someone entertains it. I don't understand how you can think that's a good idea. I think you've been seriously misguided if you're trying to read that
>>24084059I look at it like getting advice from a friend or something. I don't need to take everything in a self-help book seriously but there's likely to be tidbits here and there that can be revolutionary for someone's way of thinking.
>>24083998i have struggled with this, and here's what ive learned so far:It's impossible to remember *everything* from a book. There is usually a point, at any given page, which the author is trying to prove. He might be giving examples, or giving lengthy explanations. All you should care about is learning the distilled, one sentence version of his argument or proposition/conclusion. You can skim the filler elements like examples or ramblings, unless you don't get the argument the author is making.Usually arguments and facts will pile up and follow a thread through the chapter. Its important to distill the writings and find that thread, then remember it without the filler. Doing this chapter by chapter, you need to establish a "skeleton" of facts and categories from the book. There might just be one conclusion, with the rest being argumentation which you've accepted.This applies to philosophy, history, science and practical works. But you won't remember everything, nobody does. Even if you can't recall the facts, the act of reading them creates a sort of "mould" in your mind for them (that is, if you have understood them). Even if you don't do any of the shit i mentioned, you're still absorbing information or creating space for that information to be reinforced later. Finally, there is the variable of how much interest you have, which will boost your performance in all of the above. You may want to mediate interest and effort. If a book is very boring, but you still want to gain knowledge and understanding from it, you could try doing the autistic categorizing trick i mentioned above rigorously.
>Andrew Huberman>Jordan Petersongood godGet your phone out of the room when reading. Reread the last couple paragraphs if you catch yourself drifting. I don't take detailed notes, highlight, or underline anything while reading. I keep a small notebook to write down words I don't know or things I come across that I want to look up later. If I start looking up stuff while I read I usually get too distracted.
>>24084105>It's impossible to remember *everything* from a book.this is pretty good advice
>>24084055Self-help books are a way to get trapped by the chains of methodical, repetitive, and passive manipulation - a persuasion of your own free will. They offer a delusion of hope with a pinch of reality. It's like asking someone else to have a better perspective on your own existence than you do yourself."
Maybe you take time to write down a memorable quote or passage, but generally speaking, persuadable people allow the literature to change their thoughts and lives in subtle unintentional ways. The people who really remember shit are the critics... they get a nice dopamine hit of superiority from ripping a book or author to shreds, so engaging with the words on the page has real meaning to them.
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>>24083998Just read at a pace where you can understand as best as you can. For me that involves reading at retard speeds, re-reading lines, paragraphs and even pages. That's how I tend to pick up and remember small details in otherwise large books. If you want to do this for some practical purpose, then I'd reccomend taking notes. Since that's not a major goal of mine, I mostly stick to tabbing pages with the end goal being giving me a general snapshot of my understanding of the book. If I'm not in the mood for any of that, I can get by reading at a good pace and generally remembering the gist of what I've read.
>>24083998stop reading self-help, it just doesn't stickread fiction
>>24083998Jordan Peterson intentionally writes obtusely so of course you're going to have a hard time understanding and remembering his books.
>>24083998>how do you guys actually remember what you read?Here, check pic. First post is one I sent to /lit/, second is one I sent to /sci/ years ago.>were to read a philosophy book, or 12 Rules for Life by Jordan PetersonHonestly, I usually read pop books like that cover to cover without really caring about remembering fine details
>>24088723Btw, what I mean by a very basic character mind map is that it uses only lines, circles, and words. Don't waste your time doing one of those elaborate mind maps with pretty pictures and shit, and obviously if you're not reading a Tolstoy book with around 600 characters, you may not need the mind map at all.
>>24083998Write stuff down as you read itPause and think whenever you want Chew on it The most-dakka option is to treat it like a textbook, with all the note taking and Anki decks that implies
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>>24083998Make a 4chan thread or post about it. Just writing out what you're thinking helps a lot.
I write down what I learn or just talk to people or make up an imaginary conversation were I explain what I learned to two people (a brainlet and a big brain).
>>24083998Unironically have chatGPT generate questions about the text you’re interested in and read like you have to do homework. By the 2nd or 3rd book you’ll get the hang of active reading, and naturally start to actually thjnk while u read
>>24083998remember everything you did in school? the things that seemed pointless or a waste of time, like writing things down, thinking about ideas and presenting them in your own words, forming groups with other people and discussing the things you're learning, applying things in books to your own life, no matter how triteall that shit actually works
